Joe Rogan Experience #1550 - Wesley Hunt

[Music] mr hunt welcome aboard happy to be here thanks have uh thanks for being here i really appreciate it friend of dan crenshaw's is a friend of mine all of them so um congress yeah running for congress yeah this is what i want my congressman to look like jacked veterans i mean that's wouldn't the world be a better place i agree i think so i mean it really would be yeah um so tell me what this has been like running for congress is this the first office you've run for this is the first time thank god what what started this i know you're friends with dan who's also a congressman but what started this this journey yes great question and thank you so much for having me my pleasure this is awesome really appreciate you and what started this was really just my family and how can we continue service and just in a different capacity i come from a military family so my dad did 23 years in the army retired as a lieutenant colonel my sister went to west point in my family first so she's 10 years older than me did 23 years active duty she was a military intelligence officer deployed to iraq twice and did a few tours abroad as well i went to west point in my family second we're 10 years apart my sister and i and then graduated west point class of 2004 uh flew apaches uh in iraq for eighty for was actually active duty eight years deployed to iraq did 55 combat air missions in baghdad and then did two tours of duty in saudi arabia as a diplomatic liaison officer my brother who was ten months and eight days my junior so we're irish twins he also went to west point and he did five years in the navy i went to harvard business school for his graduate degree and now lives in houston with his family there's about 60 years worth of military service just in my immediate family wow respect thank you sir that's a lot thank you that's a serious serious military family it is my mom's the best of us so she stood at home for two months in 2006 while i was flying combat air missions in baghdad my sister was doing intel in the green zone and my brother was in the arabian gulf on a destroyer for two months at the same time so even though she didn't serve in the military per se she served those who served by lending her family so when people ask me why am i running for congress i always lead with that because that's the kind of service and sacrifice it takes for us to live in this free country so this is just a mindset that you you were raised with absolutely um and what made you what made you make the leap so there's a lot of things going on in the country that we're seeing right now really i thought everything was fine few things we got going on in the country right now and my dad always taught us leadership is not about when it's convenient for you it's about when your country needs you and our country needs us i think in this in this which seems to be a dark time we've had some dark times in the past i'm sure we'll get into that but it's always my opinion that patriots always step up when our country needs us the most and that's kind of what we're taught to do to give back to the country that gave us all that we have now to all the things that are going on in the country right now um what what stands out to you is something that you feel like you can contribute and possibly help correct or at least uh get on the right track yeah so there's a lot of talk of a lot of you know racial injustices of the past this is something that i think i'm uniquely positioned to talk about my great great grandfather was a slave his name was silas crawford born on rose down plantation just north of baton rouge louisiana three of his great great-great-grandchildren all attended west point i earned three master's degrees from cornell university brother went to harvard uh sister has her advanced degree in applied mathematics we've had the honor of serving our country we've had the honor to live in a free country we're standing on the backs and on the shoulders of absolute giants and while we have a ways to go by god that's some serious progress and i like the idea of focusing on the future and not the past and i think as a black man in this country i get some of the hardships trust me on that but how can we begin to heal by focusing on the good that we have done and building on that instead of standing by idling and watching the country burn it seems like both things have to be addressed it seems like you have to concentrate on the good things yeah and have to concentrate on the people like yourself that have made incredible progress in your life but i think we also have to concentrate on injustice absolutely and racial bias and racial injustice and all the problems that we're seeing you know i was ex i was having a conversation with a friend of mine we were talking about police and how important the police are but also how important it is to if you see something like uh like a the george floyd situation you see that video and then that one guy's horrible actions changes everyone's perception of the police yeah but meanwhile there's millions of interactions that police have with citizens that never go that way that are positive there's millions of great cops i don't know how many i don't know millions of cops i don't even know how many cops are how many cops are there in the country that's a good question that is a good question how many police officers are there in the country let's find out but either way most of them i feel first of all it's an insanely difficult job yes it is and when you you don't the the good altercations they don't go viral of course you know so we have this distorted perception of what happens when cops meet people here it goes in 2019 there's 697 195 000 full-time law enforcement officers 697 000 wow okay so it's not millions but i would say that there that you're right there are actually millions of interactions with our citizens for a year yes millions and most of them don't go viral because they're fairly normal licensed registration here you go you were speeding i'm sorry here's a citation or here's a warning or whatever the [ __ ] the situation is that's right those problems like the george floyd thing they they they have to be addressed we can't have those anymore especially when they can go viral because it's not just this one moment the problem is this one moment can change everyone's perceptions of cops and then you have all this crazy talk like we need to defund the police right yeah yeah you lifted your hands like please stop that because that's that's that's ridiculous and the people who end up suffering the most when you defund the police are actually minority communities with people that look like me in them and if you actually talk to a lot of minority communities they don't want to defund the police they just want the police to do better right exactly yeah and that's where the problem lies because you know i was talking to jocko chuckle willing on the podcast about that and jacob was like this defund the police talk is the wrong answer the right answer is more funding and more training he said i think they should be doing 20 of their time training will he do the training he would yeah jocko would do it would be awesome yeah i mean he he's a that's a leader you know i mean he's a guy who he voted 100 yeah undeniable so his his perception is that what we're dealing with is people that are untrained uh under-motivated underappreciated and some of them just bad people that's right like the the the guy in the george floyd case whatever the [ __ ] is bad actor yeah exactly bad human being that probably had been bad for a long time had several instances on his record that were similar a guy who's been probably you know whether he's [ __ ] up because of the job or before the job or a combination of both things we got to figure out a way to leave those right he's got to go that should be like this is this is the poster boy for what's wrong with the system right it's not the system you don't throw the whole [ __ ] system out that's right i mean anybody who's ever been in a situation where you need the cops and they show up is a great sign of relief and you feel protected that's right and law enforcement and if that's ever happened to you and i hope it never does but if it has ever happened anybody listening then you'll appreciate the police this this is personal for me too joe because when i got out of west point 2004 it was during the abu ghraib scandal i don't know if you recall i recall you know we had a few idiots that treated some prisoners very poorly and posted the pictures up in the world saw that and i entered the military at a time where that was the perception of military officers and soldiers and that's not true right exactly i would never most of us would never behave that way and we condemn those actions we condemn that behavior yeah after the george floyd event actually went down to the houston uh police union to go talk to some of the police officers 100 of them all of them were disgusted yeah with how george floyd was treated so i don't think that's it that's not even an issue it's just that how do we then work with law enforcement to empower them to get rid of the people that we know are idiots yes yes yeah that should be the conversation but the problem is that conversation doesn't work on social media you know it's too nuanced there's too many layers to it there's there's too much talking has to be done when you write defund the police it's nice and clean yes you know it's three words it's easy and everybody goes yes headline and if you go along with it you're on the right side like yeah you're a good person yeah you know and you're like no we need cops oh you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] that's ridiculous yeah you see what charles barkley said after a few weeks back yeah he followed that yeah and his logic is actually quite sound especially even in houston texas where a lot of the affluent areas see they have their own police that are paid for by their own taxes that they pay in their own communities so if you talk about defending the police again you're not taking away the safety of those communities you're taking away the safety of black and brown people yes and he said that and he got crucified for it yeah and that's that's the problem we have right now joe like we could have both conversations well i think the problem is like he said something and then there's a lot of people that want to respond to that yeah right and they don't get a chance to so they just attack them on social media and it's like the louder their voices are the most and especially if you're someone of prominence if you have a platform you can attack him and you get a lot of credit for it you know and then people like you and this is this is one of the problems with social media that people say things not just because it's their opinion they say things because they want to get a reaction that's right they say things for likes they say things for for retweets right and they hide behind it yeah yeah and well it's easy to do you know it's a it's an easy time to snipe at people it is and you know i don't know first of all that brianna taylor situation tragic horrific complicated complicated here's the here's the big problem the war on drugs that's the big problem the big problem is you're having these no knock raids for i mean what was he supposed to be selling marijuana right i think he was selling marijuana that was the idea that he was i don't even know if he was but this was th so you're you're breaking down a door somewhere is that what it was about i believe so which is [ __ ] insane yeah right insane yeah that's insane period for that i agree insane this is how it all i mean when you have no knock raids yeah and you know if you're a person who's a homeowner and you believe in the second amendment and you have a firearm and you hear someone kicking down your door you have a right to defend yourself that's right so this guy shooting at the cops is a rational response to something he has no idea what's going on assumedly and if someone says open up it's the cops and kicks down the door it turns out to not be a cop turns out to be a rival drug dealer or just a thief right is that what the investigation revealed was it really they really didn't knock at all because i don't i believe i've heard i've seen both i've heard that they that there was a knock that certain neighbors did hear and then i've heard that it wasn't no knock i don't know what they did or didn't but here's the problem if you're a person that is alone in your home at night and someone says they're police how the [ __ ] do you know it's really the police that's true too how do you know that's true too like if i was going to kill somebody and i i wanted to open the door and say i'm the police yeah open up it's the police i mean it's 100 been done before it's logical yeah and if you're at home and you don't know and if you also if you're a black guy and you're paying attention to the news and you hear us the police that doesn't put you at ease right right right it's it's a horrible story it is it is and i think these are but these are the kind of anecdotal stories that we need to build and grow on yes right let's not let's not burn the country down because of them let's figure out how to write this and then change our doctrine and then train our forces better yeah so that they can better serve our communities and we can better serve them yeah what's really important to me is i heard a story when i went to go visit the police union and there was a spouse that was there and she told me you know wesley the best thing that i could hear every day is the sound of velcro i said what do you mean he said at the end of the day when i hit when i hear velcro at night it means that my spouse made it home alive so he's taking off his vehicle he's taking off his vest and then they have the thousands 600 and how many thousand people families have to deal with this every single solitary day yeah and most of them do a really good job yeah so so so the george floyd instance the brianna taylor instances i i want to use those to build and grow but i want to really hug our law enforcement officers and tell them hey you're doing a good job let's build and grow together yeah when i made mistakes as a kid you know you know my dad didn't just kick me out the house he taught me right from wrong so that i wouldn't make the same mistakes next time so we could all get better together well the pr if you talk to anyone who has this defund the police narrative i mean and there have been conversations with these people there's no real answer there's no real answer what do you do about violent crime and if you look at what happened in new york city murders have gone up some insane number i don't know what the i i watched a breakdown of the numbers of robberies have gone up murders have gone up it's [ __ ] insane and communities are calling for the police to be reinstated in these areas that's right and this is this is what happens when you have this online activist perspective and you apply it to the real world you have this defund the police and everybody's like yeah yes do it and then you go and do it yes and then what happens violence that's right you you have to have the [ __ ] police that's right when trump trump tweets law and order in all caps it's one of the rare times i go yeah yeah he went on a great tweet raid the other night after they juiced him up with steroids and let him out of the hospital it was [ __ ] i get all of them made me laugh it's funny i love the the video is like maybe i'm immune i don't know maybe i'm a music maybe [ __ ] but i laughed i laughed it was like this is the best i've felt in 20 years i was like there's a guy he's a savage 74 fat and eats nothing but mcdonald's fries and he beat her kicks cove in a couple of days and people like yeah but he's getting the right treatment but but the treatment's available can everybody get this treatment is this treatment in a [ __ ] gold mine in india somewhere and you have to you know send a guy in a llama down into a cave to get it no it seems like it's pretty common it's not and that's somebody and i you know we were talking about earlier you had it yeah my whole family had it but you had it like that that's right in and out that's right denver asymptomatic never had any issues my wife and daughter my wife had some symptoms as we talked about my daughter who's 20 20 months old no symptoms yeah little kids generally seem to have zero problem with it uh there's obviously exceptions but uh young folks like yourself seem to be able to just get through the breeze and healthy people healthy people yeah this is the big thing obviously you're fit fitness yeah where you have a strong body strong immune system healthy i'm sure you eat well yes i do yeah i mean that is what's pro what's wrong with this country we have a lot of people that are metabolically unhealthy and then when something happens anybody can't respond to it exactly exactly especially something new and weird like this covet 19. that's right meanwhile trump has all those things wrong with him and the medication's still fixed that's what's crazy doesn't work out he thinks his body's a battery and working out would like drain some of the battery i heard him explain that i was like i saw that what in the [ __ ] are you talking about that's not how that works that's literally not how it works opposite of how it works but meanwhile he's okay and obviously you got to give credit to walter reed you got to give credit to the hospital and all the doctors and all the amazing researchers that have put in the work to create those those treatments but here's a thought he has been one of the people that has been pushing for those experimental treatments and there's been a lot of resistance to that yes and uh i i think he's probably now one of the best arguments for those experimental treatments at this point 74. yes i got an email from a guy today he's like he's still five percent a good person that i respect still five percent likely to die i'm like what are you talking about yeah [ __ ] guy's doing speeches he looks great by the way when you're 74 you got a 30 likelihood of dying anyway period like what does the average age people die i think it's like 76. the median the me i saw this the other night the median