Jimmy Evans – How to Serve Your Spouse: The Servant Rules – The Four Laws of Love

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last week we talked about the first law of love which is the law of priority in Genesis chapter 2 when God created marriage when he created Eve for Adam he immediately spoke these words for this cause a man will leave his father and mother now we know he didn't say that just Adam and Eve because they didn't have mothers the if you want to find Adam and Eve in heaven let me tell you how to do it they're the only two people in the history of the world that don't have belly buttons didn't that profound aren't you glad you came to church to hear that and so they were created directly by God and so they don't have mothers so we know that God couldn't have been speaking that just to Adam and Eve okay so for this cause a man will leave his father and mother that's the law of priority it has to be first before you get married your mom and dad are first are your most important blood bond but for the sake of marriage you have to do this this is what the word leave means it means let go of reprioritize everything in your life marriage has to be before work children church friends sports in real terms it has to be first in order for it to work that's the first law of love and by the way the electrifying part of the law of love like when a man proposes to a woman is is this statement I choose you except for Jesus Christ I choose you to be the focus of the rest of my life that's just the most powerful thing in the world and as long as you're living true to that it just has an electrifying effect on your relationship well the second law of love is this it says for this cause a man will leave his mother and father and will be joined to his wife or will cleave unto his wife now both of those words joined or cleave they're very weak anemic words in the English language especially the word cleave when you hear a man will cleave into his wife in the English language we think about meat cleaver you don't want to get that picture your head you know that's not the way you want to be thinking about marriage and so the Hebrew word is debauch which means to pursue with all of your energy we are commanded to pursue God with all of our energy and so if I told you to climb the mountain Staubach if I told you to run a race that's about and so God said from the very beginning you're gonna have to work at this relationship marriage is work and it only works when you work at from the very beginning God told us the truth about marriages this is going to require work some people have a romantic misconception that says if I marry my perfect soul mate you know it but we're just gonna wake up every day and look at each other and say hallelujah and it's just gonna happen all over again chemistry never ever causes a great marriage ever ever it's energy not chemistry you fall in love because you work at the relationship you fall out of love because you take each other for granted and you know you just what you did to fall in love you stop doing so this this message is called the servant rules marriage works if you serve each other that's the bottom line if you don't serve each other it doesn't work and by the way you fall in love because you serve each other okay so God created marriage to bless us and fulfill us and it will do that if we serve each other if we don't serve each other it won't do that okay and so here's two reasons for that we can't meet our own needs if I could meet my own needs I wouldn't get married but because there are needs in my life that I can't meet that only Karen can meet that I marry her so you can't meet your own needs that's why you get married secondly we're sworn to fidelity when we get married I'm marrying you and we're marrying each other to meet each other's needs but I'm sworn to fidelity I can't shop in other stores if you're if your shelves are empty I can't shop in another store not legally anyway and so I am sworn to fidelity and I can't meet my own needs so I'm extra mercy where'd each other's mercy and so marriage only works when you serve each other and this is called the servant rules I want to talk to you about how to serve each other marriage only works when you serve each other and there are problems with us serving each other let me talk about some of these problems the first is selfishness and marriage is brutal on selfish people if you're selfish you're just going to have a horrible time being married and I was selfish I was extremely selfish as a young husband and we had a terrible marriage let me say something to you once you listen to me every husband has what his wife needs and every wife has what her husband needs and let me tell you the proof of that you fell in love you fell in love because you were meeting these in each other in other words your store as you say before you got married you cleaned the windows in your store and you put you know things in the store to attract somebody and you put a big open sign on the door and you put the shelves all the shelves were this lined with great merchandise and you were waiting for a customer and here came your perspective spouse and they walked in the door and they said well I mean you got a nice store they should thank you you just you had a wonderful attitude you you were a servant with a great attitude and they said man you got some great stuff in here he said thank you so much and well do you have this you said sure do and you ran over and got it and brought it back and serving him with a great attitude and they said well really like that they said do you have this say yeah I do and you ran over and got it and brought it back and served him with a great attitude and they said you have this you said yes but that's in the when you marry me section right over there that's my dad guarding