Jennie Allen with Sadie Robertson on the Whoa That's Good Podcast

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[Music] what's up well that's good fam we are so excited for today today is gonna be um a little bit different than our typical answering dms because we have a very special guest on the podcast today she's actually been on the podcast before and we haven't had many come on twice so this is super special but before i totally introduce her i want to kind of talk to you about something fun we're doing over on the ello sister app so we're actually about to start our very first ever book club we have thousands of girls who are joining this study together and we are actually going through jenny allen's books a little hint answer we have get out of your head on ello's sister this is on the app don't forget you can go to ella sister.com for more details and it's going to start september the 1st so we want all of you to join dive into this amazing book it has so much truth before we even get to that we are actually going to get to interview jenny allen herself with some of the questions that you have sent in to the dm so welcome jenny again to the boy that's good podcast [Music] oh this is so fun girl i love hanging out with you so fun i love it and i'm so excited for this moment because you know i feel really special and honored just to even be your friend have your number go on trips with you to where i can ask you some of these hard life questions that i'm facing right like anytime i have a bible question or a thought like i know i have access to call you and talk to you about it and that's such a gift in my life and so i'm really excited now because now we're kind of opening that up to a lot of different girls and guys who have really sent in dms to our live original orwell that's good podcast instagram page and people have honestly asked some pretty tough questions you can really read through these dms that people are really going through some stuff and seeking wisdom and advice so we're just gonna jump right in um the first question or one of the first questions that we got was did your history of anxiety and fear ever impact your relationship with your husband or your boyfriend if so how did you overcome it when is the right balance of talking about anxiety with your partner and not overwhelming them that's such a good question and first of all i just want to say to everybody listening this word this huge word anxiety i know it's super familiar to everybody right now we are in the midst of a crazy season and we're all feeling that so i think i think there's this universal anxiety right now that that even people that don't typically feel it have felt just because what anxiety is is a fear of the unknown it's a fear of of what could happen yep and and so that's that's i mean if there's ever been a definition for this moment it's that we have a lot of unknowns and a lot of things we cannot control and so you know it's like this is of course this is the enemy we're fighting right now so so yay for the person that asked this because we have to know how well first of all we have to know that it is going to affect our relationships 100 yeah it is you you think that your thoughts are invisible to people but honestly your thoughts probably wouldn't surprise people because it's so true it always comes out in some form or fashion and what i found is if i use my words and say hey this is how i'm feeling today what i garner in that comment is a lot of empathy so the minute that i admit now what's hard hardest about that is so many of us don't even know we're feeling that so many of us don't even we we just have a we're uncomfortable we're not having a good day we're cranky we're edgy you know but we don't ever call it what it is which is really we're worried about something we're anxious about something yeah and so i think the first step we all have to take is just diagnosing it ourselves and knowing you know what this is what i'm feeling i think where we can get in a mess with relationships is if we dump without wanting to change or without wanting help that's good and so that's where you know there's certainly times where i tell my husband hey i just need you to listen like can we just sit down for 30 minutes i don't want you to give me any advice i just want you to listen there are times for that but you better set it up that way yeah and i would say you're what you're doing is you're providing input right like that's why you tell somebody is you're you're inviting relationship you're inviting their thoughts back into yours and so we can't be so afraid of welcoming other people's thoughts that that we're just basically constantly venting i think that's where relationships can get unhealthy because if you think the answer is just dump all of your concerns on somebody else and and don't you know ever allow them to speak into it and to help you and to get the help you need that's going to be constant it's never going to heal you're just going to keep being hurt you're going to keep dragging that person down but i would say that the healthiest relationships i have are the friendships i can i can speak and say hey this is where i am yeah and then i can say to them what do you think what do you think i need to do what do you think i need to see that i'm not seeing what do you think you know god thinks about this and invite them to bring truth into that situation and yeah i think we we sometimes over um we have too high of expectations on people to just listen perfectly sure and to be the perfect empathetic listener and it's like