Let Me Introduce You To The REAL Gilbert Arenas | Richard Jefferson Talks Knowing Gil For 20+ Years

so to pass lebron james in all-time playoff scoring records somebody is going to have to do what average 30 points a game and go to like 13 nba finals that shit's not gonna be broken [Music] welcome to no chill with gilbert arenas i'm mike botticello he's gilbert arenas and i think guys we have to touch gloves before we get started ah this one this is my guy you're a guy but you know this is richard jefferson right here arizona alum and you know there's this is a friendly rivalry that's been going on for 20 years no no no this is not a rivalry like people are just now getting an inner look because like we're on social media and we're both retired but our relationship that people are just now seeing has been going on since i was 17 and he was 15. like just at basketball the pump camps first time i met his dumbass yeah well so no chill flashback this was early maybe episode one or two we told the story of his recruitment visit a young kid from the valley didn't really get out in the world too much and he shows up at arizona and you and luke yeah yeah for his wherewithal so this was the funny thing about gilbert is that like he's always been special ever since we were kids and so i saw gilbert at this basketball camp and he was really really good super young but just like bawling at this camp skinny little but quick all this stuff so fast forward two years i'm a freshman in arizona and i didn't see him i don't think the following summer so i'm in college and it was after my freshman year and so sophomore year was i don't know it was no it was my freshman year it was my freshman year at school because you came yeah my freshman year so freshman year they're like oh we got this guy coming in now reuben douglas was a part of our freshman class arizona had one of the top freshman classes and they were like yo this kid coming in and ruben was really good reuben ended up leading the country and scoring he transferred to new mexico mainly because of this guy but he ended up leading the country and scoring so the duke could play so they all of a sudden go no this kid gilbert's coming in gilbert arenas he's good blah blah and i was like dude we got reuben here at the two guard we got somebody else i think luke wrecker was thinking about transferring and they're like no no he's good baba i was like all right whatever i was like i don't remember that all of a sudden this [ __ ] this goofy face kid walking i was like this is the kid this goofy kid from the pump cap i was like hell no running shoes did he have bracelets yeah brace that time hell no with no wire i don't even know how his braces were working but i was just for looks yeah no why literally this is like no wire just built just the pieces on it i was like wired together because the wires broke and i you know he just never just never had that we just kept them on like this is a kid that's on the college campus with braces on like what kind of [ __ ] is this so that whole recruiting visit all we did was kind of like make fun of him because i knew him but i was like oh what's where else is going he's like uh kansas state and cal state northridge yeah you're a real typical arizona recruit so all we did was blast them and mess with them because like that was his personality and lo and behold that man showed up on campus the next year and caused problems like this dude had those braces on and won the preseason nit mvp at 17. it's like the rest is history but it could have gone way different if that visit you're like oh man i don't really want to go there i'm gonna go i've always been a big fish in a small pond i'm gonna go to kansas state no no no no no no um like you had to look at the talent like my hopes was you know this you have a school with its history of producing pros so when they you know when loud olsen came to my house it was you know we have jason terry who was just number 10 in the draft right we have jason terry he redshirted with four years so he's guaranteeing me a pro shot you know and that's why i chose arizona it was it was again like yeah i was gonna guarantee you're gonna start here thousand minutes as a freshman he guaranteed me a pro like jason like i know who jason terry is i know who mike maybe what you know so i've watched so you're saying i can be a pro well i'm going to take much i'm taking my channel and that's where loud olsen people you know history obviously doesn't remember as well as people that lived it but it was like that's where he was so good at is at the end of four years now gilbert's like rise was accelerated because of his talent but it's like at the end of four years so many guys went on to have long careers that weren't these like create like shawn rooks steve kerr judd bushler tom tolbert like i can go down the list of guys that played in the 80s and 90s that like you could point at and all of a sudden it was just because arizona guys had had a reputation in the league for having high basketball iqs good teammates and good people ultimately the reason why i could [ __ ] with gilbert and people are just now seeing our relationships and our personalities is because in colleges people recruit people so like my my personality recruited his personality so even though it didn't matter what i said to him he just rolled his eyes and it was the same way like mike bibby his personality and like how goofy he was and funny and he was really he's not as much out in the public eye but he's a funny like over the top so like he recruited me miles simon recruited me and so you know and again like luke walton who people don't understand he's a crazy person he's a full-on crazy birthday that's my best friend and he helped recruit gilbert arenas if anybody