KONY Q&A

[Music] that's just a jump into it how's Connie doing these days it seems likely that if he's not captured in the next few years he'll be dead anyway it was reported a few years ago that he has type 2 diabetes and that's a fairly progressive disease you know it's hard to get dialysis or large stocks of insulin in the jungle but for now he's roaming around in the jungle with about a hundred troops and and hopefully he's dead sooner than later those tattoos were they real as far as I can tell they're all real I only put a few of them in the video that were a couple elders that were a bit more dubious so I left them out for example this one which is like the upside-down triangle which represents the Fourth Estate it was like the next campaign represented equality or something his Connie actually as bad as they say I feel like everything so i paralyzed in the media these days so it's kind of hard to find words that describe quite how evil this guy is but unequivocally yes kills kids mutilate skids amputates their arms and legs kills him for sport kills them to send messages you know it makes them kill one another if I was living there by any means necessary I'd be getting the [ __ ] out why did Jason have the breakdown these things I think are always multi-factor so first is he had an underlying mental illness the second is that he was very rundown so operating on very little sleep very high pressure situations going from in to to interview flying across the country apparently he was also very dehydrated so not taking care of himself simple maintenances the third is that he had a very bright spotlight on him all of a sudden he was the face of the most viral video to date and he was recognized in places he was criticized as well as praised wherever he went and he just wasn't prepared for it the fifth is that I think he felt a very strong responsibility I think he's and see a guy I think it really did want to help people in Africa that's it that that seems as far as I can tell it's that really is his main goal and so I think he felt an enormous pressure when suddenly everyone went oh he's the guy who's gonna fix Africa okay well here's all the resources you need and we're gonna fulfill all the criteria that you've set out you just have to deliver a safe Africa now it's like oh hey man this like you know kids having their pieces of their face cut off and stuffing and he's the one who's gonna have to fix it and like I am I can see I can see how that would be a very heavy weight to have on your shoulders people said that he was on drugs that's not true at least I don't I don't think that's true they'll test you for that sort of stuff when you get checked into a mental hospital isn't interviews dude with Oprah or he says that no drugs were you on drugs at all at the time zero drugs if I saw that video though and it wasn't me I'd like that person absolutely you I mean oh yeah I don't care what they say yeah he tends to be feeling matter-of-fact about these things he also wasn't jacking it I felt like I had to address that in the video you know Casey nice step city was South Park featured it and there's a large part in one of the episodes it seems like thousands and thousands of people were saying that he was jacking it into the streets but there is absolutely no corroboration from it there were no witnesses who said that he was jacking it there were no police who said that he was jacking it the footage doesn't show him jacking it and so it just seems to have been plucked from thin air and it's become part of the story now and it's it's almost impossible to refute it is what it is I read this very long interview I can't remember where it was published and it talks about the scope of the delusions and I cut the spit out for the sake of brevity but he says at one point he called his maid up and he says you got to come to the house and he comes over NACS hey man we have to rearrange all the books on my bookshelf in chronological order so that we can determine what humanity should do next like crazy delusions of grandeur so this is like a full-on mental break and you know he spent a month in a mental hospital and uh I don't know I it seems to me like if you're gonna feel pity for anyone it's someone who has a mental breakdown and spends a month in a mental hospital you know and anyway well the last thing to mention is also over pretty soon after I had made that video Jason Russell actually appeared in an interview with the BBC and he talked about his mental breakdown and it's a really good interview it goes for about 30 minutes I'll provide a link and it basically confirms a lot of things in the video they don't touch on the same exact points but it's a very good synopsis of what happened and Jason you know goes goes through it in his own words and it's worth a listen what the [ __ ] is up with that musical I want to scratch my eyes okay so that music video was part of a campaign called the global night commute this is back in 2006 and the idea of ironmen global night commute is that we're going to sleep out on the streets for a night to understand and have empathy for these kids that are having to do the same in rural Uganda accompanying it was this video why was it like this well I think in 2006 high school music who was popular I think they wanted to put something on their show real I think they enjoyed musicals and they saw this