you know what we really have to help people do that well so we have to say this is what i need right now and and if it goes poorly you kind of need to say okay so that was thank you so much for listening um what what i really need right now is is advice or what i really need right now is is just for you to listen yeah um and don't don't be too hard on that other person because all of us are a little bit of a mess and i think healthy relationships are those that that can communicate your own needs and then also realize it may or may not um extend past your your boyfriend or husband's ability to deal with it right so certainly my husband has not been the end-all be-all there have been times i've needed to pull in a counselor a mentor a friend a girlfriend you know sometimes it's like you know what he doesn't need to listen to the hour-long version but i need to tell the hour-long version you know what i go hang out with a girlfriend and and so i think it's just knowing knowing your audience you know knowing nobody you're talking to you're terribly disappointed in them yeah don't be terribly disappointed in them if if they don't quite hit the mark that your mom did when you were in seventh grade and you came home with your problems that is so true funny story this literally played out like two weeks ago with me and christian um and i love how you said like sometimes you just have to like tell people like this is what i need right now like i'm about to vent or this about to i'm about to like say what i'm gonna say and like i need you like i don't want this to turn into vinnie i actually want you to encourage me i actually want you to challenge me and when we don't set that up it can go wrong like me and christian the other day we were coming home and i find like whenever i get really busy i have like a lot more anxious thoughts because whenever i'm not so busy like i can i feel like i can kind of fight those a little bit better i'm kind of more unnoticed and more but when my life gets busy like i i kind of get lazy with my thoughts right and i we were on our way home from like another trip we have been driving so many places because flying's crazy right now with covenant and we're still trying to do a lot of things that we had scheduled through driving we were getting home and i just had this moment where i was like about to have a panic attack and i felt like this car was following me and i was like told christian i'm like i feel like this car is following me i'm getting really freaked out about it and blah blah and i just need to tell you and he responds like oh no like okay then let's go to your parents house and i was like no i was like you're supposed to tell me i'm being crazy and the car is not following me and it was just funny because he was like trying to help me saying like oh well if you're scared anything is following you go to your parents house but i wanted him to tell me like you're being crazy that's just anxiety talking the car's not following you go home you're fine but it's funny like you have to give people the invitation to speak truth in your life and sometimes you have to tell them like hey like i want you to tell me when my fear is irrational like i want you to tell me and challenge me when i know it's crazy and i think for me you know sometimes for me like saying stuff it's not that i really think that it's just that i need to just like get it out i just need to tell somebody this is what i'm thinking i know it's irrational i need you to be with me and say yeah that's kind of crazy but i still love you and so it was funny because that totally played out for us the other day in a really funny way um the next question somebody sent in was have you ever had to cut people out that you love out of your life because they were toxic to you how did you end that relationship and do it in a way that still honors them and can be done in love wow this is such a tough one i know yes yes i have had to do that before and i think we've got to be really careful to put someone in that category because you know we really are called to love people in the midst of difficult circumstances and so one of the grids i have for is this a relationship that needs to i need to press through this conflict and really fight for or is this a friendship that really probably needs to kind of fade away and and i would say the first question i ask is um how many times have i tried and truth to speak or in love to speak the truth how many times have i tried to reconcile how many times have i and and how has that gone in the past right so so have they been humble have they wanted to change have they wanted um to reconcile yeah and then and then for on their side you know have they you know been clear communicators about what is difficult for them and i think there are people that you have done that with three four five six times and it's still not changing at all and i don't mean it's still you know it's all relationships are broken all relationships are full of two centers so you can't have this you know unrealistic expectation of somebody but if you just feel like you know what we are not getting anywhere um i i also have another rule so that's the first thing is how many times have you confronted them the second thing is is this somebody that you need or is this somebody that needs you if someone doesn't fall in one of those categories for me i probably am not going to spend energy and time with them i'm not saying they're not a worthy individual on earth and like yeah hopefully they have those people that need them and that that they need but