Joe Rogan Experience #1549 - Tom Papa

[Laughter] [Music] tom papa welcome to real america i'm glad you've gotten out of your liberal hidey hole you come here where you can eat at a real restaurant it feels the same does it yeah what do you mean it feels the same it feels the same i went to a restaurant and uh uh you know is that what real life is now restaurant or not a restaurant it feels the same where as it does in l.a just walking around la feels the same as this place uh kinda that's not what you were just saying before we got in the air what are you a [ __ ] propaganda this guy comes here no i'll tell you what the different off air i'll tell you what the difference he was saying y'all and all kinds of guns no you know what i found i i'm here to eat with you by way of denver and then uh and then to here and they're all doing the same things pretty much you have a little more indoor but everyone's masked up everyone's doing things but there's less anxiety in these places right there's in l.a there's they keep the pressure turned up to scare you to get you to behave so you do walk around feeling more trapped and more nervous yeah but it's it's not based on reality it's not it's not wise it's not healthy trump's 74 and he's fat and he kicked it in four days yeah but i don't give a [ __ ] what anybody says what did they give that guy they gave him everything he's the president of the united states but it works they have a thing if you give them everything it works sure we're fat old guys yeah but he's getting stuff that's very different from what you would get just walking into urgent care and encino don't go to urgent care in encino go to cedar cyanide they'll hook you up with whatever he's got yeah do you think they would like is he getting things that you can't get yes in all seriousness yeah are you sure 100 because the first thing is a trial drug that hasn't been approved yet they're not just handing that out at cedars is that the they're the first thing that's rem's no where i say that no that everyone can get that rems de vere remdezzavir remember anyone can get that anyone can get them what is the other thing he got was like the plasma related right therapy you can't get that everywhere no why can't you because you're not the president of the union or maybe the liberal media is trying to keep that from you so they stay sick so they can get bited into the white house ever think about that all right now wait a second [Laughter] [Music] i literally last night because i literally was like there is definitely so much confusion because the that side is ramping up the fear a hundred percent making it scarier than it is so they can get him in to be president and the other side is definitely saying from from trump on down don't worry about this thing so it makes it looks like we did a good job and the economy comes back and all that stuff so i'm like this cognitive dissonance like what is real what i watched tucker carlson he made sense for a minute and then i watched anderson he made sense for a minute and i was like let me lift off into the satellite and let me just look at the world yeah let me see what's happening in the world just that's not involved in this election spain france moscow the netherlands all opened up a little too much and now we're all putting restrictions back everything's spiked yeah but if you want to look at other countries look at sweden because they opened up completely and they have less cases and now they're back to normal they have no masks you go to a bar no one's obviously it's a smaller country smaller country less i mean look less people they live in different sort of circumstances they have mostly smaller villages right other than stockholm but yeah they're they're fine i know but if you look at spain and you look at france back at moscow i mean these places there's no political agenda in these places there's no political agenda it's just they opened up and they said let's go all open and the cases skyrocketed and now they have to like bring it back a little bit it's this the virus is a real thing eating all these extra humans and you know all these exercises human what the [ __ ] what are you saying the virus is a real thing eating all these extra humans yeah what is that what do you mean what kind of way to describe it is that well that's how i look at it eating all these extra humans we have extra humans right now we have way too many humans you can't say it like that well it's the truth you know how sometimes you have moss that's growing and it comes up just up to the edge of the walkway and you're like that looks pretty right and then it starts going over onto the brick and starts coming we are the moss and we're covering the bricks now and something's showing up and scaling us back a little bit or there was an experimental virus that they were working on in the wuhan what is it level four lab and it got out sweden do you think that's where use code lockdown says restrictions will remain for at least another year yeah but the restrictions are very different the restrictions are for really large gatherings but you can go to restaurants you can go to bars but there's still restrictions the virus is a real thing go all around the planet and it's going to be a little bit it's going to be till june by the way i heard in denver how do they know that in denver are they the people who told you about eating up extra humans they told me that uh this pilot was talking to me at the show and he said his doctor of some note was saying that uh all of our pandemics have lasted 18 months despite what we try to do restrictions no restrictions it runs its course 18 months is about where the fire starts to subside and you go back to normal historically historically speaking and this one and because it's a hundred years in between pandemics nobody's around to like give you lessons from the last one so we make all the same mistakes and if you go by that it's about june from when this virus started we're talking about june when we're back to normal which is kind of upsetting but kind of nice also that you have an end date you know it's kind of like all right that's annoying i got to wear mass and do all this stuff and be kind of messed up but till june that's kind of nice i can maybe make some plans i can make a a fourth of july how many businesses are we going to lose between now and june though i think the the real the real issue is people putting restrictions on what people can and can't do that's the real problem is you're basically giving up your constitutional rights and there's there's no real protection for you this way right there's no real protection for your business there's no real protection for your livelihood well and even because even with all this you're still dealing with other kinds of horrible deaths and other kinds of horrible things that go along with the economic despair sure like how many people are going to die because of drug overdoses or depression or suicide yes yeah these have to be factored in too they totally do and i really get the feeling like but there's a there's the con the middle ground right the cnn narrative and the spocs narrative there is the r there's the truth and i still i saw it in portland i saw it in connecticut i saw it in salt lake city what do you say performed in all these places and they are all wearing masks but their businesses are open yes and well that's what we should have had in l.a a long time ago yes they're testing they've got the masks on they're distancing like i ate in restaurants but you know it's limited capacity i performed in comedy clubs half capacity uh but here's the thing not just because of my comedic draw i don't think i don't think that that's scientific because there's aerosol the the virus is carried through the air now yeah this has pretty much been confirmed yeah they used to think it carried through droplets which is the reason for the whole six foot social distancing space they don't think that's the case anymore they think it's airborne so if that's the case all that social distancing stuff is horse [ __ ] because it's in the air but not if you're social distanced and have a mask on i'm telling you the social distancing thing doesn't mean anything anymore gotcha what they're saying you can be close with a mask but you're still in a mask a lot of these masks have holes in them well yeah but a lot of these masks like you see these paper masks that people have with the wire there's an opening in the top there's openings on the side there's a lot of stuff i'm not saying it's not a good idea to wear a mask and maybe it reduces some of the droplets that go out maybe i'm not a scientist neither are you but what i am saying is i don't know how much i think what you're getting is you're getting a lot of people that are healthy and they're going out and they don't have it and they're not giving it to anybody because they don't have it and you're getting away with it and everybody's wearing masks and it's good to be cautious but i don't necessarily know if you were in a room filled with people who had coveted and you unless you had an n95 mask unless you have a real mask i don't know if those [ __ ] cloth masks are going to help you i think they work i mean because look you look at these places what are you basing that on i'm basing it on cities where they have the mask as a as a thing and they made it that mandatory that you wear these masks and the numbers go down everyone does everyone knows what everywhere you have to wear a mask the whole country well now but it wasn't i mean this was fits and starts and you know people screwing around there's all sorts of weird [ __ ] i traveled the protests were a big kick in the virus that was a giant uptick right of course and there was a lot of people out there with no masks not just that they were just bumper to bumper with each other they were right next to each other and screaming right now and it's in the air exactly especially at nighttime they think the sun kills it like almost instantly oh that's nice yeah there's been studies on uv light and uv light kills it almost instantly right so sunlight and even simulated sunlight can kill it all look any precauti it's it's you're playing the odds yeah right you want to do all the things that you can't i want the steroids that trump's on that's what i want i want them to i want the vaccine same [ __ ] that the rock had when he was doing jumanji that's they gave him they gave him all the good stuff yeah the really good stuff and shots in the ass did you see this i want to remember when you were a kid and you got a shot in your butt cheek i do those things worked that's what we need to bring back ass cheese what what what shots did they give you in your butter i don't i don't know but they were remember and you didn't want to go back to the doctor and have some man take your pants off and make you cry in front of your mom so you stayed healthy i never cried on my how funny would be sticking your ass out of your car window to get your vaccine that would be hilarious if everybody just like parked with their butt right up to their driver's side window so look all of this is kind of like it's going to run its course hold on a second but you can do things conley also revealed trump has been treated with dexamethasone an immunosuppressant steroid that can cause euphoric mood changes well there's his tweets since then i'm doing wheelies in the parking lot since then people have posted online about their own experience with the drug interesting and amino suppressants to that's what's interesting too is like they say that one of the things that happens with this disease is you you actually don't want the immune system to react too violently to the disease or too too aggressively to the disease so they're given i don't understand the logic behind that because i'm stupid i tried to read that article it was complicated like your it made me think how amazing the human body is this immune system like there's stages of the immune system like it originally comes out and gives you a dose of stuff and surrounds the virus and then it goes up and then it ramps up and then it reboots and then like sends another part it was like four stages of what your immune system does and because it has to be ramped up to attack this virus it could actually hurt you more than the virus well here it says what does dexamethasone do dexamethasone is a co quarter corticosteroid hormone that decreases the body's natural immune response reduces swelling and allergic reaction symptoms this medication treats a number of conditions including asthma ibs crohn's disease and a number of lymphomas it is used to treat covet 19 because serious cases can provoke an exaggerated immune response releasing a gnar a large number of pro-inflammatory cytokines in what's known as a cytokine storm i've heard of that as immunosuppressant dexamethasone is thought to help reduce the likelihood of the body's over-reaction to the virus researchers found dexamethasone to significantly reduce mortality among seriously ill i.e hospitalized covid19 patients scientists have said it may prevent one in three deaths among patients on ventilators wow interesting yeah so they gave him they threw the kitchen sink at it immediately yeah and it worked yeah you're the president of the united states you should get everything they possibly have i'm getting at this by [ __ ] with you here is that in these times where things are very unsure a lot of times people like to say exactly what you need to do and what's happening right as long as people do this we're okay as long as we wear a mask we're okay because and i'm not sure i'm not sure that's the case okay we're all gonna get it that's what i think well that is well then that is the reality of what i'm saying that doctor's saying that it goes 18 months but i don't know if 18 months mean everybody gets it you're gonna come in contact with it right and some people's immune system just beats it that's what that's what i kind of after looking at it globally last night and what that doctor said of this timeline which is total hearsay um but it seems to make sense uh it was it made me think all of this is noise and us all freaking out what about my job what about the mass what about this what do we do is it real is it not and it's all we're all freaking out and it's going to run its course either way despite how crazy we get this virus is going to run its course and in a year and a half it's gonna kind of exactly listen what you're saying you're talking as if you know what's gonna happen i'm guessing but but see what people do you just sort of lay it out they do people do this at cocktail parties like you say yeah well we gotta do we got this is how it's going to go yeah yeah yeah and you feel comfortable oh come first comforted by that and then you go home if i if if you say if you say to a room full of people i feel like i'm getting something everybody there knows what to do they run away from you you got to take zinc you got to take this you got right you owe chicken soup you know what you got to do you got to get ginger there's this ginger drink everybody has the idea and that's what i'm trying to say like we're all trying to control the universe but this thing's going to run its course it's going to happen we don't really have that much control over well it's insanely contagious santino caught it giving a guy a ride home 10-minute ride home with the windows open and he caught it no mask no they weren't wearing masks yeah the guy didn't know he had it no symptoms no coughing no nothing right gives him a ride home for 10 minutes how did he know that that was the guy because the guy called him afterwards a couple days later and says i got it yeah and then santino's like [ __ ] and then a couple days after that santino has it i like fouchy he looks like a little guy from the bronx and he's kind of makes me feel comfortable and he's on the in the administration part of the trump team and he's saying please just wear the mask yes but you know initially he didn't say that and the reason why he didn't say that is because he wanted to make sure there's mass for first responders right the problem with that mean that means he lied that means he said something that he knew wasn't true i'm not perfect everybody lies he said something he knew wasn't true because he wanted people to react in a certain way but then they still expect he still expects them to trust him after that i'm not saying you shouldn't trust him i hear you i'm not saying it's wise or unwise but i'm saying in that circumstance i wouldn't have recommended he do that of course not i mean the idea was that we were panicked and he thought like look if i tell people everybody get a mask then there's going to be this nationwide short of a shortage of mass 100 the the i read this article of countries that have done better than other countries south korea new zealand they have advantages about uh isolation isolation and and all that kind of stuff and fewer people but the main thing that they were saying is communication tell people the truth and they'll react accordingly and it calms the history and it puts trust in the people that are giving you the advice so if he had come out and said masks are important use a bandana and leave these for the health care workers these are very important that these people on the front lines get it that would have been so much better because then we wouldn't have comes the discussion the bandanas are useless they look cool though not really they you look better than the places okay if you weren't in a pandemic and you're wearing a bandana over your face like that you were either a douchebag or a bank robber what about when you pull it down around your neck you look like you're at studio 54 you're a chris christopherson fan or you're a guy who's at the range like i got a lot of guys at the gun range they'll put bandanas around their neck because shells come flying hot shells right and they can land in your collar and burn your neck i like it i used to wear it when i was on my motorcycle i would wear a bandana up for that same reason for the road stuff and then you walk into the bar afterwards and you pull it down it you look like a badass yeah yeah you take that little disposable paper thing and put it down in your neck no one's looking at you my friend jeff who's a doctor he said that's the worst thing you can wear so it's bandanas he says yeah he said cloth masks are better they're thicker they'll protect you more it goes but you really want an n95 mask yeah that's the real deal i've been in my travels i've been on four or five round-trip flights and uh i've been wearing the paper one the disposable ones yeah the paper ones are okay as long as they're easiest to breathe in which makes me suspicious i know that's i was thinking the same thing that's what i was saying i think if it's airborne yeah i don't know if that [ __ ] is blocking that much i don't i know i'm like i'm wearing the bandana i'm suffocating so then i put on the the disposable one i'm like oh this is good i can go all the way to new york like this what do you think's larger the virus in the air in aerosol or fart particles because i guarantee you that made me suspicious too because it was a hard fart there was i got on the i got on the tram in denver and at like eight in the morning and someone let a meaty one out i mean one of those lasagna farts and it the whole place we're all in masks and everyone was horrified i'm like how strong they say anything no they didn't have to you saw facial expressions there's a couple i met i made eye contact with the lady next and we both gave an eye roll just to tell each other it wasn't us but somebody let it through and i'm like if this fart's getting through joey diaz farted on a plane it was so bad i wrote a story about it i did it but i wrote a [ __ ] it's called happy pills it's probably still out there on the internet somewhere it was on my blog but he wrote he cut a fart that was so bad and i was in the middle of like thinking about i was like thinking about life and people getting older i was like thinking like and i was listening to jimi hendrix and i was high and uh and he cut this fart and this lady behind us goes oh my god and he starts laughing he starts laughing and i put my shirt over my face i'm like oh my god it was so bad it was so bad oh it's the worst some are so powerful look at that if a fart can make it through pants how can a mask protect you from a virus exactly that's what i'm saying who wrote this article johnny farks like a yahoo news thing the fart particles are way smaller apparently kristin may oh doc dr mcqueen thousand times smaller doctor mcqueen fart particles are smaller than the virus yeah that's why hmm wow tiny stinky fart molecules let's see c4 3sh is a rather small molecule with a diameter around oh my god they've like the they've measured farts yeah this is science by comparison viruses typically range in diameter for okay much more much larger covid19 being about 60 to 140 nm i don't know what that means what is meters or i'm not sure okay so farts are smaller yep the virus is 100 to 1000 times bigger than a fart molecule what about if a virus goes through farts oh wait a minute hold on go back to that he goes they explain how n95 mass work look at that and 95 mass is capable of filtering 95 of test aerosol containing the average particle size of 300 nm basically n95 mask has a tight weave pattern with multiple layers to serve as a barrier to larger structures like viruses or simple simply spittle okay that works that stuff works there's a reason doctors wear that stuff for all sorts of things right keith robinson once uh my good pal and comedian uh we were at frisco's across from radio city music hall it's a statistic del frisco's yeah it's a great place great place huge uh it's two floors but the there's no ceiling over the first floor dining section so it's just like i don't know 50 feet high in the air we had this big dinner the steak dinner i mean it's a massive place with huge ventilation like you could do a show there now for in the middle of a pandemic and everyone would be safe and he farted on our way out of there he crop dusted the whole place other tables were putting napkins over their faces dropping silverware it was that bad it was that bad just toxic what was he eating i don't know it's usually all these decades what's that it's a mixture of things usually