age is 78. yeah okay so he's already fifty percent likely to die is that what that means what's the what's what's the median age of of our life expectancy in the u.s yeah it's not high 78. yeah so which would be his second term right when it ends right when it ends it would be joe biden's first term first let's start jamie what are you doing [Laughter] what were you about to play i was looking at something uh talking out there i've seen this being passed around online there's some people are comparing his timeline of diagnosis or covidien to herman cain's because he passed away after going to a rally i have it on screen okay there was a time period when he said he was feeling good and the doctors all said he was great and then he died like a week later a week later um so oh i've just seen this getting passed around a lot just like for conversation it's interesting um testpositive72 says he's improving seven eight so that's eight days later and then 28 days yeah so 13 days later doctor says he seems happy and then 12 days three days before he died he says he's really getting better yeah 12 days after that how old was herman cain uh good question the thing about uh anyone it's what else do you have going on you know do you have diabetes uh do you have copd yeah there's a lot of different factors even even obesity yeah 75 75 so he's in the neighborhood right there with trump because he easily i mean who knows what kind of treatment he got though maybe herman cain didn't get the same treatment that trump got sure i wonder what uh what remedies they gave him either way not good for 70 year old people to get it it is not also not good for seven-year-old people to get the flu it's not not good for them to get anything it's not and i think the way that we responded to this is is a bit overkill because i think there is a way for us to make sure that we keep the people who are at risk to get this virus and could potentially die from like my parents who are alive and well 71 72 years old they should probably stay home yes stay home wear a mask keep away from people you know and the beautiful thing about today is we do have well at least here we have this rapid response test at the studio i hope they have this rapid uh response or not rapid response but rap result test everywhere i mean if we can get to a point where we can i believe they're working on i read some saliva test where you lick a swab and you can find out within minutes yeah yeah i mean if we can get to that point where you have a 100 accurate test we can keep people away from sick people and that is that's the remedy to this whole thing is the more testing we can do the better yes the more knowledge we have the better the more we can track it the better there's nothing wrong with that i think we thought it was going to be way worse than it is i think that's what i thought i mean my look obviously i'm a [ __ ] and i'm not a doctor but when march was rolling around and everything was shutting down i was very nervous i was very nervous i was nervous for my family i was nervous about my mother and my father and i was nervous for older friends that i have and i was nervous for my obese friends i was like [ __ ] this is not good yeah you know and i was worried we're going to lose people uh looking this up i forgot yeah he also he was a cancer survivor in 2006. he is herman cain right yeah yeah yeah chance of surviving stage four colon cancer that's right so oh jesus did maybe have a pre-existing oh for sure the cdc came out and they said you know six percent of those who did pass from covid were were covet only deaths right which is some kind of something to point out too we're talking about you know our health and being healthy people and the obesity issue that we even have in america and there's a piece of also staying physically fit it's staying mentally fit as well they coincide with each other yes beating this virus i think a lot of it as well as your overall mentality how do you feel about yourself mind over matter in certain ways is something that i'm i'm a fan of because when you go into a situation i've read some studies you even hear about cancer people that have an optimistic outlook actually have a higher chance of beating cancer that's interesting yeah um i would agree with that tentatively yeah right because i think some diseases just [ __ ] you up yeah sometimes sometimes there's nothing you can do about it but there's a reason why the placebo effect works yes and it's because states of mind do have a profound effect on the human body you know in a way that we don't totally understand you know that's why uh i think meditation and breath work is very important people should do that all the time because it just helps alleviate anxiety and i think alleviating anxiety and alleviating a certain amount of stress is probably good for you and then also having as little burden in your life in terms of like negative relationships bad friends you can't trust people that are weighing you down all that kind of [ __ ] all that stuff compounds and has an effect on your immune system has an effect on your psyche has effect on your self-esteem how you feel about yourself how you feel about the world we have to work on all those things but we don't hear any of that all we hear about is wear our mask stay home that's right we got to shut down restaurants that's right shut down gyms are the craziest one that's the place where everybody should go yes to improve your body to be able to fight and ward off these kinds of viruses and diseases that's the best part about it yeah what they should do is put these big we got that air filter down there on the ground supposed to filter out all the bad whatever we got it's too loud the problem is too loud while we're is it on it's on very low it's not very low but when we crank it up to like full blast it sounds like there's a [ __ ] airplane in the room so but you can have those at the gym you can have those all over the place at the gym they're not that expensive and to keep people outside of the gym you are now compounding all those other things that's right you're giving people uh you're taking away this avenue that they have to alleviate stress which for me is gigantic i'm a different human i'm i'm two different people yes i'm the guy who doesn't work out and the guy works out and you want to hang out with the guy who works out all the time i'm super friendly i hug everybody the guy who doesn't work out is cranky he he's quick to judge things quick to say [ __ ] that guy that's right like all that all those you know what i mean like all those negative aspects i just i don't like that i don't want to be that way you know and i don't think anybody does and i think the best way to alleviate that is to clear the body of stress and when you tell people they can't go to the gym like come on man like in new jersey they were shutting down people working out in the parking lot that's right which is just bananas you know and the best thing for me and even running for office has been very busy with a 11 day old daughter 20 month old daughter and just running for congress in general and that is you have to carve out time to work out and i think it's important to me that i do something extremely difficult that might suck a little bit every single day it just keeps the mental edge it keeps the mental acuity up i had a an instructor in flight school uh he he would always say and he was my apache instructor he would always say you got to kill something every day even if it's an ant no matter how small [Laughter] just to keep the edge right that guy's a [ __ ] psycho jesus but that's the guy you want but that's the guy you want to break glass in case of war dude that's right you got to kill some every day even if it's no matter how small holy [ __ ] just just to keep the edge right jesus and i'm like and i feel the same way about working out you got you got to keep the edge you got to challenge your mind you got to challenge your body every day when you force yourself to do it yeah 100 of the time don't you feel better after you've worked out 100 100 now you now going into it you're like this is not the day that i really want to do this yeah well the beautiful thing about like this is sober october for me and one of the things that i pledge is that during sober october i'm gonna work out i'm doing something every single day so when i know i have to but when i know i have to and then i do it i get it done but i always work out but i take days off but now i'm wondering like do i take too many days off like maybe i'm being a [ __ ] like maybe maybe when i take two days off a week i really only need one and that other one is just a [ __ ] day right i'm not sure i'm not sure because it's kind of amazing when you have a set schedule when you have to do something that you get it done and you realize you can get it done when you require more of your body that's right and you think and then and then your body responds to stress and stimulus much better in other aspects that you don't even think about even if it's just you got to do 100 push-ups and 100 bodyweight squats that'll take 10 minutes that's not that much time or something but you can do it you can do that in 10 minutes yes i mean it can be done you do push-ups and sets at 20. and in between you do sets of 20 bodyweight squats and just bang them out left and right left and right you'll be tired as [ __ ] yep 10 minutes 15 minutes yeah and so like i only have 10 minutes good go to work do that that's right and you can do that and then you also feel like you then you've also accomplished something yes and also i like the idea of what i just did something or if you do this i did something that actually how many people would have actually just chosen to do this for 10 minutes right that makes me different yeah that gives you an edge it gives you the edge it gives you an edge and it makes you feel better about yourself like you did what you needed to do that's right yeah i think that that's a a great message that we can get out there to the world and i've been promoting that message for a long time is that when you challenge your mind and you force your body to do things you you increase your ability to do difficult things it increases your overall ability to do difficult things that's right yeah that's right the days the days that are roughest for me on the campaign trail are the days that i didn't work out i'm sure and my campaign manager knows it too he could tell now what is the campaign trail been like what is which in general what do you have today goodness yeah so with covet things have obviously changed the way that we do things dramatically by the way if everyone is noticing that both me and wesley are sweating the [ __ ] ac in this room is [ __ ] out on us and it's now it doesn't even say yeah the thermostat's broken it's not even it was 78 degrees when we walked in here with all this equipment and then all this intense talking here's the thing but we've worked well we work out so we can handle it yes it's a slow sweat we can do it yes but i mean if people like what's going on yeah these guys have they're just sitting there why are they sweating they talk about working out they're not doing anything they're sweating i can open the door and get some airflow don't worry about it we're good um so tell me about the campaign trail like what what does it entail and how long has have you been doing when i met you in houston was what july that's right that's right yeah dan crenshaw um at the houston improv great spot with willie d great job by the way thank you thank you very much great job um when did it start and what what does it entail like what do you have to do so i announced i announced about a year and a half ago and what you have to do is basically work every day tirelessly try to reach as many voters in the district as possible and as efficiently as you can and there's avenues in which you can do that so there's broadcast television there's mail there's digital there's knocking on doors there's person to person stuff what's really lacking because the covet is the latter the person-to-person stuff so you're not really allowed to have big gatherings like you used to be able to do for you know fundraisers and meet and greets and things like that so you have to get creative this has now evolved into a lot of more zoom calls it's evolved to what we're doing in houston some front yard meet in greece that are socially distanced and we make sure that we keep everybody safe and everyone's wearing a mask but we are still out in the community actually talking to people because there's absolutely nothing like meeting someone in person yeah right even even meeting you in person at the improv it's just way different i've been following you for years but like it's just a different touch when you actually see the person and so that's what the challenge has been so what we are doing is just lining up as many front yard backyard meet and greets throughout the district as possible and i think we've done a pretty good job at getting out in the community so when you say backyard or front yard meet and greets like how do those come about like what do you do yeah well we have people that reach out to us and they'll say hey look you know we have we have we have a community here people want to meet you we can get 10 15 20 people out here that usually set up some chairs or just stand around i'll come over meet everybody the best of my ability give them kind of my talk answer questions that they would have of me on how they want to see government run for the future how can i continue to be their humble servant what can we do to save our country what can we do to kind of quell a lot of the division that we're seeing right now and then i go off to the next one it's very efficient it's very good and i think a lot of people have been very receptive to it too now what other issues do you think are uh concerns that people have that maybe you you have a unique perspective on that you can help like what are the big issues do you see in the country that you think that need to be addressed in a way that you are not seeing being addressed currently so i'm a houston boy uh born born and raised first football game i went to was for the houston oilers back in the back in the love you blue days and i don't know what the love you blue days are get out of here the houston orleans i don't know [ __ ] jamie knows tell me what is it i saw warren moon play on his birthday did you really yeah that's the browns i don't remember who won the game i was only like eight but oh yeah that's awesome i've been to norway's game too that's awesome there you go yeah so they're playing the astronauts i've never seen a football game live you're making that out nope you're dead serious no i've only watched the super bowl like twice ever that's it it's only football you've never watched it you didn't go to the super bowl no no never been to a football game live ever do you plan on doing it no no is there a reason for this i mean it's a great sport and everything but i got [ __ ] to do i'm the wrong guy i know i get it people they're like what the [ __ ] is wrong i've had artie lang yelled at me what do you mean he yelled at me i don't know anything about sports he's like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you i'm like hey man i mean he asked me want to ask me some [ __ ] about fighting i know a lot of [ __ ] about that muay thai a lot of [ __ ] about jiu jitsu i know a lot of [ __ ] about the ufc yeah but that's it that's it i'm sorry i'm a one-trick pony it's too funny well oilers are basically called the houston oilers okay and you know this is an oil and gas town and i am not a climate denier um like a lot of millennials quite frankly i i do believe that that human beings can influence the climate but houston is known as the energy capital of the world and encompassed in the energy capital of the world is the energy district of the world which is congressional district 7 where i am running in in houston and the narrative that i am seeing about fossil fuels doesn't necessarily jive well with me at all well let's talk about that yeah i'd love to talk to you about that yeah um california recently the state that i escaped i want i want to ask you about that yeah after this actually escaped i feel so happy welcome welcome to texas too by the way appreciate it yeah when i when i saw you was uh right around the time that i made the decision yeah um tom papa my buddy who was just here yesterday sent me a picture of uh los angeles and obviously this is because of the fires but also what the [ __ ] is that come on look at that look at that it's massive traffic and unbelievable the sky is a weird shade of gray and brown and he said you've poisoned my la mind with that picture and i said you're in the wrong place my brother now you know he's in the wrong place he knows he knows where to go this in texas i've always loved texas i filmed uh i filmed one of my specials here i did one of my cds here back in 99 the first cd i ever did i filmed at the houston laptop in 1999 the one on river oaks i know the one yeah it's not there anymore it was one of the best spots in the country i'm uh i love texas i've always loved texas and it was one of the places where when i thought about getting out of la i was like there's only a couple places i'm interested in i'm interested in montana because of the beauty and just the wildness and i want to live in a place with grizzly bears and colorado i love that weed legal legal mushrooms now too and then um texas i just i just love i love people from texas i love the attitude people are super friendly like they have a distorted perception what texas is i think texas in a lot of ways is what other people think of when they think of america yeah i think wild [ __ ] with guns and tigers in their backyard big trucks and big trucks and big trucks right and barbecue you know i mean that is texas in a lot of ways but um so let's get back to what we were saying though yeah um you were talking about oil when i was saying that i escaped los angeles one of the things that's going on is um gavin newsom has passed this new law saying that they will will sell no cars that run on gasoline that are new after 2035 and a lot of people are freaking out and one of the things they're freaking out about is do you know how much