that section over there but yes I do have that by the way and you shopped in each other stores and you fell in love because you served each other with a great attitude you loved what they were serving you and so you fell in love but as soon as they became a loyal customer you got lazy and took him for granted and the thing that made you fall in love is now the reason that you're falling out of love that's what happened to caring me I worked with care now we're dating 19 I was 16 years old when we started dating we were in biology class together and the Kami says she's gorgeous and I just always thought she was beautiful I was in class with her all all year but I didn't ask her out until May because I had a policy that didn't date girls I was in class with I don't know how I had that policy maybe because of all the girls that I broke up with it hated me and stuff so but Karen was dating some jerk senior she still won't to tell the truth about it she says they weren't dating but so but now so I would come into class and this her boyfriend was a a fleet really good at that I ran track he ran track he was the best track in in the country and so he would ran track yeah handsome guy and she wore his leather jacket but they weren't dating and I would walk into class and she be is kind of you know like this kind of standing next time and I just gave him horrible looks all the time so but I sat behind her in biology class I just like she beautiful not you know I really like her and I liked her spirit so I asked her out that made to a Three Dog Night concert somebody Eli's coming so I fell in love with Karen I mean I fell in love with Karen but but I just knocked myself out and I showed her my best side always showed her my best side until I had secured the relationship and you fast forward in our relationship five years later I was a lazy husband that resented having to serve my wife and and that's why we have so much problem well let me tell you about this is not a biblically accurate story let me just say that right now it's a good one and so to illustrate this point I want to talk to you about a hell marriage and a heaven marriage and I want to show you a picture of Hell on a picture of heaven so we can't meet our own needs okay and we're sworn to fidelity to each other okay so in heaven there is a huge banquet table and God is there and the angels are there and couples were seated across from each other at the banquet table but we have utensils strapped on our hands that are long they're too long to get food and bring it back to our own mouths we can't feed ourselves but we're seated across from our spouse and the heavens banquet table is just incredible it's just this incredible meal and so in heaven the picture is spouses are seated across from each other and they're serving each other and they're saying baby what are you hungry for you want some green beans you want some mashed potatoes you want chicken you want what is it you want I think they're better than chicken anyway but they're just sitting there serving each other so you can't serve yourself and you've got what your spouse needs your store is full of what your spouse needs you fell in love but here's a hell marriage in hell the same banquet table is in hell now God's not there the angels aren't there but this banquet table is loaded with the most delicious incredible food and couples are seated across from each other and they had utensils strapped to their hands and the utensils are too long for them to scoop food and bring back their own mouths and they sit there and starve because they're too selfish to serve each other and that's why they're in Hell so you can choose to have a heaven marriage or a hell marriage it's your choice if you will serve your spouse you will have a heaven mesh because everything that your spouse needs is on in your sort but they're at your mercy there's the mercy of your attitude they're at the mercy of your work ethic they're at the mercy of you loving them enough to serve them and meet their need selfishness is the number one problem okay not number two problem is pride and domination we dominate each other this is a huge issue in marriage and you never have intimacy in a relationship when a person's dominating the relationship and I was dominant of Karen when we first married okay Luke 22 this is at the Last Supper by the way okay and the disciples are talking about which one of them is the greatest Luke 22 now there was a dispute among them as to which of them should be considered the greatest and he said to them the kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them and those who exercised authority over them are called benefactors but not so among you on the contrary who is greatest among you let him be as the younger and he who governs is he who serves for who is greater he who sits at the table or he who serves is it not he who sits at the table yet I'm among you as the one who serves is so they were the disciples we're talking about which one of them was the greatest because they were going to be the most dominant listen in the world ascension creates privilege in the kingdom ascension creates responsibility the kingdom of God is the opposite of the world and so in the world everyone wants to dominate each other and get to the top of the heap but Jesus said I'm the one who serves you you guys are sitting you're talking about which one of you is Grace I'm the one who serves and so if you're a person who uses your position to dominate other people you're not christ-like and if you dominate your spouse you're not christ-like and by the way dominance is a gender-neutral issue there are just as many dominant women as there are dominant men because let me ask you a question I want to say if you're with your parents don't answer this question and now listen I've asked this question all