like when you mix broccoli and meat well pour some beans some beans following that up no it's disgusting no but i was i was like but by the way i leave uh the reason i started like even looking at like the perception of it all and trying to look at it in a global way is because it is confusing it's it's this whole thing is very confusing and that we're in the middle of a election makes it so confusing because everyone's using whatever little information they have to their advantage but there's also the confusion of i'm in la i go to lax joe i could have gotten there five minutes before my flight yeah i'm the only guy going through security i walk right up to the gate and get on the plane like no wait at no traffic going down no wait at all that's unheard of and i land in denver it's like it's 2018. packed you know that big yeah that's real america tom that's what i was telling you you're living in this [ __ ] liberal communist marxist phony state it's a nation state and it's controlled by a dictator named gavin newsom and he wants you to be poor why would he want me to be because he wants more hair he wants he wants to use your money to grow his hair thicker you ever see his sexy shot have you ever given a sexy shot you ever saw the sexy shot who was the woman that gave the that he used to date who's now on the trump uh oh that was his wife yeah donald trump's junior's girlfriend is his ex-wife yeah which i had no idea before shots that they made together before he ruined san francisco they were together yeah they were they're laying on like a bear skin rug oh no oh yeah they call him the new kennedys jamies you got it boy oh what who let them take that picture who who why would you do that that's fine if jimmy kimmel used that why would you do that is that hilarious who who said yes to that what serious politician poses on the floor with your knee up the kind that wants to wreck a whole state we've got to get the lock down i have to say when he was giving the speeches in the beginning of the lockdown i liked hearing him well he sounds good he does he's a handsome man he he looks very distinguished his voice is good but raspy draconian laws these draconian enforcements the way they're handling it it's just what state do you think is handling it the right way like where do you think it who's who's got kind of like it down florida you think they're like buck wild let's go florida doesn't give a [ __ ] disney world you're open jimmy buffett concerts we could do stand-up in an arena in florida and i'm not kidding i know no social distancing no mass requirement now what's happening to their numbers they did this what two weeks ago they're fine everyone's getting stronger and younger they're going back they're going back in time you never get any older and you never die they look better than they have ever looked they're the only ones free in this whole country they're the most american people in america freedom is kind of overrated don't you think listen to this [ __ ] communism they got you beaten down i understand you have a mortgage you got to stay in california you're trying to swallow the kool-aid you're taking it down and in sperm like chunks you just trying to swallow it and this the chunky sauce of gavin newsom you're sucking it down your pipe right now but there's no difference but what's the difference it's restaurants you can't go to comedy clubs you can't go to restaurants you can't go to you can only go to comedy clubs you can't go to retail stores you can go to retail stores you can't go to any retail store in a mall that doesn't have an outside entrance what yes my wife is just at the mall yes you can go to like nordstrom's because they got an outside entrance inside well unless they've changed it recently that's how oh it's a whole euphoria now you got to come you got to move back it's amazing propagandist i told you jamie i told you we can't have him on he's he's he's done he's he's got a fever i just got tested i know you you are negative but i want to test your forehead i want to see if you got something else i want to see if you have a fever what is the difference between l.a and i know i'm asking this honestly because i i was kind of trying to figure it out because honestly all all [ __ ] around people are less scared here yes they're first of all they're way friendlier here yeah they it's just it just seems more relaxed you can work you can go to work you wear a mask and you go to work right and it i mean i'm sure there are some cases but deaths are way down everywhere in the country you know that i mean they used to be climbing and climbing climbing now it's like it was two thousand two hundred and eight thousand people now it's two hundred and nine 000 people when you're dealing with 320 million plus people it's a relatively small number of people dying from it so they have the remedies better they have the the treatment the different treatments better yeah for sure you know it still sucks i don't want to get it but everybody that i know that's god has kicked it pretty easy except michael yo and michael yo was in a bad state when he got it he was really run down right but broken down yeah he's been traveling a lot and he has low vitamin d admittedly he wasn't taking vitamin d which is apparently a big factor in your immune system i do feel like that that's probably like the the places that i've been they're they're not ignoring it it's not florida you can't they're not ignoring it florida i don't even think florida's really ignoring it the governor all [ __ ] aside the governor put a chart up and he was saying the issue that we really need to concern ourselves with is people 70 plus like 70 plus are the ones who have a significant risk of dying and he's saying everybody else what we really need to consider is the people that have underlying conditions and we need to you know those people i mean this is what should have been done all along the people that are at higher risk should have been sheltered right but shutting everything down is an economic disaster right that's where we're at right and i just and like they shot the comedy store down when they were trying to do shows outside in the parking lot with with a [ __ ] snot shield in front of everybody i know they had a big glass shield in front of the audience yeah and they still said no outside no it's ridiculous go to the restaurant outside but you can't do stand-up in the parking lot of the store i don't get that at all because there's no there's literally no um there's no difference and there's and i you know i've performed in a lot of places i was in a casino in connecticut and you know everyone's wearing masks everyone's doing the right thing i'd rather catch covet to do a casino in connecticut i'm not proud of it but i'm not so i'm not proud of it but i just which casino i had to go see my family and uh mohegan son and uh i mean doing the shows was so great oh the comedy store uh documentary i got to see it for my radio show i got to see you all the way through they sent it to me in advance it's really good it's heavy it's really great it's there's a real depth to it your part is amazing and i mean it's just amazing like what you did for that club was yeah everybody kind of knows like how you had such an impact on it but actually seeing it you know we're with you all the time and you see the but seeing like the in a documentary style starting with the mencia of it and getting to now man it made me want to kiss you right on the lips is that a threat he's threatening me now jesus jamie really come here it really is such a great thing because to have such a historic place that was so bright and great and then really decimated and fell on its ass and you're really the force that brought it back to this was like oh it was it was just great it was so great and watching your story was really really cool well thanks man it was heavy it was weird to make i cried a bunch of times thinking about mitzi yeah you know yeah man thinking about the old days but what it was like to come there you know just to be a paid regular there it's uh you know it's such a polarizing place so many people have a negative impression of it because it's such a difficult club and there's so many killers there and a lot of people just didn't feel like they got the respect that they deserve there but it's it's not the case you just it's you needed a higher level it's hard you you're going up you're on a lineup with 15 murderers and everyone's killing in front of you and there's a lot of people that would go there and they would have like sort of mediocre sets and they would be upset because they had a career like they'd be on television shows should be doing things yeah and the comedy store would be like oh you know we don't have any spots for you like what the [ __ ] and they would harbor this terrible resentment and they would talk about it like years later they would say you know i had to prove myself at that place like hey man everybody had to prove themselves with that place they don't give a [ __ ] if you're on a tv show they don't give a [ __ ] no one cares no and it's it's not a it's not an easy place just like take the booking out of it yeah getting up and performing in any of those rooms you got to be good you've got it and you not only have to be good you have to learn that room all those rooms it's tough yeah it's a tough place but the exciting thing is the people that do come through and then the people that are coming up like laura beats like annie letterman like all the all these young kids that are coming up ali makovsky and then you know you have these people that are you know they're there and established and looking to break through like tony hinchcliffe yeah guys who are killers yeah it's there's so many of them and it makes you like if you can stick it out it really does make you but for some people like they like the ucb they liked these places where they could go comforting everybody was relaxed everybody's supporting yeah it was loves you it was a lower level of comedy and the audience was a little bit more enthusiastic about laughing yeah nobody's gonna no one's gonna bomb also there's a darkness to the store that's undeniable and i think it comes from it being cyril's nightclub because it was bugsy siegel's nightclub and people were legitimately murdered there i know that is a hundred percent fact people were murdered at the comedy store yeah who owns zeroes was that bugsy siegel bugsy siegel bugsy siegel owns zeros dude there's old school pictures there's old school pictures of cirros that are amazing well you could see the stage where we perform on but instead jerry lewis and dean martin are on that stage yeah doing a live show now what is that because there are places that the place has a magic to it yeah right there are places that just undeniably succeed and there's other places that never really get it going and i'm talking about restaurants or hotel or just like there's some there's a magic to certain i think spots things have memory rupert sheldrick believed this he believes that uh he's uh uh an intellectual i forget what his actual discipline is isn't he biologist what is what is rupert sheldrick's a mathematician i forget what he exactly does but he has this concept that everything has memory and he believes in this thing called morphic resonance that all these things are connected in some sort of indescribable unmeasurable way but i'm probably butchering that but he also believes that things have memory a type of memory and this is the reason why people don't want to live in a house where someone was murdered right yeah and you could feel it yeah you don't want to buy a car that someone blew their brains out in right you know what i mean yeah remember that movie stephen king movie christine yeah yeah awesome better book book books [ __ ] incredible yeah i hate when people say that but it really is yeah it's mourinho the book is way more in depth and it's just it's a slower process of the kid who owns the car going crazy oh nice yeah and it's um you know it's someone died in the car and the guy the guy who owned it haunted the car so great that was the story that someone died in the car so great no things definitely yeah like you wouldn't want you wouldn't even want to buy an asshole's car like if you you had some person who's really mean he's a real shitty person he wouldn't buy their car like driving around their car no like when you go look like when you go to buy a car or buy a house there you walk in and you know that you if it fits you yeah like that's a thing sure it's a vibe that's uh you get it yeah you know there's something there there's something beyond what you're seeing yeah like if you buy a house and you meet the owner and you get along great with them you're real friendly like that's that's a nice feeling yeah you're like oh we bought mike's house yeah exactly there's a little story to it yeah and that's the thing with the story there is really a long story of show business in that spot and it's it is it's got many edges to it which is just like comedy the thing that i loved about the store is not just that it's just this historic place where all these great comics started out like kennison and richard pryor and all these people made their mark there but it's it's also a place where everybody worked out there so there's failure in that room too there's the potential for failure it's not a place where you film things all the time and everything's perfect and it's all polished and no there's you work there's a it's a gym right it's got edge to it and it's got you know there's people people went up on stage they're too drunk they went up coked up right they they failed they got in fights with audience members you know yeah it's it's just it's got it's got so much humanity to it the coolest part i think uh of the old crew was watching the jim carrey stuff how you know he was kicking ass and pretty successful and killing in the room and then changes his act and sucks for a long time as he's leaving the impressions and going into other stuff and i mean the balls of that yeah in that room and you just see him in the hallway there's pictures of him just sweating he's just drenched out he doesn't know what he's doing but that they supported him and let him do that in that room like that because you know when you're there people are throwing fastballs everyone's great and everyone's killing and then you've got to be humble to get up there and really stick to your guns yeah and try your new [ __ ] and suck and when you saw the old guys that aren't really around anymore was it tim thommerson is that one of them yeah you saw you saw these guys that they said was like a killer kill he seemed like a killer yeah but you realize like all these guys come in waves i know you know i mean there's these guys like if you don't know any better like you might not know who rick ingram is right but you might have to follow that [ __ ] and he's throwing some 94 miles an hour right down the pipe whoa you're there with your new notes good luck [ __ ] yeah or you know you might go on after sarah silverman murders or you might going after eliza selection or gets a [ __ ] standing ovation yeah you that place is crazy man i know and it it was filled with good feelings and bad feelings and there was a lot of emotions and there was a lot of arguments and there was a lot of tension yeah but the last few years was the most camaraderie the most the most warmth and supportive that i've ever felt it there oh 100 and i think i i attribute that to the internet and i attribute that to podcast because i felt like it was a time of bounty it wasn't a time of famine and in the past it was everyone had this famine mentality because like if you got a sitcom and i was trying out for the same part i felt like you took something from me like [ __ ] there's only one part in the sitcom and tom got it or if you were trying out for a game show or you're trying out for a talk show yeah and there's you know five of us are out for it and one of us gets it so there's this weird creepy competitiveness right and if you were on a morning radio show and then there was a guy who was across town that was on the radio the same time you weren't his buddy right like we're friends and we also have podcasts and i tell people listen to tom papa's podcast listen to tom papa's radio show listen to fortune feminist and tom popper on on sirius yeah they're both great there's a camaraderie there's a different thing now like we support each other like i don't think of you and fortune as being competitors i think you've been my friends oh you should what fortune says about you oh no oh no fortunately unfortunately why why but there's none of that in this community like everybody does everybody's podcast that's a great insight it's never happened before no never been like that before no yeah i mean when we started guys helped each other before a little bit but only if it didn't hurt them right now you don't have to worry about it hurting you it only helps you like if i help you it only helps me because people know you're funny and they go oh i can listen to joe because every time he tells you about a comic i know they're funny right because he's telling the truth that's right that's why i won't have people on it suck and i've had people ask right i can't do it i can't do it sometimes people get real edgy they don't get a response i have to hide i have to fill it to myself i have to change my phone number that's where jamie comes in no jamie doesn't insulate good luck getting through jamie jamie's fort knox [ __ ] you ain't getting through that wall i think about jamie every time something technologically doesn't work i'm like oh he'll baby he'll figure it out but as far as like getting through to him to get to the show he is the least approachable [Laughter] i remember i remember when i got a pilot or something and uh early on and geraldo my great geraldo geraldos my friend said uh we all went out to dinner with esty and manny from the comedy cellar and greg and his wife and myself and my wife and greg took me aside and he said dude i have to i this is how much i love you i am genuinely happy for you i know people say like i'm happy for you but it was so unusual to truly be happy for other comedians that he had to take me aside and say no joke i this is i am so happy for you and he didn't have his own ego involved he didn't have any of that and at that time you're right that was an unusual position to be in it was there's only a few friends that i had that were we were real tight like that all throughout comedy like joey diaz for sure always duncan trussell there's a lot of those guys that it was real tight with from the beginning yeah but greg was or greg giraldo not just for simmons just such a smart person just an interesting person you know i was really lucky um i knew greg from new york but we also were on the set together because uh news radio was being filmed right next to his show when when he came in right we were on the same set oh wow so i would hang out with him all the time we'd go out in the parking lot and run into them wow we knew each other from l.a that's from new york you know that was a fun time and also the john larroquette show was there too and i'm pretty sure oh yeah wasn't lenny clark on the john laraquette show that sounds i'm pretty sure lenny clark was on that show yeah something yeah it sounds familiar but uh that was there too was it lenny clark was he on that show i think yeah that's a hard one good luck spelling that lenny clark was on that uh and tv shows such as concert rob and john lara catshow yes okay so lenny was there too yeah i'm trying to remember it but uh i didn't run into lenny as much but i ran into and also you know who else was there joey lawrence oh really yeah joey lawrence we used to sit in his car with his fabulous hairs i was so so jealous of his hair because it was right my hair was really like struggling and uh he would sit in his car and he was like [ __ ] 12 years old there's lenny clark oh yeah look at him i love that [ __ ] yeah what a force yeah and ron funches that's not wrong oh son of a [ __ ] looks like guy's so much older than ron shut up [Laughter] be mean lenny clark um so they were they were right next door and joey lawrence his show was there and so he would sit in his car he had like you know he's like [ __ ] 12 years old or something yeah and he had some ridic he's probably 20. but he hasn't easier ridiculously expensive car that i could never afford and he'd be playing his own music yeah so he had his door open and he'd be like sitting there jamming to his own music really loud his own music yeah yeah and uh and i'd be like look at that guy living the life all i could think of is like how many girls must be throwing themselves at joey lawrence oh my god he's there playing his own music there he is look at him look at this great beautiful i've never had hair that good ever i had i had it for like a week when i was seven my hair yeah like this yeah it's great he is yeah that 80s like graffiti in the back and the big jackets he looks like madonna he looks like madonna he's got this why does he have this shirt tied around his waist i feel like you could give that to shirts you're filming hand that shirt off to somebody is that like a look see joe that's why you were never a heartthrob you don't understand the intricacies there's a lot of reasons why i was never a heartthrob i'm not good looking enough but the uh that he's adorable it's a different look that he's got oh i love picturing him in his in his car listening to his own music yeah that's what he would do and we would be like well look at that kid living our life live in la vida loca i remember that when greg was doing that show he had this guy that was running the show who was just like we didn't you know you didn't know anybody from la who wrote shows so they just matched him up with some guy and he came by the cellar and and i met him and it was just like you know when you meet people who like they just don't give a [ __ ] like you could tell he was just getting paid and it's just another pilot he's gonna have 50 more he's already done 25. and he was we were like you know you should barely do this for greg and he's just like yeah and he just knew in his eyes like this guy's not really gonna help greg well people don't know what we're talking about but we should try to explain that there was a time where