Joe Rogan - Is John Oliver Misleading?

the Joe Rogan experience right because if I hate doing cable news hits because I have two minutes to to basically deduce a complex issue that we've been debating for decades almost centuries it's the worst and it's also people talking over each other and there's one you know they have two boxes one guy here one guy there usually you're not even in the same room together and you're talking through those earpieces is a delay those things are a disaster horrible is one of the worst ways to communicate which is why I tried to establish my platform with my show noir mm-hmm I tried to have it as a platform that's open to people to come on hey look you want to come on and discuss this issue by all means come to it have you had anyone that's that's like really strict anti gone yeah on yeah I had I'd had an entire season so what we did in the season I think it was two seasons ago we brought on I was a young lady and a guy from but he came on the show they were anti and so what we did was he had a roundtable discussion at the end of every episode of my show and we bring up a specific topic and we discuss it and so then basically was like two against one essentially mm-hmm until they would talk to me about what their thoughts on on what we talked about in the show or a particular gun control issue and we had that conversation had an individual I sit down with her as well and we talked about it and then took her to the shooting range to shoot for the first hmm you know but that's going to be overlooked right they know they ignore it well they probably aren't even aware of it cuz I wasn't aware of it I'm not aware of it he's saying people who need to be aware but oh we're okay because like for instance our brains point up in makes me come across as if like I feel some type of way because he didn't inch in me but it's not really that it just speaks volumes to what I've been pointing at for the longest they nor rational discourse John Oliver did a twenty minute monologue on NRA TV about NRA TV right 20 minutes mm-hmm you know how long 20 minutes all that's pretty long yeah he didn't mention me once he didn't mention my shot I have three shows on an air ATV three shows and I had the second longer longest-running show on in hi TV he didn't mention me once the level of detail that they went into within that monologue lets me know they watched everything on that platform okay they watched it all and why do you think he left you out because didn't fit the narrative right also because he is a progressive guy with glasses who's white and you really shouldn't you really shouldn't say anything negative about black people how so he's like but he's not white though he's a minority just like me what is he I don't know he's like I don't know he's white what is he then white if he's not white I'm not white Irish Irish yeah am i white if I'm not what the [ __ ] is boss on the street you are wasn't my grandpa you weren't white yeah my grandparents came over that guy's way to start over why he's white like paper is it yeah oh [ __ ] I'm wrong well there you go um what did you think he was I don't know I never thought infused with the Daily Show guy I probably am Trevor Noah you know that's rabbi no but I know about Trevor you know right yeah he's white his [ __ ] he's a white Englishman man I'm racist but for a guide like that guys like that have they've here's the thing about progressives and I like John oh I'm not I'm not negative against John doing a show I have I had this perspective up until this point so I'm gonna shut off I'm gonna shut off my belief system and listen to you and listen to what you're about to say because I hadn't thought about this because I thought he wasn't white to his entire time so yeah so now white his [ __ ] um I mean it might not even Bob what be why he did it he might have found the worst examples and maybe you were too reasonable and it doesn't fit the narrative of being funny I mean his show although his show has points and he makes these very you know these clear conclusions and you know but it's funny it's a funny show yeah the whole thing behind it is there any any girl who's dated me knows like I have enough episodes on on on that platform you could find some stuff to make fun of me back well I'm sure they could but I don't think that's the kind of thing they're trying to make fun of like individual personalities that say stupid [ __ ] I think what they're trying to do is point out the disingenuous narrative from the NRA while ignoring the disingenuous narrative from the anti-gun advocates okay I could possibly see that I'm trying to I'm trying to be fair and reasonable because my mind wants to go now he saw he realized that by mentioning me right it's gonna it's going to pique curiosity with the audience in which he's trying to so you think we weren't too reasonable and too logical and that since you're not like this redneck hee haw type character that like to talk about you it doesn't fit their narrative so let's just ignore him yeah because that's a trade on the dummies think about it like bunnies are still real though right dummies on all sides that's true that's true but it's pretty easy to find like pro-gun dummies you can find quite a few of them I can pretty easy to find dummies on other side as well sure yeah but you wouldn't be looking if you were on that side right if you're on the anti-gun side you're looking for Pro gum dummies pro gun dummies yeah pro gun dummies are easy to find they are right there's plenty of them right now you can go [ __ ] find them on Instagram and Twitter and there's there's dummies all over the world you see here's the thing though the thing about what John Oliver does and this the thing this is the kind of disingenuous nature of satire okay political satire it I call it the the the comedian plausible deniability card right okay so you can make a joke about something and then say oh it has no influence cuz it's just a joke it's not but he's not saying that is he he's not saying it doesn't have an influence what exactly he understands the influence at wheels but he's pretty saying but he can he can always swipe the plausible deniability card and say well no I wasn't making an actual political statement like I know that there are reasonable people on the other side no you're pushing a narrative that has been pushed for decades about an organization that fights for the Second Amendment the same the same the same narrative that's being pushed by groups of people who say the only thing standing in their way of more gun control is the NRA so what do you do so where does he get his power from because they talk out of both sides of the mouth they don't get the power from there but they're uh sorry they don't use a power by their membership right right so what do you do you do you best to stifle that membership you make it seem as unattractive as possible and then you also your audience is already largely uneducated on the issue right and there's already this perceived notion at the NRA is this a bunch of racist white rednecks right so then what do you do to further that narrative you talk about their platform and then you pull out all of those things that further drive that narrative while ignoring the most popular figure on the platform which is you which is me and and so who so happens to be black so what does that say it tells me that this is that it was deliberate uh I really do want to agree with you and say you know what he's white he didn't want to be seen as attacking the black guy so more than so I think there's a little of that but I think there's also he's doing a show let me let me explain how a show works he's got a team of writers there's a ton of people back there they are just trying to be funny they're trying to make points for sure but they're trying to find stupid [ __ ] that they could mock yeah and why would they concentrate on the guy who makes sense if they looking for stupid [ __ ] they can mark they're not trying to make a balance to reasonable argument like maybe we would do right here right now yeah what they're doing is doing a condensed edited down very smooth polished television show with that rant has been dissected and gone over by a team of writers and they have video that corresponds to it and photographs that they shoot go to and and they have clips that they show and they mock the clips it's a it's a comedy show all right do you have a point but it's a comedy show absolutely that's why they didn't go after you is because maybe you're a lawyer maybe you're articulate maybe you is because you're young and black and they just don't feel like it's a smart thing to do but it's because they're making a show I agree with you now let me tell you why my panties aren't a ruffle about it okay it's because I understand the influence of that show when people make political decisions but don't you think it's preaching to the choir that show what I mean that won't that show yeah John Oliver show I think if I had to guess how many people who are watching that show are left-wing leaning Democratic leaning liberal leaning I would say it's a giant percentage here's the problem though the number of people who come to me and say I don't I don't deal with the NRA because they're racist and they're a bunch of white rednecks who says that oh god I get all hung the where's the that they point to they just assumed more racist yeah that's that that's just it yeah cuz in their into in their attempts just make a show right I agree with you wholeheartedly I absolutely agree with you but we can't undermine how influential that show is at crafting people's thoughts about particular issues and ideologies within this country right right and so I stand back and I'm like man this is dangerous because to me the Second Amendment is incredibly important right I don't you know the funny thing is I thought the monologue was hilarious the mom's not funny dude mama my life is hilarious I'll give him the modeling monologue is funny isn't he funny dude because he said that funny he was a funny dude during that swim in male consistency consistency you give me some consistency I'll let you drop the ball a couple times here and there that's fine but as far as consistency he's tough job no John Oliver guy he's got a tough job I think it's an I think it's incredibly tough I think I think comedians don't get enough credit I'm not sure he's even a real comedian stand-up does John Oliver that is that is that the barometer for being with me comedian stand up for us okay yeah there's it's a big big difference you [Applause]