it you know and there's just a lot of relationships that kind of fall in this peripheral that's kind of i mean i would call it more than an acquaintance but they're really not you know required in our lives and they're really not um somebody that is that you're really investing in or that and i think when that that level of person starts costing you a lot of energy yeah you know that's somebody that you're like you know what i'm just going to kind of back up i'm just going to kind of um i'm not going to call as much i'm not going to spend as much time with them um and then you get into do you return their calls or what do you say to them i am so direct that is the way i'm wired i say pretty matter of factly and so you know a lot of those people we've had pretty direct conversations about our friendship and just been like you know what um this isn't this isn't working anymore yeah and and so that's that's really hard to do and i prefer um it just kind of distancing a little um but but then here's another here's another situation where it gets complicated is sometimes people think you're distancing from them and you're not you know so that's true that's where i am i'm a fan of direct communication i think you just say it you say it and then you tell your friends because sadie you me we're busy like we are traveling we are doing the next thing and so people can think yeah you know that that we don't value them anymore we don't need them anymore and and that's not true and so i've just told my closest friends the people in those two categories um hey by the way i'm gonna go through seasons where i feel distant that's not me quitting you yes if anything were to happen i'll be direct and i'll tell you yep so i think i'm gonna side with on that one direct communication i just think it always is because two maybe they could grow from it and you know what there's a lot of immature people out there that are going to punish you for that that are just going to talk bad about you they're going to gossip and you know what you'll live yeah you live it's okay people can be mad at you you can disappoint people they can gossip about you and you can be okay through that you will live i love that that's so good jenny i agree i'm 100 for direct communication and like you said it is so hard and your stomach will want to drop right before you go into those conversations it will drop right before you go to those conversations but it's always so worth it even if the end of that conversation means you both kind of agree to say we're in different places and that's okay and we were friends for a time and i'm for you in a different way now a little bit further away but for you um those that conversation or it ends up resulting in an and something that y'all hadn't actually just needed to talk about and you mend a relationship i think direct conversation can go one of two ways and both normally end up good and if it doesn't like you said you will live what i've realized is that like when we spend too much time on those relationships that just are toxic you don't realize how much that affects your relationships that are healthy like you don't realize that like when you are so invested in a toxic relationship and it's taking so much energy and thought and hurt out of you that's the that's what you're bringing into other relationships i remember i walked through that for a few years and my friend did too and we were like we were struggling with our friendship not because we were off but because of other people we were just allowing to just we were constantly giving more time to that than truly just the friendship that was right in front of us that was so from the lord that was so encouraging that was so awesome and so i think that you know in order to do justice to yourself and the people around you that you love it is important that you have this direct conversations that you need to have and know when it's time to like you said not just leave somebody high and dry but but walk away in a noble way right um well and i'm thinking of a great story i'm thinking of a great story of a friend of mine that what she said was to to this group of friends that she kind of always felt like were upset with her and disappointed in her and she just said you know what i don't think i'm supposed to be in this group of friends because i think you all have higher expectations for each other than i can ever meet and i care about you but i'm just i'm gonna i'm gonna kind of go ahead in this different direction because i don't want to keep disappointing you i thought that was a really strong bold way to kind of draw a boundary of saying hey i don't want to keep disappointing you i don't want to put you in that position so i'm going to i'm going to back up from this that is so good wow i love that i feel like that's going to help a lot of people right now because i can think about like three friends right now that i've been having this conversation with that that right there is really gonna help um all right another girl said this and i think this is something so many people struggle with but she said how can i overcome thinking poorly of myself such a big one and with thoughts and the whole get out of your head thing i feel like this is huge yeah i gotta sit up for this one um first of all what great questions my gosh i love every one of them and and i do think these are your team or or somebody pick the right ones because i know right these are the ones i bet you're hearing all the time sadie because i hear these all the time um these are the categories right so um so how we view