lithium you're gonna have to pull out of the [ __ ] ground to make the batteries for all these electric cars and that this is not good for the environments right yeah the lithium mines like mining there's a great meat-eater podcast i want to encourage everybody to listen to my friend steve varnell's podcast and it's going on right now it's episode 241 uh half-life of never and it's all about the i think it's called the pebble mine or the pebble beach mine what is the mine that's going on there there's a project in alaska that they're gonna do uh i think it's called the pebble mont it's either the pebble of mine but pebble beach is like a golf course right yes it is i think it's called the pebble mine is that what it is um but this it's a cr it's a crazy copper and gold mine that they're proposing like one of the biggest mines in the world in alaska and it's near bristol bay which is like which one is it pebble mine pebble um it's near bristol bay which is the number one salmon fishing resource and salmon resource on a planet earth and they're they're saying it will destroy everything and these people want to do that to to pull minerals and and to pull gold and copper out of the ground it's going to devastate the environment and sulfur as well you're going to have to get through a shitload of sulfur and then move and distribute but that the podcast is eye-opening it's really fascinating but you got to mine to get lithium this is not good for the environment this is i mean and i'm a person with an electric car i have a tesla i love it got it got it but it's not this is not like one is awesome and perfect and the other one is terrible for everybody it's a combination of everything and that needs to be the solution for the future i'm also not a big fan of the government saying when an industry is supposed to end yes i'm a big fan of the government empowering the private sector to innovate to get to the next you know affordable renewable source that's going to happen it's my opinion if jeff bezos doesn't get there first the first trillionaire in my opinion who's already born is going to be the person that comes up with an abundant renewable source for the future that everyone can't afford now i i get the green new deal and attendance of it what they're trying to do but what's not addressed in that is global warming and the operative word being global if we don't get india and china and russia and africa and south america to reduce their carbon footprint with us you can literally destroy the oil and gas industry here in the us at no gain to the globe that doesn't make sense to me that is such an important point that's so important nobody's talking about the other country so china and india are building four coal plants per month and it's not a case of if we build it they will they will come that's not how this works in fact our energy independence is also an issue of national security as well we're energy independent why because of fracking that quite frankly joe biden and commodore harris actually want to do away with by 2035 as well it's actually a national agenda and so we are reducing our carbon footprint because of fracking because natural gas burns cleaner but most importantly joe 20 years ago we would kill a bad guy in the middle east and then we have to turn around and ask these same countries for resources and oil that's a conflict of interest if you could imagine of course so we don't have to do that anymore so when we kill gossam suleimani outside of baghdad airport who was a bad guy responsible for actually killing some west point graduates actually in iraq we don't have to ask them for oil so this is an issue where we have to marry economics innovation and of course make sure that we uh are good stewards of this earth right but right now there's roughly 1 billion with a b roughly 1 billion light trucks and vehicles in the world today that are gas powered and over the course of the next 20 years the world is going to add another billion vehicles and of that billion 750 million of them are going to be gas powered again it's not a california problem it's a global issue that we have to take a look at from a defense standpoint i flew apache helicopters and we have a joke in the army how do you know if if somebody flew apaches we will tell you we always do and what's funny about the apache and about destroyers and about f-22s and that's you can't fuel them on solar and wind we literally aren't going anywhere for the next few generations what i want to hear the conversations shift to is more of the idea of us working with these oil and gas companies to innovate for the future and they want it too it's a matter of time until we get there but let's bring them along with the conversation and not demonize them and as somebody that's houston born and bred this is the conversation that's near and dear to my heart because again it's the energy capital of the world and i am all for solar i am all for wind i am all for renewables i get it but it's a combination of all of the above not not in ore conversation now let's what is the green new deal can you lay that out for us yes what are they what are they looking to do hit us with a green new deal you know one big thing that joe biden talks about and what bernie sanders was talking about as well as being carbon neutral by 2035 which effectively is an end to the oil and gas industry in the united states that's one that's one tenet of it uh another one is fracking bands and again as i just articulated this is the very technology that's actually reducing our carbon footprint also just more restrictions on oil and gas companies to be able to drill and find resources as well and it is a job killer in houston texas particularly as we recover from covet 19 and we've been hit pretty hard because if you noticed the oil and gas industry has been hit pretty hard too started off uh with just obviously a shortage of of of demand because people just stopped driving and that really drove costs down tremendously and so we have to recover from this thing and the way to do it is not to employ more restrictions on an already hurting industry that quite frankly has got to be around rather you like it or not also the byproducts of petrochemicals as well this microphone this mug your phone is hydrocarbons the shoes on your feet is all by-products of the oil and gas industry and so what people don't realize is that the chairs that they sit in the silverware that they eat off of where they eat sleep breathe and live the mattress that they're sleeping on is fossil fuels we literally aren't going anywhere i understand the benevolence of the green new deal it's always good in theory i got it i think i think if we could magically snap our fingers and the world could be just carbon neutral that that that sounds great that sounds great but that's not how the that's not how this works we are always about progression this country is always about innovation and progression we've been doing this for generations let's continue that progression by enabling again the private sector to innovate to the next level if you're paying attention to what the green new deal says it basically just demonizes an entire industry and i think for lack of understanding what the industry does for the world is there in the green new deal is there a solution for what they deem the problems of the oil and gas industry do they have a replacement for those resources so there lies a point hydrocarbons are a storable energy that have a lot of power in them and that's actually the reason why the world uses them bottom line is is this you can't turn your lights on the world can't turn their lights on the u.s can't turn their lights on for the time being without oil and gas whether on the gas industry if we were able to miraculously even attempt to turn this entire country into a renewable source it's just not possible i don't know exactly what the numbers are but we would actually only be able to fuel less than last i read eight percent of our world of the united states's energy demands if we were able to completely transform to renewable resources so that's just wind and solar that's yeah wind solar and battery lithium ion you know these kinds of these kind of they also require something to charge them yes what about nuclear because yeah one of the things that is really uncomfortable for people is that nuclear power is one of the cleanest sources of power that we know of it's just we know about disasters that's right we know about fukushima we know about three mile island we know about all the chernobyl chernobyl we know about these disasters which in many cases are indicative of old technology yes like fukushima they really didn't know how to shut it down yes which is [ __ ] bananas that they decided to build it anyway mind-boggling they're like we'll figure it out but we'll worry about it later but they there's there's ways of doing nuclear right yeah where you have very little environmental damage that's right but that's a you just bring up nuclear power and everybody's like we're gonna die that's right everyone freaks out yeah yeah and they think what do you think about nuclear so this is this is again the importance of innovation you brought up an excellent point you see in past technologies we didn't have the ability to be able to really create something without understanding what the worst outcomes could possibly be do you think over the course of the last 50 years we've actually advanced to know more and to be able to do better and to be more effective with how we how we do this of course we have right but it kind of goes back to the oil and gas industry as well when you have the over demonization of an energy source people just as we were talking about they just shut it off right it becomes a headline that's it i don't want anything else to do with it oh no we saw a bad incident that's it it becomes headline news instead of us saying wait a minute if you're going to try to tell me that 2020 was the same as the 70s and the 60s and the 50s from a technological standpoint it's ridiculous i mean look at your tesla that you drive no i mean that that is a technological marvel and advancement in itself and now we're producing it on a mass scale thank you elon musk and again even the production of the tesla that doesn't mean we do away with the oil and gas industry oh we could have both let's continue to do both so from a nuclear standpoint i also think that that's gotten demonized as well because of some incidences and we need to realize that from a technological standpoint we are certainly further along than we were before let's pursue this let's empower these companies to come up with a safe way of building these these plants and also making sure that everybody can stay safe in the future what i've actually heard discussed that's kind of fascinating is um technologies that could be on the horizon that can actually pull carbon and pull particles from the atmosphere yes that they can develop essentially enormous air filters that can be used in high pollution areas and you know cities and urban centers and they actually can pull pollution out of the air and potentially use that carbon and it can actually be a resource that's exactly right right so telling people think about that pretty crazy but it kind of makes sense right like if you can put it out there then it's there well if you can push it out can you extract it it seems like you should be able to mean we were extract nitrogen from the atmosphere right i mean that's how they make a lot of fertilizer that's right there's got to be a way to take that carbon out of course there is and and again people want to look at where we are right now maybe we aren't there now right but we can easily be there in the not so distant future sure well 150 years ago we were riding horses thank you yeah and and think about what you just said that wasn't that long ago by the way that's pretty recent that's crazy i mean in world war one in world war one they were still using livestock yeah yeah bananas yeah i mean think about that i know yeah now we're flying apaches it's uh it's hard for people to once they have it in their mind that they're doing a good thing like the proponents of the green new deal they're doing a good thing this is the way and anyone who opposes that or anyone who even has debate about it is on the wrong side you are on the side of the fossil fuel industry you've been paid off you're a shill right you don't care about the environment you don't care about our children and then they'll propose it this way that you know this person does not care about the future of this country we're going to burn look what's happening in california this is trump's fault this is like we were discussing this in the podcast yesterday it didn't matter who became president in 2016. the exact same conditions would be in place here this battleship is an enormous thing it's hard to turn around you think that somehow or another if hillary clinton was president that california wouldn't be on fire right now the exact same thing would be happening a hundred percent there's no other way around it and and what i always say to people that have to have this conversation with and again i've i have two kids at the house and it is my opinion at this point with two baby girls that it is incumbent upon us to make sure that we hand them a better world than we inherited yes we were like again you know the birth of a child is a is a spiritual thing we were saying this before this podcast youngest and how crazy it is it's crazy it's like it's like it's life-changing my youngest is 10 but still i i think back and you know there's times when i'm alone where i just go i can't even believe i have children i can't i can't believe that it's a thing that a person who comes out of your own dna is now walking and talking and hanging out with you yes yes and and destroying our living room live and breathe yeah for sure so of course i care about of course i care about them yeah and of course i care about the environment i just have i just want to take a pragmatic approach to making sure that yeah well we're so polarized today if you don't agree with me you must be evil and this is this is our perspective or you must be naive or you must be foolish this is these are the perspectives that are the narrative that you see on social media today which is where so many people are forming their opinions and then arguing them and it's insanity yeah it's it's such a crazy time where people want people i was having a conversation with a friend of mine today they were talking about this new social media platform where this person was arguing don't hear people's opinions what we need to do is de-platform them right like what this is that's insane so everybody has to agree with you and you don't i don't even know if you're right you don't even know if you're right the way you find out you're right right you got to talk to other people right like there's a lot of times i've talked to people and i went huh okay yeah i'm wrong okay like that's important the whole point yeah you have to have these conversations um what the proponents of the green new deal what are they proposing in terms of replacing fossil fuels and the these things that we're relying on currently to power everything and have the country running exactly how it's running now and therein lies the problem they're not they're not so what are they saying though when they're when they're questioning this like what are we going to do in 2035 in terms of like how we're gonna keep the lights on i have no idea really and this is and this is literal this is literally part of my problem and that is if you aren't going to tell me a substantive viable solution by if so if you want to say that's it snap my fingers like thanos that's it we're going to be carbon neutral here and okay okay so what's the path to do so what resources are we going to use to get there how are we going to replace these resources and again i'm not a climate denier i keep saying this over and over again but but nothing's being proposed that's rational and reasonable that's actually addressing global warming it completely leaves out the other countries it completely leaves out the globe and that's problematic to me yes yeah what they so they're not even discussing it at all no they're just conveniently it sounds it sounds good it's it sounds good yeah it does sound good sounds amazing don't get me wrong it sounds great but it's not the name of it green new deal who doesn't like green things it's beautiful the biden says he doesn't believe in the green new deal though right he was no he so first he said so first he said he did and then he backed or walked that back ever so slightly and said well no no no not the green new deal this entirety tenants of the great new deal did he describe which tenants translation to me is it's the green new deal are you troubled by the fact that the democrats have this gentleman running for president that seems at the very least like his better days are behind him it got to the point for where where at first when i watched the corn pop video have you seen that one yes the corn pop one what in the [ __ ] is that video it was the most bizarre thing ever my most bizarre things i've ever seen how about all the kids behind them talking like they don't even pay attention to this guy was it was the weirdest thing it was like really literally and i sent it to my brother and then because he's my best friend we talked like four times a day and i said to rendon and he's just like is this even real i got hairy legs there's so many of the blonde and it was really weird that was that was back in december and i thought it was funny and then now i don't think it's very funny anymore actually and this is this is this is very dangerous i think for the country and we need to be very careful uh with who we put forward um there is a clear decline in mr biden i think we can all agree with that i think we can all say that the reason why calmly harris was chosen was probably to make sure that someone of a sound or mind can actually run the country yeah and and young and healthy and she's probably going to be the president i mean that's that if he wins that she will be really pulling the strings no you just came from california yeah and again i don't know politics democrat republican this is this is texas