Channel: JRE Clips

Views: 3,287,107

Rating: 3.3248534 out of 5

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Length: 10min 15sec (615 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 21 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/Rpilla001]

He's not white. For fuck sake, he's pasty. It's one level of white above white.

[u/Jalil29]

Does it even take 30 seconds to realize John is most probably white using only audio? Not to mention watching it

[u/chente76]

Sounds like someone’s butt hurt because they weren’t mentioned on the John Oliver segment

[u/heyitsawizard]

I like how he criticizes people uneducated on a subject, then proceeds to criticize a show he’s obviously never watched.

[u/saevuswinds]

1:53 is when it starts for people interested, the noir comment that he’s a minority is around 2:25

[u/GoldCoaster4216]

Noir must have watched John's NRA TV monologue on night mode, hence the confusion. Such a simple explanation!

[u/Rasalom]

Sorry, this level of dumb humble (dumble?) comedy is beyond me.

How did you just criticize a show for engrossing themselves in your product and ignoring it to fit a narrative... And then completely expose you haven't even done the barest research to know their race. Wow.

[u/MattTheSmithers]

Side note, John needs to do a segment on Joe Rogan and the way he has made his podcast into a one stop shop for misinformation and conspiracy theories.

[u/Rasalom]

I mean, he's right. Birds don't have races.