John Paul Discusses Hearing the Voice of God on Joni Table Talk

coming up prophecy and hearing the voice of God we dive deep into the prophetic with special guest John Paul Jackson for an uninterrupted chat you don't want to miss next on Joni everyone has a story in the spiritual world God is greater than anything that is out there nothing is too difficult for him every life has something to share the Bible says the Lord is good and he knows those that trust in him so if you trust in him who knows you and he will take care forgiving others is not optional it is necessary to walk in freedom from tragedy to triumph your memories will always be of the adventure not the arrival so savor the ride this is real talk about real topics that will change your life remember no matter what you're going through God is always there for you so grab a seat join the conversation this is Joni well we've all had those moments we hear that still small voice and it often directs us to do something that goes against our human nature like showing someone forgiveness but it's often followed by the question was that God so today we're looking at hearing the voice of God joining me around the table is my dear friend April Simon's how are you I'm doing great and I said see you have your beautiful sister Dovie by the way she told me to say I'm sorry your beautiful mother Dodie hosting welcome your Kendall ladies at the table I know I'm so through I'm so excited and another special friend that known for many many years I love her so much she's in town and I asked her to join me around the table Karen Wheaton thank you how are you to be here so I love it I love it they're gonna be good I'm ready I have a thousand questions all ready to get started and Cindy Murdoch how are you I'm great thank you and one of your favorite guests a table talk yes he's back John Paul Jackson welcome thank you thank it's great to be back I love being here so um we're talking about hearing the voice of God you know I know your testimony John Paul and I can tell the people listening that God was speaking for a very long time to John Paul and he would not listen and he would not surrender and victimhood is he's putting this is you remember that his big feet on his big corporate desk with his big head and and not listen to the voice of God don't you love that's a terrible introduction yeah but people are just like Oh John Paul he hears from God and interprets dreams but you know what it's true you had to surrender and it was an easy thing for you was it no it was not an easy thing my my family I'm a fifth-generation Christian and so my family and my mother and father in particular had plans for me and I didn't want to do those plans because I didn't want to I didn't want not want to go into the ministry at all but yeah God had other plans too and he wins doesn't yes and he he kept speaking to you it was an audible voice isn't in your hands I'm laudable sometimes in my head sometimes in my heart sometimes through circumstances and something would happen in God and I just heard this voice said son and I knew I go oh yeah this is God did this there's no doubt about it I knew it was the hand of God and then he sent a modern date prophetess Reese more to have Russell from Jerusalem Israel yeah to come to Dallas Texas to get on a radio show she's saying God sent me right just speak to a young man what did she say exactly there's a the Lord tried to go to Dallas because there was a gifted young man that's gifted to dreams and visions who was resisting to call a God of his life and that she wanted him to do it God wanted her to do a program on dreams and visions and how God speaks today to awaken this young man and that he would call in and that she was to identify him when he did and that it would change his future and so John Paul sitting there in his office praying for the young man to be obedient had no clue it was me as true had that tells you how obstinate I was but it was touching your heart to the point that you're like closing your door and listening every day to see what happened that loves I closed my door cause I was wailing so hard I thought I was I literally was crying out loud loudly and I thought I was crying because I was interceding for that young man until the Lord had me call in and even then I thought I was just calling unlike other callers you still put a fleece out though I did it was a live radio show all these people are calling and so he says finally he says okay cuz the Lord's saying it's you it's you it's you and finally he says okay well if they take my call live which they hadn't even been doing that for so many people calling goes on hold let put you on hold yeah that you called and what happened I heard you're live on the air and then he stuttered around oh I did more than stutter and then what Hebrew say and she's in the rent in the studio the radius lying on the airing she said young man what took you so long oh my good good there's a load of that story okay I had to share that little just to give you some background so can we hear the voice of God how do we know it's the voice of God or do you have the gift of prophecy to hear these are all great questions but the simplest answer is that every believer can hear the voice of God let's talk a little bit about that before you wax eloquent about it I know you will and dodi here you and your husband your late husband who's now at the Lord John Osteen you guys were married in ministry how many years 58 years Wow I just had my fifth well 44 years four months and four days we were married but he went heaven but I had my 50th anniversary just last week but anyway he did he had to hear the voice of God to get him out