Joe Rogan - How Tyson Fury Bounced Back From Depression & Addiction

you're an interesting story man because not just because your personality but because you're you've come back from mental illness and you're very very open about it yeah you know I think that's it's that's a very unique thing where I remember when you when you beat Klitschko and won the title and then you kind of went off the rails and I thought you were just partying you know when when I heard about it I thought wow I made a shitload of money became the heavyweight champion all the pressure in the press and all the craziness but it was more than that it was more it started off like I'd suffered with mental health problems my whole life but I didn't know what it was because I never had no education on the mother it wasn't till after the Klitschko fight a very massive high then I had two other even worse a low lowest low that anyone could ever have I'd wake up and I think why did I wake up this morning this is coming from a man who had everything money fame glory titles a wife a family kids everything but I felt as if I had nothing I felt there was an empty gaping hole that was just filled with gloom and doom and it just was one bad thing happened to me after another within seven days the IBF stripped me of their title because I couldn't defend against koskoff he was a nobody because I had a rematch clause for falada me but the IBF wasn't expecting me to beat Vladimir so they took that clause in there anyway thinking Vladimir is gonna win able to defend against glass cockpit because I warned they they stripped me of the belt we said none of my reason within seven days of the fight yeah that's insane yeah how can they require you to fight within seven you know they didn't but they required me to go into negotiations you didn't so just not going into negotiations to sign they stripped you within seven days yeah well they knew I couldn't go into negotiations because there re much closed so I was stuck in between a rock and a hard place and that's what happened that was one belt gone and then my team and the Klitschkos team were carrying on about where the flight was gonna be was gonna be on a cruise ship in Dubai it was gonna be here was gonna be there Times was dragging on a cruise ship a cruise ship yeah there was some man or a billionaire wanted to make this fight an exclusive fight for him and his buddies no yeah come on seriously this fight was heading for a cruise ship that [ __ ] oil money man there's some money for this and if they can afford it do it that's what I say that would have been the most hilarious scenario ever for a world heavyweight title fight a bunch of Arab billionaires on a cruise ship Wow so they strip you of the IBF belt you're going to negotiate with Klitschko for the rematch and the rematch never happened very much didn't happen initially because I went over on my uncle in training I was in Holland training for the rematch and I was running up on heavy terrain and I went over from ankle sprain my uncle quite badly so we had to postpone the fight but but the timer was off like say three months getting his ankle right and all up I just I just didn't want to do any morphine army I didn't have the desire the fire wasn't burning no longer to fight and our suffering with depression the whole time even in training come before I sprained my ankle I was depressed as the press could be on a daily basis and I think why am I feeling like this I don't have no reason to feel like it some people will say oh well attention-seeking or whatever but unless you've experienced what I'm saying it's still of impossible to understand where have been aware I've come from and he just went from bad to worse I hit the drink heavily on a daily basis I hit the drugs I was out all night partying with women overnight and not coming home and you know I didn't care about boxing I didn't care about living I just wanted to die I was gonna have a good time doing it while I was doing it I used to drink and take drugs to get away from their depression because when I was drunk or high then I wouldn't I wouldn't think about being depressed for fall about being a boxing champion or I'm a feel great but as we know when the drink wears off it only leaves you with a bad hangover and feeling even more depressed for someone who suffers with mental health the worst thing we can do to escape it is take drugs or alcohol but yeah that's the most common approach that's the common approach because people we don't know is it's not spoke about and this is why I wanna spread the word on mental health so when other people are in this position in the future they know where to go and they know what to do because there's a blueprint well kudos to you for doing that because so so few people have the courage to talk about their struggles when they go through that because it seems like a weakness yeah you know it's it's very powerful that you're willing to do that and just be open and honest about it there's a few people out there that are doing that now you know our friend Mauro Ranallo he's gone through some some serious mental health issues and he's very open about it and talks about it quite a bit now when you were training for the first Klitschko fight for the fight rather did you have it then not really no but I was set focused on what I wanted to do and that was beat Vladimir Klitschko and I believe when you've got a goal in mind or from being a child all your life and you do that then I was like I was lost I was almost like I didn't have anything more to do me life although I could have carried on undefended the belts and whatever I wasn't really interested in doing that I'd beat the man I'd always wanted to do because when I was an amateur boxer I used to watch Vladimir Klitschko on TV as a world heavyweight champion and I always aimed he was my target to beat I want to finally beat him I was like climbing the Everest I didn't have anything more to prove and the fire was dead there was no fire I was forcing myself to fight and I always said I didn't want to be one of those people who just fought for money because there's plenty of people with