you would go to the montreal comedy festival and you'd get a development deal and this is like everybody would cash in yeah you go get a development deal and then you they would try to do a pilot yeah and i knew so many people that lost their [ __ ] minds when they got deals to do a pilot i had a phone call from this guy i'm not going to say his name but he's he was a terrible comedian he calls you up and he says hey listen i know you've got a show that you're working on right now but i'm telling you my show is going to go to air and i want you to play my brother i was like what he's like i know it's a smaller show but this show's guaranteed to air never aired of course not and he starts telling me all these crazy things like that like there's a guaranteed pickup and if this doesn't pick up then nbc universal's got second position and they're gonna pick it up like he was drinking the kool-aid it was like the craziest conversation it's hard the first time around nothing ever happened for him nothing nothing ever happened for him what i mean nothing i mean nothing i mean that went away and then he never really had a stand-up career never had anything who was it again i'm not saying but the conversation was so bizarre yeah because he called me up i was in the middle of filming something and he was telling me listen forget that [ __ ] yeah i've got a thing this is going to go it hits people honestly it hits so many people yeah with an ego i knew someone who all of a sudden had an assistant i'm like why do you have an assistant right like what do you do i don't have to get off the plane right i tell people don't get an assistant do less [ __ ] if you ever need an assistant smart just do less things sarah says that too sarah silverman says smart lady yeah that's that's the move yeah do last thing right you need a [ __ ] assistant like what are you doing some people like it it's the ego stroke of it exactly they know that famous people have assistance would you like tom latte latte grande grande latte tom yeah coming up with stuff for them to do but the problem with assistance is sometimes they taser you like david spades yeah yeah no i know [ __ ] guy tried to get out of those stories that guy wanted to kill him too close yeah way too close yeah he well maybe david wasn't nice to him i mean let's just no i mean probably not that big a stretch to say he felt a little demeaned i mean i don't know what happened i'm sure he just he just he misconstrues could be well just his attitude the smug asides yeah he just thought he was serious he thought he was serious exactly it was just jokes just jokes but that was a heady time i kind of just missed that time like when because that was the way for comedians was the the sitcom yeah that was the the roseanne the science exactly all those everybody everybody on down convinced that that was what you needed to do that was the formula and so you would do it and then you would get on a show and then hopefully people would come to see you at comedy clubs that's my strategy i was like i was hoping i could get a special somewhere and i was hoping someone would come to see me at comedy clubs i had the i had the thing where i just never thought i was ready for it like even when i had like my first pilot it was like yeah we'll see and like guys with huge egos would be like oh this is my thing i'm gonna make this the thing and i was always like i don't know if i'm really people might think i have a huge ego good enough because uh it seems like i do but honestly i've never thought that anything that i was doing was gonna work yeah i i always thought it was gonna be cancelled i never thought like yeah i did jokes about fear fact being canceled the very moment it was on the air and i'm like i'm doing this show is not going to [ __ ] last they're sticking dogs on people making them eat animal dicks how long are we going to do this or even news radio like that was a that was a great show to kind of check your ego because i was only one of eight people and the other people especially phil hartman and dave foley were much more famous much more talented and it was like it was in it was like i had an opportunity to do like an apprenticeship like i had an opportunity to learn what it's like to act i've never taken i took a few acting classes private lessons when i had gotten a development deal but i never acted right and then all of a sudden a couple of months later i'm on tv like literally very little preparation and i'm sitting there next to phil hartman on a tv show that if you watch those old news radios it looks like it like because my character had to be kind of like kind of innocent and stupid and uh and i was like really into conspiracies which they made that's so funny because of me because i really was really into conspiracies they kind of turned my character that way but while i was there i was kind of like huh was this really happening like even while i was doing it well that's what's wild about it is a lot of moments in this career you're so cute oh adorable fresh-faced twenty-seven look at that 27. yeah back then it's weird because you get into a situation where you have to be great at it while you're learning it yeah like that is a but the thing is but you were surrounded by good people and it's also it's sitcom acting right and stand-up is harder than that and i had already been doing stand-up for six years but where you did where did you believe that when you walked in there didn't you think this is god yes this has got to be harder no no you've done it's definitely easier oh and i know it is but when you first showed up on set weren't you scared like no i don't know no no i thought it was easier for sure yeah yeah yeah 100 yeah it was definitely easier because you could do it again like you did in front of a live audience if you [ __ ] up like we [ __ ] up all the time we would laugh about it and then we would do a retake right like i was always laughing when i would do scenes with andy dick i could never keep it together oh really i tried to keep a straight face and he i would always crack he was so funny man i mean he's so self-destructive and so crazy but so [ __ ] talented andy dick is literally one of the funniest human beings i've ever done anything with just so but you can't after a while you're like i can't you can't do this anymore you're just too crazy yeah but so talented and when he and i had this weird sort of dynamic on the show and we had these hilarious scenes together and you know and he would i it was so hard to do so you would be able to like [ __ ] up and laugh and then the audience actually got a kick out of it yeah because they got to see how the sausage was made right they got to see the behind the scenes because you're breaking but way easier if you follow the line they give it to you you redo it it's a hundred times easier oh it is yeah but when you don't know it yours was the ray romano roll right well sort of i took the ray romano role that someone else took see what happens is ray got fired from the pilot they brought in another guy for the pilot wow okay that guy did the pilot there was another guy on the original episode of news radio that played me and then they fired that guy and then i entered into a cattle call and there's like a hundred dudes that auditioned for the part and i i wound up getting it wow oh all right that's good but i had a development deal with nbc to do my own show oh so they could use your contract and put you in that yeah so in the middle of the development deal they're trying to find me writers we're talking about different projects yeah and they say to me hey we have this show we'd like you to look at and they showed me this pilot which is [ __ ] genius and i just come from this fox show which started off really good the writers were hilarious yeah they were really good writers they wrote for the simpsons they wrote for married with children they were excellent yeah but they got [ __ ] over hard they brought in this producer and just ruined the show and all these network executives are getting their [ __ ] spittle laden fingers all over everything that's what's so hard that's what's so hard is that anytime you get that many people on anything any organization the idea you've got that's where the luck comes in that all those people are going to be cool and not ruin it it's just something that's waiting to be ruined yeah everything where you get a lot of people together and try to create an art piece good luck tough sometimes it works yeah but you know that's like why the great directors you know like the soderbergs and the nolan's james cameron's they end up working with a lot of the same people all the time adam sandler does that as well yeah because you can you you have some control over the universe well you also know how each other works and you all have a common goal and you've done it before so you know how to do it right right or you have these people that are these super powerful figures like cameron who just takes control of everything i've heard like james cameron will grab a paintbrush give me that [ __ ] thing you don't know what you're doing and like paint the wall because it's just like he's got a vision and if if they let him yeah do it you get avatar right i don't right otherwise you get [ __ ] a bunch of other people and then you get like one of the more recent star wars movies where you get a bunch of people trying to add this and that and yeah use a formula you get dog [ __ ] yeah you get dog [ __ ] and that was the guy when back to the geraldo thing when i saw that guy i knew he was one of those guys it was just like and then it just ended up like oh that's not greg well after i did news radio i did have a development deal to do another show i think i might have had two different development deals i had one then another one afterwards but i was like really soured because news radio was so good and the directors and the producers and the actors and everyone the writers were so [ __ ] good those scripts were really great i would read this other stuff and i'd be like this is horrible yeah i can't do and also it's the risk of the the crew that we had were hard partiers that were really fun people like me and foley and mara and and and some of the other folks on the show we would get hammered i mean after the show after show film we'd go to like local bars we'd walk to a local bar or we'd drink on the set we would get blasted like they were partiers yeah like especially foley he loved to drink and it was it was like there was a camaraderie to that it was like and we always felt like we were outcasts we never made it you know yeah that show didn't become famous really until after it was canceled yeah i remember thinking about writing and getting some news radio scripts from my agent they were so funny they're brilliant paul is a legitimate genius they were tight yeah but what a cool thing to be in that kind of environment because a lot of times you end up like playing like a dad or something and it's like you had like your brothers your comedic brothers around you like that's like a pirate ship it was like punk rock a little bit like yeah like we were doing this show but we knew that we were the underdogs yeah we never had a good time slot we only had a good time slot once they put us on like uh after friends once and we were like number three we're like holy [ __ ] we realized that's what it takes you have to be on after a really good show how long is it on we were on for five years but the last year was the year that after phil was murdered so last year was uh with john lovitz he took over the the hartman spot and he was a really good friend of phil's and you know he had done an episode before and so he would probably be the only guy that we would have embraced to do that because it was just like he he sort of fit that the toughest he's so funny that was your funny cat that was the only year that we thought that it was going to come back like every year we thought it was going to be cancelled like first year this is not going to make it you know we're rating suck and we made it back and then the fifth year we were like wow we're doing pretty good cancelled ah the weird they pulled the plug on it that's weird what people decide to cancel and don't decide to cancel unless you're a giant hit unless you're like um modern family or something like that you really never know no you don't know that's a [ __ ] great show modern family oh god i've never watched it it's really good but my whole family got into it during the lockdown oh yeah god that's a good show oh it's talking about great writing well written i know so well yeah amazing i auditioned for for a role in it and it didn't it was kind of okay but it was um oh what's his name you know the husband um uh i for i'm just basing on his name but it's one of those where like you audition for something and then you watch somebody who got the role and you're like oh yeah yeah he's better than me yeah good move i love ed o'neill too oh he's great i mean to have that character to have like those two great characters like married with children and then this i know so good everyone on that is solid and the story lines are so good it's so good it's just such a well-made show and the fact that it's done that way and that funny with no audience is incredible i know you know it's all singing camera that means that there's people that are really fun that know funny yeah right because you can get in that situation and have somebody who yeah it's funny enough that's funny right they don't have that level of what they know is funny do you ever watch unbreakable kimmy schmidt no one of the funny shows on tv really amazing so good tina fey yep tina fey show it's on netflix i forget who the girl is the redheaded girl but she the girl who plays kimmy schmidt and uh titus andromedus oh he uh the gay guy he's [ __ ] amazing he's so good he's a force it's a hilarious show yeah and it's a crazy show it's a girl about a girl gets kidnapped brought into a sex cult and locked into a bunker for 15 years so she gets she gets released and she has no idea how the world works but she's super innocent but really positive it's [ __ ] great that's great it's a really good show man i love those characters do you read uh what about ted lasso are you seeing that one there what's that that's um uh oh what's his name not uh jason sudeikis no i don't know what that is it's on uh i think on apple uh so similar characters one of those apple only shows yeah yeah those are weird like who's watching those i know you know this one seems like it's catching this one seems like yeah and he the same kind of character he's just wide-eyed and super optimistic football coach that comes to england to coach soccer that's a good prank and he's so positive he's just really just you can't break this guy and he's just it's almost like a dumb optimism it's great he's so good in it everyone on it is there's too much good stuff to watch right now i know oh but you know what i did want to talk to you about yeah i watched the social dilemma oh geez dude you know that's a must-see kids i heard it's depressing oh so because it's so real real life's depressing tom listen to you everything's gonna be fine wear a mask i live in communist russia wear a mask trust me gavin newsom's penis tastes delicious we're all going to be fine we are going to be fine you think we exist on this plane and this plane only oh that's heavy no no because i've done a lot of drugs i think there's probably something i've seen i think there's something i think there's something else out there but just unaccessible right now yeah but this social dilemma makes me very concerned about the future because all of these technologists and all these people that have invented all this stuff that now are very unhappy yeah it's really fascinating to see them discussing their own creations and see outsiders who are also technologists who didn't didn't invent these things but are seeing the patterns and these things and understand it from you know a really educated perspective they're they're saying this could lead to civil war like people are getting more and more divided and it shows in the film how social media has made people far more polarized far more divided than ever before the the red and the blue and the different you know it's like it's disturbing what's the most dangerous part of it and can it be corrected well there's a lot of dangerous parts about it but the thought bubbles the the fact that these people get in these these bubbles of thought where everybody around you thinks your way and everybody who thinks a different way is the enemy yeah this is a really dangerous part of the reality that we live in today because it's not what we anticipated i thought that the internet and the age of information and all that we're experiencing right now would bring about an understanding in a nuanced perspective yeah in life in all ways so you'd be able to see things from other people's perspectives more more easily because it'd be more readily available and it would be more encouraged for you to seek out all this information but a bunch of factors that happen at the same time all have sort of made it worse than ever before and one of them is trump trump being such a polarizing figure yeah and whether or not you know how whether or not it's justified and how much of it's justified and how much of it is liberal propaganda and how much of it is republican propaganda when you look at the way people feel about him and the things they equate with him like they equate white supremacy and you know and and anti-immigrant mentality and you know xenophobia and all these different things they think and a lack of empathy and which is probably accurate right if there's anything if you could say anything about trump one of the things you would say that's negative is he seems to not be empathetic he doesn't seem to care about other people right the way you would want a leader to care about people like you don't understand you don't buy it right even when people die like when john mccain died he still never had any empathy for the guy and you know it's just yeah there's so many and then so it's so easy to look at him and even though in his mind he's got to be a tough guy if people come at him he's going to come back at them but this is like sort of the mentality that someone takes if you're battling trolls online you you don't understand like you as the president you're supposed to be you're in this rare position you can't be responding to individuals because you're too big you represent a different thing you're not donald trump anymore you're donald trump who is also the president of the united states yes and if you don't adjust the way you communicate with people and bring people together and one of the things that obama did brilliantly was he made you feel like america was something you could be proud of because that guy's representing you this really articulate super smooth statesman who seemed elegant and he seemed like composed and when he would speak regard regardless of his policies you know regardless of the criticism you might have of his his administration the way he handled the role of president perfect perfect a-plus a-plus no no a-plus no pettiness right no i mean i think he called kanye jackass once that's about it what might allegedly kanye wanted to be president he might have [ __ ] made trump be president well yeah that that white house correspondents dinner we [ __ ] on trump yeah and you see trump going there huh yes well i'm one thing you'll never be which is president united states everyone's laughing and he's just glaring at things yes yeah no that was a moment that's psychopath he took you up on that challenge but you take someone that has lack of empathy and doesn't really see the responsibility of the office and what he says and you combine that with that technology that's a that's a well you're asking a guy that's a dangerous combination it is you're asking a result of to change who he is at 73 right right you're out or 72 whenever what he was when he got in 71. i think he's 71 again you're asking a guy in his 70s to change who he is and and the thing that made him successful the reason why he was in all these rap songs like if you go back and listen to rap music in the 80s and 90s trump's name was thrown up all the time right he was that guy he was that guy with the big gold letters on his [ __ ] building yeah and fighting with rosie o'donnell and yes you're calling her a pig all that stuff all that stuff well that that was okay back then for some reason like he would call her terrible names on the conan o'brien show or because he was whatever television celebrity letterman yeah but he was famous for being that guy right so that guy became president and there's always a polarization there's always a group of people that hate the president because they didn't vote for him and they want him to [ __ ] up and they want him to fail they want everything that he's doing to be wrong yeah but remember when they got mad at obama for wearing a a tan suit yeah yeah it was like the greatest violation of the office and they made a big deal when he fist bumped his wife like why do you [ __ ] outrage why do you [ __ ] care about this i know he's got a nice suit on he looks good look good in that suit but it's but so so there's right there's trump as a figurehead which accelerates everything he's he's gasoline on an already raging wildfire he loves keeping the temperature at maximum he wants everything at a hot boil and if you really feel it you know that that's the thing of that office he could calm this situation down he could make you all relaxed because he knows how to do it he's even when he likes it he exists he's like the only one who's comfortable like you ever you ever go out with a girl who loves to fight yeah she's only comfortable because that's the way she was raised and they get mad if you don't want to fight back yes that's him that's him he wants to fight he'll bring [ __ ] up until you take the bait and there's a fight on and then they calm down and you're you're having a nervous breakdown so it's not all his fault though there's social media and the divide that comes and this is where the social dilemma comes in place yeah there's a divide that comes about because of the way they've engineered these algorithms which is really disturbing so whatever you're into it finds those things and