of the situation that he was in he hadn't been to seminary where they taught about healing but just before he got the baptism the Holy Ghost and new John Paul that Jesus did do miracles still we had a little girl that was born with a birth injury thank God he sought God she wouldn't would probably be in a wheelchair today Lisa's when the best teachers of the word of God I've ever heard and then I would been dead 31 years ago I was given up to die so thank God he learned about he the Lord healed you from camp yes yeah 31 years ago which was an amazing thing but you had to learn all through the years to hear the voice of God yes and he was good at listening yeah sometime I'm not so good at least I'm trying to be better so let's talk about that John Paul hearing the voice of God how do we do that well one you have to have a relationship with him you have to have a hunger for him and you have to have a relationship but I remember one time when I first started out in ministry and the Lord was working with me I was sitting at my desk and I hear a quiet voice say move and I go and I kind of start letting go what he goes get up now and I mean I jumped out of my chair I ran across the office I didn't even know where I was going by the time I got about 15 to 20 feet across the office to the door a car crashes through the wall hits my chair demolishes my desk and I car had avoided another car at an intersection and lost control the car went right through the brick office building wall and woulda crushed me and had I not obeyed I didn't even know what I was to do I just knew get up and move and I thought the doors the blessed best place to go to so so I went there and so sometimes you don't know where the Lord is telling you to go or what the Lord is telling you to do you just know someone the voice of the Lord outside of me is commanding me or is directing me and I need to respond need to respond to this I told you some time ago that is probably about a year and a half ago this has never happened to me before except one time I was in the bed sound asleep Markus's beside me and I heard the audible voice of God say my name Joni and it woke me up and I looked at Marcus cuz I thought he had said my name but he was sound asleep and then I thought did I dream that you know you have all so I left closed my eyes again and heard Joni and then I was like okay Lord you know and you told me what what I said what does that mean John Paul when the Lord said says your name twice and you said that every time the gods audibly spoke in scripture he spoke audibly twice Samuel Samuel saw saw Jacob Jacob Abraham Abram every time and when it wasn't I asked you what did that mean because I had no idea it's a witness the second voices is a witness he always does has a witness of everything that he says for us to do is he trying to get our attention definitely get our attention so that we mi don't hesitate we don't hesitate right so you told me to pay attention pay attention Lord's get exactly right especially some things like barely barely you said said it twice when the seizure name twice is pay attention what I'm about to say that's the only time that's ever helped happen to me and I'm not I don't I don't think we should go around praying God I want you to audibly speak to me but he has done it he did it in Scripture and he done it for you he did it for me but how else did you can people hear the voice ago there's such things just simply circumstances circumstances and people go well circumstances how does that work the Lord will plant something in you now give you an illustration that we were I was living in Moline Illinois at plant of the church there turned that over to my to my associate and was looking to move we had we had an opportunity to move and was given if we'd moved there we would we would have been given a chalet at the base of the Matterhorn in Switzerland we were also looking to move to either Raleigh Durham North Carolina or Portland Oregon or Dallas Fort Worth didn't know which one to go to and I heard just as internal voice is just knowing and I heard him say tomorrow I will speak to you didn't hear inaudible voice just I just knew that I knew it was the Lord saying tomorrow I will speak to you tomorrow I would speak to you and so I responded by how and he said read the newspaper and I go read the newspaper so I get up in the morning and I'm waiting for God to speak to me as nothing's happening and noon is coming and I'm thinking Lord just said you speak to me in the morning and then you reminded me I said read the newspaper and so he's and then I heard he just said I will speak to you in the newspaper so guess what I read the newspaper nothing on page 1 and I turned to page 2 and then big letters on the second page of the newspaper said Fort Worth Texas here we come and I knew this was the Lord now was the article from God the guy writing that know what he was doing no but the Lord used that at that headline to speak to me and tell me you're going to footwork not to Switzerland not the Portland not the Raleigh you're going to for well you know it's kind of interesting because and we'll talk about this later but the Lord kind of speaks to you in headlines yes it's prophetically that's why 60 well I want to ask April so how how has the Lord spoken to use we're all believers sitting here and we've all heard from the Lord how does he speak to you well he did speak audibly to me one time but something that I thought of mama and I were together in Houston and we were driving the car I had two kids coming from Dallas to Houston driving their first time and I was in mid conversation and my mom was driving and all of a sudden she grabbed my arm I don't