over the world to hundreds of thousands of people life and always get the same response so I'm going to ask you to raise your hand twice and if you raise your hand I want you to keep it up here for this two minutes so I'm gonna ask you two questions and the first is this how many of you were raised in a home where one of your parents was clearly dominant over the other parent if you did raise your hand right you can't keep it up keep it up look around look around keep it up look around and so I'm gonna 60% of hands 50 60 percent of the hands rep okay put it down if you would okay second question for those of you who just raise your hands how many of you would say that that dominance with one of your parents had a negative influence on your parents marriage and upon the family raise your hand again look at the hands go right back up same exact response all over the world you and no one has to wonder about it when I asked that question I never see anybody one hmm yeah and what that means is one of your parents was not serving the other they were training the other to serve them that's what dominance means dominance means this is not an equal relationship you're here to take care of me but I'm not necessarily here to take care of you and so this is our our marriage when Kerri and I first got married I was very dominant and I had to repent of that repentance only changes or dominance only change this when you repent it's a sin to dominate other people we're the only animal on the earth not designed to be dominated and Jesus won't dominate us did you know that Jesus is a shepherd not a sheep herder Jesus gets at the front with his staff and leads a sheep herder gets behind and drives you Jesus does not dominate Jesus leads and we follow we need to be thankful that we serve a foot-washing Jesus as our Lord he's humbled he doesn't dominate it's limit let me say this now dominance destroys intimacy and goodwill in relationship and everyone resents it everyone resents it and so we have to serve our spouse at home or spouse this is the third problem with serving and it's the worldly concept of success a lot of people believe that success means being served and being at the top so here's a statement from Jesus Matthew 23 but he who is greatest among you shall be your servant and whoever exalts himself be humbled and He Who humbles himself will be exalted see Jesus says whoever is greatest among you shall be your servant did you know that that's actually a true statement your favorite restaurant your bank school store service beauty shop the best employees are all servants you shop where you get served the best wherever you go it's where you get served the best the greatest marriage is to servants in love the worst marriage is to selfish people in love the greatest marriage on earth let me say something else I hope you'll listen I hope you'll believe me you will always be happiest when you're serving and you will always be most unhappy when you're waiting to be served in most cases the servant is happier than the person being served in most cases you're just happy we're designed to serve and I'll tell you why in just a minute so this is the fourth problem of serving and that is ignorance of God's nature and so this is John 21 this is after the resurrection this is the resurrected Jesus John 21 then as soon as they had come to the land they saw a fire of coals there and fish laid on it and bread jesus said to them bring some of the fish which you have just caught Simon Peter went up and dragged the net to land full of large fish 153 and although there were so many the net was not broken jesus said to them come and eat breakfast yet none of the disciples dared to ask him who are you knowing it was the Lord Jesus then came and took the bread and gave it to them and likewise the fish so we all know in John 13 that at the Last Supper Jesus washed the disciples feet but did you know the glorified Christ serve them breakfast did you know that the eternal nature of God is a servant Jesus wasn't playing a game when he washed their feet Jesus was revealing the nature of God listen to the promise in Luke 12 let your waist be girded in your lamps burning and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master when he will when he will return from the wedding that when he comes and knocks they may open them immediately blessed are those servants whom the master when he comes will find watching us shortly I say you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat and will come and serve them and he should come in the second watch or in the third watch and find them so blessed are those servants did you know that Jesus promises you if you're watching when he returns he's taking you to heaven and serving you dinner that's the promise here he's the master he's going to return for the wedding and he's saying if I return and I find you watching I'm gonna gird myself and take you there and I'm gonna serve you myself did you know that you are being served 24 hours a day seven days a week by God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit you are who you are because of your servant God God is our Father he hears our prayers he takes care of us he meets our needs that's what Jesus was telling us in Matthew 6 Jesus is our advocate and high priest in heaven 24 hours a day and the Holy Spirit is our teacher our comforter he gives us power the hope God is a servant listen if anyone in the universe could be exempted from serving it would be God but he doesn't he's the best example of it and so the got God made marriage to demonstrate his character that's why he made marriage that's what Genesis 1 says that's what he feeds 5 says and the only marriage that demonstrates the character of Christ as a servant marriage for a husband serves his wife a wife serves her husband is so on so forth so let me give