Journalist Palki Sharma Opens Up - UNPOPULAR Opinions Of India & The World | The Ranveer Show 290

maybe there are 200 people with blue ticks and whatever who are uh calling you go the media or whatever it is that they say right but that's just them they are not India they are just a very very very small part of India as I am as you are in my mind they should not be getting undue attention or influence one of the most challenging interviews that I did was with parvez Musharraf he'd been the general he'd been the president of Pakistan so you don't want to be caught out on facts you want to be prepared with everything if he says this this should be my counter if he says this then this this is what I should come back to him with to his credit he did not ask for questions you're more likely to be killed by a teenager with a gun in the U.S today than in Afghanistan that says a lot about what they're turning into she's one of the most respected journalists out there because of her opinions because of her research because of her delivery and because of her well-rounded approach to journalism I just represent the youth and this was a youth and New Age media meets old age media episode of the ranveer show not going to speak too much about palki Sharma because many of you viewers already know her for those of you who don't I promise you I'm introducing you to a library of knowledge through introducing you to palki Sharma she's the first of many journalists that we're going to bring on the runway show so enjoy this episode make sure you follow us on Spotify but Spotify exclusive every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world by meditation app level is now live on the apps on the Play Store check that out as well for now this is palki Sharma on the runway show [Music] how are you very well thank you you're the first person from the world of Journalism that we've had on the show ever uh and uh I was actually waiting for you to be on the show to begin this whole journalism aspect of TRS so firstly thank you secondly welcome my pleasure thank you for having me here why do you think you have this kind of cult following now cult follows you do have a cult following really yeah that's news to me I cannot get my own children to watch my news really when I influence them and when I impress them enough then I'll I'll but thank you for saying it and thank you for everyone who's watching I really appreciate it you know a lot of that cult following comes from outside of this country which is insane for technically for Content creators sitting in this country this is the dream especially if you're making English content and I feel as we're moving forward in time this line between the world of Journalism and content creation is kind of getting blurred please correct me if I'm wrong or if you think differently no you have a point um but I think uh but I think as journalists um we tend to think of ourselves as I know how should I put it uh that we have more responsibility I think yeah right and uh we are scrutinized more because we are supposed to be serving a purpose we are called the fourth pillar uh while Bollywood has done so much more or entertainment industry is so much done so much more they're not called the fourth pillar of of democracy so so in a sense there's that there's that weight um of of narrative creation but you're right that we are all at the end of the day I've always said we are all storytellers we are all telling something to the audience and the audience has increasingly stopped distinguishing between news and reels and shorts and everything else for them what is coming on their phone they like a video they don't like a video that's that's pretty much it have you seen the social dilemma it's a documentary about algorithms on Netflix and how algorithms control the whole world now and opinions and it's the reason behind why the whole world uh in silos is completely polarized so for example in the American Silo everyone's on their right wing or their left wing and it's usually onto extremense but the same can be said for everywhere in the world even India right now it's we call it right-wing or left wing but it's actually promo the anti-movie and this is what came up on yesterday's show with Rajiv Malhotra now the thing is in this primarily extreme right and extreme left atmosphere if you're a Centrist if you're apolitical if you have a slightly right leaning perspective or a slightly left-leaning perspective and on top of that if you're famous and you're an opinion maker thought leader you're categorized as one of the two okay for example uh on this show we've done a lot of videos on Hinduism why because it's a topic of interest for me since I was a kid I'm automatically categorized on the right and anything I say politically is always met with some criticism from the left if I make uh any say now again because we're doing inter-religious studies on the podcast if we do an episode on Islam or Christianity then I'm suddenly categorized as an extreme left and I get criticized by like the extreme right in truth I feel like I'm a Centrist and it's ethical for me relay information do you also get some sort of criticism like that like I know your brand image is associated with being India first uh but there will be a lot of people who actually categorize you as Pro Modi and then put you on an extreme right just because you're India first like if you don't say that oh the country is going to the dogs then you're a promo you're not a right-wing person so I know you think of this what do you think of it well I have so much to say about this um I don't know where to start but uh yes people do categorize you people do label you we are in a world where people are always boxed into these different