ourselves i would say this the first thing i'm just going to take people through the process here because i think it's so helpful is the first thing you've got to understand is how are you viewing yourself i think again we walk through life with these feelings of insecurity and insignificance and um and we'd never give it a name and we never say we never say this is what i'm feeling we just have all these thoughts that run wild in our mind my son the other day he his um his enemy is rejection so when he feels rejection even in a small way you know he's 12 years old so that happens a lot when you're 12. yeah you know you know a daily occurrence so so when you feel when he feels any rejection no matter how small it is he reacts so dramatically and so what we've been praying against is the spirit of rejection that he constantly feels and lives with and and you know he he was adopted and so that rejection is so deep and it came from such a young age yeah and the reason i tell that story is i think we've got to realize that these passing thoughts in our head are coming from pretty deep places right yeah so so those that feeling of what you just said that that you that you don't value yourself this person that wrote in the question what what i would say to you is the first thing is that is in direct opposition from the truth yep that the bible is clear about that god designed you and formed you and knows every hair on your head and he set you apart for purposes that he created in advance for you to do so so the value and the worth and the dignity not to mention he sends jesus christ to die for you so your worth your value who you are is so significant that the god of the universe would would be you know brokenhearted at that because it's just it's so not true it's a lie from the enemy so so we got to decide what lie is it like what people don't just feel in general bad about themselves they they have a bad body image well that can come from you know a perfectionistic father that that was critical of you that can come from um being surrounded constantly by people that talk about um their physical appearance so so i think just narrowing down what it is that that that haunts you yeah now what's interesting about the enemy his favorite thing to do is whatever that thing is like if you know if if to get my son to admit that he feels rejection that's very hard for him to do actually yeah um that thing is you're actually so embarrassed about that thing that you never want to say it out loud well so you work harder to cover that thing up even though that thing whatever it is is somewhat universal like so true rarely have i heard or have i said a a lie or a fear or a sin that i didn't get head nods pretty quickly from other people true so it's the that's what the enemy though is so good at because what shame does is shame you know will will have you say a general thing like i have a bad self-estee esteem where what you really feel is rejection from your father or rejection from your friendships or rejection from guys maybe a specific guy that that was critical of you and so well that's the thing that's hard to say you know that's the thing that takes so much vulnerability now why why am i going so deep here because if we don't dig out the root of where that thing came from and how is god supposed to heal it well if we can't name it if we don't know what it is and may i think most of us know what it is but we're afraid to say it because shame has attached itself so tightly to it that we hide it and then the enemy has won because you know this is where the book i mean this is my story you know i i struggled with doubt for so long i mean 18 months of a season of doubt where it grew and grew and grew and i was losing my faith literally losing my faith and and then i say it out loud and almost the moment i said it out loud there was this power that was released from it where i wasn't alone in the dark anymore with the devil or he could tell me whatever he wanted and so so my prayer and my hope is that that we're good friends to each other that we ask the hard questions that we don't stop at you don't feel good about yourself but we really go why yep why if you don't know if your friend is sharing something with you or you want to be a good friend the greatest question you can ask is why that's so good keep asking it and when they say the answer to that say but why again like yeah keep digging you know just keep going because there's probably a deeper reason that that came from and before you know it that person will be crying i could i could tell you because i've done this to too many people yes they will start crying because at some point you'll strike the thing they don't want to say yeah when you strike it they'll probably cry and and this is how we friend each other guys like this is we we go to the deep dark place where the devil is holding us hostage and we say it out loud so yeah so back to the view of ourselves all of us um have believed that lie so so just so that person listening knows it is not just you you are not alone it is not just you we have all bought that lie in some form or fashion to where um our significance has eroded from what god did put in us as as human beings on earth that he designed so so you're not alone and that means you can say it out loud and that that somebody else can help you process that because we need people beside us to fight for us to help us believe the truth that day that i shared you know my deep dark thing i was with two friends and they began to speak truth over me they fasted they prayed for me they