needs a better look at inside of like who luke walton really is that's not coach walton that's more of an indication of who he is uh by the company he keeps well you were you played with him as a kid you like sleep over their house and stuff right who luke no that was zohn was that zhan that you yeah i played with uh andrew zion and yeah yeah yeah yeah you told me a story that you would sleep at their house oh and it was bad he's a bully gilbert they use a bully giveaway to the point of tears to appoint tears do you ever hear this story oh no no but oh so let me tell you this story now look we all have these aau stories i had one story where i played my first aau tournament and i was never going to go again because i had never played organized basketball i was like 15. i played so bad the kids made fun of me and it was my first time on the arizona stars and so my mom calls or they call my mom and i hear my mom saying hey she's like hey you know you have a you're supposed to go to colorado springs this weekend and i was like tell those people i'm not going last trip was worst trip right she goes back in there and she goes uh-huh okay okay all right she hangs up the phone she comes back in she's like hey they already paid for your ticket and we don't have money to pay him back so you're going after that you don't have to go anymore and i was just like and i just knew i was going gilbert oh so apparently gilbert was on this aau team and this kid andrews on was like as a sophomore or freshman he was like the number one freshman in the country or the number five sophomore like big big deal right so apparently he was on the same aau team as gilbert and he would just shoot the ball every time but he was so mean to gilbert so mean i did not know this but fast forward gilbert is now were you freshman with him no it was our sophomore year sophomore year this kid gilbert now was after being all freshmen all everything whatever sophomore year gilbert's a sophomore this kid shows up and this guy just like gilbert just we talked about it like just eviscerating somebody gilbert took every piece of his like confidence and andrew's on if you see this like that was that's not cool what he did but andrew did say it's like shut up gilbert you're just mad because i made you cry when you weren't playing and to tell me and luke and lauren woods and all of us that oh we just we cried laughing so they just had this big battle of like like who was going to be more disrespectful to each other the entire season oh did he tell you about when we were in the international and uh have you told that story before oh now is the time this is bad this is up i'm trying to think of what it is about his personality that caused people to poke him like that no well no because too nice no no then i was i was quiet yeah you know that was like my first experience so i didn't know what to expect so you know you're sitting there watching you come in you try to play your game but you know you got to think about a team that's built around this one player you know what i mean you know so if he's expected to get the ball 20 30 times that that's what we had to do i didn't know that i've never practiced with these guys like that i'm just going in but gilbert's my game but gilbert isn't a habitual line stepper he's like a character assessment line stepper right like and that's not even like and i don't think and this is the thing because i know him and like i've always looked out for gilbert even though we don't talk we don't ever talk i don't i don't know how that's possible for instance right we're like can we talk about like in washington when i told you like to chill out well which one what let me tell the story if we need to so the answer is yes so so let me i'll tell the story and then we'll edit it if we if we can't let's see it which one so so gilbert is being himself he had an incident happen that is famously talked about and he was you know goofing off a little bit and kind of joking around and me and gilbert don't talk but i went into the locker room literally left my locker room pregame went into his locker room specifically to talk to him and like gail you gotta chill out he's like but dude like that's what i do i joke everybody but gill this is not like please gilbert i'm just trust me didn't listen and all of a sudden you see these washington wizards intros and all of these things that are like making a mockery then next thing i know our guy had to take a little moment of silence but it was like even in that moment like i've all i've always looked out for gilbert and always tried to have his best interest even when like we don't talk because i know who he is he is an ultra ultra competitor he just wants to play but he's a habitual line stepper all the time with everything sometimes you just got to see how far that line is you just gotta you you just got see richard but you can't keep touching this stove no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no richard runs he'll run full speed and then he has this stopping point yeah me i'm like i beat you but there's only there's only like certain people that can beat me right and i say that knowing that like i'm not all the way up there i i push limits especially like i push limits as much i've gotten a couple of talking tunes for people that i work with like i don't know if that's acceptable but like gilbert's at one point but gilbert is a like i'll tell the story i've never said this before we were in our locker room i don't know what happened right and like we were all like competitive we were all competing but we were like on a very good team so we knew that it wasn't going to be like one person but what we used to do is like if he was playing against like a high level two guard like casey jacobson or