democrats republicans in texas that that's fine you understand this do you know how left and how liberal you have to be to be a senator from california how left extremely as left as you could probably be if you think about it that's not where the values of texas are though and so we have to be very careful is in the idea of making sure that if she's going to be running the country you do understand that those values are going to be the issues that are going to be running texas as well and that's just not or i believe texas or really the nation is i think we are far more center than that yeah um i agree and i think the center is probably where the rational discussions are taking place but everyone's scared to be in the center oh yeah because if you're in the center you're not supported by the left you're not supported by the right and that's the problem with this country right now is that we're so divided and people seek comfort in being connected to a certain ideology whether you're full-on liberal or full-on conservative this is so another reason why i'm running is because i always like to add perspective and add color to the history of this country that's why i bring in my great great grandfather and i always talk about the civil war so one of my favorite stories about west point is there is a monument it's called trophy point it's actually one of the most prominent pieces at west point at one point it was the largest single piece of granite in the history of the world and then the world at the time that was in a monument it's beautiful it overlooks the hudson river surrounding trophy point are civil war era cannons that are that are buried into the ground muzzle first why why during the civil war you had west point classmates that were friends that were trained together that were in class together that would graduate and depending on where you were from geogra geographically some would go and fight for the north and others would go and fight for the south and you had west point classmates killing each other the reason why trophy point or battle monument was created and the reason why those cannons are surrounding it buried into the ground muzzle first is to commemorate the notion of never aiming our cannons at our fellow countrymen again that's division when i think about the vietnam era when you had soldiers that were drafted by the way not volunteer they were drafted they'll go off to war to do our country's biddings and they would lose limbs and most importantly pieces of their mind because of ptsd that they that they would never get back for the rest of their natural lives and they'd come back home they'd get off a plane and it would be spat on by fellow americans joe i came home to a hero's welcome and the first thing people tell me all day every day is thank you for your service that's the vision my parents who are alive and well today they're in their 70s as i was telling you earlier my dad was born in 1949. the civil rights act was passed in 1964 so he spent a lot of his teenage years in a segregated south he's seen the back of buses and he has seen colored only water fountains he's alive and well today that's division so i want to add perspective to how far this country has really come and we've got to understand how do we build on these things and also understand that this pendulum shifts back and forth i think people like dan crenshaw are people that want to make sure that we bring this pendulum back this way by just being reasonable human beings yes that's that's it we could disagree politically yeah how could be reasonable people that's one of his best qualities it is he's so measured and so rational and reasonable and you know and when he talks he says things that make sense yes he's logical and uh i mean as well trying to tell him to run for president how old is he now he's 36. he's 36. so that's how old you have to be right 36. yeah yeah he'd be he'd be a great one i tell people all the time people are like how about you two together my goodness no dan you know you know how seals are [Laughter] no tell me i i gotta ask this i gotta ask this the other day i'm gonna ask you know what's what's the issue you know i i have an issue with the country and wesley i'm concerned about where we're going to be in 10 years and i retorted why dan krishna could be the president right and i think that would be an excellent thing to be honest with you yeah to have a leader like that as a president i would vote for him i would vote for him myself and so i always look at americans like him that get into the breach when it seems like it's dark it seems like it's bad we are the ones that step in and pull that pendulum back by just being reasonable people that's why he's here what's wrong with sales seals seals are intense oh yeah seals are intense seals are uber competitive and they are very intense and they are my most favorite people on the entire planet because what they do and their dedication to service sacrifice and if you ask a navy seal to give their life for this country tomorrow they don't even think about it they don't think twice about it they'll do it so i kind of say that tongue-in-cheek because quite frankly i love them but that level of intensity is why america is always so different it's that passion it's that love it's that it's that it's that just that camaraderie that seals have you've been around quite a few of them i mean i have too and it is it is hilarious to watch them compete against each other it's awesome yeah but i love it too because i think that's that's kind of the american warrior ethos that's somewhere in all of us they are just at the tip of the spear when it comes to exemplifying it and that's why when dan crenshaw calls me up and it says hey man i got an idea for a video you win and i was like okay tell me more he goes well first i'm gonna jump out of an airplane and i'm like sign me up fine that video is crazy it's awesome that's a great we should could we play it sure you know the video jamie yeah sure the text game reloaded jamie will find it i don't think we get in trouble it's not about trouble they have to be known notified i guess that oh oh well we'll let them know [Laughter] i mean it's uh yeah it's not gonna hurt it's only gonna help oh yeah um so he made it so can i okay yeah i for sure um so anyway so keep going so he tells you he's going to jump out of an airplane he's going up after a plane of it and then he's like do you want to be in it and my next question was so so can i wear my flight suit it's four minutes long too we can't play the whole thing we can't i do want to watch the whole thing for four minutes is that bad i'm just i'm asking probably the problem is there's not a lot of talking crenshaw command center this is fun too it's also kind of ridiculous like you can see thing with his bionic eye yeah by the way they're probably about three years away from giving him one of those oh yeah after this yeah to save texas save texas huh well that people are genuinely worried about texas going blue right this is why we're running and there's a lot of people that are using this hashtag turn texasblue as if that's gonna fix things yes there you go wesley hunt and he's on the plane right now and that's him live too oh yeah of course it is there he goes that crazy [ __ ] he's probably so excited to risk his life like yay something exciting this is great oh look at the landing superhero landing the superhero landing and then all of a sudden he's got a suit on it's so scary it's great it's so silly and awesome at the same time look at you don't know how to fly one of these things dan crenshaw i'm putting the team together wesley you guys are terrible actors shows all your credentials i think august is going to want to come too so that's me august fluger he's wearing he's running out here too awesome august district 11. he's an air force academy guy f22 pilot amazing guy what were you doing working under a helicopter i have no idea i was doing the typical air force fixing the army this guy this guy there bro he could have just texted me man why you gotta jump out of the airplane because they've been waiting easier cooler to jump never mind we get the point you'll get the flight people can watch it it's available on is it on dan's youtube page or yeah it's at texasreloaded.com okay there you go texasreloaded.com it's on youtube it's on his instagram it's all over the place there you go save texas yeah people are really worried about all folks like me moving from uh california yeah worried they're worried about you know what's funny is that we want we will come one come all give me your tired rapport come on to texas but you got to understand something yeah you're coming here because of low taxes and low regulation and you want to live your life in liberty and make sure that you can protect yourself and protect your family and that means you have to you have to vote a certain way and that's why we kind of r texas don't turn this place into what you fled that's exactly right yeah that's what matthew mcconaughey was telling that's exactly right and we have to kind of put that out there to people all right then i understand people have different views and whatnot but you're here for a reason yeah well the thing is you can be socially liberal yes you can but also understand that there's there's certain things that are just not wise yes and a lot of those things are ruining california that's right there's there's over regulation in california that's taxes off the [ __ ] chart the tax the taxes are so crazy there and they're trying to raise them up to 16.8 percent and then what are you going to do with that money [ __ ] it up worse you have more money to [ __ ] things up i just don't understand their logic of of opening and not opening things and especially now when you look at the deaths like when they want to talk about covet cases the cases are low they're not that high and the deaths are very low it's like we it's we've kind of got a handle on what this is you can let people open up their businesses so you can let people wear masks and be careful and take care of themselves and take vitamin d and zinc and vitamin c and we can we can at least get back to some semblance of normality that's right but they don't want to do that for some weird reason and this is the one that drives me crazy they keep saying after the election yeah they're not even trying to hide the fact that they're politicizing this like they won't let kids go back to school in california until after the election like what the [ __ ] does the election have to do with anything how is that scientific like how is november 3rd how is that your science point it's not again this is what makes texas texas we just believe in liberty yes we believe in allowing and empowering the citizens to make your own personal informed decisions for your own life yes if you want to take the risk then then we allow you to do so go buy a tiger how did you know i was going to say that you know the statistic about tigers here what there's more tigers in captivity in texas than all of the wild of the world i did not know that there's more tigers in private collections in texas in texas than all of the wild of the planet earth sometimes a little bit too much it can cause problems that's the legit i had a whole bit about it in my 2016 netflix special yeah that's a legit statistic i guess i'm not getting a dog i'm buying a tiger i had mike tyson on he was explaining to me his title here his estimates two thousand five thousand tigers living in the southern state of the united states that's unbelievable so what's even more incredible is two thousand to 5 000. that's a pretty big pretty big deal it could be more tigers and meanwhile they don't know that means they could be like 3 000 unaccounted for tigers that we don't even even know about yeah so there's roughly 3 800 tigers living in the world globally there's as many as 5 000 tigers living just in texas just in texas yeah i'm sure and i'm sure that picked up after after the tiger kingdom got oh i'm sure i'm sure people like hey i didn't know how to get a tiger i was appalled at how easy it was to get a tiger [Laughter] not only that how cheap it was to get a tiger how much does the tiger cost i think it was like was it like 600 bucks oh it wasn't yeah it was a puppies there are puppies that are more expensive our fire member right oh for sure i i believe i paid more than that for my dog yeah i thought i thought for sure this would be i mean thousands of minimum thousands of dollars yes i would thought like a hundred thousand dollars for us with these little tiger cubs and it's just like yeah i'm like 500 bucks a piece i'm like are you kidding me jamie's got something here oh my goodness 500 bucks for 500 bucks you could buy an orange bengal tiger and tie it up in your yard no questions asked a white tiger will cost you 5 000 and up it's all perfectly legal in texas the exotic animal trade is a billion dollar industry wow that's nuts they're endangered but you can buy them for 500 bucks that's right that's bonkers is this crazy i mean what kind of regulation do they have on the size of your yard oh my gosh i don't wasn't there a situation where kids bunch of kids were getting high and they went into an abandoned house and they found a tiger inside of it i thought yeah like i'm like that's the most texas [ __ ] i've ever heard you're like moving to texas after you saw that outfit that's not why but that is one of the most texas things i've ever [ __ ] heard it is you're in an abandoned house it just happens to have a tiger in it that's that's that's that's absolutely insane what does it say what's up what's the uh title cannabis smoker finds tiger an abandoned house in texas what'd you do if you saw a tiger well you would hope it's been eating right i hope that [ __ ] is full you know your lunch is which is what that turns into i mean you ever seen those um ligers absolutely that is the most weird [ __ ] ever because they're massive too yeah apparently the g i don't remember if it's from the male or the female which has to be which i think it has to be like a male lion a female tiger and then for whatever reason the genes for growth regulation don't exist so they you have this thing that can be like 15 feet long it's [ __ ] massive it's so big but they're pretty chill that's the other thing they like they don't necessarily attack people any more than like a regular tiger so let me get this let me get this right joe you're going to buy a lager no no no you're going to violate it bro i got a golden retriever that's it i have the calmest dog of all time look at the size of the thing in the upper left gosh look at that thing look at that what in the [ __ ] god damn that's big click on that jamie yeah what what it's unbelievable yeah that's the dude for the movie look at the size of that thing my lord that is so big that doesn't even look real that lady's just feeding in a bottle i mean yeah right that's like giving it a shot you give it a shot of milk a shot glass of milk yeah um texas has got some wacky laws yeah yeah but again we've freedom liberty yes these are just tenants that we have here that we just adhere to and also friendliness yeah like people go out of the way to be nice here like drivers are more polite i noticed that they cut you off less they're they're generally they'll let you in the lane easier it's like there's a it's a more polite society and the thing about uh austin that i really enjoy is it's just not that many people too there's there's something about enormous populations where you kind of like lose your appreciation to people because there's too many of them they become a problem like all these people on the highway all these people at the mall these people like you don't appreciate them as much right you know and so and another place that i find similar to texas is actually iowa so my wife is from iowa um and i have the most amazing mother-in-law ever she's great and when you go to iowa people are just flat out kind to you yeah they're just nice well it gets so [ __ ] cold in the winter they're gonna have to be nice together yeah i got a good buddy of mine lives in iowa yeah shout out to john dudley okay there you go yeah he uh he lives in iowa he's his reasons are the most nutty ever he's a deer hunter okay and uh he has an enormous lease like well he owns land and he leases atlanta so all together he's got like more than 700 acres i believe in in iowa just for deer hunting uh i don't think i want to stay i don't want to give out his spot but he's uh he's got you yeah but he's um he's uh he's a rare dude he's he's a very famous bow hunter okay and so his he teaches archery teaches bow hunting okay and teaches it online he's got this knock-on archery set up like they set up bows for people and all the stuff stuff makes videos of bow hunting but literally move to iowa because the best whitetail deer hunting in the world arguably is you know it's arguable whether it's kansas or illinois or iowa but iowa's in the mix and his place is pretty special i went hunting there a couple of years ago and hopefully i'll be i'll get to go back here late november it's pretty awesome it's it's it's amazing yeah it's pretty awesome when you drive down the road you better go slow because those [ __ ] they're everywhere they're just darting out everywhere all over the place everywhere and they will destroy your vehicle they will destroy your vehicle they he he gets some big deer there and on his place because he cultivates it only for bow hunting oh my gosh yeah and he knows what he's doing he puts up food plots and stuff and it's a it's a part of the culture there that if you don't live in an area that has a culture that revolves around deer hunting whether it's uh you know wisconsin has it other parts of the world have it but it's it's different it's different there that's right yeah so it's absolutely it's absolutely incredible and i believe the state's actually buckshot only oh really isn't it you can't use a rifle nope mmm no that's how massive that makes things challenging like shooting a cannonball but yeah those slugs yeah those are kind of crazy yeah yeah it's um it's just it is though in that way like you get a lot of farmers a lot of hard-working people and generally very nice they wave to you on the roads and and again not that many people it's a smaller population