segments whether or not they think they belong there um and the people who do it are entitled to their opinion that's fine initially it used to bother me and I thought that I have to clear the air and and say that okay I may agree with ex-person's policy on such and such thing but that does not mean I'm a cheerleader for that person or that government or whatever um but over the years I've realized that um and there are two parts to this one um most of this opinion flows from Twitter how big is Twitter in India we are a country of 140 1.4 billion people 140 crores so uh there's just a handful of people who get disproportionate representation in the opinion making space and think that what they are saying is what the country is thinking you'll have to break down that that's too high level of thought handful of people so okay so uh if if maybe there are 200 people with blue ticks and whatever who are uh calling you go the media or whatever it is right but that's just them hmm I also look at the audience that is watching me I also look at the trend in which this country is voting and how they are not India they are just a very very very small part of India as I am as you are so I sh they should not be or in my mind they should not be getting undue attention or influence that is one in my case a lot of these people are also for want of a better expression failed TV journalists really if you're so good then do it yourself instead of sitting outside and telling me how to do my job well that's true a lot of the intense rules are failed content creators and how much time and effort and mental space are you going to give to such people and such voices that is not to say that you don't take criticism seriously but you see what kind of criticism there is you have to surround yourself with people who can constructively criticize you let me say this about it uh I think uh journalists like all individuals have opinion to say that I don't uh have an opinion on something or I am not biased towards something would be a lie and to say that that only you know the the way in which the world has come to be understood only unbiased journalism is credible journalism is not exactly right you know the first newspaper in India was called uh hickeys Bengal Gazette and it was an anti-british newspaper so was it biased because it only did stories against imperialists as journalists we are supposed to take a stand against uh big corporations that are exploiting workers are we biased yes we are biased towards workers towards their rights so journalists have always taken a stand the mere decision to say that this is a headline and this is not a headline is an expression of your bias according to me this is important and this is what you should know but this is something that you may not want to know or I don't think it's important enough in every decision that we take uh we in some way let our buyers speak and I remember reading something very interesting and tell me if it's too complicated so back in the day the American Media uh and all other media started practicing what what was called both sidism you give both sides of the story because advertisers wanted a large section of the society to consume the content to see their ads and then come and buy their products so they didn't want to want to upset anyone any side uh the Americans progressed fairly fast and the media started wearing their ideology on their uh you know sleeve as it were and started saying that this is pro-republican this is pro-democrat it became very clear in India we we never showed it that does not mean that they were not there weren't any biases or leanings but we pretended that we are we're following both sides of giving both sides of the story that that does not work you you lay the facts out on the table and I I think it's the most more honest approach when you say this is what happened but this is what I feel about it this is where I'm coming from so I think I'm having a very honest conversation with my Audience by telling them that this is my opinion on such and such subject and I think you're smart enough to form your own I will not shove it down your throat that is my understanding of of how fair journalism should be done that is not to say that you suppress the facts on the other side but you give your opinion I was once in a room where my co-founder viraj was having a conversation with another content creator who was saying oh journalists are dead journalists are dying things like that and viral said okay if journalists are dying uh why is it that only journalists can ask people hard hitting questions and interviews like a commentator would never do that because a quantitative honestly wants to maintain their relationships with billionaires and with politicians if they ever won the show but Jonas will ask the extremely hard-hitting questions which I feel is your responsibility to society and it's possibly one of the more traditional uh occupations and there's a very important place in society for journalism don't have relationships I would like to know that they do we do how do you think you get an interview hmm uh in my experience every time I have written to a head of state or a leader in India or outside in 99 of the cases they ask for questions in some cases they also want to have a say in the edit really yes um do you allow them one of my colleagues went and I will not name the country but uh when he landed there he was told that you can keep your camera aside we have a camera team we will record the interview and we will send you a tape after it has been post-produced the choices between taking that interview or not taking that interview sometimes you stand your ground this one time I was uh I was given a a stool and the person I was