money in the world plenty of them but who knows him and the reasons for me fighting it's not for money or or for belts or glory a fight because I don't know anything else I've always been a fighter from being born to be in 30 years old now it's all I love to do or don't have any of a passion I've locked the Lord knows I've locked and if I had anything else that was go to her I could do I'd be doing it I just I tried retirement I was 27 I retired under the second man in boxing heavyweight history to retire on beaten as a world champion like Rocky Marciano before me but it wasn't enough I was like I am lost without this fight game I tried golfing I tried clay pigeon shoe I tried 4x4 in I tried going to strip clubs bars restaurants everything and he was just like I had this emptiness inside where I just wanted to fight well in comparison to what you've accomplished everything else has to seem pretty dull I mean into you step into the ring with Vladimir Klitschko who was widely considered to be one of the greatest heavyweights ever and you box his face off I mean that was a beautiful performance it was and shut him down it was weird it was weird to watch him it's like there was moments in that fight where he just he just looked like he didn't know what to do with you I'm gonna see you again on December the 1st like I said to Vladimir I said the same thing to Deontay Wilder you fought the Americans you fought the Mexicans you fought the Europeans but you ain't never fought the gypsy king before I said it straight to Vladimir I said you're looking at King I said if you ever for King before he said no I simply fight him on now and I said you're gonna lose too want well he's lost before but he's lost because he got clipped and hurt and stopped and I was very impressed with him actually in the Anthony Joshua fight because he came back from getting badly hurt and almost put Joshua away but the fight with you is different because you just how boxed him and he was known as the guy who would box and hold jab and hold I mean he was one of the most boring heavyweights of all time fantastically successful but from a spectator point of view he watched some of his fights like Jesus Christ he would jab you grab you jab you grab you I mean that was his thing right hand grab you it worked at 25 title defenses I mean it was very successful but that [ __ ] didn't work with you it didn't for the first time in his whole career he was fighting somebody who was not just bigger than him but more athletic who could move more yeah someone he wasn't just looking for one lucky punch I knew going into the flooding me a fight there everybody all the rest of the opponents and 25 men before me but all when in trying to do the same thing try to knock him out and he's got he's got something of a weird defense where he puts both arms out in front of him and it's almost very awkward to London not chin were big punchers so I thought I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna make that mistake I'm gonna well box him I don't ever all me teams this is not a good idea to Germany to try and outbox a super champion and try and win on the cards are you crazy I said yes I said but if it wasn't crazy I won't be great and I went over there now boxed him I'm nobody nobody apart from me brother or me Father Ford I could do it you know even people who were close to me and camp they were like they were very unsure of what was gonna happen and maybe me I always had that little smile on my face cuz I believed it I believed I could always be funny man Klitschko I even told Vandermeer years before when I were 22 I said I'll beat you one day Emanuel Steward told him to God rest his soul he said Tyson Fury is the heir to the throne he said when his time is ready he will beat you straight to him probably I hate you duck he hated emmanuel talking about me like that but he done it Eve away well I'm sure it was good fire under him during training as well now you you were focused for that fight you were you were prepared and afterwards was it just the realization that you would accomplish this incredible goal that said in the Depression was it you didn't know what to do next or was it just that your focus was now no longer on this unattainable you know like in almost insurmountable obstacle in front of you becoming the heavyweight champion of the world all sudden you did it then the depression kicks in yeah my conditioning trying to Christian he said to me before the college go fight he said what will you do after you win I said probably be depressed for a long time he said what I said truthfully I was almost expecting it and I didn't think I'd ever box again even the day after the Klitschkos fight Sky Sports interviewed me that the UK broadcaster who put it on and he said what's next for Tyson Fury I said I'll probably never box again I knew I said to me dad and me brothers before the fight a week before the fight I said win lose or draw I said this is probably gonna be my last fight because I knew the fire was going I didn't have that hunger anymore I had the hunger to beat Vladimir Klitschko but not to carry on and continue and I said I didn't want it to be about money or financial gain I wanted to be the best of my time beat the best man and that's what I did and I was a man of me word I didn't box again until two and a half year later I decided to make a comeback because I was sitting here 400 pounds I'd drug addict an alcoholic by the way never took a drug in my life until I got to 27 really never not smoked weed not not nothing and what drugs what were the drugs of choice once you won the title cocaine was a usual one and that was it really cocaine and alcohol it's like roller coaster AZ drug drug and alcohol yeah but you know I look back on it now and I think what I changed that I wouldn't I'm not many people will think well this man's crazy for saying that on my radio show but I wouldn't change a thing because I know it was supposed to happen and I needed to be tested to see what type of character it was although I did all those mud things and I went from wall that time and I tried to commit suicide and I well I'll tell you what