Joe Rogan - Stories of Native American History

the Joe Rogan experience so are you digging doing this podcast are you kidding me on fire oh man I'm loving it I'm having fun well let's put it away I love doing it it's a royal pain in the ass the research your podcast much like Dan Carlin's is very different I always feel ashamed calling my podcast a podcast because it's just you sit down a talk but yours is like it's an audio lesson on history and in-depth audio lesson on like very extreme aspects of history yeah it gets and you know that part I enjoy because the storytelling part is also new but yeah spin a story make it exciting connect it with pop culture do something that's fun that's the part that I love is the month prior to that of just brutal research just calm being through boring historical book after boring historical books you find those little nuggets that are amazing yeah and then spin it into a narrative that's the part that gets a little old sometimes where you're like man I do I really need to read 200 hours of stuff for this one thing it's like that's a lot yeah I can only imagine that when you do that when you're going over combing over all these different history books and all these different papers written on various times do you are you like extracting chunks and like putting them in Microsoft Word and going over it and then like how did you form it well a question is kind of like do you form it as a script or how much of it so everything is completely written out no not exactly because otherwise then it sound like sound like you're a guy reading a thing that it doesn't sound right I just take super extensive notes kind of like if you are to give a lecture that you've never given you're not gonna sit down and read it but you are going to you know you have something to keep you on track to make sure it's like oh where am I going next okay great there's Ryan so it's as detailed as possible without turning it into a dry guy reading his page type of stuff yeah I mean history is such a [ __ ] awesome subject because people are crazy and throughout history people have done so many crazy things and it's just it's it's such a great thing to know like when you if you only had today like if we only had our current era and we're looking around how [ __ ] maniacal people are how crazy the world is we were like God how'd this happen how do we get here and then you just listen to your podcast and you go oh this shit's been going on forever yeah seriously this is the good in case you are all very good times and yes there's much to complain about yes it's much we can do better without a doubt ladies and gentlemen but this is as [ __ ] good as it's ever been by far yeah the human psyche is a very weird place because there's so much amazing stuff that human beings don't or just so much and then there's the amount of horror that can be unleashed throughout he that has been unleashed throughout history by people against other people it's just insane yeah what it's like when you go back and you you go over history what is the most confusing or disturbing era you know to me is not so much a particular period because the same patterns emerge a lot of the times in a different point in time is is more those moments you know when when mob mentality takes over because in the realities the average person is not I don't have the word viewer I think the average person is evil I don't think that I think the average person is weak which means that when in a conditions where everybody's pushing in one direction is very easy to jump on the bandwagon and in some cases then a very ordinary human being can do horrible actions you meet them for dinner and you think a pleasant person good enough but you put them in the wrong context and everything turns to [ __ ] I just did I just finished right now this two-part series that's probably the most disturbing and now I wanted what podcast about flowers and paths this because this one was heavy man I did this series on kind of compare and contrast on the Sangh Creek Massacre of the Cheyenne in Colorado in the 1860s and then me live in Vietnam in 1968 and actually split it because I had I did the Sand Creek and I had this guy Darrell Cooper was the murderer made podcast his enemies in podcaster and he Mila and I'm in the third episode we're gonna sit down and kind of chat what does this all mean about the human nature why do the reason why that particular story in those two stories interest me is because it's a brutal massacre of civilians but in both cases there are soldiers who refuse to participate or actually try to stop it they are not the majority they're a minority but they are there and they try so it's not just a story of people doing ugly stuff it's like what is that make one guy when older hey go shoot that three year old one guy goes yes sir and does it and the next guy goes no that's now we are screw you I'm not doing that that's what interests me is like the individual element of what make people in the exact same circumstances one person go down a really dark path and somebody else instead having the balls to say no that's not why I am that's not what we do with the Native American mask or what who was how many people were the ones that refused because he never hear about that oh you hear about it's their horrific actions of the soldiers yeah which was the motive but there was also like there was this one guy um that's a guy named Silas Sol he was talk about a guy with balls of fire on because the guy he and a couple of other officers refused to let the man under them because they were divided in different companies so their companies they say no are not participating in this this is just straight-up slaughter these guys are not even a real targets these are a bunch of civilians so they refused and then Silas all testified against his commander at the inquiry and and he was promptly murdered shortly after so it's like it's a crazy story but still to this day there are people from the Cheyenne tribe who every year they have a ceremony for Silas all because they said it not being for him a lot more of us would have died on that day and he did a really brave thing and paid a price for it so you know if you're looking for heroism you can do a lot worse don't look at this guy story cuz that guy was seriously you know stand up for his conviction and their most extreme circumstances so can tell that I admire that you have to be incredibly difficult to just imagine what those people were doing mean when you hear some of the accounts of the slaughters of Native Americans it's just terrifying that people can just look at someone and just decide that's not person or that's not us this is the other they've got to be eliminated so we're just gonna kill all these kids gonna kill all these women yeah and it happened all over the country I mean there's there's two things that happen to Native Americans one the big one is disease sure and was it on purpose there's this big myth that people put