interviewing him had a interviewing had a basically a huge throne and I was told this is a president and I was told that the president will not sit on the in a chair that's similar to yours and I said I'm going because I'm not his subject uh it's a very small thing but you know for a viewer it would it's really funny and it's not it's not okay so sometimes you take a stand and you say no I'm not going to do this and then sometimes you just think that okay maybe if I let them strike off this question I can ask something else that is tougher uh most mature leaders will take tough questions in their stride last week I had a very interesting conversation with the former U.S defense secretary it was a good conversation and then he went on and on about how America is fostering and you know working on democracy and wants it to be spread across the world and so on and so forth at which point I asked him that if you're so keen on Democracy uh why do you have one Democratic allies in West Asian you kept on working with China as long as it worked out for you and then you when it did not you say China as a threat so it's basically a bogie that you use a convenient argument he did not have an answer but that does not mean he once we were off the stage he started fighting with me no he did not right so so mature leaders would take questions and then still have a conversation with you after that so we do have relationships relationships lead to interviews relationship leads leads to stories a lot of times the challenge is to to maintain that Six Degrees of Separation and explain that while we can have a civil conversation and be in touch I'm doing my job and you're doing your job and my job says that I should be able to ask you the questions I think I want to ask you okay and you can answer them the way you want to okay what's been the most tense interview situation you've been in are you gonna take names yeah yeah okay one of the most challenging interviews that I did was with parvez Musharraf it was in his house in Dubai and I have never prepared for an interview like I did then because I knew that he was very tough and he um it was one of my one of my first bigger interviews he's very tough as in like tough guy to speak to see all of my understanding of the subject is it is red and what I have covered as a journalist where is his understanding of it is as someone who's been in the thick of things so you don't want to be caught out on facts you want to be prepared with everything if he says this this should be my counter if he says this then this this is what I should come back to him with to his credit he did not ask for questions I went with 55 questions and he gave me the time and we did that interview I think it was a good interview but I was extremely tense and I did not want to get anything wrong there so also with the india-pakistan equation and you know there's a lot of judgment that comes flying at you um your body language your expression you know you're sitting in his house you can't be like going with a gun at his head right you have to smile once in a while so for a viewer it's very hard to I think relate to the Dynamics that are at play when an interview is being done yeah so you have to think of a lot of things okay and the next question when someone is talking how was it speaking to him but it was good but why are you why did you say it's tense like it the actual conversation was tense no the actual conversation was not I think in the run-up to the conversation I just I just wanted to make sure and I I tend to I was telling you earlier I think unprepared and um I like to have a pen I like to have numbers I like to have data I want to have a comeback if somebody is saying something which I don't agree with and I want to have a credible solid comeback not like I don't agree with you okay okay um when you interview someone over an hour or so you get to know about the person's energy who it is as a human being and I think that's a trip of podcasts yeah what was Human Side like what did you learn about him in that interaction because there's a bunch of questions that reveal data but the thing is what audiences don't pick up on in interviews is you also get to know subliminal things about the person yeah I think he was a man who is really full of himself like incredible this man when I met him was living in Exile he lost his power he had cases against him if he went back to Pakistan then he would probably be hung out to dry and yet he told me I'm gonna go back and I will probably contest an election and uh no people in Pakistan love me and I mean really what are you smoking even if you read his book he said I was the best student in school I was the best in college I came out with flying colors okay people can be narcissistic but who talks about himself like that he really believed that he came with a with an ulterior sort of mission and he was going to change the fate of Pakistan as it happened he died in Exile but he was really uh he was he was civil he was courteous he was a good host but is this the case with a lot of world leaders and they're stuck in a bit of a bubble I don't blame them because everything around them is Catered towards them their day their priorities their opinions they've earned it in life and then the bubble gets formed so I've met some very very humble leaders as well okay who are not who have self-deprecating tumor to um some of them are very well read like I went and uh once interviewed a president in Armenia who told me so much about Gandhi Kid read and he was a very aerody well spoken well-read person so sometimes they do surprise you because your research does not tell you all of that or maybe I did not do it well enough but but you you do meet people who pleasantly surprise