of people so my wife she moved down here and it kind of she fits in seamlessly she'll always say the kind of values of iowa are like kind of the kind of values of of texas yeah but without the black ice right that's the worst dude when you don't know and then all of a sudden your car's like you're spinning and you're spinning around in circles yeah on the highway yeah i grew up in boston so uh you know i experienced a lot of snow and a lot of black ice that i that's the weirdest one because it just rains a little bit then it freezes over and then i was on the it was a funny thing when i was in high school uh me and my friend john were on the roof of uh i lived on a hill and we were on the roof of the garage drinking watching people slide down the street and slam in the curves and bounce off of each other because one day the whole street became just like a skating rink just all black ice and we sat up on that roof for hours watching people slide so we called the cops and we're like hey man people keep slamming so the cops did it they came sliding down and they slammed into the curb and they bounced off the [ __ ] it was not terrible like but that's a you know if you live in anywhere where it gets that cold that's uncommon yes i was i was in grad school at cornell up in ithaca so i i mean it was just it was just the same yeah it got to the plot i just stayed off the road the one thing i do like about snow though is it makes everybody go mellow everybody mellows down it chills it shows you i just just drive slowly if you've got good tires and a four-wheel drive that'd be all right you'll be all right yeah it just it also makes you feel like more comfortable like you huddle up in the home you appreciate the fire you appreciate it cozy yeah yeah yeah and it's the weird thing is the eerie quiet outside yeah when you go outside in snow because the snow acts as like a sound deadening for everything so if you've got 12 inches of snow on the ground and it's snowing outside you don't hear a [ __ ] thing it's except for your steps as you crunch into the snow that's all you hear yeah but they're quiet it's really awesome it's pretty amazing yeah but that's the problem with iowa is the cold that's it and it's flat as [ __ ] it it's a lot of corn too yeah it's a lot of corn but yeah yeah there's good things yeah listen um a lot of people are exiting california and they're trying to find places to go and they're going to bozeman montana and they're going to arizona they're going they're going all over the place and they're realizing that this uh this situation this coveted situation that we're in that's terrible it's being handled differently yes in different places yeah i have friends that come from california and they come out here and they're like holy [ __ ] it's like everyone's normal that's right like yeah you could be normal man that's right wear a mask don't be an [ __ ] and yeah you could go to a restaurant so the good thing good thing about houston is obviously we we took it very seriously as we should and i would never tell anybody not to but but you're starting to see glimpses of life again you're starting to see people kind of starting to go out there's restaurant rules so if you're walking around you're wearing a mask but if you're sitting down it's okay california they want you to put your mask on in between bites now it's just that's a new thing let me think about it shut the [ __ ] up please shut the [ __ ] up so if you're outside you have to eat outside anyway do you have to do it outside is that what the new rule is outside you have to put your mask on between bites come on it's just so stupid come on they just want to control people in some weird way like so they were trying to tell kids they can't go to halloween they can't go trick-or-treating yeah and then everybody freaked out and like okay we changed our mind like what kind of policies do you have like what what is what's what's the what is the motivation behind these policies and how can you just change your mind because people get upset if it's so important that you really think children should stay inside on halloween and then everybody freaks out so you go okay we change our mind like what are you basing it on and who are you that's right and why do you get to choose this is not what the the constitution was supposed to be enabling no it is not and my other concerning thing especially when it comes to young people and kids and that's we we don't we don't have these kids in school and the problem is is that when you are you know young we are when you're 18 years 18 years old one year means a lot yes and i'm not talking about academics i am talking about social growth and social development yes we are stunting the social growth and social development of these kids unquestionably because when you are around groups of people that's how you grow that's how your personality is formed and we're robbing them of that for roughly a year and i just feel like there's a there's a way to do it to make sure that the kids are safe which is our number one priority if there are instructors instructors that are at risk how do we keep them away and then allow the teachers a lot of them that i speak with who actually really want to get back to work and teach these kids because that's their passion and they're willing to take that risk because that's what they signed up for and that's what they told me and i and i feel like there is a way where we could accomplish all of the above but we don't want to have a conversation about it after the election wesley oh god let's just wait until after the election i don't know why you're rushing now you're going to put people at risk people's lives someone died these kids yeah we're hurting we're hurting the kids unquestionably and you know the other thing that people don't want to take into consideration or even don't want to discuss is how many people are dying during this covid crisis because of depression because of suicide because they lost their business they lost their income they lost their livelihood they lost their home devastating it's happening and it's a factor and it's not a factor that's being talked about you're not seeing charts that track how this suicides have gone up so high i have a friend who talked to a sheriff in los angeles who said we used to see one suicide every week or so now we see five a day that's exactly right and like this is crazy and it's crazy because we have the technology to fix this and actually handle it i mean for example case in point i came to your studio awesome studio by the way it's gonna see it in person walk in what do you do you text me hey there's a nurse you're gonna get covet tests it takes 15 minutes great we all find out we're negative and we can get on with that without with our day yes see how easy that is yeah it well it's not readily available readily available everywhere yet yet but it can be yeah that's the argument that it can be but what i want to do with the comedy club is set up like 10 of those and and just have everybody say look the show's at eight get there at seven you get tested once you're clean 15 minutes in you can go have a drink and the show started eight and this way we could just sit down like humans like we used to do yes just seven eight months ago and have a good old time we can still do that i think yes it can be done and i think more importantly you have to let people take risks if you let people take risks like dan crenshaw jumping out of airplanes for a [ __ ] video we're letting people and i understand that you're putting other people at risk i do understand that by the way yeah i don't that's not that's not lost on me yes it's not lost on me either but i i do think that we need to take precautions about that that needs to be but if you're a person like say if you're a 24 year old and you live with another 24 year old and you want to go out but you can't go out that's [ __ ] you should be able to do whatever you want to do and just it's up to you and we should really highlight your responsibility to get tested and not expose yourself to other people that are at risk that are high risk or that are vulnerable we could definitely do this by the way yes it can be done but it can't be done with over-regulation and it can't be done with the kind of attitude they have in california where they think they could just shut everything down that's right and this is this is why i left i just i don't see this getting better any time soon i just i saw it as being a thing where they weren't addressing the negative aspects of locking things down for right now we're at six seven months what is it going to be is it a year is it a year and a half like what are the how are you going to deal with the negative aspects of the negative social the economic the just the way people feel about the city how are you going to deal about with all that is there a strategy in place seems to be none right it seems to be none they're looking at everything with rose code glasses and they keep getting paid and that's part of the problem is all these politicians keep getting paid and i know gavin newsom was at one point in time saying he was going to take a pay cut but he never did as far as i'm concerned as far as i'm uh as far as i know i don't think he did i think he's like oh well i love that what i said is you brought the constitution yeah and again i've used the word liberty multiple times now because it's absolutely real to me yeah i mean they set this they set this framework up to empower the citizens to have their own religion to live where they want to live if you don't like your state you can move as you did and vote with your feet you if you don't like the tax rate in one state you can move somewhere else i mean we've allowed we built this country to allow people to make their own decisions yes and the second we start to erode that and take that away from people is when we're getting in trouble and that completely flies in the face of what the construct of this country was supposed to be originally and that's where people like me for example you asked why i'm running for congress this is why because we have to get back to empowering citizens to make their own decisions yes spent eight years in the army four years at west point that's 12 years told in the military love the military thank god i did it best decision i've ever made but but we don't need more federal government and more regulation we need as little regulation as possible i understand the human condition every now and again can have some nefarious intent i understand that but really it's about empowering the individual to make their own choices and make their own decisions federal government is not supposed to tell people what to do and how to live people are fleeing their countries from all over the world to come right here to this country and i just sat with a woman from taiwan today they are fleeing their countries to come here to live free and then here we are talking about regulation to take that very thing that makes us different away from our citizens my concern is that we're not going to get it back my concern is i understand that they have motivation to reduce these freedoms to contain kovid but freedoms lost are rarely regained yes and the my concern is that they're going to find other excuses to keep people locked down other excuses to try to exercise these powers that they've learned how to use this is what's weird about this it's like you've led a genie out of the bottle you've let people like that mayor garcetti guy in la tell people what they can and can't do they're shutting off electricity and when water if you have a party at your house yeah like this kind of [ __ ] is like that's supposed to be those are essentials like when did when are you allowed to do that like since when can you do that and everybody's like oh because of covid well how do you get that back does it have to be what if covet is a returning thing what if covid is like the common cold and people are just going to get it from now on i like the flu okay you like the flu all right so what what are you did are we giving up enormous amounts of power to the government now so are we losing all of our liberties because because of this disease that we're all dealing with and we're gonna put our faith in the hands of people who are elected yeah that we never intended them to have these powers in the first place and now we're seeing these powers are used very differently in different parts of the country yeah so this is the good thing about information and we walk around every day with a super computer in our hands we're actually one of the first generations to ever ever be able to do that for the bulk of our lives and i think that people wake up and they realize that so no i don't want to be over regulated so i'm going to go somewhere where i am not over regulated so i'm going to move exhibit a right i think that people are awakened by stuff like this particularly when we oh when government overplays their hand in a particular population where they're like no we're not going to take it and then what happens people either a move or they put somebody else and they elect somebody else and they fire the person who's in charge we're seeing a lot of what's happening in portland and in seattle and it's kind of interesting i'm very curious to see how those elections go in the future because those local leaders failed their people they failed their citizens i think that area is so liberal that they're not going to learn their lesson we'll see we will see there's a lot of trump supporters in portland too that are they're doing these big parades with american flags and trump flags and driving their trucks and honking their horns i wonder if that's going to have an impact i think it will because the number one the number one role the government another federal government is to keep her citizens safe that's the number one goal yeah and when in portland you have a police chief that says to small business owners who are losing their businesses because they're getting a rioted and looted and and the police chief says this sorry you're on your own well you have now failed now why are they saying you're on your own because the mayor won't allow them to do anything well well that's because they are now defunding they're defunding the police and then they're setting up areas where they won't allow law enforcement to even enter like seattle like china yes and then now the citizens are actually not as safe well that one was bonkers where the mayor was on television saying maybe it's the summer of love look what you found out [ __ ] are you talking about you found out the whole idea behind it is so my take on it was you you're doing something that has never been done before you're taking over blocks you're putting up boundaries and you're deciding it's yours but you set a precedent now because you didn't earn any of that space you didn't earn that land you didn't earn those buildings you took it by force right you set a precedent and what's to stop someone from taking that from you that's right with the same strategy saying no i think i'm right so i'm going to come in with bigger guns and more people and we're gonna shut out all these businesses and we're gonna put up bigger barriers and we're gonna have more stringent policing they were beating people up for filming unbelievable it's just it's so dumb like you embodied the worst aspect of a dictatorship in a six block thing and you did it quick you became the worst country in america i mean if that's a independent country and that it's in the continental united states you became the worst version of what america is that's right that's right i can't agree with you and people see this by the way people see it i think they do people see it i think they do i think there's a lot of people that are seeing it there are a lot of people that are think seeing that these idealistic portrayals of what government can be you know like this idealistic we need to defund the police and put all the money into social programs like yes with no long-term solution you see oh jesus look what happens oh this is terrible that's right we don't we don't want that no it's a wake-up call for a lot of people it is a wake-up call yeah um and then the mayor of portland i mean he's he's hilarious like he goes outside they're like [ __ ] you you resign he's like about that he is the he got kissed a progressive guy he got cancelled yeah the most part think about that right not enough he got not good enough [ __ ] i kicked him like the price is wrong he tried to light his apartment building on fire it's it's just amazing that the literally the most progressive mayor in america and they're like not enough not enough resign sir not good enough so where does it stop where does it end i don't know they want 100 defund the police they want to give these people a year to that was their demands give them a year to find uh alternative meaningful employment and then no more police yeah okay go on down we need you come on down here to texas yeah congratulations folks you just [ __ ] up your entire city you're welcome what are going to do with that what do you how are you planning on working that out with no police what happens if your car gets stolen you're going to call a social worker what do you do if someone breaks into your house what are you going to call yeah what are you going to do about murder right what are you going to do about rape these things happen by the way yeah they just don't miraculously go away right yeah well it's just these idealistic views of what the future should be and the way you think you're going to implement them today currently and we just need to get well there's bad cops we gotta get rid of all the cops well there's bad protesters too should we get rid of all protests of course not of course yeah when you see people smash buildings and and smash windows no one's saying you can't protest anymore no one's saying there's no more well obviously that's a part of protesting because you got bad people and when you have a group that anyone can join in on like anyone can join most of these groups you you're gonna get a bunch of [ __ ] that's right unquestionable yeah that's that's life yeah and you need law and order yes you do to fix that yeah you need consequences for unlawful acts and the best way to do that is