if lauren woods at the time was playing against chris mim we would just give the ball to that one person the whole game and then try and shut chris mim down or we would shut in just the right like even we played eddie house eddie house went for 61. played us a week later we gave the ball to gilbert every time and we did like a five on one again against any house but i remember gilbert we were arguing about something and he just he just cuts he's just mean right he's like how the [ __ ] are you even gonna make it to the nba you can't even dribble and then like walked off and i was like who said anything about the nba why are we talking about that gill wait where'd that come from it's just mean i'm like i'm like i'm 19. i want to make it in the neighborhood of you it was mean but what people we're all nba players five of us you don't think we've talked about the nba we're all nba players on this team right here no so that was like our that was already trying to crush dreams yeah right and i couldn't dribble i'd like like my three-point line in game is great but like full court or three-point line to three-point line not so much three-point line and my handle is perfect that's all i need it was just but i'm thinking like psychiatrist chair here was it because you saw what he could do and you were jealous of that he was our leading scorer doesn't matter he wants what he couldn't have no that was just how we that's how we cut like come on you gotta appreciate what he could do like you gotta did you hear the recruiting visit i think that's what it was dynamic of our relationship pushing lines you gotta remember that so the only way to stop you got to like really get in there and then get out there because he's gonna okay i got him and we all and we all had that like there was a guy ricky anderson that was on our team i think what you guys figured out though that not every program could probably pull this off like let's say duke for example right that you need to have fun and be your personality and be who you are otherwise we're never going to go anywhere yeah but that's how you bring what we have here that's how you recruit those guys that's why like when they talk about the family tree it's because it really is when you look at universities right especially ones that have one head coach for 10 15 20 years you all know how to recruit the same type of personalities because when you go on the visit if you have fun with these groups of guys it's because you guys all get along like you all like the same things and then it just that can continue and with arizona it started in 83 and went what six to seven when lewd olson's retired that's a long family tree of guys and we all get along whether it's steve kerr that that'll be in tex chains or damon stodomier guys that like we never were probably we're probably one of the only we have to say we're the only group that has their own text chain of ex-players well maybe from like three different generations yeah yeah i would say that there's probably a bunch of we have guys that played in 85 up until 2000. what did they say about your group because you kind of we brag the most until like damon comes out and us with the hit us with the stomp again it's like we were so fortunate man like especially even watching the last dance having like judd butchler um steve kerr those guys that were such big parts of like what we were growing up like wow to have two arizona guys be huge parts of like the jordan dynasty so it was like you know steve kerr talked at my basketball camp like i lived in san diego me and luke did a basketball camp in san diego all of a sudden steve kerr comes in now looking back think about these kids that were at my basketball camp 10 years ago 15 years ago the head coach of the warriors used to come and talk and you know and he was now you see him on the last dance so the arizona you know tree if you will man is fun because like it goes back in history you still see it you know prevalent today uh that's why that that coaching higher this year was such a big deal because it's like there's a lot involved in that yeah what doesn't make sense is the majority of the planet goes on a job interview gilbert was on a job interview and he did not take the job interview as well as he should have so instead of being on the board and being a lottery pick he ended up working in the mail room to work his way up but the problem with gilbert in in hindsight is that they didn't know that his shooting capability was going to go where it was so at that point in time he was a combo hybrid guy and they didn't have that did today like lou will like you see like i know like a steph curry and that's not like i'm not saying he's like that but the guys that are just like scoring guards like they didn't have that nearly as much as they did back in the day it was the you know that was still the era of john stockton yeah there was like can you play one yeah you didn't play one and you run the team can you run the court not manager yeah that's that's what it was and so they like he's he is short yeah you're short but short for a shooting guard so that's what that's what i learned quick so i mean after i got drafted i'm i'm you know crying you know another cry moment um hot you know carmen call ronnie attention can i come back to college no well you were mad that you were in the second round yeah i didn't i didn't know we didn't know that you went in the second round no i didn't know i was going like why am i in the second round oh i could have told you that yes i mean we had that what's so funny is we we had that conversation like yeah i don't think you're gonna like it i don't think you're gonna go where you think you're gonna go wait wait what what what you know something i don't know well gilbert