know if you remember this and she said let's pray right now for garrison and Savannah I thought she just interrupted my story but she you know she felt the need she prayed simply gotta thank you for that hedge of protection around them I think he that they'll get her safely and unharmed you know within probably eight minutes my daughter Savannah called me and said mama a few minutes ago the big tire came right at my window and it almost just came through the window but it dropped down and hit the front end and they were on the side of the road but it's at the very moment I'm convinced that mama pray I mean I don't know what prompted her but thank God she was listening yes yes so that saved my kid's life yeah hearing the voice of God Karen what about you how I know you've had to hear the voice of the Lord how many times real quick I'm just the most recent that comes to my mind this just a few weeks ago I was on top of prayer Mountain praying at my house and I am seeking Lord about a situation a lot of pressure involved the Lord led me to the book of Gideon I am reading this book and I read where because I'm saying Lord give me a sign give me a word I need a sign from you of an answer he shows me where he tells get in if you need confirmation if you're still concerned about fighting the middie nights go into the camp tonight he goes into the camp and he hears the enemy talking about a dream they had so I'm like God he didn't get a burning bush or anything major he just had a simple dream so it God give me a dream a good dream because I've been having bad dreams give me a good dream so I think I'm gonna have my kids come together tonight and pray for a dream we'll talk about it tomorrow I'm driving home on my little golf cart I decide to whiz in to my mom's house this is just a few days ago and check on her I walked in the house mom I said mom she says I'm back here I walked in and she said first thing out of her mouth I had a dream last night she said it was a good dream and she said there was a sign a big sign with a chair under it and someone said to me come sit in this chair and she said Karen the sign said peace peace and that was my work let's talk a little bit the levels of hearing God you talked about I'm going to name them off and you I know we can't get to all of them but you say everyone right motivational gift gifts of the Holy Spirit and ascension gifts talk a little bit about that a little bit about everyone can hear from God the Ephesians 4:14 31 you can all prophesy in order to prophesy you have to hear from God revelation 19:10 the testimony of Jesus as a spirit of prophecy so on one hand Jesus fulfilled prophesying on the other hand at the moment you accept Jesus into your heart there's a prophet ik revelation that can come to you that you can hear the mind of God about various things that God wants you to do so that's that's the the common grace of prophecy I would call that then there's then what many of you called the Ascension aren't sorry the motivational gifts Romans 12 that you can prop say according to the proportion of faith that you have so if you have that level of faith you'll you'll this type of gift is ones that typically investigate what is gog and magog what is iike 38 39 was it had to do with revelation 14 what does it have to do with revelation 11 and Daniel 9 and 12 so in time events and so you'll be interested in that type of thing then there's the gifts of the holy spirit 1st Corinthians 12 and 14 which is given by the Holy Spirit and it is two is predictive in nature it may involve other revelation gifts that are included in the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit but it will tell you things to come as the John 16:13 when he the Holy Spirit has come he will lead and guide you into all truth he was take what I haven't show it to you and he will show you things to come then there's the Ascension gifts many people call them the prophet ik office or prophetic ministry but prophetic office really isn't in scripture we kind of use that as a defining some word of definition but it's really an ascension gift of Jesus whereas the gifts of the Holy Spirit are given by the Holy Spirit the ascension gifts are given by the Lord and it's my belief or my conviction that you need to have some manifestation of the Lord in your life or some angelic visitation to Commission you into that arena you all of those gifts basically you can be called then you're trained and then you're commissioned so just because you're called into a gift doesn't mean you're going to make it many are called few are chosen jesus said so you can have a gift and never make make the commissioning end of it you can have a gift and never pay for pay the price of brokenness too bright the price of contrition the price the price of integrity all that every single gift you have those are the hallmarks of maturity and before you're going to be commissioned the in any of those level of gifting the calling is really quick the training is really long and hard and the commissioning is glorious but it's also quick right you know one of the things you said before in talking about that there are individuals that have prophetic gifting but explain that again because I always loved it though your whole satellite explanation of that well yeah it kind of defines a difference between a prophet in the psychic is that God gives gifts endure without repentance even he gave gifts to Satan but they're without repentance hey God removed his authority from him when he fell because Authority is proximity centric but he didn't remove his power from him he still has power we have greater power because Authority Trump's power right so we have