you who are not as you know would not in a la la land who don't think that the world revolves around them okay I began my career a mentor of mine told me that the easiest way to create change in society is to influence the influencers but you need people to influence the influences and I think that's what you're doing right now uh which is why I find it really cool that you put in really sharp things in your but uh for example you didn't call covid-19 covid-19 ever you called it the Wuhan virus uh okay what's what why firstly one layer deep Y in terms of why do you choose to do these things and then one layer above that is what's up in China according to you like what's gonna happen this is the whole geopolitical part of the podcast okay I'll start with the last question what's gonna happen if they don't get rid of that president of theirs they are in trouble okay uh he's just started his third term um again like we discussed there are some leaders who believe that they come with a higher purpose and they sort of become delusional and he's just announced his new team and the Seven top men uh in the Chinese government now have been hand-picked by Xi Jinping and their only claim to fame is that that they're loyal to him right their positions are tied to their loyalty to the president and that's a very dangerous position to be in for long he's been called the chairman of everything he controls every important body political military or economic um and he's irrational erratic unpredictable uh China as a China story is basically the story of its economy rising and then the political aspirations following so Mao zidong had his own ideas about what would work and what wouldn't and some of them were crazy and we saw the cultural revolution and the Long March and the things that he made people do and then during Deng shopping's era they sort of got their act together and this is a leader who told the Chinese to to hide their strength and bite their time that's the slogan he gave them just put your heads down and do your work and there were some rules put in place on how long a president could serve and what sort of committees would be there China has calls itself a democracy but has largely been an authoritarian state with very limited democracy if at all there doesn't there isn't any now uh but they made a lot of progress and the leadership thought that if you give a certain standard of living and economic progress then people will not ask for political freedoms that is the bargain it worked till it worked and then you had someone like Xi Jinping who came on the scene and who said first of all I will get rid of the military leaders you know that Purge that he started in the name of fighting corruption has been on and tens of thousands of leaders military officials government officials have been purged he has slowly but surely Consolidated power to a point where no one can question what he's doing so for months there is going to be zero covert and all of Shanghai is going to be locked down and there is no there is no question that is being asked and why this is being done how does it serve our purpose suddenly there's no zero covet let's open everything and people are dying left right and Center your economy is in a very bad shape your geopolitical relationships are all suffering you you truly think you're at that center of the world you know they had this idea of being called the Middle Kingdom we are the ones that link Earth with heaven he's taken it very seriously but if China does not export to the world then it's the end of the China story and if countries consciously and in very large numbers stop buying from China and truly diversify their suppliers then how are they going to redeem themselves so they are in a very very precarious situation right now you anticipate the people are not going to continue beyond a point why will they why will they do you know China has spends more on internal security than on the military outside their leaders are very scared about protests at home have you been to China yes and what's the vibe and I went to Wuhan hmm when Prime Minister Modi went a few years back uh he this was uh this was a summit between Prime Minister Modi and president XI and this also ties into the next question that you asked on why the Wuhan virus because I've seen that City firsthand the full City and I saw the people they were very friendly I saw the police that was less friendly they chased us away not letting us do a lot of things you needed permits for everything we we faced the struggles that we faced in countries like China while reporting there countries like China being there are some countries where media freedoms are restricted you need a lot of paperwork to do anything so then in 20 not even 2020 actually 2019 December somebody in my team came and said there's some disease you know that's spreading in China and such and such thing has happened and uh we picked the story one day then two days later he came again and said this is happening so we started reading and it did not add up I or my team we do not have an anti-china agenda we just stumbled upon a story and we investigated and went deeper and deeper and we found that there's a there's a lot of problem here that the world is not talking about and because I had seen that City uh and to see images of Wuhan locked up and people standing in queues and hazmat suits uh students not getting what they wanted was a bit jarring for me also the year 2020 on a personal front was a very difficult one for me and then the year that followed I mean vivall I'm sure seeing um very bad days during the pandemic uh we've seen people in our family end up in hospital both my children were down with kovid for no fault of theirs what did they do um