gilbert didn't fully uh maybe still doesn't understand that per that that behavior can affect like uh elevation of the way you formulate yourself yeah and there was a couple of moments that he had in the pre-draft that if they did any sort of background check on them they were like uh and then all of a sudden like they see them in the pre-draft and they're like uh when it came to shoot we draft him in this in the first round they were like uh boston no i mean look at listen come on come on gail i came from arizona bro yeah we're in shape like crazy like we we take our [ __ ] serious you're putting me on this treadmill bro to see my fitness today and the season doesn't start into yeah but it was kill okay so this is the that was the dumbest thing i've ever you know the story but for people that might not gilbert goes to the pre-draft camp which is all every kid that you're getting a draft to go some kids have to play to go up and down in the draft to see how they handle it some guys like i don't think you didn't have to play did you have to play uh i got stephen hunter number 15. oh yeah this is one baby i didn't have to play if you were if you were projected anywhere near the lottery you didn't have to play but guys could guys could go up and play and push themselves high and play really well it happens all the time so gilbert like they have all these tests gilbert is doing these tests in chuck taylor's and doing them more half-assed than you can ever imagine we are on the precipice of our dreams of the things that like point zero one percent of people get to experience and gilbert is like i'm not doing this treadmill chest y'all gonna mess up my chuck taylors and you're sitting here like like people are looking at me like i'm supposed to say something to them like yo get your boy and i'm like oh y'all are just meeting gil no that's that's that's him gonna be him forever but it's one of those things i forgot i was king [ __ ] then then then no no no i remember yeah did you tell you about did he tell dog did he tell you about when we were in the international and uh have you told that story before oh now is the time this is bad this is oh oh yeah so again i know so this dude we're sitting in there and there's a bunch of arizona guards but just like all the guys that we the whole like drafting and so they're talking it's like pre-draft telling stories and they're like you know what do you want to get out of this league and i think they like interviewed like jason collins first so then gilbert starts laughing you know once jason starts talking just because he's because we hate stanford and so like anytime we can make fun of stanford we can't like duke stanford all the prestigious schools you know we're like they're the private schools in the area we're the hood school so we made fun of them and the whole room keeps laughing right just because he's because it's him so then they go what do you want to get out of this league what do you want to say what do you sir what do you want to get out of this league gilbert goes thinking he's being funny gilbert even knows he has a feel for the moment he goes i want to be a pimp and you're just like oh girl what are you doing and then the game just goes quiet well the room kind of gives it giggles and the guy doubled down the guy doubles down on gilbert not knowing gilbert you because guy goes excuse me what did you say and i was just like no gail don't do it don't say it don't say it don't say it gail don't say it gil goes i want to be an international pamphlet and i was like oh he said it i said so we're not 19 there's hundreds of people in this room right and this guy just goes off on gilbert he goes if that's what you think this league is about and what he's like if you're talking about objectifying women and blah blah blah this isn't the place and you could just leave and gilbert was like i'll stop i'm like oh wait right there there's a line that you got to no he got into that line he went a little over i went over the only reason i went over is because i was playing and i thought he was just going to move on but then he took it serious and i guess i could say i got a double down truth but as if you if you're there with him how do you just not say like hey hey man right here especially same thing with the chucks how much did chucks cost you 40 40 bucks hey wait wait wait i'm sorry i'm sorry really quickly can you can you introduce yourself to this man like this is gilbert arena it's nice nice what are you talking about your arm around him listen i know listen this i know you've done all this stuff in the past but just for right come on there's just certain people right now like there's certain people you don't call on in the classroom and everyone you know they're not gonna take it seriously we we if ever if you would ask every player not to pick on one person it would have been me yeah so what are you because i wasn't gonna take anything i'm just i'm the joke guy i'm the guy that's trying to make everyone have a reverse psychology don't say anything i'm confused with your line of questions like i'm really confused like you're asking if like i could have said something about 18 gilbert to stop being gilbert like but there's there's if there's one way to get through to him say it's about the money right so those forty dollar jobs if you didn't run on the channel okay no no no no it's okay the chuck story is different it's different because of this i have on chuck's right trying to represent ellen mindy they told us that we're running shoes we went yeah when he shows up in the chucks everyone does yeah everyone has i've trained my ass off now you're telling me to run on this for what 18 minutes for what do we need to check your conditioning for what what is the conditioning in july