greater power than he does through Jesus Christ exactly but the the gifts that are that are given the the Lord wants us to to know that we didn't have anything to do with that gift that's all that's all comes from him it's not a reward it all also he wants us to understand that he may give us the gift but he doesn't always talk to us or there comes a point for example with Jeremiah he was given a gift before he was conceived and I'm not sure what all that means I mean I got an idea but there's a lot of ideas regarding it but he was probably John Steve John the Baptist certainly by the time he's in his mother's womb when Lizabeth met Mary given this gift before the born and so they had a choice as they were growing up do I serve God do I not serve God do I use this for God do I not use this for God right the God didn't create a zombie a zombie prophet he they had choices to make yeah so along the line they had those choices I think in fact I know there are many people in the psychic world who were given a gift by God that choose not to use that gift now God does not give them the prophecy he just gave them the gift if it's like the satellite dish you get the satellite dish but tune it into a different satellite so you have God's satellite over here but then there's an info network over here so you go from one when God quit sending a signal you moved to a different satellite and so a lot of the people he gave them original gift but because it did not follow him he stopped sending the signal the drive in them to find an answer for the for the vacuum of Revelation that they have drove them to a different satellite so they'll get stuff from a different satellite but it's not revelation but more familiar spirits had to be familiar spirits make it look like revelation yeah but it's all knowledge right so they may have that that gifting right but if they're not using that gifting in line with the Holy Spirit in the Word of God then the signals blog is basically yeah it's kind of like yeah it's kind of like Jezebel the Jezebel God said I in Revelation 2 I gave her time to repent but she would not so God God will let you use your gift wrong I mean he'll chasing you he will correct you he would discipline you he would convict you but at some point if you don't listen to him he stops and stop sinning the signal let me ask you this question can people have that gifting from from God and use it for a season hearing from God and then it get turned off and they start relying on their own flesh in another satellite sure because the pressure that comes upon you you build you build your whole ministry around something or you build your life around something and it quits you've either gotta quit doing what you're doing and go to flipping hamburgers or you've got to to to make up something and by the time the time you stop the time God removes your gift from you you're so seared you you don't even think about about anything you think my mind is God's mind so I'll just say this yeah so what are the signs that you've seen where someone was used prophetically but along the way they got off track and you you can tell that it's a lot of their carnality and their flesh and not God but at one time you would seem God use them greatly what what are the kind of the characteristics and traits that you see in that individual that let you know wow this this person may not be on track right now there's three of them this is something you have to guard yourself on we talked about that we do every day I'm like my those that are mentoring me talk about that John Sanford RT Kindle others will they address those issues with me my board addresses those issues with me I mean your your I'm thrilled that I have men who are concerned with that issue and abilities can't afford it yes one of the issues that you'll notice really quickly is lack a lack of clarity in the word they won't they won't spend time and this than this Bible and so they don't talk about the Bible very much they don't talk about what their bread they don't talk about what they learned I've read this Bible for decades and I'm learning something new every single every single day and I teach my staff about things like learning new every single day so one that's one sign the second another sign is like of intimacy with God they don't have the language of endearment to God so you listen to them and God doesn't say they're not using language you know when a husband and wife love each other you can feel the endearing terms that they use you don't speak of God with endearment the third thing that I've noticed is that they don't have current events happening in their lives they always talk about well fifty years ago this happened to me and and it's not bad that you talk about fifty years ago because Elijah I mean Ezekiel did that for four decades he talked about what happened to him at the brook but he also had ongoing experiences with the God so you don't have ongoing experiences so lack of bentos lack of intimacy lack of knowledge at word lack of endearing terms says I don't have a current deep relationship with him and therefore you end up becoming a Matthew seven prophet which is which is didn't I prophesy in your name cast out devils name and I heal in your name what you anchor for me I never knew you what about anger anger tends to be a result of that because what they end up doing is trying to make things happen in their own flesh and they build a reputation that they're trained to protect so now they get angry when things don't turn out the way that they want I still get angry at those near them they'll get angry at anybody who chastises them or corrects that our question to them questions them the directs