we've lost relatives friends and how do you get away with this I mean it wasn't personal but now it is basically calling it a bio weapon I'm I don't know if it's a bio weapon all I'm saying is that the virus spread and the Chinese government did not do enough to a won the world and if they have nothing to hide then why don't they let an investigation happen why have you destroyed data samples why have you not given access to that Laboratory what are you hiding if you have nothing to hide so the least that we can it can be an accident it can be a bio weapon it can be a lab-created virus frankly I don't have an answer because I don't have proof but the least I deserve and you deserve and everyone else in this room deserves is to know why we went through that that horror for two years how can we let someone get away with this and call him to meetings and shake hands with him and say everything is okay hmm it's not okay with me okay I don't know about that but I definitely think some powerful people get pissed off with you like honestly I'm being very Royal but has have they ever gotten in touch saying hey we're pissed off with you why'd you say no they do complain obviously there are complaints uh but but I think if no one's upset and offended then you're only doing PR what happens of those complaints if they have Merit then we uh course correct most of the times they don't so we let it be I did something on on say for instance Malaysian palm oil and how palm oil is in everything that we're eating you know the food that we eat from outside and really impacts your health and so on and so forth and orangutans that too I'm going no so uh no but we got these long letters from the palm oil Association palm oil is harmful for health you may not like our story but it's a story so I mean that's a small example but I'm just saying that a lot of times people register a complaint for the sake of it and okay we've seen it and okay we are happy to publish your version but please stand by our story okay uh coming back to China let's close that Loop okay we have a separate Channel called TRS clip so this is the long form podcast which goes up on this channel which is beer by myself and we have a separate Channel where there are only highlights for uh you know audiences that don't want to consume an entire show and by doing this I've both marketed that channel and two I'm closing this Loop you're so smart Let's uh close this uh China Loop what do you think is gonna happen in the 20s and uh probably when the 30s begin I think there's a real risk of war with Taiwan I think that's that's uh topmost on their agenda they really want to they've made it about their Prestige and they want to do with Taiwan what they did with Hong Kong I've been to Hong Kong too I've seen the beautiful city uh that it was and now what it has become um so so I don't see um the expansionism abating I I think that it's it's only this whole while they their diplomacy is changing tactics you know they used to be called The Wolf Warriors they would go everywhere say all sorts of things to people now they're toning it down taking a softer approach even projecting themselves as victims and saying we are not the wolves we are dancing with the Wolves which is America and the rest but I think there is a this this attempt to power grab and grab land is very much there the worrying part is what is happening on the border with India that situation is far from resolved we've had multiple rounds of talks uh despite everything China remains our biggest trading partner um and that's not a good place to be in uh diversification and bring building Alternatives cannot happen overnight it'll take time so we have to buy that time keep up our defenses and become self-reliant or Atman as they say in the government uh I don't see the Chinese uh political thinking uh shifting significantly is actually a strong geopolitical move it is it's an out and out geopolitical move but to be able to be digested by the masses you have to Brand it in a certain way that's effectively what it is we need to stop relying on China because but we can't stop relying on China not yet over the next decade at the height of this whole galwan thing I remember and this was also during the lockdowns and the intermittent whatever periods and I was at a neighborhood toy shop and there was this kid he must have not been more than 10 or 11 years old would come to buy something with his father you think he wanted to buy a racket and every time the shopkeeper gave him something he's like either made in China but but he said Made in India um so as as a concept we may all agree that we don't want to buy those things but what is the alternative are we creating enough options so it's going to take time I think okay uh moving on while we're speaking about borders what's your take on Pakistan's current and future scenarios Pakistan is a is a Perpetual nuisance is how I put it but right now they are uh they are in a in a bit of a spot because see their traditional support base has been the US and uh while you see how Prime Minister Modi is going to be going on a state visit to the US this summer and we are like a strategic partner a comprehensive strategic partner whatever everything's going great we are working together on semiconductors military it wasn't always like that for the longest time the Americans kept India in play but also kept India in check and to keep India in check they kept promoting the pakistanis uh it's a fact we've all seen how when we were developing missiles in the 90s the Americans imposed sanctions on us on ISRO on drdo on others but the pakistanis were doing whatever they were doing with the AQ Khan Network and they just Bush senior and then for a brief while Clinton also looked the