happened I like I said it was waking up when I didn't want to be alive I was making everybody's life a misery everybody was close to me was pushing away nobody could talk to me talk any sense into me at all and I'd go very very very low up times very low and I'd start thinking all these crazy thoughts and this that in the other and I was in Macau I bought a brand-new Ferrari convertible in the summer of 2016 and I was in the annals on the highway on this trip and the highway where I am I'm at the bottom of about a five mile strip there's a massive bridge that crosses the motorway and I knew that and I got the car up to 190 miles an hour I was headed towards a bridge and I didn't care what no one was sinking I didn't care about her to me family me me career people who friends anybody I didn't care I didn't care about nothing I just wanted to die so bad I give up on life and just as I was getting towards a bridge at 119 this Ferrari it a crushed like a coke can by the way I heard a voice say no don't do this Tyson think about your kids think about your family and your little boys and girls growing up with no father and everyone saying you're done was a weak man he left jizz he took the easy way out because he couldn't do anything about it and before I turned into the bridge I I pulled on the motor on I was shaking I could feel myself shaking and I pulled over and I was all nervous and didn't know what to do one was frightened and I was so afraid i'ma fall that day I'll never ever ever try or think about taking me on life ever again and I didn't I wanted got help from her to lead in psychiatrist doctor in the UK I'm a dad were not with me and she said to me dad she said can I have a word alone with you John he said Joe me doc told me what she said when he came out she said he is not to be trusted alone he's an imminent death risk that's the highest level of suicide risk that she'd ever assisted and she said without his faith he would have been dead a long time ago but she said faith alone anger and hold him because that's gonna break and once that goes he's done so I thought pop me dad's life terror as well because he was checking up on me all the time he wanted to be with me 24/7 he was even sleeping in my house with me a married man before kids I was a right state I just I just I I want it I just didn't want to live anymore and I had everything that man could want there wasn't nothing I didn't have but it meant nothing nothing meant and even I thought worthless I'm the longer it went on the the more it it hurt inside no morals and everybody everybody gave up on me before family for I was definitely gonna die and I was gonna kill myself and after that I tried I was thinking to myself you know what I need to get better on each I need to do something but every time I tried to go to the gym I don't know the voice saying nah this ain't for alls anymore I'm not gonna do this I didn't want to do I'd run I'd run 200 yards and pull up I won't even get a my living off can't be bothered I don't want to do this boxing is not for me I hate it box you're not once day in 2016 early 17 I wouldn't have done a boxing flight for this room full of diamonds no way I hated boxing I won't watch on the TV I won't read about it I hated boxing I've done it my whole life and I didn't want no part of it anymore um I was out drinking I didn't care give up taking drugs like I said and it come to a point was doing that for 18 months me life I was out 2017 Halloween I was a 400 pounds dressed up as a skeleton and I go to this fancy dress party in it I'm looking around then I'm thinking these are all young kids compared to me I'm 13 I feel like I was the oldest guy in there like 29 I was like what am I doing here is this what you want for your life and I thought yourself this is not me and no matter how many people told me before this where I was going wrong walls doing you need to act to your life you can only change your life if you want to change it and I left and everyone said are you going over Lee said yeah I left at 9 o'clock I went home and I got back home I didn't say anything to the Wofford it went straight upstairs into a dark room and I took bursts chief had skeleton suit off and I was sat there and I got me knees and I was praying and begging God to help me and at this point I'd never I've never begged or cried to God to help me before I prayed a lot all my life but I've never been in this physical state before I can feel tears running down my face me chest was wet with tears because I knew I couldn't do it on my own it was impossible for me because I tried and tried and tried and ended up back in the pub back drinking I almost accepted that that was gonna be my fate an alcoholic so I was on my knees in his bedroom after praying for about 10 minutes I got up and I felt the weight of the wall was lifted off my shoulders and for the first time in years I knew I was gonna make a comeback and I called my wife I said Paris parishes are bought she followed was drunk coming home from the pub I said Monday morning I start to regain mission to try and get the heavyweight championship of the world back she said yeah yeah yeah because before this every time I'd offer beer I'd come back and I'm gonna be the heavyweight champion of the world again because it was it was the alcohol talking so I was like the man who called wolf a thousand times on this this stupid career that I was living on the past thinking about years before glory days and after this prayer got up a said right this is gonna be she didn't believe me one second but even when I speak to her now she says that night you told me that she said I hear a difference in your voice something happened next day I phoned up Ben Davison and I said I don't want to go back down the old route with the same trainer same promote to same anything that said everything's got to change as it's gonna be a new Tyson Fury and we called it return of the Mack mission and also went out that morning after phoning Bannen or arranging everything I went out for a room in my sweat suit out our ambitions of running T miles I got about five minutes into the ramen stopped and I walked