accentuates them because it just wants you to stay on more it wants you to engage more she wants you to pay attention to the things now ari shafir did a little bit of a study on this a little bit of a test and he only youtubed puppies that's all he would youtube just youtube puppies just just to see what happened and all youtube would send him yeah as puppies right all they would all they would show him all they would suggest is puppies so this idea that their engineering outrage is a little disingenuous because what they're really doing is finding what you're interested in and people have been shown to pay attention to what they disagree with far more than what they agree with so that algorithm spits you things yeah you disagree with me exactly because you get engaged with that you get angry yeah which is that was a part of the movie it was showing how things that people disagree with things that make people upset right those are the things that people are much more likely to engage with you're like [ __ ] you [ __ ] liberals are [ __ ] you you [ __ ] racist everyone's racist you know it's like it's this thing that is a part of being a person where you seek especially when you don't feel like you're really you're being heard right when you're at home and you're sitting on the toilet and you're going through facebook and you see some [ __ ] about what the [ __ ] burn the flag you [ __ ] and you start you start making these messages you're more likely to do that than seeing some beautiful story about these parents that adopt this kid and they give him a home and he comes from a bad part of the world like that you're not gonna go good way to go for you let me write down all the amazing things about what you're doing isn't that terrible yeah you're gonna you're gonna get mad or if you're on the left you're going to get mad because of the wildfires you're going to blame on trump and climate change all these different things yeah you know like look gets your outrage going yeah i mean so many people think trump's responsible for the wildfires listen folks those [ __ ] fires were going to happen regardless of who is president now whether or not he is putting in policies it's going to protect people 10 20 years from now right that's a real argument yeah but the [ __ ] fires that are going on right now are not because of trump it takes a long time to turn that battleship yeah absolutely i mean it's not his fault and i'm not saying he's done good things for the environment this is what i'm saying he's not plotting a future that you think will help out these fires in the future right you do have to take into consideration well and here's the thing everybody's applauding newsome for saying that they're going to eliminate these uh gasoline-powered cars by 2035. finally you can't but here's the thing because you and i both have teslas but here's the thing those batteries don't come free you have to get lithium out of the ground i mean they're they're they're [ __ ] literally staging military coups there was a story about see see there's this is there was a thing there was a controversy because elon musk made a tweet and i think the tweet was something will coo whoever we want to or something crazy he was just responding to someone he was saying i think he was just like being joking around yeah yeah but people are saying here it is we will coo whoever we want elon musk and the overthrow of democracy and bolivia he probably shouldn't say that in line he's probably joking around but the idea is that lithium which is a primary component of batteries batteries you're gonna need a massive amount of that [ __ ] right and that [ __ ] is called conflict minerals conflict minerals one of the reasons why they call them that is because these [ __ ] minerals are in the congo they're they're in afghanistan they're in all these places that are you know it's it's there's a lot of people vying for them like china's trying to get into the congo diamonds yeah it's well it's a little sketchier than diamonds you get a whole lot more of it right and you need it to get better it's not like it's a free ride to get batteries yeah but you know you so you lose democracy in bolivia at least there's no more fires at least the air is better i don't think it works out everything's a little evil i don't think it works that way i think they got to figure out how to suck carbon on the air they have figured that out there's there's like small scale versions of these things that look like it looks like an air cleaner that's the size of a skyscraper oh yeah yeah they've talked about implementing these things to actually extract carbon from the atmosphere what about that soil documentary did you see that one where they it's all about that's [ __ ] terrifying like sucking like if you if you heal the soil you'll heal the earth well regenerative farming is the best way to heal the soil and there are some people that are experts on regenerative farming and regenerative farming is essentially what they're doing is farming the way they farmed thousands of years ago or hundreds of years ago the way you're supposed to like right ruminants animals eat grass they [ __ ] the manure actually brings these these uh these nutrients back into the earth and that acts as fertilizer for new plants to grow you rotate the crops and it's supposed to have a carbon neutral effect when it's done correctly the problem is we've adapted to this world where you want to pull in a jack in a box get a cheeseburger in five seconds yeah and that has got to be cheap meat and cheap meat comes from factory farming factory farming is universally regarded as [ __ ] disgusting horrible so that way you you've got trucks and you've got all this [ __ ] these animals and they're eating terrible food and it's it's all gross yeah like from top to bottom it's horrible horrible and there's a it's a new documentary on netflix so i forget the name of it woody kiss the ground kiss the ground really good because it's kind of one of those that actually gives you some hope you're like well this isn't that complex of a solution that could actually what is their solution what are they trying to do they're trying to uh regenerator farming yeah exactly the thing about regenerative farming though is i don't know if it will work at scale like we we had joel salatin on a few well we've had him on twice but we had him on a few months back and there's a guy who doesn't give a [ __ ] about coronavirus by the way oh really older fellow farmer healthy is just healthy as an ox drinks out of the trough where the cows drink because he says he gets that biome into his uh his gut he wants that he wants all the bacteria really yeah it doesn't wash his hands doesn't get that's why i feel comedians have kind of been strong because we're traveling or in front of all these people you're holding mics that are other grubby comedians are all that's the argument about prisoners you know yeah most prisoners are asymptomatic from coronavirus which is fascinating yeah yeah because they're just surrounded by germs all the time yeah you would think they're so stressed out like here they are in [ __ ] jail that's about as stressful as life gets oh god but they're they're everyone's coughing in everybody's mouth and they're fine but yeah i know your immune system you know it gets ramped up and it goes to work by the way what's going on with harvey weinstein he's fat and old and he got coronavirus when he was in jail yeah nobody heard a peep out of that guy yeah because he's probably he's probably in a house in the ham he never he's the one that started it all there was a rapper who just got sent back to jail for social distancing violation how about that sent back to jail sent back to jail yeah he he's he shot at chief keef you know that uh you can't be shooting him that's what i say um he shot at him though he didn't shoot him they sent him to jail then they released him because the coronavirus and they got uh pictures of him at a party having a good old time and there's like oh he's social distance violating so they put him back in jail what a dummy imagine that i didn't know you can go back to jail for violating social distancing rules well this seems like a special case perhaps i know right if you get out of jail for shooting at somebody because you might get a cold yeah i mean he's a young guy too they'll probably shake it off like that exactly just play by the rules just turn it down a notch if that was his lawyer i'd be like stay outside listen to me i know you like partying but do you have a mask yeah wear a mask when you party like a halloween mask yeah they were saying that yeah right exactly just put on a big thing yeah just pretend yeah yeah this is the dude takeshi 69x associate cuda b i like that name headed back to prison for party stunt well they're calling it party stunt they're calling it social distance violation what would you have even been sentenced yet apparently so he might have got out early while he was being held caught on tape partying with a large group of people in a brooklyn apartment soon after his april release manhattan federal judge called the decision to have a party after receiving social social distancing orders an astonishing stunt and he ordered kuda kuda to surrender to u.s marshals no later than 2 p.m october 15th so he's got some days to party so it's only the sixth homeboy's got nine days to [ __ ] have a good old time yes maybe we need face tattoos why i think all the cool kids got him no we're too old dude all right if you get a face tattoo and you're our age people frown upon that do they yeah they think you're suicidal you're losing your mind maybe you get a little nice little star on your cheek a little it's a little tiny one yeah yeah why not man like the nbc thing the more you know what if you've got your lips done like just real subtle like you came in your lips were darker i feel like what's going on with your lips tom what i don't know they were always this way like all of a sudden your lips look dark i don't know if you caught what he uh was in jail for by the way shot at chief keef he paid someone to oh wait according to mckenzie's confession takeshi six nine paid that guy right to shoot at chief keef but supposedly in an attempt to scare the rival rather than seriously injure him instead kuda opted to outsource the shooting to someone else but still pled guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon in aid of racketeering which is a maximum prison sentence of 20 years he's only 22 years old but likely spend the next couple of decades behind bars are they gang-related he was he has not yet been sentenced so he was being held with a bunch of other people who were like backed up in the court system oh so they let him out just like on bail on bail or something so like they're like well now you're not out on bail so come on you violate it he's going to jail for a long [ __ ] time i hope he got another face tattoo before he went in he should have got a raft and gone to cuba [Laughter] did you escape like if you had to go on the run okay you get busted for something maybe you didn't do it but the fuzz is coming for you would it be possible to escape the law for the rest of your life nowadays i was talking to a man who knows things and he was telling me that there is technology that they're working on that's going to let them hear fully clear completely crystal clear conversations from satellites uh-huh you mean person to person i mean you in your house having a conversation with your wife they're going to be able to hear you from a satellite they're just tuned into your house they're going to be so bored i'm sure they will be but not if they tune into chief keith's house they're going to find some crazy [ __ ] going on but these really likes yes i don't think so like with gps they can pinpoint a house yes and listen to that conversation no one's hiding that's my point right like they're closing in on everything and you're going to get to the point where there's not going to be there's no hiding it's like that tom cruise movie minority report yeah yeah right like when i saw that movie it was like oh yeah this is all definitely coming like right they were trading eyeballs because that was like uh future crime right they catch you right now you did something before you did something yeah well if you really believe in determinism you know you real if you could get a computer you could devise a computer that's so powerful that it could accurately anticipate individual events crisscrossing and compiling together to create a specific result and you knew they would force someone's hand to do something i mean it's not completely outside of the realm of possibility that one day at least they could figure it like they could figure out a likelihood of things happening right yeah yeah and then where are you going to run bolivia yeah going anywhere bro come on you could go to the ocean just keep walking into the ocean until you stop breathing i don't want to go to jail like what was it when that when you rat on the mafia you got to go into a house in arizona they did that for a while was it relocation or yeah witness relocation yeah witness protection yeah witness protection right we had that worked right we showed sammy the bowl gravano did that he's got a podcast now he's i don't think he's supposed to do that yeah he's third next to hillary clinton she's two michelle obama's number one number one what can we just ratings he should be on a podcast no witness protection you would think but yeah like takeshi six and i just said he's like i'm coming out he ratted on people yeah but what is he doing is he in witness protection at all nope he's out in new york making music videos passing like he was literally on the street corner passing out of cds with i guess he just had something how come nobody hustles i'll give him that but he's had to move his spot he said he's had houses where he got ratted on sure of course they're going to ride on him he's a wrap you're a rat i don't know he's very popular yeah but how long before he runs out of money like that it costs a lot of money to have that kind of security keep making it yeah keep coming up with some new beats if you're gonna get a face tattoo what kind of tattoo would you get uh if i was to get a face tattoo i would get uh i don't know a little booger right underneath my nose no be serious maybe a tattooed tear scare everybody off pretend you killed me yeah let people think i killed people no then then gang members would be like no you didn't and they'd come get me that's true good call you don't want troubles maybe don't cause trouble yeah i'm telling a little star on your cheeks i like the start right here right in the upper cheekbone area it's a little tiny star what did papa do answer questions too convicted rapist harvey weinstein to face new sex crimes charges oh boy 11 counts in california this is london's council of sexual assault in the state of california where extradition proceedings have been put on hold due to the pandemic eleven counts oh yeah three more accounts i guess got added to three more counts of rape and other sexual crimes involving two women he's already serving 23 years and he's got to put a suit on and go defend himself more geez do you think if you left a gun in his cell he would just blow his brains out yeah because he doesn't think he's getting out at this point these charges keep piling up god is he in jail jail or oh he's in rikers bro he's in rikers yeah yeah he got covered when he was in jail and they didn't send him home [ __ ] him get healthy no that's does he's not at rikers but he is ed in jail somewhere wasn't he in rikers though at one point maybe before he got sent to the wendy correctional facility max security can i knew you're working your buffalo man oh man yeah and cosby's in jail yeah but you ever remind yourself of that as you're going about through your day bill cosby yeah that's such a he's only in jail for a short amount of time is he yeah which is interesting he's only in jail for i believe he's in jail for one of those things that he did uh-huh i believe for a short amount of time i don't think he's in jail for very long i think he's in jail for like ten years or something is that what it is he says three to ten in state prison yeah three to ten so he'll be so he could get out on parole and still be alive but he's like he's almost blind too next year would be cool next year september 25th 2018. he still wanted man he did anything god hold strong yeah yeah he seems insane yeah he seems completely insane like he was out at a barber shop before he went they put him in and uh i don't know if he was on parole or on appeal or i'm not on pro on bail or on appeal but he was uh at a barber shop like uh with these guys and they made a video of it it's it's so strange because he's acting as if nothing happened bill cosby interviewed he expects to serve full 10-year sentence rather than say sorry wow jeez so he's just at the barber shop like acting like he wasn't going he was holding court that's what he was recording the barbershop and these guys and they were talking about like bands like what guy was in what band and yeah and they were doing talking trivia and [ __ ] he's probably doing the same thing in jail i wonder i bet i bet he's i bet he's got a lot of fans in jail i wonder how he's treated there you know yeah i'm sure he is that's him at the barbershop play some of that give me some volume the original okay so it is so he's got that sweater on that says hello friend he's talking jazz yeah yes that's alonzo broden's older brother come on tell me that guy doesn't look like alonzo boden's other brother hey yeah [Music] hold he's talking about jasmine scroll who who made this this post that's bill cosby bill cosby hangs out demarco's hair artistry and they have to put in quotes barbershop in brackets in yesterday with friends january 21st 2018. look at his hashtags go eagles philadelphia wow that's crazy that's weird wow god what a weird story man oh man so he thinks that it was just uh he was just with some ladies that's his in his head right dude when i was on news radio we heard about him yeah we had heard about him drugging people you did yeah it was a rumor it was always a rumor it was always a thing that people had heard they knew someone who knew someone they knew something was always out there so when hannibal burris was on stage and he was talking about that that was not something that was unknown no i mean he said in a set right just google it yeah and then that's what starts it all which is just bananas one set that someone films on their phone yeah gets up on youtube and everybody's like wait what and everybody outside the industry woke up goes cosby cosby bill cosby like the cosby show like america's dad right like the jello pudding guy that guy the adorable guy oh i wish you could read a person in 2014 yeah when that happened with hannibal yeah i wish you could read a person's mind yeah like i really want i really want to know i want to know it sounds like those satellites are going to do it they're going to hear you hear your words yeah but i think i don't think we're too many decades away from being able to actually read your mind you think someone was convicted of a crime in india back in the day we covered this when i did that uh joe rogan questions everything show because of fmri fmri is a functional magnetic imagery and the i think that's the right terms but basically it's uh it's reading the mind in reading like patterns and they decided that this person i think might have been a woman was convicted of a crime because they had functional knowledge of the crime scene now this was this was in another country i believe it was in india and i talked to a neuroscientist in america and they said you would never accept this in america because functional knowledge of a crime scene could be obtained by just examining evidence like if you were charged if someone charged you with a murder said tom i know you killed that guy and you're like what and then they show you the photos like you would have access to the information yeah if you have that in your head like thinking oh my god someone killed this person and now they're blaming on me how could they think i did it and you could possibly have functional knowledge of where it happened and what happened just based on someone describing to you what you've been charged with how do you find out if someone has functional knowledge i don't really know just like in it you know in italy people were charged that um were seismologists because they didn't warn people in time for an earthquake that took place yeah because they're italians hey they don't know they don't know better so they charge people and now in america you could never charge a size small i believe that's right see if that's true if that was in italy i'm asking you to go live so may or may not be real it seems like so so like early like other century like she's a witch yes she does that's why it rained she's a witch actual you know seismologists and scientists all over the world were aghast because like well you can't [ __ ] charge people with not warning you about something that's utterly unpredictable italian seismologists cleared of manslaughter okay so they weren't charged they came to their senses six scientists did not cause deaths in 2009 but what's crazy is that that actually went to court so these poor guys had defend themselves in court that they should have known that this earthquake was coming this is the whole world isn't it that's very old spaghetti the [ __ ] earth starts moving the earthquake that guy's how much i pay that guy how much i pay him who's the guy with the geiger counter what is it get him how come he don't know we're both italian we can get away with talking like he should have told me but do you know i look at like a uh famous uh italian film star who carlo verdone how much do you look like i'm like could you go over there i got into a taxi cab in rome and this kid fell out like 22 year old kid was just like he's in my cab verdony's in my cab and he called his family oh my god he made me get on the phone with him oh my god that's pretty close right what do you think i think it's insulting you should be mad that guy looks like he's 10 years older than you and he's gonna die tomorrow well he is older but he's like he's a [ __ ] father he's one of the good guys make that face what's in the bowl [ __ ] that one's pretty close that's pretty close that's pretty give me a smile with your lips closed oh wow is it close very very this kid lost his mind he's like we're done he's like it took me the whole ride to convince my wife someone didn't have a phone on them where they couldn't google the actual verdoni look you could probably pull it off right right i bet we can go find him i like that one with the pointing at you the glasses like he's a badass yeah that's me and my [Applause] [Music] that's you bro i wish i spoke italian well you could learn it's not that hard it's not like you want to breathe underwater the lazy i wish i could do something that i don't do right now that other people do easily i don't think my brain can handle it do you think you can learn a whole language right now yes i could no way of course i could i don't want to but of course well you're living your life here not going over to italy and yes you could it would just require a lot of time to be a real reason for you to do it right like if i had a wife and she was a talent she was talking a lot of [ __ ] you don't i was just the way you said it though you don't need to learn the whole language like we don't know the whole english language we know a good portion of it and how to talk with it but we don't know almost thing talk with it apparently russian is a really hard one to learn i took that in uh freshman year in college it's not as hard as you think but what about the writing it no they just have a little a couple blocky letters but uh despidanes uh it's not as complicated yeah there's something about it that's they say that english is much harder than no russian yeah like learning it the other way is really that's interesting so russians have a hard time learning english english can learn russian better right right i only took it for a semester and the guy let you take the test as many times as you needed to pass but really it wasn't that mind-blowing yeah really i would think just the language itself the written language be really hard it's really cool it's [ __ ] cool looking yeah it is really cool my daughter is studying italian in college yeah and it's like every day you have to take it five days a week it's pretty immersive oh that's how you learn it yeah that's the move right if you go to an immersion school and you have to teach they teach every class in the language and they don't speak any english to you yeah yeah or go live in rome pretend kids went to a spanish immersion school oh yeah yeah and they learned it yeah you just learn you know you speak spanish you do it all the time yeah just that thing that's so funny i wish i could learn something that other people know it is lazy but well listen i'm busy you could do it a lot of stuff going on it would require many hours a day many days in a row probably for years before you got adept at it yeah and you it could be done but how long until i was uh like a get by on a trip i don't know i can't i can't speak another language i have no idea you know there's those rosetta stone commercials they promise yeah you get like fairly good at it in like 90 days or something but yeah i think you have to put a lot of time into it yeah i think you're better than anything else being retired what is the other thing with the brain like that if you learn it when you're like 14 it's much easier than when you're 50. i think it's younger i think it's really young when you're really young kids i mean you think about how quick kids speak english yeah right like uh my daughter one of my daughters was speaking really young she was at one years old she's speaking in full sentences it was really weird like she's really smart yeah but one years old she would ask me questions daddy what is this and why is that and this isn't right right there is that one one imagine you speaking full italian in one year yeah that'd be crazy that would be crazy man that would be fun though yeah i just want to be able to handle myself in a restaurant yeah like really well be able to talk about the wine google has these earbuds that will trans they will translate languages in real time oh yeah yeah so with this google app you can someone can talk to you as long as they speak clearly like clear enough for like it to transcribe they will be able to say it back to you in real time yeah we'll be able to or you can no ken i'm pretty sure it's the pixel pixel buds pixel uh earbuds see if that's pretty cool that's true yeah that's really good you know it's interesting right like there's arguments for both android and apple and uh one of the arguments for apple or one of the arguments for android rather here it is where it is yeah how to trigger then say help me speak spanish to launch conversation mode on the translate app when you're ready to speak to someone in another language press and hold the earbud and speak in your native language good afternoon what are the menu specials today when the person responds the translated message will play directly into your pixel buds to learn more visit the google pixel bugs help that ain't working that's he talks and it's enough for you to make a drug transaction i can't even get it cocaine i there is not one time when i transcribe just in my english to my text where it nails it well google is better yeah they're much better at it yeah and this i i use uh my apple i have an apple phone and i have an android phone oh you do my apple phone is my primary phone and i use my android phone more to [ __ ] around with than anything but i'm [ __ ] around with a few things on it and one of the things is how well it picks up your voice and how well it transcribes it so here's the argument right apple is much better with your privacy they're much better with your privacy like when you use apple maps it's not sending your data to anyone but it's one of the reasons why apple maps is not as good google maps are better because they're sharing it it's just better they just it's they're getting data constantly from you they're getting data from all the other drivers they're sharing that data they're compiling that data and they're also sending ads your way to profit off of this to make it profitable so because of that because google is just sucking up data constantly they can provide you with better services so they have an amazing search engine they have but that was one of the things about the social dilemma the search engine gives different results based on where you are like say if you type they use an example climate change like you write climate change is it might say a hoax or climate change is a terrible threat depending on where you live like you're just where you are right it might give you one thing but if you live in waco texas it might give you another thing yeah and it's based on what it thinks you want to see that's crazy it's not good that's not good that's why reinforcing people's dumb ideas that's why i use duckduckgo duckduckgo does not do any of that stuff and it also it gives you things it's it it doesn't send your data somewhere it protects your privacy so you put climate change is on duckduck no i put chicks with dicks well no one knows no one knows i got a burner phone you put whatever you want it just yeah the results are not curated right so it's just giving you the most applicable results for the things that you're looking for but it's not doing it in a way or it's curating it for your own interest like if you try to find things that are controversial we've tried to find that on the podcast before where jamie will google something and i'll know it to be correct but google will not show that it's correct because maybe the correct answer is not politically correct so you have to go through several pages and maybe you even have to google it in a very specific way to get to the heart of the science behind what's wrong with the consensus opinion the consensus opinion might be wrong like that's the case with a lot of nutrition things it's the case with a lot of a lot of things regarding like anything controversial anything where you where there's a political motive to sway the argument one way or the other it's so amazing how deep you have to dive to cross-reference stuff yeah to really try and assemble a truthful opinion it's it's so hard so with all this stuff like do you do the and you have all these people from twitter and google and stuff who are saying like what we did or facebook that was horrible and yeah we really kind of f things up do they feel like they can also correct this problem i don't know if you can put the the cap on the bottle i don't i don't know i don't know if you can do that i don't know if they know it either because they didn't think it was going to happen in the first time remember jack dorsey was testifying i think it was before congress and um he was saying that 12 years ago when we created twitter we had no idea that this was going to be a situation that we had to anticipate we no no one ever saw this coming and if you go back and yeah see the early twitter when you would remember you would do the at it would always show your name in front of every tweet yeah so be like at tom papa is having pizza like you would say what you were doing it was really weird like how people would use twitter yeah you know um but it was like not political it was just fun yeah people just like no one knew what to do with it and then somewhere along the line people started figuring out hitting arguments i know it's so bad we just always ruin everything it could be so great i remember when it first came out it was like wow there would probably never have been slavery if there had been twitter because people would have exposed it so early and just seemed so hopeful but of course all the scummy people get it and then just it makes people scummy too because it makes people more polarized it makes people more aggressive in um reinforcing their idea what the truth is yeah and trying to stop other people and you're seeing so much suppression of other people's uh opinions and expression today which is so strange yeah it's just it's one of the weirdest times ever to to look at the way human beings communicate yeah because of the tension we were talking about this earlier we never really finished the thought but you got trump then you get the pandemic and you get the economic collapse you have all these things happening so people are they're desperate they're sad and then you've got looting and you've got the riots and you get racial tension you've got violence you've got this anti-police sentiment which also leads to more instability in the streets you more instability in in the cities and less safety and fear fear fear of fear of police fear of gangs fear fear of antifa fear of white supremacists fear of everything it's like all this [ __ ] fear yeah and and then you have people arguing online yeah really literally addicted people yeah people were addicts right exactly they're just as addicted as people who are gambling addicts just as addicted to people that are sex addicts they're addicted to twitter and they're arg they're mentally ill people and they're constantly engaging in conflict right and they're coming up on people's posts and you don't know that you're interacting with mentally ill people yeah or or people from other countries that are trying to incite it assume you're interacting with mentally unwell people because almost everyone who's using it in that way is it in one way or another mentally ill or you put your phone in the drawer and you go to the park and all of a sudden you get chimes down and then there's no cops because you wanted to defund the police everything calms down and goes away because you're not in you're not living in this weird reality you're just living in real life and you're not participating in all of that that's what we'd all hope for the problem is there's so many people that are doing it yeah whether they're doing it on facebook or twitter or arguing whatever things they're arguing about it's it's spilling out into the real world right you're in the park being all zen and all of a sudden a flash mob shows up that organized on twitter and you're like what the hell is happening here it was just all zen a minute ago so one thing that i wanted to bring up we talked about before the podcast that i actually read a whole article about we were talking about on the podcast whether or not chris cuomo was really lifting a 100 pound barbell now i had completely forgot we even talked about this until i stumbled upon an article online about it and in the article it actually referenced us talking about it on the podcast right and uh apparently he wasn't they think i'm quite stupid for believing that chris cuomo really had this uh 100 pound barbell or dumbbell that he was lifting it looked very light it did look very light but so my thought was how big is chris cuomo uh so that's a good point i thought he was bigger than he is so i googled it yeah he's only 182 pounds which uh it says he's six to 182 pounds i don't know if that's accurate that's yeah that that's probably 62 180 well he doesn't look that lean thin guy he doesn't look like that but anyway that makes him 20 pounds lighter than me okay so very unlikely that he's carrying that dumbbell right like that so then i'm like okay i got to ask some people who would actually know so um i i sought out some people online and uh one of them was uh rob kearney he's been on the podcast before he's uh world's strongest gay oh yeah i know that guy he's awesome follow him love that dude and uh i think he won recently a pound-for-pound strongman title because he's he's not a big guy he's a he's a tank tank but he's only about 510 maybe um but [ __ ] gorilla strong so um so he says to me uh so i say to him have you ever seen the thing and he says i just watched the video i think it's fake lol he doesn't look to be bracing hard enough for it to be actually a hundred pounds good point he is kind of wishy-washy in his seat he's he's a real expert right so he's an actual strong man so uh i'm pretty convinced so then i asked robert oberst who's in all also i mean robert is [ __ ] enormous absolutely one of the strongest men in the world he's a goliath sitting next to him 300 plus pounds oh geez so he says the picture looks possible because his elbow's up and stable but the video where he's at his desk showing the weight off he moves it around out at an angle that would be the smallest head of the top of the bicep taking all the weight and it doesn't even faze him said if it's real he's stronger than anyone i've ever seen use a dumbbell i'd say it's a 40 pound weight with a 100 pounds written on it he said lots of insta-famous lifters have fake dumbbells and plates ah two x kearney and robert oberst both of them call [ __ ] so i refer to i defer to them wow it does when he's sitting in the chair at the desk there it looks very light but i saw he's 182 and that might not be true because i bet if you go google what my weight is they probably don't know what my weight is either 100 pounds is a lot but 182 pounds for a man who's six foot two is not a gorilla like brendan schaub okay if brendan shaw was doing that i'd go i bet he could do that brendan shaw brennan's job is 270 pounds 260 plus pounds yeah he's huge he's huge yeah but even then like he just seems light it seems like it's wiggles yeah i obviously didn't look at it close enough and i also i don't i'm not a lifter in that sense like i don't i don't lift heavy weights uh-huh like the heaviest [ __ ] i ever lift is like i might squat a couple of hundred pounds for reps but most of the [ __ ] i do is kettlebells right so i'm doing like the heaviest ones i do are like 90 pounds or maybe and that's rare usually i use like a 70 pound kettlebell or 50 pound kettlebell depending upon the exercise they're not heavy right i'm doing like uh functional movements that use your full body right so i'm not in that lifting world but if you wanted to talk to like um you'd have to talk to like like ct fletcher you have to talk to those power lifter dudes who really understand those are the ones so it's a little uncomfortable that i'm sitting right in front of you and i'm not in the list of people that you're asking because on my peloton there are three and a half pound weights that sit on the back of the seat and once in a while you have to take those out and curl them sometimes two in one hand mind you and it is quite a workout okay so he's 200 pounds he says he went from 218 pounds to a pretty lean 200 pounds he cut out uh said he cut out about [ __ ] cut dairy and bad sugar 2014 cutback booze so he's 200 pounds his body fat plummeted to 12 percent okay so he's dialed in on his stuff though right but he's he's taller than me and he's uh he's my weight he's not there's no way he's handling that weight like that i can't handle that weight like that can we see the video i'm [ __ ] jack son oh man i wish i didn't have my jacket on i would be show me what's up show me what's up roy jones jr flexed his arm in that uh chair he has two of mine does he really on his left it's crazy his left arm is so much bigger than his right because he's got like probably one of the best left hooks not probably one of the best left hooks a human being's ever thrown oh my god so his left bicep is gigantic it's so much bigger than his right he was joking around about it but when he flexed you're like jesus good lord just like uh alien head in there yeah see there it is he does have shoulders yeah well that move when he does that well that's not that's kind of braced that's a hundred pounds that's so heavy yeah 100 pounds this is this is where i'm less go back to when he's doing the little hammer curls this is where i'm less likely to believe this one right here when he's doing that he's not even straining there's no strain at all in his back yeah everything looks too light yeah it just doesn't look wow again i don't know [ __ ] this is not my world i could show you a video of a guy about like the bradley martin that dude off youtube right doing like 120 pound dumbbells oh great struggling right right of course and brad he's a giant who is bradley martin show bradley martin yeah let me see bradley martin takes girls he puts like weights on bars and then has girls hang on the bars and he [ __ ] impresses them he's enormous he's a youtube famous lifter right but all complete look at this he's cleaning and pressing a girl but but the dude is like was like six three six four yeah 270 easy oh my god enormous he's a huge man he's he's a huge legitimately huge man yeah so he's struggling there's a video of him on there with a hundred pound dumbbells well i get might be looking at that with that barb look at that when he's when he's doing dead lifts oh my god the size of this [ __ ] so much weight on the bar that you look at him and you go oh okay oh that shit's real as [ __ ] as people always say it's fake look at the barbie this guy doesn't have to fake anything listen ain't no faking going on right there that's look at the way that weight is moving when you see the size of him too he's it all makes sense but his tricep doesn't wiggle when he points at something but it's nice that i could ask like everybody's you know you wonder about stuff like that you look at him doing that like is that real and then you ask experts and the experts are like uh-uh that is pretty good oh burst and rob those [ __ ] know yeah that's that's pretty badass but what kind of a person would fake await do you think people give him fake weights imagine if they wanted you to look like a [ __ ] like hey move this weight around like what is that 100 pounds you're like hey take a video of this show everybody how strong it is his assistant was trying to get brownie points right maybe maybe he doesn't know maybe he doesn't know maybe his assistants are just doing it to make him feel good there was a guy who was uh i was like a royal some royal guy or something yeah but he would uh play pool with guys and they would pay the guys to lose and so he would this guy would enter into uh pool tournaments yeah and and like and he was okay yeah he was a decent player but guys are like blow shots on purpose like you could tell like someone had paid their walking around thinking he killed the jungle i thought he was the [ __ ] he's the girl greatest basketball player so weird but apparently this is one of the things that rob kearney was telling me is that there is a whole culture i'll pull up the dude's name there's a whole culture of people online who do this with fake weights and that's probably why uh he was uh talking about that right yeah like fake followers and fake weights and people just trying to get some cred on so this is this is the guy brad castleberry okay i know who that i follow him i know he is i i've seen him get called out for the fake weight thing i don't know how oh really he does because he's a he's a monster as well right exactly he's a monster as well he's a monster and he's still yeah he's huge but those legs yes but apparently people have asked him to do now this is according to my friends in the power lifting world apparently people have asked him to to show up at meats and do this stuff why am i seeing his butt cheeks i don't know he's in his underpants not comfortable with that why is he in the center so not necessary so not necessary for him to share that while he's squatting world's [Laughter] rob needs to show the way rob's a married man he's not interested in your butt cheeks sir there that's a real problem in that world apparently is like people who fake weights which is real weird people are so shitty they don't they fake everything they think how many followers they have they fake how much weight they've got i think yeah i know someone who fake followers yeah this is him lifting i think so how to spot fake weights why how can they spot it what does this what are they saying how do you know that's fake i guess they're saying how he held it which i mean maybe like oh i don't know i know the power lifters get deep into this too because of what you're saying they're so cool so what do you think they do they put like one fake one one real one one fake one one real one like stack them or something like that right they want some resistance and here's the other question that looks like a public gym so how are you getting them fake weights into that gym you're not that's the thing i followed him online for a while yeah i've seen people call him out who for years brad