like they put smallpox and blankets and that's all [ __ ] right it's pretty much been proven that they didn't really understand right bacteria are diseases there's one story that's a possible it's not a proven thing doing because initially nobody understood bacteria knew yes or the first Andra plus years completely unintentional there was one tale about the French and Indian War where during a break the British are talking about it saying one of the commanders saying hey maybe we should give them some blankets from the smallpox hospital but you know while we do know that he suggested it we have no proof whatsoever that it was actually done so let's probably how the rumor got started right problem but in most cases what happen is just that the Europeans came over and just inadvertently introduced Native Americans diseases and 90% of them were wiped out yeah that's a crazy number if you really stop to think about it it's gone see there are probably the most dramatic demographic disaster in human history because you know I never before you had a situation where a whole continent was not exposed to a series of diseases and so of course there's no immunity the first time they're exposed like you know you don't need to even have smallpox you can sneeze in somebody and the next they have the village is dead you know yeah that's crazy it's just it's amazing that if a group of people just has not come in contact with something that other people come in contact with all the time and just god we've got a cold you'd be fine just have some chicken soup take a nap meanwhile these people are just dead that's probably off that's probably why aliens don't show up it's like those [ __ ] are dirty amazing show up they sneeze on us and we with our whole planet will die or maybe the opposite they know they'll kill us exactly maybe they have like some super advanced diseases that's the other possible yeah I guess it's just a immune system thing right if your immune systems not prepared for it it is there's a great book by a guy named Dan Flores well he wrote two but one of them actually I mean actually was a paper that he wrote about the Buffalo and he's saying that it's really interesting because he compares the initial encounters that European settlers had and European travelers had before the Native Americans were wiped out and they talked about how many animals were on the plains and they make it a direct account of it and then after the Europeans had come and 90% of the Native Americans have been wiped out that's when the Buffalo population increased goes through the roof and you're seeing these gigantic packs of million would be packs herds I guess of millions and millions of Buffalo and he say that's directly attributed to the lack of predators which means lack of Native Americans they were preying on these Buffalo of course it wasn't it interesting when they talked but when he talked about all of the people that were kidnapped by Native Americans that chose to live with them yep and then when they were taken back by the Americans by the settlers you know they were like [ __ ] this I'm going back I'm going back to the Native Americans and they went and live with them again but no one went the other way no which is really crazy something not flattering about the your American culture of the time yeah there's a great Benjamin Franklin quote I'm I'm gonna Berkshire because I only remember the beginning something about no European West tasted savage life and I'm basically go on to can bear to come back to leaving our settlements or something like that yeah I'm like yeah let's see something about it's fun yeah the way they're living they're camping right this is hunting and fishing every day and you go back and these [ __ ] are wearing powdered wigs and banging a wooden mallet on a table for everybody to pay attention [ __ ] off that's hilarious but that here you hear you that's what I beat about cultures right people sometime with that romanticize native cultures is like oh they're all you know hug trees and talking with the furry creatures of the forest and I'm like right well yes and no there are like in what you mention right if you are captured specially in the East one like French and Indian more stuff like they were going on if you are captured by Edwin in a native raid one of two things happen the good one is that they like you then they decide to adopt you and then you end up at a place in one of their dead family members like if they lost a brother or a father then you become that person for that so weird thing that they did it's very weird but but the thing is the adoption process was so thorough that they love you like you're the real deal and you end up feeling like you're part of this family and you know everything works out everything is great if they don't like you then they torture you to that over 3-day period and so it's these are the same people right they can be sweetest most awesome humans or really messed up same culture same individuals do you think that's just because people have evolved big dealing with tribal warfare and just we have to have that switch I think is because the thing that's interesting about natives is that it wasn't a racial thing they adopted anybody I didn't matter what skin color you have that they did not have a barrier to hmm but there is a big insider outsider you know if you're part of our tribe and you may become part of our tribe race doesn't matter you can become part of our tribe but once you're part of our tribe you are one of us but if you're not part of our tribe then you know the same rules do not apply to you you are the other you are an enemy you are mmm in that case that's when it gets really brutal yeah even with other Native Americans that's the thing that people need to really get in like we especially people that only have our peripheral understanding of Native American culture like the reason why Sioux are called sooths because that's a Native American word for enemy yep they call themselves the Lakota people right exactly so all the other Indians were like [ __ ] these crazy [ __ ] they're the enemy yeah thought they were just dominating yeah it's it's really fascinating when you consider that these people had these hunting grounds and they were trying to protect and one of the things that they found is that there are areas or wildlife thrived and the wildlife thrived in these like gray area that's because like this one area would be you know one Native American tribe and then their hunting grounds went to a specified distance you know obviously always in conflict but then past that was another Native American tribes but in the middle that's where you'd find all the [ __ ] animals of course is Italy I get it nobody finds me or they are worried about killing each other in your zone so now it's crazy that they figure that out [Applause]

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Length: 13min 56sec (836 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 14 2018