Joe Rogan - Martial Arts vs. Martial Skills

the Joe Rogan experience I think there's a balance to doing things and it's highlighted by what you just said what you've just said there's a balance and it's a lot of what we were talking about earlier about Joel Jamison versus Lois Simmons versus like someone was like super technical versus someone who's just a [ __ ] mad dog and just wants you to just go out and do it and don't be a [ __ ] mm-hmm your your mindset that allowed you to take that fight with no training and then take another fight after that with no training and then take another fight out that would notate it just this mindset of [ __ ] it let's just do this mm-hmm there's a balance between that and then you realizing okay I got to really learn how to do this if I'm gonna really be a fighter I'm gonna really be a really defined myself and I really go out and make a mark I gotta learn what the [ __ ] I'm doing exactly there's both things there but that's that balance like you need both things you know I mean this is you have to have a certain amount of [ __ ] it in you you know you have to have a certain amount an MMA a sport it always seemed to me to be it's too it's too defining it's are too uh it's it's too limited it's not fighting is more than a sport it's an expression of what you're capable of absolutely it's you're who you are as a human and that's where one distinction I've made over the years is the difference between martial skills and martial arts everything everybody always calls everything and copses it into a martial art and when we go to the gym and we're training arm bars do 100 arm bars that's not art that's not your expression of your body in a combat scenario that's that's a martial skill now when we go in competition now we're expressing our art right and I think this is an important distinction to be made I think it's something that I get so tired of hearing you know I trained martial arts and you know I trained martial skills and then I express my art that's a very interesting way of putting it how many years after you initially started seriously training were you on The Ultimate Fighter four or five I remember when you won the ultimate fighter and they stole your chew somebody [ __ ] everybody members hit I remember that because I remember like there's some dudes that there's some guys that play tough guy there's some guys that put on a show and puff up their chest and say some [ __ ] that they might not necessarily mean and then there's some guys that say some [ __ ] and you go oh this dudes [ __ ] serious [Laughter] [ __ ] with your kid with you chew I remember watching that go this [ __ ] serious like Matt Browns not a joker and then when you fought Matt Arroyo that was a another example of it I'm like this skill-wise Mike matter Roy was a very talented guy and still is good jujitsu guy good fighter but there was something that was a battle of minds angry your mind and I don't know if you knew that I fought him before that too yeah I do yeah but the first time I thought and this is why it was such a no-brainer to say to fight I fought him the first time on 24 hours notice so I wasn't even I wasn't training or I was training a girl and she was going to Florida it's a fight and when I got there we're driving to the weigh-ins and the promoter I heard him talking on the phone and he goes and I heard him say you know how we don't have an opponent for him so I said hey you know what do you need an opponent for and he's like well this guy matter royale you know 170 and I said dude I'll fight like how much will you pay me like I have 400 500 bucks I was like dude I pay my rent [ __ ] yeah I'll do it and yes and I said you know I can't make weight because I got like one hour and you know he said it's cool and fought him on 24 hours notice and beat him so he wanted Redemption for that yeah that fight was in it you one of the things about like watching you fight as someone who's seen a lot of people fight there's there's moments in exchanges where after the exchange a guy will try to take a break or a girl try to catch his breath or move pace negatory break yeah there's little breaks and then there's guys who recognize those breaks and push in mm-hmm you're a guy who pushes in absolutely when there's a break you're like oh no [ __ ] there's no breaks here there's no breaks here and you just get on dudes and it makes things very intense ya know that's the thing about all your fights they're very intense you know there's a there's a certain level of violence that you bring into the Octagon that someone has to be prepared for you know and there's some guys that are prepared for it and makes for amazing fights like your fight with Robbie Lawler holy [ __ ] was that a crazy fight yeah you know and then there's guys who just they just can't keep the pace they just can't keep that then keeping you off of them yeah and I think what my goal as a martial artist as a fighter marshal you know whatever you would call combat guy you know I get my skills up to the point where matches your mind where it matches the mind yeah crazy yeah I mean a lot of guys struggle the other way yeah and I think one of the the things that I talk about a lot that you see I don't think that I was necessarily born this way this is where I think a lot of people get confused I mean I was certainly born with an inclination towards fighting I wouldn't be where I'm at without that but you know I work a lot on my mind I do a lot of stuff I've always been obsessed with martial arts and in combat as a whole and I hear other people say they're obsessed like Conor even made it really famous when he started saying it right I think my obsession goes far far beyond what anybody's even even close to