you the servant rules this message is called the servant rules there I'm gonna there are five servant rules I'm going to spell the word serve ser ve and so we're going to talk about what is it what does it take to have a great marriage where you're serving each other here's the first one serve what's your spouse needs in spite of what you need wander understand this is the s and serve serve what your spouse needs in spite of what you need want or understand so if you marry someone normal they're not like you this always sounds interesting when you say it your spouse doesn't like you their needs are not your need their major needs are not your major needs okay now this is general though you may have a few differences with what I'm about to say but mins number one need is honor this is heart this is our mega need respect is our mega need we want to be respected number two is sex now about 20% of women are more sexual than their husbands okay so most men have a greater sex drive than their wife okay it doesn't matter who has the greater libido you just meet each other's needs you serve each other the third need of a man is friendship with his wife we want to be buddies with our wife we don't want to be mothered we we had a mother we don't want another one we nervous crowd anyway and domestic support now that doesn't mean that our wives do all of the housework because men ought to do their fair share of the housework it means that wives are domestically centered women have a gift of turning a house into a home and you know men our beds is just a sheet you know one pillow can any woman even gain that concept of one fell on a bed you know but women are nesters or it's just beautiful what women do with a home honor sex friendship and domestic support here are women's needs for four major knees number one is security women want to feel secure the number one thing that makes a woman feel secure is a selfless sacrificial husband who serves her and his heart is turned toward her that's what makes her feel secure number one neat number two is non-sexual affection now there's not a cell in a man's brain that can understand that one Karin would say can you just told me I said why would I want to do that open and honest communication women open and honest communication is important to a woman is as important to a woman as sexist to a man and the more you talk to your wife more sexual she'll become and I wouldn't talk to Karen for years oh you know she was just a skinny on who'd you see what they say well everybody they say said you know and had it and how do you feel about it yeah and I just thought I'd you know she's nosy and I'm not gonna feed the monster if you want to kill a monster stop feeding it I'm not feeding that thing and but one day one day you know when I was changing as a husband I said to Karen I'll sit down with you and I'll talk as long as you want to talk and I thought eh I'm the greatest husband in history of the world and B they're gonna find me dead tomorrow with my brain sucked out sister will suck my brain out of my head and by the way I loved it and it transformed our relationship he became more sexual if I didn't own that I talked to a lot more by the Fed that monster number four is leadership women want their husbands to lead not dominate they want to be treated as an equal but they want you to lead with the kids they want you to lead with the spirituality of the relationship and a home they want you to lead with the finances with romance they want their husbands to be the loving initiator of the well-being of the home it makes them feel secure and it makes them feel as though you're connected to them and to the family so we're different so we're different so when your spouse comes up and tells you what they need our tendency is to shame to reject - to translate it into our language you know oh you know you say you want to be helped well you must want sex well that's no that's not what she said you know and so she said she wanted to be helped that means she wants to be held that's all it means okay so imagine you going to a restaurant and a waiter comes up and he says hey folks good see that can I take your order he said yeah I'll take the cheeseburger and fries and some iced tea and the waiter goes that doesn't sound good at me what let's try again what I'm sorry I'm the way I am I just can't serve it if it doesn't sound good sorry so try again yo well I'll take pizza well that's kind of heavy and you look like maybe you had a little bit too much pizza here lately we're gonna do a salad okay what welcome to marriage I'm giving you my order and you keep changing it I'm telling you what I want but you're not listening because you think I'm like you you think you're normal and you're trying to conform me into your image no I'm I'm a normal man and you're a normal woman and we're very different and I need in your store something different than you need in my store and the only way that marriage works is when you serve your spouse not according to what you need or want but according to what they need or want it doesn't matter if you want to talk just talk if your spouse needs to talk you just talk then matter what you want this is the sacrificial relationship where you serve each other and by the way when you when you first met and you were falling in love you did 13,000 things you hated and you just had the best attitude in the world oh I don't mind at all liar you did too number two so serve what your spouse needs okay number two enjoy serving your spouse and do it with a good attitude with a joyful attitude when you serve your spouse with a joyful attitude it communicates love value acceptance and priority okay when you I want to serve you let me say something listen I live to serve Karen Evans the number-one reason I'm alive is to serve Jesus the number two reason I'm