other way they just it was I think the Turning Point really was the kargil misadventure from the Pakistani side until then they were given a lot of leeway and they were given a lot of money now what's happened is that money the source of that money is drying up and now they're depending on the Chinese for that money but the Chinese money is very very tricky to get it is a debt trap and they will not think twice before pulling the rug from under your feet you know these Chinese power companies that operated in Pakistan they did not get their bills so Pakistan was plunged Into Darkness for the longest time you must have seen about the you know Nationwide power Cuts so those things happen then the Pakistani State invested a lot on the Taliban now the Taliban have a country to run and the Taliban are showing them that they have they also have a mind of Their Own they are behaving like the Taliban and that poses a serious security challenge I don't know if you followed the news but in in recent weeks there have been cases of gunfire at the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan they're fighting back and they're saying if you want us to curb terrorists on your soil the Pakistani Taliban you will have to pay for it and you'll have to pay this much money where will they pay from they can barely run their country so the economy is is on the brink of collapse the source of money is drying up um Pakistani is also for the longest time depended on countries in West Asia with their whole Muslim ummah Brotherhood thing but India in the last few years has really strengthened its relationship with Arab states we look at UAE you look at Oman you look at Saudi Arabia it's they are not going to be on a point support Pakistan and Kashmir the Turkish did but look I think what we did with the Turkish earthquake is is a master stroke we send Aid so we are neutralizing slowly all of the pockets of support that the Pakistani regime had and now they are this there's so much disturbance within you know Imran Khan every day they say he's going to be arrested He Still Remains a very popular leader there's unrest in Balochistan there's unrest there's it's like the perfect storm that Pakistan is going through and we don't want the state to collapse because we can't change the geography we can't change who our neighbor is and that all of that tension will at to some level spill over what's your geopolitical prediction is it too complicated or even deeper no no this is fine I think but I thought I I touched too many threads people love this kind of content okay yeah geopolitics is really uh kind of awaited by college students now and by teenagers which is what's schooled when I was a teenager it wasn't the case didn't know what's up internet's made people smarter through information and now it's the it's the age of opinions so anyway go on what's your geopolitical prediction because I feel it's one thing to talk about what's happening now and there are very few people who can kind of I don't want to say predict the future because it sounds gimmicky but that's basically what I'm asking you to do about Pakistan like where do you think it's going in this decade and you're the right person to answer this because of how much you have to observe because of your job yeah so where is Pakistan going I think it's going uh deeper into the China Club um and uh that is the new challenge for the West because they don't want this to happen at the same time they don't want to give money to the Pakistani General so how do they they control the Beast without feeding it more so the world wants to make sure that Pakistan does not become another North Korea it also doesn't become another Afghanistan but Pakistan in itself I mean I think the world is very late in realizing how much of a threat it poses and there is no such thing as a good terrorist and a bad terrorist for the longest and the kind of money the Americans have pumped into Pakistan is insane they've given them weapons they've given them practically everything they wanted such a skewed policy and now they're doing the same thing with Ukraine you know Ukraine is being supplied a lot of ammunition that is coming from Pakistan Poland and and the UK and Canada they've signed deals they're working with the pakistanis it's it's very it's the mindset that because you don't share a border with Pakistan it does not pose a threat to you is so flawed because 9 11 happened to the U.S and it did not happen from a country that was bordering them but I think policymakers are always looking at um at managing problems and not solving them you're basically saying it's been a volatile country ever since its Inception and therefore going forward as is the case with volatility it's unpredictable what will happen but it's likely that it will be a volatile situation it may break up for all we know the country may break up this there's just too much too much tension and the fault lines are really beginning to show do you have prediction for roughly when no okay I'm not into predictions you do believe that borders constantly change as is the case with history right like borders constantly change over the course of human history yeah but after the what has changed a lot but I think uh in the last 100 odd years with the concept of nation-states emerging you know we're not kingdoms anymore we're not like countries uh operate with in multilateral forums with rules that apply and most in the 200 hour countries that we have in this world barring a handful most do follow those rules so I think going forward climate change will change more borders than geopolitics okay um you know a thousand years from now the human race still exists they're gonna look at our generation and our great grandparents generation