august had to do with my conditioning you're not in december november they're just october it didn't make sense okay then it didn't make sense like if i'm out of shape right now i'm going to be in shape by time that sees what doesn't make sense is the majority of the planet goes on a job interview gilbert was on a job interview and he did not take the job interview as well as he should have so instead of being on the board and being a lottery pick he ended up working in the mail room happy to work his way up the secret to my success you knew that you know michael you did that he laid the groundwork for you basically because i took a whole koi fish out the pond and put it in front of one of our teammates doors see i push limits with a line but my but i i actively am trying to push limits just because i get bored if i don't he pushes limits with no lines like his goal is to extend the lines think about the way you came to believe that it was like just the wild west and golden state where you had pros you had jay kidd running the show you went right to the finals you know like you had to catch up to that yeah yeah so it was you know it was just a lot i actually was mad that we did that and you know bran armstrong's my boy don't take this wrong way but i was mad i was like dude he's not better than gilbert i was so confused um joseph forte there was a bunch of guys that went over him and i was really really confused and um i was like just thinking to myself like that and that's him like could you imagine if we would have had gilbert if gilbert would have been that like now we we might have beat the spurs we wouldn't have beat the lakers but we if gilbert was our backup two guard at that time it had been him and carrie kittles yeah we probably would have beat the spurs but you know we were just fine i would you know what my life would have been miserable had him been there i don't know i don't know if i'd have turned out the same player though i i you would have because i would have had early success with golden state the the failure of not playing and but you would have because you would have because you would have been more of a player that was in the limelight so the money is the same if you average 20 points a game for a shitty team or if you average 15 points it's a game for a team going to the finals how about so you gotta remember anger anger sitting on the bench anger of my situation is what oh you were going to sit on the bench of time don't worry but it set me but that's what set me in the gym all day that's fair you know that's and that's what i looked at like if i would have went in even if i came in three four five minutes that's still three or four five minutes more than i played here i was i was benched and i'm binge for a group of knuckleheads so like so so the anger that's built that that's that was building is what but i mean that's in but to your point where you're like where are when we're i'm watching you guys and i'm sitting here like salty yeah i'm not no no no i wasn't salty because i wasn't ready like it wasn't you gotta remember like i'm i'm jason richardson i'm i'm killing him in practice in a game that's a different jason richardson like he's dunking on people he said like if you running up and down catching lives and i'm like i can't do none of that i could and the game was different the game wasn't scoring guard dominant yeah like it it wasn't it like look you had the ais you had the steve francis's you had those guys that were just so over the top but gilbert was one of those guys that worked his way into that very very quickly where it's like you don't see that like a second round pick working his way into you know being an all-nba player like that just it happens very very rarely some of it is scouts messing up two of it is like how hard someone works their natural ability so yeah it was a different game man and like today's game [ __ ] my numbers wouldn't have changed in today's game his numbers would have changed in today's game his numbers would have changed now because like i would have shot more threes but i was always it's always dunks and light like that's always like now you're done there's no big big guy back there trying to block yeah but verticality remember back in the day they used to have to go for blocks now those bigs just stand up there and be big and use hard to go through them that verticality stuff sucks back in the day everybody used to have to try and block a shot so like you would shoot more threes you would do that so yeah but even then like the shooting of threes like dude my eyes were at that rim i wanted to get to that rim and catch body so if i had a three point i had a wide open three-point shot i would pump fake still drive it at people so you were right there though when that changed and i'm thinking of golden state you know being cleveland that's so but at what point did that change to where the early 2000s nba which much more up and down transitional big big driven and now it's stretched out well i think i in my opinion it started it started with the phoenix suns in my opinion with steve nash and that crew and how he just handled the ball and had all of the shooters around him they also had amari stoddameyer who was absurd amari syamir he is the reason why the sun's had that success it was steve nash creating for them but that space that he was taking up rolling to the rim that's what got all those three-point triggers open and they shot a lot of them and so i think it started with them and then i think you fast forward it it started to grow grow grow then when staff and clay and those guys all got on the same team it became such a weapon now of like not only are we gonna shoot more threes but you're gonna have the greatest shooters in the world shooting 10 12 15 