castleberry because he's like always been like a 24-hour fitness so i guess he's bringing in stacks of fake plates because yeah yeah right you just take a picture of them yeah exactly that that would spread it's just such a weird world the world of how much can you lift yeah well they're so into it right well these guys aren't learning italian see that looks real man look at that bar bending that's fake they're saying that's fake i i this video is about how to spot it so like we're not oh we're not listening right yeah they might be saying that's legit it's a weird word i don't know how much i can lift how about that how much do you bench i don't bench i can spend 250. it's a good move scare people off i don't know but don't remember nobody take your jacket off that's why i wear the jacket i want to intimidate people i don't want anybody to know yeah um when you sent me a picture of a fat comedian and you said don't end up like this no did i did i do that yeah how fat was he he was pretty porky did he have a shirt off on stage and i must have been like at a teetering teetering weight at the time oh we discussing weight loss that would have maybe a little trying to encourage you by fat shaming you yeah well sending you lean it worked listen um i have food for you back in l.a but i gotta get you in touch with my security guy he'll get you into the studio and i'll give you some elk meat it's the only meat i eat yeah because i'm gonna have to well i got one this year already uh-huh i'm gonna have to ship some of that meat back out here soon oh man so so get a cooler you gotta do you have a freezer at your house no i just have this tiny fridge in the garage maybe we should get a freezer if you get a commercial freezer i could fill it really yeah yeah i'm the only one that eats meat in my house really so sad it's me and the dog that's why you're the man that's right that's why you dominate are they all tired and sleepy all the time yes they're anemic are they no joke really yes that's sad yes they won't eat meat and it's so like the no do they want do they not eat meat for health reasons because obviously that's not working or is it uh it was an animal thing animal sympathy empathy yeah they just love the animals and you should show my way of taught my daughters the same what happens to elk if you don't eat them if what happens to them yeah yeah wolves eat them they're not here you eat them oh yeah of course of course and it's funny because you're saying they're not opposed to they're not opposed to the dog eating meat well that's good you don't want the dog to die like like they they literally ask like is there any meat around like because i'll make it and like i'll make a steak and then there's always some left over and she's like encouraging it now because the dog showed up in our life and right and she eats meat so do they go crazy that is one of the best things you should feed your dog liver oh yeah oh my god marshall my dog marshall you'll meet later today is the sweetest dog the world's ever known yeah loves everybody but the wolf in him comes out when he smells liver oh really he has this like wild eyed look when you feed him liver he's like twitchy like give him pieces of liver because it's so packed it's in his dna understands that liver is like the number one thing that's the best thing to get that's so great when one kills an alpha the alpha eats the liver oh really yeah it's that's marshall with a little bird i found him he wasn't paying attention i was calling him and he wasn't paying attention and i see him staring out the window and there's a little bird that i think i think the bird flew into the window oh it's hard conked himself yeah and so the birds are sitting there and marshall's just tweaking hard oh man staring at this bird but he eventually the little birdie eventually flew off but marshall's instinct man yeah my my sister has uh has two dogs two hounds and uh she's had a chicken coop forever and the chicken in there is like 12 years old like an old chicken that's old yeah and she still was producing eggs kind of you know it's just part of the family in a way it's just been there forever and the dogs and somehow someone left something open and those hounds ripped her apart yep just lived with it like for years no problem no nothing as soon as they had the opportunity can't help themselves they could not help themselves my dog johnny actually broke through the chicken coop he figured out a way to get inside the chicken coop and he went on a rampage oh they killed like yeah eight or nine of them i forget oh my god by the time i got to him there's just bodies all over the place ugh but i had at that time i think i had 20 plus chickens so there were so many chickens for him to kill it took a while for me to figure out what was going on my wife screamed out why is johnny in the chicken coop i'm like [ __ ] and i ran out there and grabbed them oh man or like because it's just uh they don't they just kill him he's well fed that's why yeah just for fun it was just for shits and girls yeah just having fun terriers killing the rats but did i tell you the whole story about him where he was talked into killing chickens by a coyote talked into it yeah man they had to sit down in the bar there's a there's a thing that happens with coyotes that's really amazing they're clever they're clever in a very specific way this is what was happening my my chickens when female chickens don't have a rooster they lay eggs but the eggs never become baby chicks right so this is what people don't know that are vegetarians like you can eat eggs guilt-free because eggs will never become a chicken right like like people want to look at it like you're doing some harm to the chicken right but if you have pets chickens as pets and you just let them free range they run around they eat bugs they eat grass they eat all these different things they give you this incredibly nutritious eggs and you don't have to worry like there's no bad karma no one's getting hurt they just popping out eggs but every now and then the chicken will decide that this egg is going to it's going to hatch and they'll molt and i think it's called brooding that's what it's called and they'll start picking their feathers off their body so that they can have skin on the egg and they won't get off that egg and you come near them they peck at you they want to preserve that egg because they in their head they're confused as to why they're not having chicks right their little dinosaur brain so i had to take them and i would separate them from the other chicks and you had to put them in a smaller container where they couldn't sit on the thing so you had to put a perch so when you put them in a container with a perch then their legs clutch on the perch and they sit there in a smaller chicken coop and then they would eventually get over it and then you can let them back in they would act normal again but otherwise they would damage themselves they'd peck at themselves and it was real weird that is weird when you say they decide does that mean that the all eggs could and they just picked this one out no no no no they have a feeling like this one is going to have it no no no eggs can ever become a chick gotcha the only way an egg can be a chick is if there's a rooster got you so if these chickens these female chickens which by the way i didn't know until i was 40. yeah i'm sorry i thought they just [ __ ] had an egg and the egg became a chicken you were eating it before it became a chest yeah that's what i thought i was that's why you get a feather in it i put zero thought into it um until we had chickens and then we realized that this is brooding thing where they have to hold on to the so you have to basically take them if you don't do it they'll go through a full cycle like 30 days of brooding and they won't lay any other eggs and it's like they get real weird right right but they also they they damage themselves they pluck all their feathers out and [ __ ] but if you take them and you put them in this small container for a number of days like i forget how many days it is they'll eventually get over it then they act normal again so we did that and i put this smaller container on the outside of the larger chicken coop right because it for whatever reason i didn't bring it inside i just put it outside of there the coyote became friends with johnny cash johnny cash was a mastiff and he's a [ __ ] tank right he's you know 140 pounds head like a fire hydrant dumb as [ __ ] right the coyote was super clever and the coyote was his friend so the coyote would hop the fence and hang out with him and he had to decide because the coyote was way too small to eat him yeah the coyote is only probably 35 pounds sure but the coyote got him convinced that they're buddies so the coyote would come visit and johnny would see it outside the fence and so one day somebody left the gate open where in my the way the house was set up the the dog could stay on one side and the chicken coop was on the other side so i didn't have to worry about him because he's so strong he could literally go through the chicken coop which he eventually did he pulled the chicken wire apart and just slaughtered in there but before he did that the coyote convinced him to go to the box where that one chicken was and knock it over so i am sitting there and uh we were playing games we were playing like sorry or something with my family and i look out the window and i see this [ __ ] coyote with a chicken in its mouth running across my yard and bounces over my fence like it doesn't exist i mean it's like oh you can't believe how graceful they are i know six foot fence just like this bing bing bong gone with a chicken in his mouth i'm running out chasing him you [ __ ] and then i go over and i'm like how did he get the chicken and then i go over to where the chicken coop is and somebody had let johnny over that side and he's destroyed the chicken coop the small coop and he's looking at me like hey bad hey what's up what the [ __ ] did you do and then i realized oh my god the coyote tricked him into knocking this thing over and then it stole the chicken because it was hanging out with him the coyote told me you'd want me to knock it barking at the coyote he wasn't acting like the coyote was an intruder in his mind the coyote was like my other dog was like his friend right right they were buddies let's do this come on exactly like he didn't even know what it was what do you want me to do you want me to knock that over i'll knock that over boom and joe said i should do it shatters this box and the cat is like thanks sucker point it just bounces over your face smart but i was i mean i spent the rest of the day going like what did it do yeah how did it know that he could do that right like how did it probably or did it just think maybe we'll work together and we can do it did it know look how big that thing is i think that thing could probably break this did it understand it does it sizes that my wife was walking we have a new dog in the house we have a pug named frank oh new addition to the house when'd you get frank um like four weeks ago i rescued it my daughter my one daughter went to school and my other daughter replaced her with a pug and my wife was walking the black lab bella and frank the pug and she's just walking them you know on the sidewalk and she ran into a coyote in the middle of the street coyote pretty big one and she said she was making noise trying to get it off and she said he wasn't moving he was just watch he was like sizing up kind of what you're saying yeah looking at frank this little edible pug but seeing my wife in this black lab and he she said he was just trying to figure out what he could do yeah what could he do and my wife was making a lot of noise trying to push him away eventually he went there's your little place oh yeah there's frank come in a little face it's a great name for he's adorable yeah he's pretty great they're not that bright yeah well they eat those things all day long yeah coyotes snatch those up from yards all day long it's a fun dog name to be like come on frank like you're talking to a guy from the 50s you heard of frank sinatra yeah frank sinatra johnny cash isn't frank great talking to frank is great yeah yeah ah what are you doing frank frank frank not in the office he looks like a frank frank [Laughter] we've never had a pug before oh really they're cute dogs yeah a little face look at that face look at them hilarious they're not that bright gotta keep him away from [ __ ] coyotes yeah coyotes is gonna are gonna come and take it maria bamford uh great comedian great comedian great comedian she adopts pugs she has like five at a time and only adopts them like at 10 years old like the end of their life when people aren't caring for them it's how big heart is for her how big-hearted she is she brings them in and cares for them to the end of their life whitney has about 100 dogs at her [ __ ] house does she really she's always got dogs she's always adopted and just sent me pictures look at this new dog i got like [ __ ] how many dogs you have i went to her house i did a backyard i saw the stand-up thing tim dillon people were criticizing her for that backyard stand-up show she tested everybody oh please they're all comics everybody wore masks yeah and she was people were like you're putting people at risk oh snooze fest professional comedians were saying that what yes which ones no ones with money that don't worry about making a living that don't want anybody to do any dates at all even if it's just fun oh shut your trap oh it's so gross is that your truth this whole risk shaming thing oh my god exactly she's a great people at risk that was another thing in the article sorry to go way back to the pandemic another thing that uh countries that have done things well they don't shame people into their actions if you give them the information and let them act on their own it well you got to take twitter away if you shame them and and yell at them and we're better than you and you tell them what to do and you're going to shame the [ __ ] out of them then they all rebel you make trumpers right you'll rebel you're like don't tell me what to do exactly yeah well that's human nature man oh please those people are gross let people go perform i went and performed in uh in uh portland has anybody given you any grief for doing shows no wait till after the show they will have them they're coming for you they're coming for you yeah talk to me about the waitresses that were almost losing their apartments and are back at work talk to me about the people that are subsiding their uh uh anxiety by going finally getting out of the house and hearing comedians listen i'm with you i think you should be able to take risks we are almost seven months into this thing yeah and the idea that you're supposed to stay home until there's a cure is [ __ ] insane it's insane it's not it's untenable it doesn't make any sense and obviously it's to go you can navigate it you can navigate these waters you can do it safely you wear a mask you take care of your health you take vitamin d zinc and vitamin c drink a lot of water get a lot of rest and whatever's good for you get tested if you're vulnerable and you don't want to go you don't go but if uh if the me if the governor of that state says it's okay and the mayor says it's okay and the club owner is doing all the right things and the staff is there and the people show up we've all decided as a collective that this is okay we're adults right if we're out there bungee jumping or riding bulls or any other dangerous activities we should be able to do that and the other argument the argument against that of course is that you're gonna transmit it to someone else don't [ __ ] do that okay if you get yourself tested if you have a vulnerable person in your household don't do anything risky that's right but you can be tested now it is possible you can find out a hundred percent and trump kicked it he's fat and he's 74. need to get on the same [ __ ] they put the rock on yeah when he was doing fast and the furious can you imagine run through walls the rock got covered and he was uh one of the most difficult things me and my family have ever been through meanwhile you're like come on son come on you look great i've been watching your instagram the whole time yeah you never even come out i'm even flinch he didn't even cough you never stop posting one of the most difficult things my family and i have ever done i i'm a giant rock fan i love that guy he is jacked holy he's so inspirational he's the way he's getting after it if you're lazy there's three people you need to go look at cameron haynes david goggins and the rock go pay attention to those they will get you off your [ __ ] lazy ass they sure will and people think oh that's frivolous like listen it's not it's mental strength is an important thing to have yeah and it's something that you can you you can you can grow you can you can cultivate it it's a thing that you see in other people you admire it and a lot of people they like to pretend they don't admire it because they don't have it in themselves and so they try to dismiss it it's inspiring but those people goggins and cam haynes and the rock people that are cons kevin hart is another one too constantly hustling always getting after it those people are very valuable to humanity oh god they really are and god yeah there's but people who are they consider themselves intellectuals or at least intelligent or artists or whatever they look at those people as like they're doing something frivolous and that like maybe perhaps my support of it is just reinforcing the the meathead part of me that i enjoy which is true i'm a meathead what's the fact that i'm not getting around it around it i'm a meathead but i like muscle cars i like bow hunting i like meathead type [ __ ] okay but i also like to read yeah and i also like intelligent things i like interesting discussions but and you get motivated to work really hard mind is the hard part the getting your mind to force your body to do things yeah when your mind starts concocting all these excuses and starts coming up with all these different ways why you don't have to do that very clever it's a sneaky [ __ ] you're mine really clever and you gotta conquer it you gotta conquer your inner [ __ ] yeah you gotta you gotta figure out a way to tell that [ __ ] to shut up and you start working yeah once you start sweating and things start moving along you you get you get help get a sense of satisfaction that's right exactly you had uh you had one post literally i saw it as i was uh doing a pour over coffee or in the morning before my radio show and you said something like my inner [ __ ] wanted me to go and just have coffee and skip the workout i was sitting there like literally making the coffee i did that was a hard day yeah sometimes it's hard you gotta like for me and uh i always feel silly talking about working out in front of you anyway but uh as long as i know when i'm doing it in the day if it's going to be right after the radio show as soon as i turn it off and then go on like i just have to know just keep scheduled yeah you can't have it loose like sometime in the afternoon does not work yes i have to know exactly that's how i am with writing as well yeah i have to have my writing i have to know i'm writing today at 3 p.m i will show up i will flip open that laptop i'll [ __ ] fire it up that's right yeah and and all you have to do is show up just show up there's this great book on writing rituals all these different writers and they tell you it's just what each author did and and some painters um something rituals phil you told me about this before i think i have i should just i'll get you a copy okay that'll be my mission it's so great just you keep it at your end table just to kind of like pop it open and just see how these peop just that they some of them are really decadent some of them were really puritanical but they had it well the best one is thompson hunter s thompson there was a beardy man took me and fitzsimmons reading hunter s thompson's ritual and put it into music oh we made a song do you think we could play that are you allowed i wonder if we could play that because i'm in it i mean i gave him the rights to use it [Music] what do you think happens there it's kind of an interesting experiment yeah he seems like a nice car it's it's weird like what you can get away with and what you can't get away with who owns it who's the who's it's not me i certainly don't own it but i let him use our voice but it's me and fitzsimmons reading hunter s thompson's schedule like he had a writer come visit him and the writer like observed what he did in the day and was his ritual he would do it every day all right here's here's his daily routine 3 p.m rise 305 shiva's regal with morning papers smokes dunhills 345 cocaine 350 another glass of shivas another dunhill 405 pm by the way first cup of coffee and a dunhill 415 cocaine 416 orange juice and another dunhill 430 cocaine 454 cocaine 505 cocaine 511 coffee dunhills 5 30 get more ice in the shivas cocaine at 5 45 6 o'clock smoking grass take the edge off the day of the day three hours into it three hours in lit 705 wooden creek tavern for lunch heineken uh two margaritas coleslaw taco salad double order of fried onion rings carrot cake ice cream a bean fritter dunhills another heineken cocaine and for the rest of the ride home a snow cone a glass of shredded ice which is poured over four jiggers of chivas okay so snow cone is shiva's okay 9 p.m start snorting cocaine seriously 10 pm drops acid 11 11 pm chartreuse i don't know what that is cocaine and grass 11 30 cocaine etc etc 12 midnight hunter s thompson is ready to write that's when he sits down to write 1205 to 6am he writes chartreuse cocaine grass shivas coffee heineken clove cigarettes grapefruit dunhills orange juice gin continuous pornographic movies 6 a.m in the hot tub with champagne dove bars fettuccine alfredo 8 a.m calcium just a sleeping pill not 8 20 sleep oh my god i can't believe he shot himself i can't believe he's in serious pain he had hip replacements and he was all [ __ ] up man you can only that's a that's i can't call that a ritual you only throw that much sand into the engine yeah right exactly before the block season it's gonna cease it was sad towards the end of his life because he couldn't talk like um there's a a famous interview