is roughly the same time because it's a thousand years in the future yeah but they'll watch our podcast and they'll know it's not the same which it might in the next thousand years and internet wires get destroyed and data gets destroyed on memory cards you know that's an actual possibility for comet hits wow yeah and comets hit the earth regularly it's just not spoken about enough and cause a lot of damage and look into the work of Summer called Randall Carlson sorry that's we're going we're going history uh okay uh but I still I still believe that during our lifetimes we are going to see some borders change yes yes we are seeing borders change you know this whole thing with Ukraine it's happening uh uh yes what is that changing in the same way that I asked about China and Pakistan I want to ask you about USA uh primarily because you have a lot of fans from there as well so one what's your geopolitical commentary on it and uh second what do you think is the future third what's your message to the fans oh let's start with the fans thank you so much for watching thank you I'm always amazed that people want to hear what I have to say so that's great um what will happen to the USA uh the US is a is a fabulous country if you if you've been there you would great places to eat lovely weather most of the times very interesting people there are obvious problems too um you're more likely to be killed by a teenager with a gun in the U.S today than in Afghanistan that says a lot about what they're turning into the fact that they have denied half of their population a basic right on their own bodies is unbelievable I don't have a strong enough adjective to use here but really uh to say that women do not have the right uh to abort an unwanted baby is taking the country back to Stone ages why do you think the source of that thought has come from where do you think the source it's politics okay this is all Republicans Church you know life pro-life but this is not pro-life a woman is already a life form and what by by forcing a baby on her you know you are ruining one life and potentially the life of the child who is going to be an unwanted child into this world and medical science is Advanced enough to know at what point it's okay to abort I have very strong views in this and I since you've been discussing content and all uh I did a series of reports on abortion they got no viewership foreign but I think that's it's a subject that must be touched upon it's not okay for so many women to suffer uh when when childbirth is not a woman's doing alone but but in nine times out of ten she has to suffer the consequences of it so for a society that calls itself forward-looking developed it's a huge blot on the US um the third issue is because everyone knows the positives anyway you know what's going great that they're they're on top of their Tech game they're doing great they're businesses that really is the whole concept of taking the moral High Ground even when they have no feet to stand on they just tell the world they lecture the world what to do how to do it um they have immense of power I mean everyone talks about what NASA is doing I'm not sure how many people can name the space agency of Japan or China or you know um if if a child is picked up for a NASA course it's in the newspapers in India but if they're doing something with this row they'll probably make it to the school board or if Kim Kardashian is doing something exactly exactly so that's off power and due credit where they deserve it so they have it and they have hard power they have the military um they try to dictate the rules of how the world should be run um but they also have a very cute understanding of what the sensibilities of this part of the world they've not really figured it out I think Americans also sometimes tend to you know as they say they use a sledgehammer to crack a nut they shot down a 16 balloon with a million dollar missile they're really not thinking sometimes it's funny so they have they have some obvious problems I think that whole superpower status is slowly eroding because the world is beginning to see the double standards I mean how can you lecture other people on rights of minorities when blacks are suffering in your country um are they in the past a lot of a lot of these things were not said now they are and now the whole world is looking for an alternative narrative and for spaces where you can say these things and say them openly I think the West has for for a very long time tried to tell us how to be what to eat how to eat how to think what to read Maybe we're done with it um but there's still a lot of people who'll agree with aspects of their version of social sciences yes in India sitting in India absolutely and will still apply to Indian problems which are extremely unique to our country and our geography and our history and so you know when they took over Iraq um and this is from a book that a journalist wrote there was somebody who was a volunteer or some worker in the Republican party in San Francisco and he was asked to do something with the traffic department in Iraq and he didn't know what to do because he had no experience so he went to the website of the traffic rules for San Francisco and copied them for Iraq um it does it doesn't work uh so what works in America may not work here that is not to say that they don't have some great institutions and good Concepts and great places to study um all I'm trying to say is that it's not right to think of everything western or American as the gold standard my reading is after meeting a ton of Americans again you can't generalize but for the most part at least the ones that travel are are relatively friendly but they're just unaware of what's happening in the rest of