is the best way of relating to the kids so I want to show the thing in full it's on the Creative Commons license so you can do whatever you want with it the footage I showed on the main channel video is about 30 seconds of a seven-minute video so I'll understand if you want to opt out here's a timestamp so you can just skip it if you just cannot take it anymore so the they're pretending like I've just screened a video to a high school audience right move it was really good inside and all but what are we supposed to do about it it's a really good investment on a 29 we're having this thing called a glowing and we're asking you and all you guys to do something maybe to use you're a little down now that seems like a kid you in the decorator no offense but what do you know about it sounds great so that you know the acting is their own sort of devil's advocate crazy we know but and we don't know much anyway this is why I said he's a typical Californian dude because I listen to this guy's accent I know it's a you know but and we don't know much we've never done this before but we know that what America does gets noticed and what the people in America do can't be ignored come on guys get real hundreds before you have tried to end Wars what makes you so different why doesn't he go any government to shoot that just that is a legitimate question if you can hear in the background I hope this is loud enough he goes someone in the background helps we're sleeping out on the streets is it gonna be good puffs there we gotta do something right what can we do to be responded like spectacle something huge big flashy that's what we need to do is bring it okay you know let's give them what they want let's do what we always do do dance yeah so I skipped below this cuz it has a real long buildup [Music] you know is that I feel like they're all skeptical but then by the end he's even got the principal dad's I looked at giant now [Music] [Music] [Music] I've had this song in my head I tried so hard to get this shirt printed in time this video related it's a way to God I talked to like for t-shirt printers but I just I couldn't find anyone who could do like this full pink shirt and tracking down this particular photograph in high-res was really quite difficult and and by the end I just sort of gave up oh I'll see if I can provide like a high quality PNG for you after this and them if you want to go get your own t-shirt made [Music] [Music] so that's the end of x1 [Music] yeah food the 29 of April [Music] [Applause] [Music] to get the sign up online you go admire some of the coordination name [Music] remakes break it down [Music] okay now this is the big day did you brush your teeth yeah I've got no idea of this kitties did you bring your camera yes mom did you eat your broccoli mom I'm trying to end a war let's bets Jason Russell's mom [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] I don't know if you can give us one Spotify it's on a greater public license [Music] this is yeah [Applause] [Music] right now I've found something interesting about this video so you know cringy has this they made it in three weeks which is fairly impressive with all this sort of stuff right but guess who edited and directed it I'm not sure if you've heard a movie called crazy rich Asians before but it's oh it's still in cinemas at the moment there's a guy who directed you know the now you see me movies this ones with the magicians with like Jesse Eisenberg and and all those actors at home hold on yeah yes so this guy Jon M Chu he directed crazy rich Asians now you see me too GI Joe retaliation like a lot of like big moves step up 3d he made this movie it's actually in the description of the video itself Jon M Chu helped direct me that I thought that was funny but there was this weird other thing which I wanted to put in the video and I just couldn't find a place for it so before Jason Russell went and made visible children warts he was friends with Jon M Chu yesterday still is and he and his wife and drawn him true wrote a musical called Moxie and he sold it the rights to it's a Steven Spielberg and nothing ever came of it they never made it into a movie but anyway I just think it's like this weird thing that should be mentioned somewhere so Jason Russell sold the movie script with the help of John iam true to Steven Spielberg at some point talk a bit about that car shooting I wanted to bring this a little bit up because in the video there's a scene where it says the car in front of us was shot by the LRA while driving through a rural village a car was shot in front of us by a rebel army who was led by a guy named Joseph Kony and I think this is an example of Jason stretching the truth a little bit you know where he didn't need to so they're on tour in Uganda they're being driven around by this local woman the local woman pulls over to the side of the road and starts talking to the locals they say you better get out of here because there's just been a car shot up at the side of the road two people were killed in it they quickly floor it and get to the next town which is Gullu and there they speak to some of the Ugandan army thankfully we made it into the city and started asking questions to stay in the town overnight Ugandan army then describes to them what happened and that there was a shooting confirming what the villagers said but the way that Jason tells it