17 threes a night and they couldn't say no to that with steph and clay together you can't say no to when it was successful right but you were sort of you were sort of doing that yourself i would say that yeah yeah but it was you gotta remember still the east was you know the east is more rugged so you're still like we had i had more fun playing in the west because the west was sitting here like this like the only time that we went up and down was against them but other than that it was grinded playing pistons they want to score but the team they want to score 82 points like they ain't got contracts to go after but the team that you tried to put together at that time and you think of dc mid uh early 2000's it was uh point guard like you wing player quran what was it we're just going to save all time so we was in the same offense so it was more of a princeton two guards two forwards in the center christian offense man i know people hate on it it was underrated yeah this office was fun because you got easy buckets without people having to work and it made it better for guys like gilbert because he didn't have to create for players the offense would co-create for them so he could go do what he want he could go score and then all of a sudden it was like all right we're gonna run this play so everyone touches it everyone if you score you score cool this is basically your chance to go and then in transition stuff is for me but no i think the game is changing the right way i think it's scary to me that like kids are going to see staff and clay and the and dame and brian these guys shooting in half court because it's coming like that it's just it the the the growth is coming that's that's one thing the one thing that's constant is change and so there's going to be kids that see it and so there's going to be a ton of people not that can shoot like steph and clay but maybe that guys that are like quality shooters that now are shooting from so deep so then the game just opens up the space it's gonna be a problem there's gonna be there's gonna be so many three shot in the next like 10 years yeah and that's the funny thing is that steph's records is gonna be broken at some point remember steph's records is five years old no no not even five years old the first five years of steph's career was kind of shaky because of his ankle so someone coming in has this five-year advantage of you know so his records could be broke yeah and again but do you like his records like even like he just broke uh james harden's three-point record think about that he didn't own the three-point record james harden did for like a month for like a single month he had like like and steph was on a crazy tear and he just broke the record and you're sitting here like to think that steph didn't own that record that was that was james harden right like james harden the stuff that he's doing too so like these there's gonna be guys that come in and again it could be you have to the difference between steph and why i think his records will be hard is because that's his weapon that's his weapon right like breaking like shaq's dunk record is impressive because that was his weapon who's the greatest scorer of this era is it james td i hear exactly what you're saying i hear exactly what you're saying and and people might disagree with me and that's why i think you look back at this era you're gonna say there was a greatness era a greatness in scoring in this era who's the greatest scorer of this era is it steph is it james kd lebron james scorer lebron james it was about the favorite squad what's up i hear exactly what you're saying i hear exactly what you're saying and and people might disagree with me but understand this the greatest score is not only its consistency its longevity and its amount now it might not be these crazy bursts like for me i was never like a 40 point a game i was like every night you were gonna get between between on my best you were gonna get between like 17 and 30. every single night i was not a nine points 51 22 no i was just very consistent lebron james playoff scoring right playoff scoring he passed michael jordan three seasons ago and he's going to add to that right or before his career ends so to pass lebron james in all-time playoff scoring records somebody is going to have to do what average 30 points a game and go to like 13 nba finals that shit's not going to be broken the playoff one's not and then he's going to pass kareem so as much as we don't view him as a scorer right like steph's greatest shooter kevin durant's greatest like weapon as a scorer because he's so big but like who's the greatest scorer he's number four all the time right now you know so funny i had an argument with someone about that and it was like uh it was like uh he's not even a a natural scorer and i say and that should be funny because the guy who's a fast per a fast uh pass first thinker has beaten out two dominant scorers guys that just scored they just scored first and and that's not a difference so how do you first like i said how do you say he's not 25 points a game for 15 straight years like well i know and it's weird i know because it's weird when used to when you you don't think of him as that he doesn't approach the game as that but when you look at the records they are that so yeah and that's the and that's the that's so like if someone says who is the best natural scorer in the game today everyone's going to say you know kd i would yeah but who's the best scorer of all time it would be lebron because that's longevity and he could do anything he wants in the court no but as long as you say longevity like how did kareem and michael jordan and kobe bryant and carl malone get to that level dream longevity yeah that's what i'm saying was all longevity so