I don't think they're their definition of obsession even even its comparable to mine at all I mean I'm far more obsessed I've read probably I got a library of sports psychology books of strength conditioning books of martial arts books all this stuff I mean it's literally on my mind 25-day but one of the things I really focus on is the the sports psychology part and I think that is why it's expressed that way in the fight and you hear a lot of people they'll say you how have you heard like men you know my mind is already strong like I ain't scared when I walk in there or stupid [ __ ] like that and yeah and I always say you know do you think Michael Jordan stop packs and layups do you think Jordan burrows stopped packs in double legs do you think that Arnold Schwarzenegger stopped doing bicep curls because it's good doesn't mean that you just got proved upon yeah it can be improved upon and you don't stop so and I think the mind is one of those things that can always be better like we're not tapping into I mean what do we time it's like 10% of our brains that's all best yeah that's yeah that's [ __ ] you know they used to think that these to think that that's something they say but the reality is your brain has a bunch of different quadrants for all sorts of different functions okay so when you know you're utilizing a certain portion of your brain that's the portion your brain that's responsible for those actions okay yeah it's not either way our minds are certainly far more unlimited and far more potential than we're tapping into I think your mind is a lot like your body and it performs and it does what you ask of it and if you just are a lazy [ __ ] it doesn't do anything but sit around and watch TV and you don't ever challenge your mind I think your mind is weak in an atrophies absolutely yeah now when you say that you you have all these books and you say that you work on your mind like do you have a daily practice that you do do you meditate meditate you know daily is sort of a I hate saying I do it daily because you know I skip days and and I'm gonna have three kids which you know how that goes yeah yeah it's very but at the same time I try to use everything as an opportunity to practice on my mind to write how you do anything is how you do everything right right and so I think you know we can use opportunities all the time and but yes I do meditate I do tons of visualization I have my strength conditioning coach I work with now he's he's also got a degree in sports psychology so we integrated a lot of that in the training itself for instance like doing we do these 200 yard Sprint's on the forced treadmill they're just miserable that I mean by time you're done you just don't have anything left it's a complete drain and then as soon as you're done like if staying at attention right I have to stay in you know like a military attention straight up and down and not let the the concept of your body shutting down affect your ability to maintain a posture right and that's just a mental thing 100% right is it solely mental that's just one example we do a million things like that but yeah I do I do tons and tons of visualization which is a consistent marker of high performers a consistent thing that high performers do I think this is a well known I have a mental coach specifically that kind of holds me accountable for a lot of the things you know mean him we talk a lot back and forth about the different the different ways to create habits I think that's probably the number one thing is creating habits right you know but you know you holds me accountable for everything and I think that's probably the biggest key is just being held accountable for every action that you do have you ever used a sensory deprivation tank absolutely my research has one beautiful yeah I love it then I go in about 45 to an hour do you work on [ __ ] in there do you think about techniques you know I don't really I used that as a time so I've I tried to practice this for meditation that I you know I can't remember the name of it this dude kishna Maru you've heard of him Krishna Mario I don't know why it's not coming to my head right now but he was one of Bruce Lee's guys he's an Indian meditation guy and everything in his form of meditation was to completely clear your mind which is I guess like is actually impossible right like you there's no way to just have no thought at all but that's sort of what I try to strive for is go literally no mind at all what I do is think about only my breath that's it I couldn't trade on my breathing in and out and there's a bunch of other [ __ ] that gets in there but eventually I can kind of overpower it and just think only about breathing in and only that's what I am so that's what I do too to get to that state hmm right to get to a state where I can release everything mm-hmm but at that point once up mum relaxed then I go for the no mind which again is impossible but my personal system of visualization or relaxation is I see the thoughts as clouds and that my mind is a sky or space so you know my mind becomes this gigantic entity and the thoughts are just clouds that pass by but again when I start thinking about things like at now you're not in the know mind if you start thinking about your breath you're not in the know mind and I want to get as close to that as possible because in a fight in a combat situation I want no mind right that's the that's the way that Musashi talks about right yeah and that's that's Musashi right there oh [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah this was a ring the play on Musashi [Applause]

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Length: 12min 5sec (725 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 10 2018