with the police and they choose to do it too by the way these people choose to get up in the morning and they choose to protect people they do and i always say this they don't always get it right we know this we i recognize that yeah but this is not the answer either well they're human you know and when you get a bunch of humans together look if you get a hundred people in a room one of them is going to be a [ __ ] idiot that's right there's no way around it if you get a bunch of cops one of them is going to be incompetent if you're lucky one of them if you're lucky and here's the other deal like how many of those poor folks are running around with ptsd untreated a large percentage of them they're seeing what they've seen murders and violence and car accidents and you know you name it child abuse you name it you name it all the horrors of humanity they see it on a daily basis it's a part of their life human trafficking that's another thing that we don't talk about yes that is another thing that just goes in and out of the news we were talking about on the podcast the 39 or 35 kids that were rescued in georgia and it was a blip in the news like how and but meanwhile i saw a thousand articles on how mean ellen is yes ellen's mean she's so mean meanwhile there's like people are out there risking their life to stop human trafficking they're rescuing children yes from human trafficking yes what is this u.s marshal wow 72 million missing children excuse me 72 let's say a million 72 missing children across indiana iowa uh ohio and georgia in the past several weeks in the past several weeks so what is what is this is where these so when you read an article like that u.s marshals rescued 72 missing children you this is where like all the q and on people get crazy because they think that donald trump is secretly working behind the scenes to stop child trafficking and that the there's like some secret cabal in the government that wants to enable this [ __ ] and then facebook bans queueing on and they everyone's going crazy now yeah like this this child trafficking thing is real is real it has always existed did you know that houston is actually one of the hubs for child trafficking in the us really yes it is now how do they how do they find out about child trafficking like what what do they how do they infiltrate so usually it's local law enforcement that recognizes uh some abnormalities in the behavior of some of the children um usually it's certain areas certain shops certain businesses that are kind of harboring these people a lot of them just get stopped because i mean it's kind of really odd if you're on a van or an 18-wheeler and then there's like 20 kids in it it's weird and we as a culture have got to work with local law enforcement to start to curb this thing because that's where the rubber meets the road i don't know if you saw the story i don't know if you could pull it up sir but if you saw the story about the flight attendant yeah that helped out yes the girl that recognized the abnormality of a girl on a flight by herself and saved her life yes and they had the authorities on the ground when the plane landed yeah waiting yeah we got we have got to see more of that and so this is this is how we talk about the army you got to police your own troops we got to police our own if we are just uh uh acutely of acutely aware of the abnormalities and the behavior of young children who clearly are under duress we cannot turn the bloc a blind eye to it why is this not a bigger story in mainstream news this is one of the things that concerns me i don't understand why you're not seeing this on cnn this isn't every day why aren't we seeing this every day on cnn right that story right there should be leading everything prime time news everything that should be leading 72 missing children rescued yes so how do how are they they can't it can't be just that they're randomly discovering what these kids in a truck or they see a kid on a plane acting weird and that's how they catch everybody like how are they infiltrating like how because there's there's also a bunch of guys that are former spec ops guys that are that are working to fight child trafficking how are they doing this so solution to this in my opinion yeah i'll go i'll get i'll get you guys in a second solution is in my opinion is actually and i would be in huge favor of this of literally starting a separate task force to address this and known hot spots the other way we're finding out is to answer your question the other way that we're finding out as to how they're infiltrating is really if you go to hubs of the world like houston you go to coastal cities where people are actually bringing people into the country that's exactly where you're going to find a lot of it so if you just kind of hang out around these areas then then you'll see a lot more of it you'll discover a lot more of it and so houston has become kind of one of those hubs because of its geographic locations it's actually near a port city and obviously people are coming through port cities at a higher rate cargo's coming through at a higher rate and so we're actually able to track that at a better rate if you just kind of hang around the hoop you'll find it um so how are these people communicating oh my goodness this is it seems like if the government can use programs like edward snowden revealed yeah like how are they how are they organizing these things and where are they getting these kids from the gate these kids are actually all over the world a lot of them are coming from impoverished communities a lot of them are coming from impoverished countries and they're just shipping shipping them in a lot of them come from asian countries actually and a lot of them come right here in the us and this is something that that dawned on me is particularly with having two girls now and that is it's also my job to continue to protect them and all of these young people and it's actually young boys as well it's not just it's not just young ladies it's actually coming upon them to keep them safe if we can't keep them safe then what are we doing here literally like that's our role now you know as fathers and as responsible human beings is keeping our young people safe and the biggest thing is this there clearly is an appetite and there clearly is a culture for it what i want to do is how do we place extreme punishment on those who behave in this yeah and partake in this behavior i'll tell you what it it could be happening right next door to you to somebody that seems to be a normal human being but we have got to stop them we have to stop the predator from feasting on our children yeah and it's got to be demonized let's let's demonize that yeah 100 yeah how how are these people communicating though are you doing it through the dark web are they doing it through forums are they doing it through are they using code like how are they doing this i've heard all the above yeah i've also heard communicating through just open email inboxes right they don't hit send but they have the password for multiple emails and they'll just go in get the message and then never open or close it so it's impossible basically to track it's just like a draft oh i see and so other people have the login and login and they and they check it out through the draft oh that makes sense and it's funny because this subject because of uh things like pizzagate the subject became so taboo that no one wants to talk about it because it sounds preposterous because pizzagate was so preposterous a guy shows up and with a gun looking for kids that are tied up in the basement everybody's like oh my god there's nobody here everyone's wacky these child sex trafficking fanatics that are interested in this and that are trying to stop this they're all crazy people right but that's not really the case right the the problem with something like pizzagate is it it confuses everybody yeah and you start thinking that all this stuff is nonsense but then these stories they they make it to these websites and you see that this is a real thing these are real news stories but then they don't get talked about in mainstream right and and then we lose track of who the real enemy is yeah that's a real enemy not ellen that's dangerous yeah right not eleanor being mean to our assistant just the [ __ ] because what we care about is so bizarre it's it's such a symptom of how how sick we are yes as a culture and that our priorities are so skewed and that this is sort of accentuated by our addiction to social media yeah and that people are concentrating so much on things that are trivial and nonsensical what's up buddy i i found an article on reuters that said that like the mainstream media is been reporting on this so like that i'm looking through pages to find out details on different reporting of this i'm all i'm finding this on is like local news sites so how like what does that mean though that it's not being reported well you don't see it on cnn you're not seeing it as like mainstream television news where it's a big subject that gets discussed that we have a giant problem like this in this country that's what i'm saying i'm digging through here and then like the human trafficking angle according to what like the us marshal has done here it's one in four of these kids so if there's 25 kids picked up at six or seven of them were human trafficking the other 25 20 or so or like kids that ran away or kids that were being abused and they found them because they were missing so some of them missing for two weeks i'm up to two years wow not every kid is in a human trafficking that's those 72. that's that that's 72 the ones the 35 though in georgia i think that's the same same thing yeah same kind of thing so they're collecting and then they're like reporting the numbers like they're getting they're collecting these 35 kids over a period of time and then they're reporting we found 35 because like it's a month later they found 35 kids one from uh september which should have been reported five weeks ago says that they recovered 25 missing and endangered children over the last month one and four was part of what they believe in alleged human trafficking situations obviously one is too many obviously obviously obviously but so it seems like there's all they're they're finding missing kids and a percentage of them happen to be a part of human trafficking and now here's the question how many of the kids that are being human trafficked actually get discovered we're finding this five here six here these parts how many of them actually are there do we know we don't right we don't we don't just the fact that it's a real thing is spooky as [ __ ] it is stained it's dangerous yeah it's terrifying it's terrifying for fathers and mothers it is you know it's like the fact that or brothers and sisters the fact that it could be someone close to you yes um what other subjects and what other concerns do you have about the current state of this country maybe things that we we haven't discussed before so again we always we're sitting here talking about the division in the country which is something that i think it's it's a very real issue that we've been talking about but i also just just kind of want to say what's the solution to the division in the country like we if we always talk about problems but then what are we going to do about it and the one thing i got to ask a few weeks ago like wesley what are you going to do when you get into congress what can you do differently that nobody else has done to try to start to bridge this gap and bridge this divide 2018 we have the fewest number of veterans in congress in the senate since since roughly world war ii and i think that's actually a part of the issue and a part of the problem so when i get to washington is actually what i believe will be my personal mandate is to go find democrats that are veterans and let's have a conversation and it actually won't be about policy or politics it would actually be more about where'd you serve what did you do who do you know what circles did you run and maybe we have a common bond there because people that are willing to give their lives for this country just view the world a little bit differently so i want to be a part of that contingent that actually tries to bring military people to the table and to be a part of that you look at me you look at dan crenshaw you look at august fluger we're all military guys we all we all get each other on that on that point now we're all republicans but but democrats do as well because we've we've taken an oath to defend this country against all enemies both foreign and domestic i think that's the beginning to start to bridge the divide and it lies with soldiers and again you look at this time period this is the time for soldiers that are you know operation iraqi freedom oef enduring freedom you know folks that actually have gone into private sector gone and gotten you know a further education but still have that bug to continue to serve still have that itch and i think they need our country needs more of us than anything else right now i think that's where it starts i wesley hunt i'm going to be one of 435 congressmen and women that are currently serving this country today i'm one person one person can't change the entire system but two three four five six ten twenty can but you can't get to two unless you have one can't get to three unless you have two can't get to four yeah and so even if i'm two or three or four i am i represent the continuance of the coalition building it's gonna take some time well when it comes to foreign policy when it comes to decisions of military actions when it comes to war itself there's i think of it's very important to have people who've actually served that's right that are making those decisions and it's disturbing as hell when people making those decisions that have never served don't understand it never been in the military and they're making decisions that are going to put our veterans at risk they're going to send them overseas to do these actions and in a way that they do not personally understand because they don't have any actual experience the people like you the people like dan crenshaw tulsi gabbard people that have served these are the people that in my opinion should be the ones that we listen to so it's personal because i lost 14 of my west point classmates in a global war on terror and when i think about these brave men way better men than me paid the ultimate sacrifice uh gave the eulogy this bracelet says david frazier on it wear it every day as a reminder as to why we are all here and why we have to continue to serve and we have to make sure that when we ask somebody to go die for their country we got to make sure that that that we know exactly what we're doing and how we're doing it regardless of what the cause is dying for your country is the most noble death anyone could ever have in my opinion i don't i don't care what the war was i don't care what the reason was those brave men died a noble death in moving forward if we're going to ask somebody to pay that sacrifice we as lawmakers and we as leaders better make sure it's for a reason that is the most high and most noble the one thing that i do see about president trump in this doctrine is the idea of getting us out of these decade-long wars i tend to agree with that actually that region of the world is actually diametrically opposed to the way that we view the world here in this country it is and there are ways through technology to continue to be an effective fighting force the most effective fighting force in the world without having brigades worth of soldiers in the middle east in perpetuity so i like that i like using special ops i like using small teams i like using our brains and our technology i like all that i think president trump is spot on on that and i do think that he's actually valuing the life of every individual soldier by making this decision and then when you do that you build credibility because when you do send people in harm's way we get it we get it this guy is sending us here for this cause it's a worthy cause getting up let's go and that's the kind of that's the kind of confidence that you want to have in your leaders not just the president but across the board when you've been there you know what it feels like when you've lost classmates you know what it feels like and as a congressman when we choose to send someone to war and i look at that brave young man or that brave young woman and i say look this might be it for you they look at me and they say yes sir but if you're sending me i trust you we've got to get that back the only way you're going to get that back is people like you thank you sir i really believe that i don't think anybody who's never served is going to be able to make those decisions and have the respect of the people that are that are going to be sent over there yep what are the things we need to cover here i was going to talk a little bit even about social media a little bit okay and that's a good subject what makes this what makes this a very interesting topic for me is that while we are divided i don't think it's as bad as everyone thinks it is it's not as bad if you get people in a room together it's not at all actually right just not in talk it's not bad at all 20 years ago in the event what happened something would happen something bad would happen and you turned on the evening news and you might see it twice that's it you might see it on the news you might see a newspaper that's it something bad happens today your phone blows up it's on twitter it's on ig it's on facebook and then it's only just like cnn app your your fox news app then it's on fox news cable then it's on local tv so we have now seen the same incident like eight times on eight different platforms which gives the perception that it's worse than it really is i got to thinking about this a lot because my father my father is my hero okay and he's a he is a very very wise man that's thinking about this because he goes son do you really think it's harder to be a black man today than it was when i was growing up that was rhetorical the answer is abso absolutely not but it got me thinking about it because it gives the perception that it is given all that we're seeing but quite frankly we've always gotten better my brother and i always joke about america he's like