fought for me as much as any two people could fight for me and that was the beginning of healing for me and it's amazing and i think we've got to realize the enemy's involved we can't just make this just about our thought life sure we can't you know and that's where my bad reviews have come in is this is this is not you know this isn't just about your thought lives you all this about jesus and bible and the devil you know because because that's where the war is being fought and second corinthians 10 says that it says you know don't fight the spirit with fleshly weapons fight spirit with spirit because it's good you're not we're at war with spirit and and so that lie that you believe that that possibly was even planted by your father the enemy has has built that up and and taken that to a place where it's grown and grown and grown and grown and the best example i have of this is um i grew up with a dad that was critical and i struggled with an eating disorder in college and then really until i was a young mom i i struggled with it and and it was very consuming and i didn't i wanted out and i didn't know how to get out and i didn't know how to view myself yeah rightly and and i remember um one day specifically you know going to my dad and i'd written all of these i really worked through it and and found a lot of healing because of jesus and and counseling and all that and and then i on the other side of that though i take to my dad you know i want a strong relationship with him still and so i take to him you know how it felt to be around him where i always felt like there were arrows you know pointed at me and and i didn't feel safe yeah so i expected him to either one affirm this negative view i had of myself like yes i was critical of you which would be hard to hear because i i kind of wanted to hope that he didn't mean all that you know yeah or he would say i didn't say any of that or i didn't mean any of that and then it would not validate anything i'd been through i was so scared to take it to him but i knew it was obedience and i wanted to lift that anchor in my life i didn't want to stay you know with this heavy thing in my life and so so i take him this letter and i read it to him it's six pages long and the thing i never could have dreamed and some of you your dads will never say this to you but the thing i never could have dreamed is that he cried well and he said jenny it wasn't you it was me well and he owned his struggles and talked about his life growing up and how he was raised and and it just it was a thing i never saw coming and i think even if your dad or or somebody you love doesn't have the maturity to be able to say that i love my dad so much for saying that and recognizing that that's true like like people take you know because i don't think it's always as simple as just us in our heads alone thinking negative thoughts about ourselves i think they came from somewhere and wherever they came from just remember that person was broken too yeah and somebody was critical of them and maybe this isn't about you maybe this is about them well a man what a crazy beautiful story i know i hate to say beautiful because i know it's so hard to walk through that for so many years but beautiful redeeming story and now y'all my dad is my biggest fan is he has grown so much in that i think it broke his heart more than it broke mine and yeah and that reconciliation has just been better than i could have ever dreamed i mean a lot of you out there i bet you i bet you sadie a lot of people are going to go have an important conversation with a relative and and i can't promise it'll go so well but i can promise you that god will use it and god will be enough for you even if it goes poorly so true so just to encourage everybody listening like actually think about that kind of like this is me saying to you why like why and keep going a little bit deeper with the why you've been feeling the way that you've been feeling because you don't need to spend another day having those toxic thoughts about yourself or thinking you're the only one struggling with that so why why are you thinking those things about yourself and if you can pinpoint that and be able to have the conversations that you need to have like breakthroughs gonna happen and it's gonna look different than jenny's story and it's gonna look different than my story but it's gonna be god and your story um i remember i had a similar thing happen to me and it's funny because i struggled too with eating disorder in a way my brain was just telling me all kinds my mind was telling all kinds of crazy thoughts and i kind of pinpointed it back to um this guy i was dating and some of the things that he spoke over me and this also doesn't always happen but we were able to have a conversation a year and a half after he broke up and he apologized and he said the same thing he was like it was me where i was at in that time i was struggling so much with insecurity and i saw what god was doing in your life and it was just my way of like bringing you down a little bit you know and it's crazy because like i would have not ever thought that he would have said that right and then i struggled for so long from being the reciprocate of all of those things but and so that's what happens you know somebody speaks something and then they're struggling and now you're struggling and then you go years of struggle whenever really we just have to stop that thought we have to ask yourself why like jenny said uproot those things so that god's able to heal it um so good i want to ask two more things um kind of i know