it's like when you're talking about the greatest scorers of all time would you put michael jordan and kobe and kareem and carl malone up there but you don't consider braun even though he's about to pass all of those but that's well would you say kareem is he the greatest scorer if he's at the top of the green is the greatest basket i've never shot it he's the great greatest basketball player that ever played if you look at like his dominating college his like career in the nba lebron james is probably the greatest basketball player ever built like built as far as like can do all of said things i think kevin durant is probably the greatest offensive weapon we've seen like if you're just going specific skills steph curry is the greatest shooter specific that we've ever seen i think michael jordan is the the greatest combination of like like like focus and determination and like clutch because when he got a hold of the throne he'd never let it go and i think kobe bryant is like that guy that just like he saw he saw mj as perfection and worked in 20 hours a day to achieve that perfection so i think when you're talking about goats there are legitimate categories that you can place all of these guys in and that's the way to have the conversation it's not just one guy and it's a broad brush yeah because you know when you said in football terms it's hard to say who's the best football player or the best who's the goat because you you have so many different positions in the nba it's the same thing too and there's no disrespect to tom brady i love tom brady like tom brady like what what's not to like about the dude but when people talk about like who's the greatest athlete right like america especially because you know he's got that ring it's like how many people are playing football in other countries right in the united states yes tom brady is that dude but ultimately like lebron james or michael jordan are having to play against players from all around the world that are playing said game so like the talent pool in that game is exponentially higher than the talent pool in football so like yes your dominance in football is outstanding this is not a critique of you but if you're talking to me if you're talking about the greatest of all time it has to be things like boxing tennis um i would say basketball soccer right if your sport does not include the entire world it's hard for me to call you a goat from outside of your sport right like yeah you're the goat of this or you're gonna go to that but like tennis or golf like that means you're dominating the whole world when tiger woods was dominating anybody in the world that can pick up a golf club go see that man and in football and and even in baseball there you know there's south americans there's but and you know it's in asia it's growing but i don't think it's as it's not as worldwide but it is worldwide you know i would rank football probably of the three major sports is probably the least international uh even if you're including hockey one thing you are allowed one thing one moment to do one thing i know there's multiple but just one all right let's do this so we do this segment ask agent zero okay and this could be anything so obviously be careful here but anything that comes to mind that you've always wanted to know about gil or pick his brain about even all right one thing you are allowed one thing one moment to do over what would it be one thing i know there's multiple but just one there's probably on the basketball court no no no i'm tumbling like it could be it could be how you handled an injury it could be how you handled a situation it could be how you handled a relationship it could be how you handled anything you're allowed god is looking at you and saying listen i know you've done nothing to deserve this but you're allowed one thing that i'll allow you to go redo or change the way you approach it um charlotte okay april third okay in charlotte after the game what did you do i uh i questioned eddie's decision on not starting brendan and because we end up looting we end up losing and i was like shouldn't we be getting ready for the playoffs we should be getting ready for playoffs and we over here around with the lineup and then he was like let me do my job like i let you do your job next day i was benched i got my i was uh i got my starting spot taken away from me i went into the starting spot taken away because they thought i was going to be late which i wasn't late but it was because of the argument the night before so so it was on the back to back so we was shocked so we was on charlotte okay okay so charlotte in charlotte and then home versus charlotte so i challenged him in charlotte which i never you know never done before yeah um but i was just a man but it was just yeah never we never had any problems it was just i was frustrated that we were losing when we should be trying to get ready for the playoffs because now our whole team just got back yeah so the next game uh benched come into the game and then that's where jared wallace april 30th april april 3rd april 3rd like i said it was so it was one of those like one thing led to karma and that lesson let's see and i wouldn't even call that the karma i understand what you're saying because like ultimately those things are a lot more commonplace but it was it was karma because he was right like i let you do your job so the fact that he's never he never questioned on how i play the game he just let me play the game i shouldn't have questioned how he was coaching but that's but those are conversations that lead to growth right like you recognize that he was right maybe now i don't know how long it took you to realize he was right in that moment now he's had to be asked the question you just asked the right question