with him on conan o'brien yeah and he had lost his ability to communicate like where's i was i was sorry i'm sorry a lot of them not the worst he just was so compromised by alcohol and drugs is his he couldn't talk anymore that is the worst that really is bad it's uh there was i was looking at this um this video of uh david lynch talking about tm you know i mean transcendental meditation yeah yeah and he was talking about uh that the people that are in pain that are drinking like that and taking the drugs artists that are doing that stuff that that ends up killing the art and that if you can find something else for your brain that gets you away from those things you you'll be able to create but that all of those drug-fueled uh alcohol-fueled artistic endeavors and artistic lives all just burn out they just you've uh you've killed it you've killed the part of your that's going to be able to create and it's true all those stories don't end in a way stanhope's still kicking is he doing great yeah tell david lynch to suck it um we'll see [Laughter] honestly i think this is that's a generalization because i think it's a pretty i think that uh drugs and alcohol can be tools i think the problem is in short bursts the inclination that people have to excess and is often what leads them astray it's like just this inclination just keep boozing and keep drugging and year after year day after day eventually your body falls apart right this is why i'm doing sober october yeah how's it going it's nice you feel good i'm [ __ ] sorry you're all by yourself i know no one's no one's all alone but i'm sore i've been working out i decided to work out every day for the whole month oh really that's like yeah wow what's your normal schedule i take days off yeah normally i take a couple days off a week right but i've just been forcing myself to do what i would call active recovery so i mix it up so like days i just do different things on different days and just i'm just trying to keep it going one of the things i've been come real obsessed with is this thing called the rogue echo bike uh-huh you know what that is yeah you know what an air dyne bike is yeah you do your your handles and then you basically it's wind resistance yeah that's big fan yeah uh this is like the most brutal version of that oh yeah it's a really rugged tough piece of equipment and um i've i've become obsessed with seeing how much i can do on it it's really weird like i started doing these tabata rounds i would do like four rounds four rounds are uh you do eight tabatas which is 20 seconds of sprinting followed by 10 seconds of rest and you do that for a cycle of eight like you do that eight times how long how far it takes four minutes to do eight times you know how far is the sprint no it does just time out you're just doing time because you're not going anywhere you're on the bike you're on the bike pay attention you're not even listening to me i'm on drugs so your you do that it takes four minutes and i would do that i started off doing it i would just do it like four times which is uh 16 minutes 16 minutes of like sprinting which is hot it's difficult yeah and then i moved it up to eight and then i moved it up to ten and then i moved it up to thirteen so now i'm basically at 52 minutes whoa of sprinting and resting sprinting and resting and it's done it's amazing for my cardio yeah but you you just rest and recover and then i i have this day of dread where i know today i'm doing the airdyne bites right and then i start [ __ ] with my head and i start saying okay [ __ ] today you're gonna do 15. you're gonna do 15 15 sets each one is four minutes long ready go and once you get through one yeah you go okay 13 more to go 14 more to go you know yeah 13 12 11 and you just keep going and then when you get to seven you feel the finish line coming and then you get to six and to five and you're [ __ ] i'm drenched with sweat right and i'm i'm taking liquid iv in these big two-liter bottles and i'm chugging it i've become crazy it's just the starting that's the hard part it's the dread yeah it's the dread i i try to find ways to avoid doing this because i'm doing it three days a week sprinting on this thing that's amazing good for you but my quads my legs are getting big mine are getting big too what are you doing getting fat peloton i'm sorry what do i look for no no no no you look great uh i hate photons awesome i hit a 61 week streak in the past 21 weeks in a row i'm at 61 weeks i'm still alive that's amazing it's good how many days a week are you doing it three and when you do it are you following the same course yeah or do you have like different instructors you follow their workouts i've got this great i only like one instructor i love this guy matt wilpers who's he's not partying on the bike there's a lot of you know everyone has their different soul cycle kind of a right you know girls flirting and wilpers is like a coach he's like just dialed in hardcore he's like yeah he's like a high school coach kind of a thing and uh he's just all about you know hitting these zones and doing the stuff and but he keeps coming out with new ones so like every week there's he drops like you know a 60 minute or a 45 minute and uh just it just keeps you it keeps me motivated it keeps me in and it has music so you're going along to the music music and he's coaching you and he's coaching he's like telling you crank it up let it go all that stuff right exactly exactly awesome they also have a treadmill now too right yeah yeah there was a place that we when we were working in phoenix once and we went to this gym we were doing stand-up in phoenix and we went to this gym during the day and they had these cardio machines that were exactly what i always wanted i said why can't someone come up with a cardio machine where as you're running you're doing like a video game and so like so you had like fire in your left hand and i think what you did with your right hand yeah but it was like an elliptical machine and you the only way you went forward is by doing this so you have a screen in front of you and you were shooting people and then you would turn it people and you were shooting i forget what you're shooting at i think i think you were in a tank and you were shooting at like other objects it wasn't it wasn't so sophisticated where you had like there was there's a thing that they're doing where they i know there was a concept at least where they had vr goggles and you had this uh omnidirectional treadmill so you'd be harnessed by the waist and the omnidirectional treadmill would go in any any way and so you would run left and one right and you'd shoot at this and shoot at that but you'd actually be getting exercise in because you're on this self-propelled omnidirectional treadmill have you ever used a self-propelled treadmill no dude no we have this thing called the air runner at the old studio and i miss it it's amazing it's 15 harder than regular running because it's at this little slope and you're pulling to get it to go and as you get it to go like you're keeping up this pace it's it's very difficult wow it's really good though like running on the beach um like in the sand on the beach pretty [ __ ] good yeah it's not quite the same as that but it's really good yeah but anyway the point is it's if you could have something like that where it's difficult to do but also fun like you put on these goggles and you're doing halo or something or doing quake yeah you know and you're running down the hallway and shooting at things i mean yeah whatever workout you would get that'd be really cool if you get it behind you and have like someone's coming up behind you you got to outrun them because think about how many people get addicted to video games yeah right yeah video games are extremely addictive sure if you can get addicted to something that actually gives you cardio where you're running four or five hours in a day yeah that'd be great so the only way you get good at this game is by drinking a lot of water taking vitamins eating clean yeah come on yes let's do it let's make it well they i think they're really close to doing something like that you've tried that game uh beat saber where you're swinging yes john carmack was a wizard of that show when you have that ramped up uh granted maybe if you made those weighted so you're actually it's not weight loss in your hand i've played that for like an hour you get pretty sweaty if you're doing good like if you're not [ __ ] up every 30 seconds yeah well do you remember when we stopped we put that boxing game on and i was i was whacking all these opponents and uh i i was getting tired yeah i was like this is a good workout i get tired during dance dance revolution because if you actually know how to box a little you could [ __ ] those guys up right so those guys are coming like duck under but but you're actually you're moving and when you get hit you the the light flashes like you guys cool is that it's pretty cool that's pretty cool like if you could dial that in and be like go against tyson or go against yeah you know what i mean like go against ali like that they will definitely have that someday appraise your family yeah the thing would be cool is if you could actually hit something yeah if you actually had like a thing in front of you that you would hit like a heavy bag right because right now it's not that way right now it's just air so you're just swinging in air right and when you it's like poo poo like when you when you hit it goggles on right heavy bag in front of you it might hurt yourself you might hurt yourself the problem with that is like if you if you swung and you thought that the bag was here but the bag is right here you might like hurt your wrist or something it really depends on maybe it's possible maybe it could be like a really spongy bag yeah like a like a light water bag like they have water if you've ever hit a water bag they're really good because they don't there there's weight to them but they don't have the same in like sometimes people have a problem with actual heavy bags because the impact is so jarring yeah on your joints if you hit hard especially like roy jones was here yesterday he was talking about it he hits these little paddles and instead of like regular mitts because he hit so hard like he doesn't want to hurt his hands so he's like wow and so he's just whipping into these paddles and the panels offer very little resistance to just make this slap right just for the quickness of it yes so if you could have something like that maybe right where it was like it you hit it but it doesn't it's not hurting you it's god like it just seems like the fun part of it of like you being able to go against legends you know like that that's got to be some of those somebody oh so it shows you the spots to hit yeah that's cool what you would want right yes that's a great idea that's a great idea does that bag look like it's set up right well the bag is actually virtual right so like there's a virtual bag but then a physical back so the virtual bag what what the goggles are doing is picking up on the actual position of the real bag so when you're hitting it even with these fake gloves the distance is correct so if you're seeing the way this guy look at the video the way this oh now he's punching the wall oh he's that's a makawara but he's so there he's just doing that for reflexes go back to the back part though let me see the back part again yeah if you can make that square but see how he's hitting it like he knows where the bag is he's he's hitting it in the correct distance so it's it's showing him accurately where the bag is as he moves forward it's it's representing where the bag is pretty dope yeah they're getting there yeah it's going to come right i mean that would yeah give him up be able to run like against carl lewis that would be pretty cool come on man make it a little fun yeah but the peloton for my for my thing has been it's been good yeah yeah but if they could combine something like see if you can find that omnidirectional treadmill plus vr game because there was a thing that they were doing i don't remember what the game was they were working on it right i'm pretty sure it was in beta yeah and they were just trying to figure out how to do it but they wanted to do it like quake or doom or one of those 3d shooters where you'd be running with like a plastic gun and you'd run down and shoot at things it seems like that's like the gyms of the future like getting a kayak and you're going down a roaring river or you know what i mean like all that running through the yeah like the mountains and yeah that's probably where the gyms are gonna head or how about you're running and like wolves are chasing you yeah you're on this treadmill you turn around vr and you see like blowing eyes this is probably the best looking one i saw you use there's a couple different ones i remember that's an omnidirectional treadmill as well yeah so i remember the one i was like the one you're talking about is a little concave i think right it was circular okay so this straps you in the same way but the way the uh ground moves can go all directions we'll see if it let me see this guy get in there so the oh got goggles on look at that robot oh that's so dope look at that he's pretty so is he harnessed into that treadmill not no his avatar looks like a robot oh so it does go that's for tracking that little thing on the back right so it seems like it's oh that's so awkward they just need to get that better yeah it's the beginnings or really what you really could get is like uh somebody is strapped in look at that yeah so that's what i'm talking about yeah now he's an inception he's walking down the street in the inception so is that a treadmill what is it yep that's a treadmill that's what i'm talking about something like that where you're strapped into an omnidirectional treadmill that looks like you'd fall off it look how dope that is oh he's strapped in yeah so he can he could kind of move anywhere oh get in there kids come on bro how badass is this yeah and if you had ankle weights on and wrist weights what a [ __ ] workout you would do that would be pretty you would just you would work out so much you would die i don't know because you'd be so into training yeah you'd be so into it yeah you come back six months later like what happened tom you got a [ __ ] six-pack what's going on yeah you'd want to play for like hours and hours right i got really into boom zats vr boom it's a good name boom yeah i mean that if you could figure out a way to turn your addiction into something positive right yeah like now you're talking like the best way to do it for those video game guys is to become a professional gamer yeah or you can actually make a shitload of money playing professional games but if you could figure out a way for regular people that have no desire to do that to use it as recreation and then get fit yes i know a lot of people got fit with dance dance revolution it's no joke no i was exhausting i was like my little girl my girls were little at the time and were dancing and doing that thing it was like i had to sit down on the couch dude sometimes you go to an arcade like at a bowling alley or something you watch some dude who's like an expert at that [ __ ] you're like oh okay you're river dancing you're like one of those guys remember those river dance commercials yeah there was a funny it wasn't like a nick schwartzen movie like when he had he was riverdale really good at that in that dance dance revolution in the arcade he's like real intense was it a sandler movie i think so he was in maybe so yeah but yeah no that stuff yeah you playing the wii when we would do the wii and oh yeah stuff together you're moving what happened this one can hold your i was going to see around look she's swimming look at that the first one i showed you it said it weighed a thousand pounds so that gets into like it's gonna be an issue getting them into a place where you could use it uh-huh wow this is a little smaller i don't even know this is called silver cord i guess but she's kicking it's holding her weight that's pretty crazy hung out in the air doing the breaststroke that is wild that's cool you can walk in vr i feel like the next step is you're going to want to be able to jump and if you can't physically jump you have to hit a button to jump that's that makes that right back out and it kind of right you could jump and land on things like bam wow oh my goodness they're getting there yeah but it just seems like it's a perfect sort of mesh the perfect mixing of a healthy activity with an addictive activity right like you can turn a positive into a negative because the negative has always been for me at least they're just a massive waste of my time i get crazy with video games i can't [ __ ] with them i know like jamie and i talked about it like with the new place like when we go to texas we're going to bring the video games like no i can't because you can't just play a little bit no no i just it's to me it's like a cocaine addict i came in one day when you were in that back room playing and it was you were in a frenzy i was like i'm just gonna wait over here this you were like well they're so fun yeah they're so good and they're so well i mean it's too good it's too exciting you know it really is yeah it's too good and you had really high-tech stuff yeah yeah well the graphics today yeah you're just amazing what they can do today with video games is just so special yeah when when people get shot they explode you see blood splatter all over the place and and and they're they don't look like people either right they look like ogres with like mechanical arms and so they they make noise if only you can do it for 20 minutes and be satisfied yeah please it'd be good well the way to do it would be to make sure that you get exhausted doing it right right so that you can you can only play because you're running on this omni-directional treadmill and if you did that like put put like 10-pound weights on your arms yeah 10-pound weights on each arm 10-pound weights on each leg barrel you'd be beat yeah you'd be beaten down even five pounds [ __ ] even a pound no i know it's a lot on each side they just made you simulate carrying the guns you're running around in the game with you'd be tired of [ __ ] right that's a real good yeah right give you a real metal thing like a heavy metal gun with a trigger yeah like a [ __ ] cannon don't don't don't don't with something that kicks body armor plus spiders haptic feedback the whole deal you get hit you get zapped a little bit um have you ever seen you know what sandbox is no dude sandbox is a very similar situation it's a vr game that you go to a warehouse and they have it set up so you have the parameters of the game and you put on a haptic feedback vest you have vr goggles and they hand you guns and these different things and then you go and you you duke it out with zombies like there's this one uh deadwood mansion it's called see if you find the dead yeah see this is this is what it looks like right i've done this a bunch of times with my family it's really awesome it's awesome with your family yeah you do it you do it together and you have fun you you go missions together you shoot aliens and zombies you feel like you're all in that reality i mean kind of it's obviously fake but it looks like that like when you see the video of it it looks like that but it looks good it's really cool it's certainly discernible like this is deadwood mansion so the zombies come running at you and you gun him down like look at him dude it freaks you out and you get a shotgun apparently that's the new update you get a shotgun with the the deadwood mansion but they're running at you and you're [ __ ] gunning them down look at them that's what they look like [Laughter] and like did someone die like do you yeah your wife go down and she's out of the game and you know she's going out of the game you can bring her back to life but you have to hold on to her shoulder and you recharge her with your energy that's pretty great so when you see them when they're down they turn black and white and then when you grab them you go and you bring them back to life and you when you get killed you see in black and white so you know you're dead i have not gone but that's pretty cool have you have your kids or you ever gone with them to like a vr haunted house or does that exist yet if it doesn't that's going to be yeah yeah you probably can't do it this year obviously but right of course that would be great that would be a good call really creepy walk around an entire place that's made for it well they had at universal they had a walking dead attraction and they had actors and so they had people like full-on walking dead makeup and like some of it was like mechanical and some of it was in the haunted house yeah they would come out but it was like a real person i walked no that's my daughter lost a flip-flop and i had to go back for it she ran and left her she left her flip-flops she was probably 10. no that's almost you brought her in at 10. and she was too scared to go back so i had to go back and get it and pardon me going right and everybody thought i was a thing all the other people i'm like just walking through like looking for this look at this this is the scariest one yet the scary dad oh my god it's that guy from italy yeah he's so funny what's his name again carlo verdone it's carla verdone he's a teddy are you coming for to kill us and i got the uh and i found it found the flip-flop came back like a hero oh congratulations boy what a low bar there is for being a hero in 2020 did you get the flip-flop you [ __ ] hero i got the flip-flop i did it oh man i feel like uh i feel like uh things will probably get weirder before they correct themselves right see look at this is the constant narrative yeah we're having a good time and it goes back to covid i didn't i wasn't even thinking but i was thinking like aliens coming or halloween decorations coming to life and hunting us down someone somewhat there's another there's a couple more curveballs waiting for us well the trump getting covet i thought was like wow this movie's lit yeah i was like this is a crazy [ __ ] simulation whatever we chose because like if he dies yeah that's what i was thinking if he dies and nancy pelosi becomes president and pence and pelosi are battling over who wears the crown oh god i know i mean that was