and the way that it's written about is as though they were there to witness it but they weren't everything is a secondhand account I thought that was just a sort of unnecessary stretching of the truth you know I I realize that people do this sort of stuff to make a story more sexy but it just didn't need to be how did Invisible Children start when Kony 2012 came out people assumed that this was the charities very first campaign and it wasn't they've been doing these things since 2005 they've actually got a number of very good programs that they continue with - today includes things like setting up schools scholarships even scholarships for some of the taught the child soldiers that have come out of the jungle is trying you know reform them and reintegrate them back into the the cities and villages and their their campaigns that have actually been pretty effective I don't think they got proper credit for a lot of that work a few other things included a series of radio towers an app that supposedly tracked the LRA so but essentially a warning system get the hell out of there they'd be coming your way as well as basic infrastructure kind of stuff what was the Ugandan government's response to the Kony 2012 video the Ugandan Board of tourism was not particularly happy when this video came out they think it actually hurt them for a couple of years afterwards people thought it was a war-torn hellhole and in fact the Prime Minister of Uganda after all these celebrities tweeted out you know hashtag Kony 2012 and jumped on that bandwagon he tweeted and then so at Justin Bieber at at Kim Kardashian yeah hey why not come to Uganda you know it's not as bad as he worth saying yes Oh damage control I think you'd call it what's up with that Moreno Ocampo guy okay I feel like I have to have a disclaimer for this one Moreno Ocampo former chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court if if it comes out in the news that I committed suicide please investigate it as a murder also a historian you can't have any of my stuff I want it all to go to Frederick Knudsen so that he can make an investigative video because this guy seems pretty powerful and he's into all sorts of shady dealings so Moreno Ocampo first of all what was up with that plot well I think he's a bit of a social climber I think he wanted to get close to some celebrities because he has a fascination with celebrity and and he likes to be in the spotlight himself did he really think that that plot was gonna work hmm probably not I think it was sort of let's just see how far down the road we can get with this and see what happens kind of deal but the point was to spend time with Angelina Jolie preferably also with Brad Pitt and to be seen doing it I think that's why he invited her to all sorts of other events as well they've made up before several times I don't think Angelina Jolie and Brad took it too seriously to be honest from what I read of the emails that they're just exerts I wasn't able to get a hold of the whole you know batch of emails that we'll leave but I'm sure they get invitations to things all the time and you know the the polite thing to do is just is all year know we'll we'll chat it over and it sounds like a great opportunity and then let nothing happen is is usually the best course of action so that's what I think they were thinking from their side as I understand it I again I don't have the emails I don't actually know who has the emails anymore I think it was just a small selection that were leaked as part of a blackmailing campaign actually against him to try and hurt his character he said I miss you in an email to Angelina Jolie that was like the last of their correspondence as is my understanding and he got a response from Angelina's personal assistant who said oh she had a different email address now sir maybe it all ended a bit awkwardly I haven't seen them together recently but I think it's worth touching on that this guy is pretty shady I'm sure that little government especially in a corrupt institution like the UN that it's pretty difficult to to not be into some pretty shady things but as soon as he was finished with his tenure which is about eight years I think he went to a business associate of Gaddafi's he was an oil magnate and said to him hey why don't you give me a two million dollar retainer because I know you may be being investigated and I'll do nothing and you can just pay me two million dollars a year the the implication being that he would feed him information through his his network of contacts and then this money was supposed to be routed through a shell company which Moreno owned which sold like luxury briefcases and luggage and there's just all these weird things going on with this guy why didn't they ever just bomb the [ __ ] out of the LRA okay well there are five main reasons that I see so first of all is it's the wrong jurisdiction so of the Ugandan air force were to bomb Kony well they're gonna have a hard time if he's in the Central African Republic or in Sudan right the second is tied to that they don't know where he is so they're an opportunistic group they roam around they stay in the places of least resistance and they're also in the jungle so it's pretty hard to pin them down the bottom three this spread out so you're gonna have to flatten huge swaths of the forest in order to get a few guys fourth is that they're a