the world a little bit and that's probably because of the media in that country and uh also I do believe that American problems do affect the rest of the world therefore Americans are more focused on American problems and politics rather than what's happening in the world which prevents them from having a bit of a worldview when you talk to Europeans it's a very different scenario they're kind of aware there is a way Stark difference when you meteorologists there's a clear Trend that people in developed countries tend to look inwards and are not interested in what may be happening elsewhere whereas people in the developing world like an average Indian is is any day more aware of not just the local and National politics but also International Affairs compared to an average American yeah uh and I don't think that's that's gonna change you can't you can't like shift culture yeah um okay that's it that's the end of the podcast wonderful how is it for you very good okay uh I don't think I've done complete Justice to this conversation which is why I invite you back the next time you're in Bombay or whenever you uh think it's the right time to be back on the show uh I feel like this was just one big icebreaking session honestly and I hope that you had fun I did thank you so much and uh I hope your audience likes what we discussed and I hope your uh numbers and metrics show that this is a conversation worth repeating or having again but it is you see how it goes in the middle of the episode you asked me about uh whether or not I found my headline for this particular episode uh the headline is your name because people just want to hear what you have to say that's what podcasts are uh and before I let you go I will ask you one last question maybe you can answer briefly or in a long form if you wish you said that uh you believe more in trusting a combination of intuition and data rather than just being completely data driven that's a very interesting thought and I I bring it up in the end because this question is honestly close to my heart and I forgot to ask in the middle of the conversation but uh I believe in the same thing that I feel like if you just allow data to dictate all your decisions um you'll end up with a little bit of a robotic result which will lack some kind of nectar you need for getting the best possible results I agree I think every year so many students go to MBA colleges good bad not so good all over the world um and while the campuses may be substantially different teachers quality of teaching Etc they're more or less studying the same case studies the same economics the same maths right then why is it that some of them end up becoming great star CEOs and leaders of companies who change their industry While most others are just doing a basic day job because those few took risks uh the best example that I've read so far is that of Steve Jobs had he followed a market analytics and what his team told him there would never have been an iPod there was no market demand for a gadget that stores songs and lets you listen to them but he wanted it he went with it and it changed how we consume music for the whole world so I'm not saying that that you can base your decisions on only intuition but what makes a leader Stand Out is how he processes the data and the trends and the feedback and what what of himself or herself he puts into that that is where intuition that is where gut feeling that is where conviction that is where the risk-taking appetite comes in and we need that if we don't have it if we don't take risks if we don't say okay while all of this does not add up let's give it a shot because we won't know what it will be if we don't then you're not you're not making anything new yeah and this is what AI can never replace this Nuance thank you uh be back soon genuinely really nice talking to you and I'm going to ask you spicy and deeper questions sure sure no but thank you and I hope uh this episode was fun for you it was thank you so much for having me here thank you that was the episode for today I've wanted to bring on journalists for a while but the honest truth is that I felt I didn't know enough about the world in order to have a high level conversation with journalists until now the podcast has been kind enough to my mind in terms of making me meet some incredible people getting to learn some incredible things getting to learn along with you guys that's what I love about my job but I finally reached a point where I feel capable of speaking to a journalist and extracting the best possible content for you guys I'd like to know from you guys in the comment section who else you'd like to see on the runway show please drop your comments tell us especially from the world of Journalism whose opinions would you like to listen to and what topics would you like those journalists to speak about we will listen to you folks about Guest recommendations there's another intensely good geopolitics podcast that's coming up pretty soon make sure you look out for that one oops did I say I think I said that there's a lot of incredible guests that are coming up on the runway show you are not ready for some of these people all I'll say is download my meditation app level from the App Store the play store to get your mind ready to absorb some incredible knowledge but also follow us on Spotify every episode of TRS is live on Spotify 48 hours before it's live on any other platform we are just getting started even though it's episode number 400 maybe I don't understand mathematics or maybe I'm just a Serial Optimist Booyakasha we'll see you soon baby [Music] thank you

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Length: 54min 13sec (3253 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 24 2023