now there you have it hey it takes time for me to realize some [ __ ] when i don't want to realize i mean he eventually learns right does not when you need him we're me and gilbert are more similar stubborn very stubborn very we will do the opposite just because you're telling us not to do it uh he has another layer that i don't but i relate to him so so much but yeah no i i if i had to look back there were a couple of things very similar to that that i would do over i think that's the coolest thing about the two of you and your friendship is that you are someone that way you said you're more introverted you're introverted too in a lot of ways you kind of like to be left alone so you know if i do this this is what i have to do so people will be you know set and they're they'll be able to leave me alone your thing is don't put me in the box yeah i'm going to climb out of there yeah i just cut a hole in it yeah hey i'm still doing like if you get messed with and you do this too you clap back at people whereas you would think the introvert wouldn't want you would just let it let it go by i pick and choose because obviously social media had given my job but a lot of times i'll use it as an opportunity to just express sarcasm because that makes me feel better yeah right when i just have to deal with insanely stupid people feel better feel better about yourself because not about myself it just it helps me tolerate the world that we live in it might look rough to people on the outside but if you're in the circle we don't care we don't care and look at the airplane look the best thing i ever heard and it's true if i ever say something that is offensive or that you're upset about just text me just text me and if you don't have my number i probably don't care about your feelings his trolling is a little bit different i just i just do the opposite i see everybody's cheering for this person i'm gonna go in this person's side and oh yeah oh when you get when people are like god jefferson's always on social media and i'm like how do you know yeah unless you're always on social media also i get paid to comment under espn sportscenter what are you doing while watching it what are you doing don't tell me that i'm always on social media if you always see me because you know what that means you're always on social media see these are the [ __ ] stupid people that you have to like work with oh i know and i think we struck a nerve here but the point is you don't always have to respond that's not true it's fun as long as you respond it's fun it's fun it's fine tell me how to have fun yeah yeah don't judge me in my phone i mean you do what you're [ __ ] yeah i don't i don't judge you when you dress up the way you do through a grown man's jersey all the time like you're probably watching everybody don't say anything bad about griffy guess what after this and that was nice i'm gonna i'm gonna break up now i guarantee you next episode you're gonna wear a baseball jersey i guarantee you i have a real one see just to prove he hasn't really have a real one signed yeah cool i knew it by the guy whatever yeah see you next time next episode well on that note that's we have something to look forward to yeah can't wait um this was great always a pleasure man i appreciate you guys way overdue this wasn't personal that we didn't have you in sooner um just i didn't care i'm never gonna ask what's he saying once he asked the record once he asked me once he asked me once he asked me i go as long as he'll come back on road tripping me and channing no that's publicly no that's public no it's public he already said he was going to come back on who i'll tell you what you tell well you can come on but who should we pair you with should we pair you with quran do you would you want to tell some stories about karan about the old washington you know quran seriously right i know but that's what's next because you get the book i get the vote i like to poke people wait why do you want to be paired with anybody no because like it's fun the conversation like we've all told so many stories and we have so many but when like like just adding channing to like our already and then adding nick it just makes the stories that much more like like different because you get you get four different perspectives of the same train wreck right i feel like when you had you and nick together though it turned into an intervention no it definitely definitely was it always is an intervention everyone's always trying to stop him from doing what he's doing but like nick was like the the younger brother on the couch that was like look man you've been hurting me for years i just had help from the old yeah but that's the way but that's the way channing is with me like that's i'm just like i love chang's like my little brother but like the way that like i treated gilbert like but he's a little different there's the same way i treat channing is the same way mike bibby and miles simon treated me like it's just like this this tree down the line of just messing always you always just you always take care of them and you always look out for them but you just give them a tremendous amount of [ __ ] yeah if we don't give you [ __ ] we don't care we don't care that's what it is that's the bond the arizona bond bear it out it might look rough to people on the outside but if you're in the circle we don't care and look at the airplane look the best thing i ever heard and it's true if i ever say something that is offensive or that you're upset about just text me just text me and if you don't have my number i probably don't care about your feelings that's how we're going to cut [Music] foreign

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Length: 47min 10sec (2830 seconds)

Published: Mon May 03 2021