diminishing threat you know whereas the LRA at its peak had over 10,000 troops they now have between one and two hundred the long term campaigns to have these people reintegrated back into the cities and villages is is working for the most part most most people have defected and the most important factor of all most of the people who were with Joseph Kony you probably wouldn't actually want a bomb so he's got kids with him he's got young girls essentially slaves people that you want to help and save rather than kill so here's a clip of Jason and Ben talking about that a lot of her comments were related to the fact that Joseph Kony is not by himself there's a lot of innocent women and children and abducted fighters that are near him and so any approach to stop the LRA it needs to be since I think that that's actually part of the deliberate strategy by Kearney had some you know it's a permanent hostage situation in some way where'd all those fat stacks go swiggity swoogity /black we had all the money go well that's a difficult question to answer because it's very hard to know without being within the organization but my understanding is this after Kony 2012 came out they thought wow what an enormous success despite you know some of the debris despite you know the mental breakdown and all that sort of stuff we've raised 23 million dollars this year fantastic there's so much we can do with that they have a model which is like 70% goes into production advertising getting the message out communications all this sort of stuff and 30% goes to the course that's not a good ratio it's a bad ratio but they're open and honest about it anyway but they raised twenty three million dollars three tenths of it goes to the cause so they said okay we've found a model that gives us enormous success let's replicate that here's the new campaign we're going to call it the Fourth Estate it is even broader and the idea of the Fourth Estate is essentially a an absolute up ending of the power structure of yeah it's it's like it's I don't even think they entirely knew what it was once all three days a citizenship founded on the belief [Music] are created and injustice for is not a fantasy it just ended up being so vague like end polity one of those kind of campaigns anyway after the whole controversy after kony2012 died out and they and they haven't been able to communicate or deliver any really concrete results like you know Kearney wasn't dead Kearney wasn't captioned people didn't really look at the Fourth Estate you know you can you can look at the difference in views like ones a hundred and three million and the other this list seventy thousand incredible drop-off so they had spent a whole bunch of money producing the Fourth Estate and then in the year 2013 they raised far less money it was it was like eleven million twelve million something like that less than half right but they in that time they had started expanding their operations so they went okay this model doesn't work right we're gonna have to we're gonna have to take a new approach and so since then I believe what they have done is take what remains of that twenty three million and put it towards long-term small-scale localized projects that actually are effective in the region flyer campaigns building schools infrastructure education programs radio tower networks then outreach programs with other organizations so in 2017 technically they closed their doors but on the U n jobs page they're still hiring so they you know they primarily as I understand of work with other organizations that's what's been done with the money it's mostly focused on those small-scale long-term localized projects so it's my understanding that a good portion of that money has gone to the right place oMG have you seen that video of one of the founders of Invisible Children drinking and saying he's going to steal some of the money question mark I wanted to address this one quickly just in case someone else brought it up and used it as a way to criticize Invisible Children so I'll play the video about me there's is it here 100,000 for Haiti and 900,000 and extra for me get on the bandwagon hey Africa is gonna come up in the world hey guys so that was one of the founders of Invisible Children the way this video presents us that he's drunk and saying that he's gonna keep nine tenths of a million dollars for himself and his organization and one tenth is gonna go to Haiti but the key thing to keep in mind here is that it's a joke it's like absolutely a joke this was published by TMZ shortly after the Kony 2012 video and when Jason was caught naked on the street as a way to further discredit the charity and first of all that Smirnoff bottle was filled with water he's not drinking vodka and second the whole purpose of the video is to congratulate his co-workers so they're in a different office across the country and this and he's basically saying congratulations you secured a grant of a million dollars for this cause Haiti I don't know all the precise details of it and he's just trying to have a [ __ ] laugh right they've been working towards something for a long time and they finally succeeded in getting it and then you know he's making a joke and this was presented as them stealing money from Haiti and I thought that's a pretty nasty and unfair thing to do what was Connie's response to the whole thing so the LRA put out an