alive is to serve Karen Evans it's the joy of my life she's not a ball and chain she's not a burden she's not a distraction I don't live for ministry this is not the number one reason that I live I live for Jesus Karen and my family in that order and then ministry and everything else I do is secondary to serving Karen Evans with a joyful attitude she's not burden me when you grudgingly serve your spouse it communicates rejection low value and they're not a priority and you do this through shaming eye rolling bad body language half-hearted effort negative comments comparison spiritualizing all those things like that and so we should never sin to me to need in our spouse but short of sin we should meet their needs with a good attitude and so one of my little pet peeves is when I go into a store or something like in a restaurant and someone brings you more tea or something you go hey thank you very much they say no problem I'm like I'm a paying customer I don't really care if it's a problem or not I don't live not to be a problem to you I'm sorry I just you know here's the response Ally my pleasure my pleasure I love I'll because it's like really you really take pleasure and serving me yeah I love that and the best stores the best hotels the best restaurants train their employees to say my pleasure I was in a stroller store one day and someone served me or cept I said well thank you so much and they said oh it's my joy I like you I just liked you I liked you a lot so when you're serving your spouse and you just have a bad attitude she's terrible okay here's the third one rejects for keeping and do what you do with the spirit of grace and faith there's no score keeping you don't have to deserve it score keeping means you you haven't anything for me lately why did I do anything for you this is first Peter 2:2 this you were called because Christ also suffered for us leaving us an example that you should follow in his steps so when Jesus when we were in our sins Jesus was dying for us right it's called redemptive love Jesus suffered for you leaving you an example to follow in his steps the first example he uses his marriage the context here is how to treat your spouse when they're doing the wrong thing this is first Peter three four the same goes for your wives be good wives to your husbands responsive to their needs their husbands who is different as they are - any words about God will be captivated by your life of holy beauty what matters is not your outer appearance the styling of your hair the jewelry you wear the cut of your clothes but your inner disposition cultivate inner beauty the gentle gracious kind that God delights in and what is basically saying here is when your husband is not acting right respect your husband and treat him better than he deserves honor is so powerful to a man that will change our behavior to the person giving it to us if you want to change your husband don't treat him with disrespect treating better than he deserves men this is first Peter 3:7 talking about redemptive love the same goes for you husbands be good husbands to your wives honor them delight in them is they lack some of your advantages but in the new life of God's grace your equals treat your wives then is equal so that your prayers don't run aground you cannot disassociate the way you treat your wife with your relationship with God if you're mistreating your wife God won't hear your prayers and it says several important things here first of all it says that you live with your wives with understanding what does that mean she's different your wife isn't like you you need to understand that she's different than you it also says as with a weaker vessel okay what does that mean like fine china women are not weaker than men I just want to tell you right now they're a little physically weaker God made women a little physically weaker so they wouldn't take over the universe because the sisters would they you know they would although all the ladies know you would and but you treat her like fine china and there's a fellow heir of the grace of life your equal and if you don't do that God won't hear your prayers because you cannot disassociate the way you treat in the context here is when she's on your nerves when your husband's on your nerves and he's not doing right see in our in our natural our natural responses tit for tat you scratch my back I'll scratch yours you put a knife in my back up at three and years right the only way you can defeat a spirit is with the opposite spirit that's why jesus said love your enemies if you fight fire with fire you just get a bigger fire and redemptive love puts out the fire you're not doing what I want you to do but in response I'm gonna do what Jesus did when I wasn't doing what he wanted me to do I'm gonna love you preemptively in redemptive Li and this is how the opposite spirit is going to change our relationship this is the V SCR V vigilantly protect the priority of your marriage and the time and energy to serve your spouse you have to protect it takes energy to serve and you can't come in to your marriage you just drop down tired every night you'll be tired an out a night or two a week but you can't do that all the time you've got to have the energy to serve each other the reality of the priority of the reality of priority is who you serve the first invest and if you're telling me I'm first what that means is you serve me you certain you give me the energy and the attention that I deserve okay so one of the things or the things that endanger marriage the most are not bad things they're good things out of priority okay and so children I talked a little bit about children last week and I said to you if you don't train your children to respect your marriage you won't have a marriage because children they recognize no boundaries and they don't care if they wear you