damageable right yeah that's very interesting anything you want to ask on that that's a loaded and that's incredible yeah and don't you think that the fruit of the Spirit should surround their lives yes your delicious pleasures 5:22 what about when it's a critical spirit that's around it very very critical spirit no one is as terse or caustic as a prophetic voice out of faith it's good no one it is because they what they end up doing is they end up using their gift to focus on flaws and they make a scratch seem like it's the Grand Canyon they make they focus on miners and make it a major and they focus on majors and make the minors and they turn littlest things into huge issues and so they and they start focusing on the sin and another person's life because they have so focused on the sin in their own life so becomes exposed right so this is something that those who have this calling and this gifting they have to really guard against because it has done more damage to the body of Christ to come in the name of God and to be angry and to say hurtful things and then at the end of the day if their question to say well I'm a prophet of God this is just who I am I'm just going to say what God wants me to say and it but it's not you know it's not helping anyone it's actually hurting people and hurting individual that doesn't sound like the heart of God to me no and I challenge them to find one prophetic voice in the scripture that was like that all the people there's like this this urban legend of prophetic people that says what prophets are always this this and this and Olivet prophecy can be black-and-white sometimes but their black and white with love right oh that's all cons no that's so important this whole issue of love when when Paul wrote I show you a more excellent way this issue of loves is we have got to get back to profiting people or whoever hears from God whatever level you hear from God you need to hear from God with love because if God is love then when he speaks we need to have that permeate what we do so there's kindness gentleness but all the fruit of the Holy Spirit is everything that Galatians 5:23 22 I tell young young people that I mentor I said don't you tell me your spiritual until I say the fruit of the Spirit coming from you yes to the degree of your fruit I know your spiritual yes you know there was a young man that you and I will remain nameless for you and I spoke to and wanted to help right bring some accountability yes and as it as it has played out he really doesn't want that and so he surrounded himself with yes people are very successful but at the end of the day it's it's just a it's risen an accident waiting to happen it's it's a catastrophe well Balaam had a gift to Balaam actually talked to God God spoke audibly to Balaam Balin ended up being corrupt because he didn't have people around him to help him hear the ways of Lord and he succumbed to greed and one of the first things that young prophetic voices will succumb to is greed if they're not careful I'll be the first fall man my goodness that is amazing well what is the difference between the gift of prophecy and then the ministry of a prophet okay so the gift of prophecy is is edification exhortation and comfort the ministry of the Prophet the Ascension gift of the Prophet will add two more things at maturity and this is where we really get we have to watch this issue and that is correction and direction where I've come to churches Lord will move above me and I spaghettification exhortation and comfort but to the leader I will come to leader says and you know when you did this two weeks ago that was that was not wise of you to do that and the Lord the Lord says this if you'll do this then he will do this and so you have to bring correction and direction the problem is young prophetic ministries which ascension gift level ministries or callings will try to exercise authority that God hasn't given them because they don't have the favour to exercise it so the end of becoming more like a policeman so they exercise their authority by position versus exercising their authority by favor policeman and I love policemen don't get me wrong but policeman in the church turned out to be Watchmen like in the Song of Solomon I got up to find my lover and the watchman beat me up yeah and so they tend to beat up the body of Christ yeah versus helping the body of Christ right that's that's so awesome we could see how fast is it huh can you believe it I'm like I want to hear more we're out of time I want to thank John Paul for joining us at the table for more information about his ministry you can visit him online at streams ministries.com and i also want to thank cindy karen miss Dodi and April for being part of the table today thank you for watching remember if there's an area in your life where you need to hear from the Lord then just open up your heart and God can speak directly to you can speak through his word he can speak through other Christian friends through your pastor at church I mean that's why it's important to be a part of local church but we also have prayer partners that are standing by as well ready to pray with you if you need someone to talk to you thank you so much thank you John Paul you promise you'll come back I will talk more about this day all right until next time bye bye for today this has been a day star television production

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Keywords: John Paul Jackson, Joni Lamb, Joni Table Talk, hearing God, prophecy, prophetic, Streams Ministries, spiritual gifts, gifts of the spirit

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Length: 28min 32sec (1712 seconds)

Published: Mon Dec 31 2012