official statement when the Kony 2012 video was released they said indeed this is not the first time the Invisible Children has been used to play such a dirty role in Uganda The Invisible Children have been used to cover up on many occasions for the vile acts of the us-supported military regime of Uganda in its dirty war activities that his army has carried out against the civilian population in northern northeastern and Midwestern andá-- just to elaborate a little that's that's essentially the LRS purpose they see the uganda government as illegitimate they've purpose supposed to overthrow the government so that maybe it is a little more context what they're saying and that's about it they've had their runners with Invisible Children for and they're not fans were there any arrests over the vandalism I don't think so especially not for putting posters up here free rail which is really just annoying it's just littering whatever but some people did go around just spray-painting kony2012 on things including people's garage doors that was investigated although I don't believe anyone was ever arrested over it while the AG double hockey sticks just George Clooney have us by satellite it's the first thing to clarify is he doesn't own it he's essentially renting it it cost like ten million dollars just to launch the satellite at starting price and the upkeep is astronomical so he's partnering with Google and a whole bunch of other companies to do this supposedly they've managed to achieve some things like detecting bombs destroyed villages and some other evidence of destruction by the Sudanese army the the logic behind it as George Clooney says is that well if he is constantly being hounded by the paparazzi surely a dictator in Africa should be subject to the same level of scrutiny I don't quite follow that logic but I want I'd like the indicted war criminals to enjoy the same level of celebrity as me that seems fair that's our objective is to just shine a light on it but maybe it's doing some good it's hard to say where does Kony be at these days I don't want to pretend like I know more than I do so I'll have to be very surface level in the politics but this is what I understand the LRA operates very opportunistically they bumble around all these different areas on the borders of the Central African Republic the Congo Uganda sometimes Sudan South Sudan so he could be anywhere really it's most likely that he's somewhere in the Central African Republic but it could also be that he's taking refuge in Sudan now the reason for that as I understand you have essentially a civil conflict between the LRA and the government of Uganda now in Sudan and South Sudan it was a conflict as well you gained a support of the split and supported South Sudan Sudan the northern version of Sudan the bad one which is run by El Bashar he was not particularly happy about that so he funded the LRA as well as a bunch of more extremist Islamic groups to cause havoc in South Sudan and continue some of their operations in Uganda as well which is which is interesting because the LRA stands for the Lord's Resistance Army they are you know one part army and in some ways one part cold they're supposed to be a fundamentalist Christian group but here they are a lying with Islamist groups so a lot of this conflict has largely died down so there doesn't mean that the relationship between El Bashar and Joseph Kony is not existing anymore so it may be that Kony is in refuge in the south of North Sudan in a similar situation possibly two to let the way bin Laden was being housed in Pakistan a lot of that is speculation it's hard to know but again I'm not gonna pretend to know that I know more than I do take all of that with a boulder sized grain of salt so yeah what is Joseph Kony up to these days [ __ ] hiding out or they're actively roaming around just keeping out of the way of the local armies and waiting for the next opportunity to build up their forces again got any more clips and they're all y'all's gonna include this as well but I couldn't make it work masturbate yeah oh that's funny I've lost the video for it I was kind of included in the video this is this is where his eye actually is in the video and so I just sort of fixed it for him because organization and so we were like it's sort of looked down on his face of the traditional box of what you think about charity and nonprofit and we break it so I just sort of fixed it for him anyways can I have that as a joke in the video everything I thought wasn't aware for it oh this was a clip I didn't use so I'm gonna wait for those funny I felt this old clip which i think is worth watching of a young filly D I mean jumping on this movement and actually doing something in real life because the point of Kony 2012 is to make Joseph Kony famous people whether in hiding or not that is not a world I want to be in and that's the point of Kony 2012 is to make things and pony the most infamous man on the planet strike on the infection that is Joseph Kony's evil on this planet oh I'll provide this to the this the green screen is of Jason dancing I figured someone who want that and here's the one of under view if you want to put this in your own video and here's grant fall try crying and it's about it thanks for watching

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Length: 36min 32sec (2192 seconds)

Published: Mon Dec 17 2018