and while I was walking if I can't run I'm T fats 400 pounds before I'm gonna walk I'm gonna get out walk while I was walking I was flicking through on my phone on Instagram Anna sees this video of Deontay Wilder saying yeah Tyson Fury's finally done that because the week before I've been a boxing show in Manchester or something and the press took a picture I mean it was like everywhere this big fat outta shape ugly bald and it bearded white as a sheet man I was like a state and he done this video yep after seeing this evidence at Tyson Fury and finally no he's finished he could never come back and if he even if I water for him in he's a day out uh knocked him out and before that he was talking about Mike Tyson now he'd not Mike Tyson now in the round and I thought myself that's very disrespectful to talk about someone who's not even from your era I'm gonna invite them and all that sort of stuff when there's no possible chance so for exactly why you I'm gonna give it you for that reason and then when I saw this over video of him saying things about me and can't come back at now he give me that much more motivation to return just so I can beat Deontay Wilder so I had all these court cases on as well I was being charged for have taken performance-enhancing drugs nuns alone swimming had never done I had I had none Jolanda me system it's produced naturally in the body but they say my levels were elevated the UK ad UK anti-doping said there was no case to answer but all of a sudden I had a big wad a case on me that took nearly three years to sort out and by and everyone said you're gaining hotmail Donnie it's on you getting a 12-year bum and I said you know what well you've been well he is not just for nandrolone I refused him as well I was in a bad mood one day and the drug testing people come in their gym and I've told them to [ __ ] off this is when you were training for your comeback this was when I was out of training yeah when I was just all the time I was fat and out of shape and not training I was still being random drug tested by UK ad really that's why I tested positive twice for cocaine and everyone said no you never get him back they bought the box and water control suspended my license in the UK for the cocaine EMU's so I had a court case looking up ban ban forever basically spent ssin the doctor made me medically unfit to flight so that was after I forgot about that bit when I was rescheduling the klitschko to fight this psychiatrist phoned up and she says look he is medically unfit he can't fight anybody don't want to live never mind fight someone was medically deemed unfit to box suspended by the Boxing Board of Control for the cocaine use and I had an underlined case on me I'm a refusal case and by the way it was racking up millions of dollars in lawyers face to but I was so confident that I was gonna everything was gonna be okay because when I was down on my knees I just knew thought it was gonna be okay and everyone was like what's the point in training and doing anything with you when you're not you can't do anything you're not a musician to do it I said everything is gonna be alright don't worry court case comes along in December we go they say right this court case has dragged on insufficient evidence get rid of it both agreed that we was gonna call quits on the case I got my way they go there's they pay their legal fees I pay my legal fees done that was a drug case out the window finished the suspension I had a meeting with the Board of Control in the UK and they said look if you can get past medically fit by a doctor mentally then we'll reassess your case until then denied so I said right no problem phoned up the psychiatrist the same people who would who had spoke to all these doctors three or four different dr. Phil's dr. Jones whoever else said oh I need I need reassessing reassess me bang past flying colors I went back to the border control handed in my certificate by all these different doctors examinations physical and mental they said we have no choice but to give you a license reinstated bang so it was three the biggest obstacles in my life at once we're all done within a month or two straightaway then I just had the easy task of losing 160 pounds which if I could have got over all them other things losing weight as a fighter was something that I'd done natural anyway so then at me and been set about losing this 160 pounds and on the way back I'm spoke to Frank Warren II became a promoter Frank said right you've got a long time out the ring you've abused your body let's get you four or five comeback fights just so you're ready I said okay no problem how did one comeback fight how'd the other combat fight I said to Frank I don't need any more combat fights make the world to fight now no no no no no he said let's have a couple more just in case I said I'm telling you make the wilder fight so this is where people don't understand I've picked Deontay Wilder he didn't pick me I picked him

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Length: 23min 51sec (1431 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 25 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/j00cy_]

I loved this episode of JRE, but the only objection I have is that Tyson said that suicide is the "easy way out".

I've had good friends who tragically committed suicide, this wasn't because it was the "easy way out". For them, suicide was the logical conclusion for their severe depression. Considering that you'll die eventually, they convinced themselves that suicide is the logical option to avoid decades of suffering from a debilitating mental illness.

Of course, if you have kids, that's a different story. Your friends will obviously be very sad about your death, but they'll get over it eventually. On the other hand, Kids will never get over the death of their father, and it would likely trigger severe mental health problems as well for your kids, since depression/anxiety/bipolar can be a genetic trait that's passed on to your kids.

Other than that, it was a really good podcast, I'm a fan of Tyson Fury though so I'm obviously biased. I highly recommend you watch the whole podcast.