out you go to bed totally exhausted they don't care they don't care if you have a marriage they just they just want to be served all time and you put them to bed and you put them to bed you tell them go sleep and you know five minutes later I'm thirsty haven't there you steam mommy daddy I'm thirsty well you just had to drink this if you survive till the morning I've gotta go to the bathroom you got a diaper on use it there's a monster in my room good you have somebody to talk to leave us alone leave us alone and so you have to train your children to respect you Marik so I told you last week that Saturday night when our kids were growing up we put them to bed which helps a there unless there's an emergency a real emergency you stay in bed you respect mom and dad's relationship okay we have a marriage here and so we had a little sitting area in our bedroom and we had a lock on the door and we had a little sitting here in our bedroom we'd pop popcorn you know and sit there and talk this is one of the disciplines that we had in our marriage every night we sit face-to-face and there put the kids to bed we sit there face to face and we talk whatever one night we were in our bedroom it's a very very private moment you know and there was a knock on the door our daughter was around 12 I guess that agent so we didn't answer the door and so she picked the lock and walked in but she never did it again we we scared her straight she became a nun she loves her convent and so she got married and she has twin girls there are granddaughters 17 years old twins and so they were about 12 or 13 years old and one of her girls did it to her husband and she called Julie called the next day and said the Karen she said mom can you believe that help picked a lock on our door and walked in on us you know we just started worshipping you're just too good to us Jesus watching your grandchildren do to your children what your children did to you is beautiful it's beautiful and all the grandparents said so I'm saying there was some passion in that you you have to develop disciplines and traditions in your marriage that keep your marriage first being together talking face-to-face everyday taking walks together having date nights every week taking short trips together as often as you can those things keep your marriage first but you have to visually protect the time and energy to serve each other else everything in your life will just keep sapping your energy and you're just gonna keep saying well when we get through this season when we get through this season when you get through this season if you can't do it today it's no good you do it today good now and then this is the this is the II expect to be blessed and don't get discouraged jesus said but whoever is greatest among you shall be your servant and whoever exalts himself will be humbled and He Who humbles himself will be exalted whoever exalts himself will be humbled whoever humbles himself when Jesus got down on his knees and washed the disciples feet Philippians says that God because he came and took the form of a bondservant God highly exalted him and gave him a name that is above every name if you will humble yourself and serve your spouse God will exalt you you'll have you'll have a great marriage because every great marriage is a servant marriage I mean they say we're about to I'm about to pray for you and we're about to open the altars here at all of our campuses and services here in just a minute let me say if you're if you're struggling in your marriage maybe you want to come down for prayer and just have somebody pray for you and not just prayer but just committing your marriage to serving each other and I'm gonna encourage the men to be the leaders in this and if you haven't been serving your wife as you should have a conversation with your wife and tell her honey but you're the most important thing in my life and I want to serve you and maybe you haven't understood what that meant and I didn't either I didn't either but now that you've heard this message maybe it helps you maybe understand how you better serve your your wife and your house but have a conversation but maybe if you're struggling in your marriage come down for prayer and let us share our faith with you and pray for your marriage if you've never received Jesus Christ as the Lord of your life if you've never done that you can't remember to a specific time that you receive Jesus as Lord of your life as we open the altar rails here in just a minute I'm gonna ask you to come down and let one of our leaders pray with you okay and let them pray with you a short prayer that is the most important prayer you'll pray in all of eternity if you're with family or friends they can either come down with you or they'll wait on you but I encourage you if you need ministry for any reason you come down bow your heads with me if you would lord bless bless every marriage bless every marriage and let us have a servant spirit like you Jesus bless every single person who wants to be married I pray that you'll bring them a spouse that you've chosen especially for them every person who's been hurt by marriage and maybe their divorce give them hope give them hope give them a new vision for their future but thank you for the gift of marriage thank you Lord that you've given us this precious precious gift of each other and you've given us laws to protect that and I pray Lord that we would honor your laws that we would consider them sacred every single day in our marriages but lord I pray healing I pray blessing over every marriage every family bless our health Lord bless our children and grandchildren bless our ministries our jobs bless every part of our lives and let us do this week what would glorify you the most and I pray it in Jesus name Amen bless you guys
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