really what could have happened yeah i mean pence would have become vice president would have become president but then then he gets it what happens when there you know a month later is the election right and then the election is not going to be we're going to find out november 4th who the who the winner is yeah it's going to be weeks unless it's a landslide but i don't think you're going to see a landslide if it's a landslide then you'll find out that night i don't believe that's true if it's not a landslide then uh if it's a landslide i'm sorry if it's a landslide with in-person voting right but it's not going to be it's going to be so many mail-in ballots you don't know i don't know well you know everything you told me already you know but i have to pretend that i don't so the conversation keeps going what do you think is going to happen who do you think is going to win i don't know i don't know i mean they're saying that biden's up like 16 points but i mean we we've been through this before right there's 96 chance that hillary was going to win so he's also get any of that biden is up in polls polls are only answered by people so [ __ ] stupid they answer polls you always have to take that into consideration here's what i say to people have you ever responded to a poll right have you nope there you go no one with a life it's really true so people who are dumb think biden should be president great what is the numbers we're talking about how many people yeah you don't know we only pull people with flat tires in white neighborhoods i do kind of they're waiting for triple a it's the only time we can get them to talk to us like who's being pulled i've never even seen a poll i don't know anyone's asked me to poll i don't know anybody who's been asked to pull nope never i don't know if people i want more choices i think oh yeah that would be amazing that's what i want i want better choices i don't want this polarization i hate it yeah no they should put together teams of like mixed this these four people and these four people have mixed ideas and get the best ideas and then they're going to run as a platform rather than as an individual i think initially the idea of uh representative democracy and the idea of a republican party and democratic party was a great idea but i think the problem is people form this loyalty to this side and this blind loyalty blind loyalty to their team and then they have confirmation bias and everything this team said does it's good that's all you focus on and you decide that this team's narrative is correct and you subscribe full on to the ideology and the other people the enemy and the other people are sexist and racist or the other people are marxists and leftists or whatever whatever you decide is wrong with the other people could you imagine i think what i'm getting now is i think the problem is groups that's right the problem is identifying in any group whether it's exactly antifa or proud boys or the [ __ ] whatever figure out a group pick a group the idea of identifying with a group is a terrible idea terrible idea could you imagine being so all-in with either party like could you imagine that you're just blindly following everything they say just because they're that color yeah cause i know a lot of people do i know a lot of people that are all blue all all they do i do too up and down insane though i've seen it on people's twitter page i vote blue across the board yeah it's like you stop thinking it's just you just stop thinking for yourself it's ridiculous and the idea that only bad people vote republican is ridiculous too or only dumb people or weak people or bad people vote democrat is ridiculous too and this narrative gets reinforced by the fact that there are these two opposing teams right and you have to pick a side right and it's also reinforced by social pressure like your neighbors and your friends co-workers well also the industry that you're in certain industries it's it's frowned upon to vote left in certain industries it's frowned upon to vote right yeah and you want to succeed in that business and so you sort of like like i mean you know it's how many headshots at some point do you think so yeah i do i think it has to i don't think the what one of the reasons i think that i don't think if i would go out on a limb that i think trump is going to lose is because people just can't deal with the anxiety the it's like we were saying earlier like you can't be at a hot boil we've been at a hot boil for four years and people are exhausted they just wanted to go back to someone calm just calm this [ __ ] down just calm it all down well it'd be nice if there was someone where you thought was gonna calm it down i don't know i think anybody but trump would calm it down honestly really yeah put romney in put put anybody in that i think could anybody think that if romney was a pr he is a much more measured yeah much more calm guy joe compared to trump everybody and the funny thing was against obama he looked like some sort of weird religious radical i know remember i don't i do people get romney the [ __ ] away from us right exactly romney you want mitt romney vote for him tomorrow weirdo i know that weirdo he's a quaker or some [ __ ] i heard yeah where's magic underpants where's magic underpants we can't have him in there he's a mormon i know he's just a gentleman just a gentleman who has a nice family who's just mellow he's in a really nice cult you're going to be in a cult yeah the mormons are the nicest cult members so nice they're the kindest sweetest people they're so nice they're really family-oriented oh my god at all the cult members i had neighbors who were inside they were so kind they were so friendly a hundred percent so nice delightful yes i'm not kidding genuinely nice yeah they believe the dumbest [ __ ] i mean it was like you talk to them about what they believe oh my goodness who cares god bless you okay i don't know i'm not being friendly joseph smith was how old 14 yeah he found golden tablets contained the lost work of jesus and only he could read it because he had a magic rock is that what you're saying i don't care about that part i just care about how he acts in the parking lot with me that was just i was just down in uh salt lake couple weeks ago yeah and i was driving on the street and i saw these two dudes with white shirts with ties on the clipboard walking door-to-door yeah god bless them yeah you got to go out and do it i know god bless them i know exactly worse things in the world than that there's worse things in the world than that 100 and i don't care about what they're into just let's just mellow it out and i honestly do believe that you can take almost anybody that's in office and run them and it'll be more mellow they may not agree with everything that they're doing but it will just turn this temperature down and i don't think people i think people are exhausted they're exhausted we can't live at this at this pace at this level at this nonsense but you think this is all because i think a lot of this when you go to the back to the social dilemma i think a lot of this is going to happen no matter what i i think trump is a particularly polarizing figure because he's got that [ __ ] you attitude and you come at him he comes at you harder and he's just a battler right so it doesn't doesn't help badly it doesn't help anything it's not there's no soothing from him there's none but i think that's your job as a leader but i think we would be polarized no matter what right now there's definitely lines drawn that we're definitely polarized but if it's at top if at the top you had a real republican just saying chill out let's go to work on this stuff it wouldn't be cool give me an example it'll be this heightened thing give me example other than the cult member other than other than romney who is there anybody out there that stands out or someone that you would want to be representing that side i don't know kasich was kind of uh normal yeah he seems normal yeah he seems he seems measured yeah he seems like he's just going to be a grown-up just be an adult just give me a mellow adult it's going to do the right things i'm waiting for dan crenshaw crenshaw yeah he he's been on the podcast several times navy seal lost an eye in combat oh yeah no texas it's in houston yeah okay great guy super super like reasonable intelligent rational well thought out really enjoy talking to him it's good i really enjoy talking to him i'm going to make sense of him always necessarily agree with him nor do i think i should i think there's uh i mean there's room for disagreement but the way he communicates is very rational very sensible it's very intelligent and the man is like a legitimate american hero the guy that you're that guy in that office shouldn't be as frantic and stuff as anybody on on the edges you know what i mean like that guy's got to be the measured adult that kind of takes in all of those people and makes sense of it and translates it and leads and keeps us all united you know makes everybody you know the the most upsetting part of this run has been just turning americans on americans like that's never happened in my life where we're making each other the enemy and we're not you know you and you tour and you see people that they're not each other's throats they just want to raise their kids make their money live their lives we're not the enemy and painting others painting other americans as a threat as a foreign threat he's doing so upsetting who's doing that trump how is he doing that painting other americans is a foreign threat yeah constantly says that constantly says that the left is just out to destroy and those people i mean i mean everything he says is painting it that way it's not everything he says sure he kind of might might be exaggerating a little bit there well i mean it's always inflaming and it's always he runs as there's no there's no foreign power is the enemy it's the others in this country are yeah china's the enemy he does think there's real issues with china that's true and i think there are real issues economically with china yeah i don't know i don't understand it's all above our pay grade right yeah i don't understand any of that i don't understand the nuance of we're a couple of touring jokeslingers right but i do know when somebody is turning us against each other and he likes doing that well he certainly likes the battle you know and uh that that was what i admired most about obama is that the way he commanded respect was just with grace the way the way he handled himself at press conferences the way he discussed things yeah he's very magical even when he was attacked you know he would he'd be measured yeah very he was a statesman right you know cool yeah just keep your head and it makes it makes us all come down yes that's what we need really legitimately if you have a if the dad in the house is an alcoholic and he comes home and you don't know who's coming in that day if he's going to attack me or is he going to it everyone's nervous yeah that's kind of the way the country feels yeah dad just comes home and he's home at six and just has dinner and watches the ball game and he just sits there and he's i like your simplistic way of describing i don't think it's accurate but i understand but it's an analogy it's an analogy i think we all need to get on mushrooms i really do i think we need uh last time rituals a couple weeks ago a couple weeks ago yeah well i'm in texas so more than a couple weeks where'd you do it what was the atmosphere uh my studio i did i did some during the post malone podcast you did yeah we did mushrooms together i didn't know that yeah yeah really yeah giggly in the middle of the podcast yeah we got pretty silly oh i gotta listen to that we i think um people need something that connects them to some sense that there's something more to life than just just what we're experiencing in front of us i've said it before say it again religious ritual we need something something that transcends transcendental meditation yeah i'm not kidding i know you're into that but i don't like the results with you i don't like i'm not impressed it hasn't really been compelling i see what you're saying but i'm like i'm not buying it guys over there just drinking pour over and sitting on his couch thinking all's awesome complaining about trump i don't see any enlightenment over there uh it's him and frank on the couch me and frank hanging out making bread but it is that thing that you're talking about it's the same thing that that drugs access it's the same thing that religion runs after but without any dogma without any leaders without any thing and it's clarity it's just a just a kind of a sense a growing sense as you do it over time that there is uh a bigger consciousness that there's something that is more compelling and more uniting with all of us than than what we're shown on the surface well i've been doing a lot of uh breath exercises breathing exercises i do these um the one that i enjoy the most because it puts me in kind of a trance is six long seconds in six deep breath like a six second deep breath and a six second exhale and i just do this in a cycle so i count one two three four five six one two three four five six and i i do it like i try to be as honest as i can but yeah the most important thing is to get it rhythmic so six seconds in six seconds out six seconds and dude it's crazy like i'll sit there and i'll think 10 minutes has gone by and it's 45 minutes later wow then i'll check because i set a timer when i do it and and i just decide at a certain point in time to stop and uh it's it's anxiety scrubbing it's like i'm cleaning my mind of extraneous [ __ ] that's not it's just things that are not necessary that are getting in the way of like noise crackling life noise like i'm very uh very busy right i do a lot of [ __ ] i've got a lot of things going on and i have this mind that tries to find things to think about like i'll lie in bed and i'll get a thought in my head about asteroids or something nutty that i don't need to think about right now or i'll think about the volcanoes under yellowstone and like what happens if one does erupt like yeah how does one deal with that like and then all of a sudden it's [ __ ] two hours later and i'm i'm lying in bed consumed with this thought the brain goes after it yeah yeah the for me the best way to stay present is through these breathing exercises i found like a it's a great relief to me yeah and that's the way i describe like anxiety scrubbing yeah scrubs away yeah that's kind of it's very similar the way i describe it you know yours is you have a mantra right a mantra and you just keep repeating that mantra and it just gives your brain a cue basically that it's allowed to it's it's going to start thinking about this and going and going a little deeper and leaving all of that stuff up here leaving all of that dates and anxiety and what all that stuff that you're thinking about here in the world that you need to think about but it's just giving your brain permission like a little portal to go to a different state of consciousness right right and you just kind of hang there and then and sometimes you're it's still busy the thoughts will still kind of come in but 20 minutes pops off and you come out and it's exactly what you're describing like you've scrubbed your nervous system free reset you're resetting the computer we operate too much on momentum and i think thoughts and little ideas and maybe anxiety a little way they cling to you yeah as you're going along and then they're stuck with you and then you've got all these things that are stuck with you like whether it's you know bills or relationships or struggle or you know commitments things you have to do things you have to resolve things that you're you know the the news you've decided your requirements of you yeah things all these different things focal points of attention yeah and they you can carry them around like weights and what the with the meditation does it doesn't make those disappear but it it makes you able to carry those yes there's a different perspective in carrying all that it cleans for me i feel like if my brain was like a cylinder like a standing cylinder it would have all this [ __ ] stuck to it all over the place that maybe i don't need to be aware of all the time yeah because it doesn't help no right but these breathing exercises for me allows me i really do go into a trance it's really strange and i like the the fact that i'm doing a breath exercise as well so it's meditation but it's also breathing yeah it's like both things are happening at the same time so there's an exercise aspect to it because breathing exercises like when you're sitting i'm like here like this is what i'm doing how long is he gonna do i keep going i keep going i'll do that for 45 minutes right exactly at that pace right and you when i'm doing it like that it does it puts me into a trance yeah but it's also an exercise for my lungs right yeah the breathing thing is good it's heavy yeah you need to do it because there's a lot to carry for all of us for every single person especially mine's pretty light all the things we talked about today it's pretty light it's all pretty light what about the bread the bread's going well bread is bread is it is a little bit meditation yeah it's probably in a craft like making oh delicious bread yeah it's very yeah it's like stand up it's like you're always working on perfecting this craft and letting your mind go and just deal with that when you're doing that you're not thinking about anything else in the world i need to be there right when it comes out of the oven and cut into it and then put butter on it right then it's pretty bad it's the best it is is that the best like right then not right then how much do you want i mean it's pretty close it's like a steak where you let it rest yeah you let it rest how long do you like some people say let it rest like another couple hours who are those [ __ ] people people what do they want cold bread people who are so convinced that they're filled up with bread but uh warm bread though so good so good it's only one way to get warm bread you can't wait for it to cool off a friend of mine gave me this butter that he got from uh that he found here that he had had in france oh my god butter from france this butter on that bread was just insane it's all i've been doing during the uh the pandemic i just keep baking bread and driving it to comedians i've seen every comedian you know and delivered bread and delivered bread that's cool it's become like my little uh that's such a nice thing getting out of the house and you go drive up and see allie wong and hang and give her her bread i miss her we'll see leslie jones and hang with her and give her her bread and i'm just running around l.a feeding people bert tom it's beautiful it's it is that really is it's cool it's a cool thing to do it is it keeps you connected you're giving people i'm making too much of it you know whatever how often do you do it you can't eat it like twice a week so that's four levels are you still doing it for a podcast as well are you still doing that i'm still doing the breaking bread podcast so you're making bread doing that as well uh well i don't do no for the podcast we just talk and eat but you were doing something where you were making bread i was making yeah on my youtube channel i show people how to bake bread you're still doing that yeah so how often are you doing that not that often i haven't done one in like a month or two what the [ __ ] but you're making all this bread i just get it rolling well i don't understand i don't want to show them how i'm doing it every night it's the same thing well then talk during it and just show them what you talk about just talk [ __ ] about trump people get mad at you boost up your channel but he likes romney what's what's with this guy this guy's a romney fan come on you're liberal you're a liberal you dirty liberal cuck what having a [ __ ] talks around anymore that was look at him look at him yeah there you go smelling your starter i remember when that shirt was new [Laughter] gooey fun the new band name that's you buddy yeah i like it listen we already did three hours this is the weirdest time warp it's very weird it's the weirdest time flies by it's about three hours what are we at yeah right in 30 seconds it will be man how about that so cool three hours i miss having you in la i miss having me in l.a too and it's weird because like you know i mean the store it's gonna it'll probably feel more pronounced when the comedy store opens up yeah and you're not around but just knowing that you're not there is a little weird well but i like that i can just get on a plane and come here i like pretty great too when i open up a club out here yeah yeah you must come i'll come anytime you want i look you know that's i'm not going to stop coming i've meant multiple stages of things i'm doing on here we're moving into stage two stage three positive fantasization three will be the club and then stage four will be a gigantic ranch where i run my psychedelic cult i'm in don't tell the police i haven't had mushrooms in so long oh look so long talk to me in 10 months because that's right ari gave me some when he did his tv show i wouldn't trust ari's mushrooms for i stuck in second who knows what's in there he'll he'll put mdma and acid in your mushrooms and laugh but they're so old they're like they're like five years old now and i still have them you think they're good try them just take a little bit just take a little bit take a cap yeah just walk around the house don't tell anybody just give everybody hugs clean out the pipes yeah clean out the pipes just a little bit to get going yeah just connect yeah we're all in it together gang yeah we're all in it together whatever way you get there yes you're the best you're the best tom papa you is man i do miss having you around and uh i'd miss you brad i'll keep coming we'll keep doing this all right all right i love you buddy love you too bye everyone see ya [Music] you

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Keywords: Joe Rogan Experience, JRE, Joe, Rogan, podcast, MMA, comedy, stand, up, funny, Freak, Party, Joe Rogan, Tom Papa, JRE #1549, comedian, bread, sourdough, Breaking bread

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Length: 180min 58sec (10858 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 14 2020