what's what's the best time to be an american tomorrow tomorrow am i am i better off being in america right now than i was when i graduated high school in 2000 absolutely so what is distorting our view so much that that gives us the perception that we're way worse off well over the course of the past 15 years we have developed this social media system that quite frankly sends out just negative information and people then hide behind their words they hide behind their post because they don't actually confront people one-on-one but is it really worse joe really worse in what way like look so like so so let's just let's just let's just go back to the racial issues in this country okay let's go back to that when i was in high school you know i thought about some of the language that was used some of the language that was said some of the ways that i was treated when i compare that to the way i am treated right now it's very different actually it's way better again i'm actually running for congress in a predominantly white district overwhelmingly white district would that have been the case 30 years ago would they have nominated me would they have elected me i'm not quite sure but now they have overwhelmingly and they don't even care that i'm black i think what people would push back on is for sure things are getting better yes but what they would say is there's massive amounts of room for improvement and many many many things that need to be done to correct the way things are wrong in this country right now of course that's why people have a hard time when people look at the bright side of things okay they look at the bright side of things they go yeah yeah yeah okay but you can't just ignore all these problems that exist right now and that's what i refuse to do which is why i tend to bring up the past and progress yeah so when people ignore it is when they don't talk about their great great grandfather who was once a slave so you see i i acknowledge that because i want to actually build on it what i don't like are people who just refuse to even mention that what i don't like are people who don't even want to acknowledge our past slavery i i actually want to talk about it because when you talk about it we can fix it what do you think could be done about injustices that are happening currently like one of the things that i've discussed in this podcast many times is there are parts of this country whether it's baltimore or detroit or south side of chicago that are almost perpetually engulfed in crime yes and they have been forever and it doesn't seem to be any effort whatsoever to reverse that how can you how can you fix those i understand you're becoming congress congressman in a specific district but when you look at the country as an overall and you look at these particular bad spots what strategies can be used that aren't being used to fix this the strategy of empathy and understanding not yelling at each other not demonizing each other not saying that your culture is so messed up and it's it's your fault acknowledging that particularly in the black community the welfare state was created and that's actually what has caused a lot of the consternation in our culture today that's not black people's fault actually it's actually the system's fault right black people also have to take some responsibility for some of the cultural issues that we have as well it's not all white people's fault actually we have to accept some of this too if both sides can accept and take on the culpability some of it on the problems that we see today and we can admit it and we can talk about it then that's how we can begin to heal but obviously some physical actions need to be need to take place i can't i can't actually agree more with you on that and physical actions need to actually take place for everybody the issue is that when somebody says one side says well they should do this but they should do this well you should do that we're pointing fingers in nothing and nothing gets done so the police are brutalizing us and a black person has a two and a half more higher chance of dying at the hands of police than a white person that's actually a fact it's actually a fact so look at the police officers but then police officers and other groups can't say well that's because well there's a higher incidences of crime amongst almost brown and black people what's that what did that accomplish nothing right because nobody wants to assume responsibility that both are issues right both are issues both are problems this is where someone like me is actually uniquely positioned that i look i have i have been discriminated against i have been profiled i get it i have been treated poorly by white people i've been treated poorly by black people and vice versa i i understand all this so what what are we going to do to actually solve the problem and this is where it takes real tough leadership because what happens is you start getting in a circular firing squad and everybody's firing on you from all sides and it gets it gets tough for someone like me every now and again who's kind of stuck and caught in the middle but i always joke around and i say well i've also i've also been in combat and i've been shot at before i can deal with it but somebody has got to take this on it's thought instead of pointing the fingers at each other who who's going to bring both sides to the table and again can wesley hunt do it by myself no but what i hope in my candidacy and in conversations like this thank you so much is that what i hope but i hope is that people can hear the message and then say ah okay i get that tone i accept this responsibility so now what can we do about it that's where we start and right now we are way over here i recognize that but we have to work incrementally to get us back together i am confident that this country can do it because just like i've said before we've been way worse been at war with each other and we were able to overcome that we can overcome this too it's just going to take some work joe what would you do like if you i know i understand you're running for congress you're not running to be uh king of the country right but if you if you had a magic wand and you you could take someone could say wesley hunt what would you do about let's just say south side of chicago which is just one of the most murderous places in this country right now yes terrible yes what would you do i give you the power like wesley you fixed this how would you fix that so one of the issues in my opinion in chicago is the relationship with law enforcement and the citizens of that community we need to be in the business of building relationships with those that protect them and keep them safe as long as as long as we can again admit that there is a problem on both sides what can i wesleyan specifically do i you've heard all you've heard so many different ideas on how to combat this what i say is this we start off with conversations you have to start off with the community leaders who are again who are willing to accept culpability for some of the problems and culturally speaking and then you start with the law enforcement officers that are willing to admit that we actually want to be a part of the solution and not be a part of the problem and it takes one person to do that on either side to systematically fix the community one person at a time you can't take just one big bite the apple on this thing it's it's going to take some time it's gonna have to be incremental quite frankly it's gonna have to be generational as well because there's so much distrust there's so much distrust on both sides that we can't even have a conversation about it so so we have to start small and then and then go big from there and it starts right at the community level do you think also an announced some an announcing intention to specifically work on this yes and having this be a big conversation that takes place publicly that law enforcement does want to communicate with community leaders and that there's a direct effort to try to improve these places to let people know we care we know it's a problem even though it's been ignored for so long it will be ignored no longer that's it that's it that's that's where you start that's where you start and it's i agree with you that is a it's a long process yes sir the frustrating thing is that it just hasn't really hasn't been addressed that much sadly and i always said if you want to make america great you really want less losers that's right so you want more people with an opportunity to get past the situation they're currently in so many people are trapped they're trapped in these crime-ridden gang-ridden drug ridden neighborhoods where it's normal for people to be in and out of jail yeah and this is what they grow accustomed to because they grow up with it right and that's that that's no way to grow up yeah um social media let's get back to that there one of the things that drives me crazy about social media is this flippant nature uh this this way that people think it's fine to just censor people and censor people that disagree with you uh one of the things is unity 2020 was something that was uh created by brett weinstein and many other people brett who is very liberal very progressive uh he was the guy that was the professor at evergreen state was run out by these crazy kids that wanted to take over and turn it into a utopia um for leftists uh that's that's the very very paraphrased version of the story but he created this thing called unity 2020 and he wanted to have conversations between the left and the right and have these people talk and try to come up with someone who's a better solution to run this country than what we're currently being offered twitter banned the account yeah i mean it was the most reasonable i don't know if they got it back let's see if they got unity 2020 back but the most reasonable and their their take on it was say no to biden say no to trump and let's come up with a better solution that this can be done and twitter's like no that's ridiculous it's completely ridiculous but the question is the first amendment what is this here suspended articles of unity is that what it is articles of unity is that the same thing as unity 2020 same thing yeah the official account articles of unity yeah banned so they banned it and why why because they don't agree with the sentiment they think that maybe perhaps we should all fall in line and vote for joe biden because this is what they want yes and if you are a progressive and you're a liberal you just have to accept the differences that you have with biden and kamal harris on and their their perspectives and you need to just fall in line and there's no other third party and the idea that you're you're [ __ ] carrying water for the two-party system in 2020 is bonkers and that you freedom of speech is supposed to be the freedom to discuss ideas this is not it's not an enormous percentage of the population that's going along with this guy he's offering an educated perspective our constitution it's our consequence it is our constitution it's also it's so important to listen to things that you disagree with to understand why you disagree with them and to understand if maybe there's some knowledge in there that you can acquire maybe maybe there's some part of their perspective that you do agree with maybe there's maybe you see the error in their ways and you can discuss it with them you can say well this is where you guys got it wrong right like and that happens on this [ __ ] show also you can improve yes i mean with discussing things it's it's it's [ __ ] critical but with whether it's facebook whether it's twitter facebook banning q and on look i'm not a q anon fan but how could you ban that but here's the problem if you ban them why are you letting the flat earthers still have a [ __ ] page why are you letting the jfk people who who the people that think the assassination was caused by aliens where do you draw the line on what's true and what's not and the problem is you just started down a slippery slope and look i don't even know what q and on me i know a lot of people believe in it but i don't even know what they stand for i just know there's a lot of wacky folks involved i know them personally and they're wacky so i'm like ah but the fact that facebook wants to just ban it it's ridiculous i just don't i don't think they should have that kind of editorial power the power to decide what gets discussed and what not what doesn't get discussed do you think that maybe perhaps this is uh my friend kyle kalinski had the suggestion that the second or the first amendment rather should be amended to include social media and that social media should be treated as a utility a utility that everybody should be able to enjoy interesting that look you can't do things like dox people or or call for people's death or you know incite violence obviously yes but or threaten people but express opinions come on you can't express opinions i mean you can get banned on twitter for some of the most preposterous things yeah you know you for a while was like learn to code you say learn to code you would get banned yeah like what because they were saying this was in response to people like coal miners what are they going to do when they get out there someone said learn to code and so then whenever anybody would get fired for any other reason that's it someone would say learn to code like you're banned for life like come on it's nuts come on but it is this thing where you're allowing people to censor people's voices and i don't i think you should let all the nuts talk let them all talk it's called freedom of speech as long as you're not threatening somebody yes yes and the question is like people say well the they're harmful and their opinions sway people in a certain way what sway who sway you is it swaying you are they making you think the earth is flat are they making youth no no you it's at all swaying morons so what do we do we're going to regulate to stop morons from believing stupid [ __ ] is that what we're doing it's impossible it's impossible and it's also un-american to stop expression even expression that you don't agree with is unamerican it's it's the wrong way to approach it yes it is but there's so many people that believe in deep platforming and that that's the way to handle these things i think they're wrong i think the more conversation the more discussion no matter what the better because it teaches you about the world the problem is you have that switch and you can just pop them just pop that switch and now they're off twitter forever [ __ ] would you say unity what [ __ ] you click that's it done next and it's not again it's not even people harassing people it's not people threatening people it's just people expressing opinions that you don't enjoy what do you think should be done about this and what ha why haven't they done something well i mean i know the president's discussed this yes but what can be done about this so this topic is near and dear to my heart because you could imagine somebody like me going to ithaca new york at cornell okay i am a texan i come from an energy capital of the world i am a veteran and in ithaca you would kind of solve the world's problems in coffee shops and i'd walk in wearing something like this and boots and a hat i'm a conservative guy and i'm black i don't know anything about ithaca other than john jones is from ithaca is a really liberal city very liberal college yes it is it's cornell and ithaca college it's a college town and great place by the way love it a lovely place love my time there actually and i would talk to people obviously that were that were very liberal and we would meet up on the weekends all the time and we would just talk and you could probably imagine that we didn't see the world the same way but but we always got to talk and meet up the next week and the next week and they were my classmates and they were my friends and they we got to learn how to respect each other one of my classmates actually who is a banker up in up in new york who is a was a bernie bro very liberal guy he sent me some money for the campaign and then sent me a note and he said you know wesley if i was down there i don't think i'd even vote for you i said thanks man and then he goes but but i hope you win because i know you're a good guy and i know that you believe in this country why wouldn't he vote for you that well because how conflicted probably how come he's helping you but he doesn't want you to win but he wants you to win some money but here's somebody to win so i'm so confused i don't know how to feel about that but it's complicated right it's complicated he may not vote but does want me to win and so that's where we're we're actually missing that element of we might disagree politically but i respect you as a person enough to hear you out this is why we have to stop canceling people this is why we have to stop quelling just opinions because it's actually a form of disrespect to the very fiber of someone's human being we've got to get to the point where we start respecting each other again and this cat and this has to stop and you know president trump tweets a lot as we as we see and it's dawned on me that i i he does a lot because that's that's his way to get his point across to circumvent everything else now do i agree with all of it no uh do i disagree sometimes sure do i agree with some of it i absolutely do but the whole point is is this that's an attempt to go direct to the people with his voice and his opinion whether you like it or disagree with it or not that's actually beside the point this is where we start to break that down because everybody should have the leeway to do just that so we have to lead by example and when i see stuff like this it's actually infuriating to me because if if it's if it's a very liberal opinion knock yourself out in fact i want to hear it i want to hear more about it yeah but if it's a conservative opinion or if it's different from my opinion then then we ban it and it gets canceled do you only fact check the more conservative points and opinions and not fact-check the others because they disagree with you right or agree with you this is a very dangerous place to be in this is a valuable conversation to have because this is where legislators need to have a conversation about this what is freedom of speech right what is freedom of assembly what is it like like really what is it and i think our founding fathers intended it intended it for it to be exactly what you're talking about right now they never anticipated something like social media no and i think that social media represents the current town center where people can get together and and talk about ideas they just never anticipated one person be able to reach thousands and thousands of people with one individual opinion with one phrase or with one tweet or with millions of people but to stop that from happening because you disagree with it is just it's unconstitutional particularly if it's just political it's unconstitutional it's it's also it's abusive yes you didn't no one anticipated that social media was ever going to be what it is that's true that that it would be this town center of discussion it was you know in the beginning it was just people putting up pictures of their dog or something you know it was right normal stuff but what it is now is it's the battleground for global communication it is and the fact that it's being run almost entirely by left-wing people is very problematic especially with their penchant for censorship right right well i think dan crenshaw actually does a really good job with his social media and again it's about going direct to consumers is what he does and even with again with the video and his instagram account that has millions of followers on it that's actually that's actually the way to combat this he has built a heck of a brand that actually allows him to speak to people uh without worrying about whether or not he's going to be censored or not because it's his opinion that he is putting on his brand on his page yeah this is how you kind of start to take that back through social media and that's actually what i intend on doing too here over the course of the next few years the problem is you can be shadow banned you can be silenced your tweets can be deleted and that's the problem yeah and the fact that this has become a viable solution to a lot of people on the left they think it's a wise thing to do yes it's cancelled people yeah it's just not it's not acceptable it's also a lot of these people are mentally ill that are doing this that's like legitimately mental and when i say mentally ill i mean overridden with anxiety and depression and spending hours and hours and hours a day getting in fights online that's an ill person right i mean look if we want to talk about mental health and this is something where people would push back against us but i want you to consider this okay peace of mind like clarity if you are arguing with people on twitter i would say right now you're mentally ill if you're spending hours and hours every day which a lot of these people are just arguing and [ __ ] on people all day long you're probably ill that's not optimal that's not healthy it's not it's not a great way of communicating but these social media networks they facilitate mental illness in a lot of ways and a lot of these people yeah people that don't understand the the the negative consequences of engaging constantly constantly in conflict yeah negativity yes and negativity it's not wise it's just not wise and a lot of them are depressed i've talked to people who you know i've talked to them after they've gotten off of these like twitter binges and they're like dude i gotta stay off twitter man i get depressed i can't sleep but this i mean why don't you delete it like why don't you stop think about that like they can't sleep they get up in the middle of the night to pee and they check their twitter they check to see if people are agreeing or disagreeing with them they check to see who's angry at them and who's who's tweeting them because neurotic oh they go crazy and it's just so unhealthy and then these people are the ones that think it's okay to silence other people to disagree with them wrong answer it's the wrong answer it's a wrong answer but i think it needs to be we need to figure out a way to regulate this like we regulate utilities right i really do i don't think interesting i don't think you could call so i don't think you could say oh it's a private company they can do whatever they want it's a private company that reaches billions of people like it's a pipeline for communication i i understand that they created it but it's being used by so many people and it's responsible for so much discourse the argument should be made i think that this is one of the main forms of communication and to deny people because of their political ideology the access to this i think is devastating and i think it's terrible for our country it's terrible because it promotes division that's right it promotes more of the people on the right that are getting censored they're going to hate the people in the level even more and it creates that friction it creates more friction what can be done about this it's a tough one it's a tough one what can be done about it is again what i always retort and go back to and that's conversations like this so who's actually having conversations like this by the way about this topic not that many broad skills not very many people so what can be done about it is we have to increase the conversations like this with with what i believe can be reasonable people from all walks of life on both sides of the aisle we have to talk about this i think if there were reasonable people that were sitting here no matter where you're from no matter where you're from no matter what race color religion creed uh a political affiliation if you're sitting here listening to this conversation and you've read the constitution and you've been in you've been in this country for the bulk of hell not even for the bulk of your life you've you've lived in america for long enough to understand freedom and liberty you hear this conversation you would say maybe we should push back on that yeah maybe we should so this is what you're doing honestly as a leader by just even having these conversations and we just need more of it and we need to have conversations with leaders in politics and and entertain in the entertainment industry we have to have conversations with foreign countries and other leaders this is how we started with leaders in industry and ceos we have to have these conversations i feel like we're at a time right now where we've just flat out stopped we're just we're just yelling at each other and we spent the better part of an hour in my opinion literally talking about the crux of the problem which is unconstitutional and against the first amendment and our rights let's talk about that what that means and even in my in my opinion maybe i don't know you know maybe i i look i see the glass half full even the most liberal person if they were sitting here as a human being looking at each other would say they have a point i think liberal people that are objective would see the danger in censorship yes and if they didn't i don't know how they'd call themselves liberal how are you going to call yourself progressive when you are anti-communication it's the antithesis of being liberal yes by not wanting to hear other people's opinion because it doesn't agree with yours is actually opposite of the word liberalism yeah it really is but in this day and age it's really it's become so tribal that these people they form these groups and then they live in these thought bubbles and they only want to communicate with people that agree with their ideology yes and they want it to be confirmed they want confirmation bias that's what they want they want to be surrounded by people that think the same way they do and that we're more polarized now than ever it's just it's so disheartening i always push back on people that ask me that start a question off like this wesley how could you wrong let me let me just stop you right there what do they say that about the question lots of things give me one how could you how could you how could you be a black republican oh that's an interesting one how could you yeah just just the wrong question i ask anybody right the question is is why are you or why do you yeah either you're seeking to condemn or you're seeking to understand if you're seeking to understand you're asking a question why because you want to learn something yes if you're asking how do you or how could you you've already made your mind up right you're casting judgment with your questions you've already done it yeah how much grief do you get for being black and being republican at the same time i wouldn't say i wouldn't say i wouldn't say grief i do get a lot of pushback i get a lot of pushback on social media as you could probably imagine until somebody sits down and actually have a conversation with me right and then all and then all of a sudden you're reasonable all of a sudden yeah well i can't imagine anybody listening to this conversation not thinking you're reasonable right but if you look at you look at a tweet or sound bites you look at like brief thing and you try to categorize someone you when the absence of nuance is very dangerous yes it is and eliminating nuance from clearly nuanced discussions that's right human beings are nuanced yes we are yeah i mean there's there's no events or buts about it are complicated super so accept that right and to try to boil someone down to a quote or to a demographic or to any anything simplistic interpretation of possible to do that it's not wise yes sir and when people do it they're being disingenuous and they're being sneaky yeah yeah but that's more often now than not it is that's the problem and we accept it and if it's if it goes along with our belief system or idea our ideology we're like yeah with it [ __ ] him yeah yeah part of my i don't know i i believe in serendipity and i'm just i don't know how i got here at this time at this place and and but but i do think i'm here for a reason because this is a courageous thing to be able to have these conversations and take it out to the public specifically in politics in this climate today but it's kind of my mandate i have to do it because if dan doesn't do it and if i don't do it then then literally nobody's going to do it well i'm very excited about the entrance of all these veterans getting into politics thank you i think it's very important it is and i think it's something that's been missing and lacking people with real world experience on these subjects that we discuss yes yes i agree i'm happy there's guys like you and dan and and and many others that are entering into politics and i think the people that have experienced it the kind of things that you guys have experienced there's an education that cannot be acquired any other way that's right literally trial by fire yeah literally i'm just glad that no one censored podcasts yet i don't think you let that happen brother i'm trying not to but [ __ ] man people get crazy depending upon who gets in the car yeah or comedy depending upon who gets into politics or who gets into power yeah i mean look there are dictatorships that are currently going on in this world the idea that that could never happen here is preposterous human beings can fall into all sorts of traps and they have throughout history we are aware of those traps and we think well that won't happen to us we're always one generation away yes or one tragedy away one tragedy yeah or one decision that we make to give up rights in order to have safety and then boom next thing you know guess what we've lost someone's checking all your emails yep guess what you can't express an opinion or guess what you can't talk [ __ ] like men like to get together and talk [ __ ] that's what we do we like yeah and we say a bunch of [ __ ] that we probably don't even really mean but it's funny to say right especially soldiers of course dude i've been around so many yeah seals have the most [ __ ] up sense of humor oh my god some of these guys that work security for me holy [ __ ] they're hilarious it's dark but funny yes but but if you took some of that [ __ ] and put it in a quote and you're like oh my god lock that person out of the way out of context yes yes that person's terrible yeah this is what they're planning like that's not what he's done no he's talking [ __ ] don't you know what talking [ __ ] is god especially with alcohol involved oh my god you don't and everyone talking [ __ ] knows it's talking [ __ ] and that's why everybody's laughing that's right yeah that's right we all we are all in on the joke yes talking [ __ ] is a very important part of human beings it is it's a very important part of men men and discourse yeah that's right if a man can't talk [ __ ] with me i can't talk to them i can't because you can't talk [ __ ] come on come on man yeah you can't talk a little [ __ ] it's fun like the the half smile while you're saying things we both know what we're doing we're talking [ __ ] yeah i think talking [ __ ] is very important that's okay it gets demonized so much and it becomes a part of this whole narrative of toxic toxic masculinity and listen if it wasn't for toxic masculinity we'd all be speaking german so shut the [ __ ] exactly right yeah that's exactly right because because it was toxic it was toxic masculinity that stormed the beaches of north yeah it's not a barrage of machine gun fire it's just masculinity and by the way here's the dirty secret women love masculine men sorry guys sorry dorks you're not going to fix that you're not going to fix it you're not going to change that that's just how it is we're animals we're human beings are animals we are animals yeah we're though we are complicated yeah and you can't you can't boil us down to like some [ __ ] ridiculous dignified narrative that you'd like us to fall into but there's this there's uh an inclination to do that today roy jones jr talked about on the podcast he's like they're trying to neuter men that's right and that is how it feels like they're trying to socially neuter men to get them to fall into a pattern that they would like because it's easier to control people in that way and also it eliminates the kind of competition that you can't win if you're a nerdy feminine man and you view toxic masculinity you view men who are very masculine as something you can never be you want to try to eliminate that or you want to try to control that and you see a lot of that you see a lot of it from people that have had bad interactions with men there's a way to be tactful and there's a way to be respectful and still maintain your masculinity yes but you also i was going to get to you see a lot of shitty men that want to neuter women they want to assert yeah they want they don't like strong women they don't like power because if they've had bad relationships with women or they've had women that didn't like them or that they feel bad about their relationships with them because the the women dismissed them or weren't interested in them or you know or just it's just you see what that was see when you do that so then you don't have a wesley in a rendon hunt because my sister went to west point first she is a strong woman that actually set quite the example from my brother and i that's why we all three women yes so why would i want to take away her strength and her power and her individuality to actually lead men and women and also be a good example for her brothers yes who are two masculine guys but here's the thing strong people yes appreciate strong people period weak people don't like strong people that's where it comes down to it has the the masculine feminine thing that's a trap yes there's a lot of strong women yes who love masculine men there's a lot of strong men who love powerful women they don't fear it because they're not weak right a few days ago i got to meet nikki haley in person she is remarkable she's a strong leader i don't know who nikki has nikki haley uh she's the former governor of south carolina u.n ambassador under president trump unbelievable you can tell she's strong she is level-headed she is extremely shrewd she is extremely smart she's amazing and i'm sitting at the table with her and it's me and her and my wife and dan and and tara crenshaw and we're sitting there and i'm looking at dan dan's looking at me i'm like i mean she is incredible that has nothing to do with her being a woman or me playing apaches or dan being a seal she is a strong person she's a strong exact woman she is a leader exactly exactly exactly that's that's what we need and that's what we need to get to yes that's what we need to get to we need to we we need to celebrate powerful people that's right people who are strong people who are leaders and want to stand for something yes people exemplify what we what we enjoy seeing in others that's right great character great intelligence integrity right someone is interesting mental strength yes yes all those things yes we should really reinforce that celebrate those things don't celebrate those to celebrate it exactly yeah exactly um what else what other what other subjects you think we need to cover i think you made an awesome point today i really do they've recovered at all i hope these [ __ ] vote for it i really do yeah i hope we get the word out and they see this podcast they go oh okay me too we're working hard at it and again i just want to say always always always i am an american first and i'm proud of it you can't tell me this is not the greatest experiment in history of this world and i'm just blessed to be a part of it you can't tell me that either can't tell you cannot tell me otherwise no no i love it i love it i love it and i love the guys like you are out there thank you brother trying to represent america correctly thank you brother i appreciate you thank you my pleasure uh tell people one more time what district how to get after it sure um it's uh houston texas congressional district 7 my website is uh wesley for texas.com wesley for texas thank you sir thank you brother thank you very much awesome thank you wesley hunt ladies and gentlemen you know what to do get out there vote for it thanks everybody [Music] you

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Keywords: Joe Rogan Experience, JRE, Joe, Rogan, podcast, MMA, comedy, stand, up, funny, Freak, Party

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Length: 149min 6sec (8946 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 15 2020