we're asking real kind of heavy stuff but at the same time when do you ever get to sit down with danielle and have an amazing conversation someone who knows the word of god has kids herself loves this generation like this is a rare moment so i'm asking all the hard questions because i love it like you said these are questions i get all the time and sometimes i don't know what to say honestly um because sometimes i'm still battling them you know and so i'm this is like the things i'm asking people um but this one particularly i've gotten a lot um and this one is the it says how do you deal with intrusive thoughts specifically in pure thought and i think this is another one of those things that you kind of said it's like you know the minute you say something you realize like you're not the only one because somebody will head not or be like oh i've struggled with that too and recently we have actually gotten a ton of dms from girls about struggling with pornography and masturbation and impure thoughts and um it's one of those things where every one of them thinks they're the only one and i think it's because we talk about guys struggling with that a lot we don't really talk about girls struggling it's like a more shameful again the word shame thing to admit that you struggle with but the amount of dms we get and the amount of people that comment i'm like i just first want everybody to know we get a lot you're not the only one that doesn't mean it's okay that you know just like fear fear is still not we still don't want to struggle with anxiety even though everybody pretty much struggles with anxiety we still want to fight that but you're not alone and so jenny what are some some of the advice that you give to people who are just struggling with those impure uh thoughts that just keep coming up or that that addiction and they feel like they're stuck or they're only they're the only one well the first thing is the fact that they're asking out loud is so great because that that shows two things number one it shows that they don't have um a comfortable relationship with that sin they want it to change right true and that's huge and then two they're not in so much shame that they won't reach out and so yeah my thing with this is it is just like anything else one of my best friends this is her story and she talks about it all the time in fact she talked about said the word masturbation from the if gathering stage last year or two years ago and it was so powerful and you cannot believe the hundreds of messages we got and she got from girls saying exactly this thank you thank you thank you for saying it out loud because so many girls are struggling with it so that is a big fat lie that you're the only one that is not true at all so many girls in fact most girls in this generation are going to struggle with it and the reason why is because we live in such a sexualized culture right it is everywhere i don't even mean to see stuff and i see it online so you can't you can't you can't escape it and so you you know that that's real however we can fight it and we can fight it really well and i i know that in our house um we have such we have really open conversations about absolutely everything in our house and i would expect that i mean caroline looks at me the other day and you know we're just talking through all these kind of things every day and so she's asking me like what would you do if i told you blank and you know of course immediately i'm like well tell me you know like yeah is this your roundabout way you know of telling me and and so i said it really doesn't matter what you tell me the the same answer if it's you know if it's any i just named everything i hear from girls right abortion whatever and i just name it all yeah i was like whatever it is we just don't want you to be alone like we want to go through it with you and so i don't know how long young your listeners are certainly if you're in high school and middle school i would tell a mentor a parent somebody that is older if you just tell your peers they do not know what to do with it right so true and i can't promise you your parents or your mentor will either but keep telling somebody until somebody doesn't overreact and can help you because it's good there there are a lot of people that that have walked through this that are ahead of you and so you want to find those people um also yeah if you're in college same thing goes you want to find somebody above you to to share this with um and and i think the the beauty is you know i'm gonna go on down in um second corinthians 10 because it says that we have um divine weapons that have the power to destroy destroy strongholds okay yeah so this has certainly become a stronghold in a lot of people's lives this has become an addiction and a stronghold and the way we fight strongholds and addictions are a little bit different than a negative thought um although they're not it's not that different we've got to be able to um name it and and fight it right and bring people around it and all that but i do think that that there are ways to fight this that are are more drastic and i think i go back to the verse that says you know if your eyes causing you to stumble you know cut off your eye now i'm not going to say cut out your eye because of pornography i'm not but i'm going to say we take it that seriously right we really protect ourselves so you get the software that you need to protect your computer you um you don't go see movies i control my input so much so my struggle was doubt which um was what the enemy used to just run rampant in my mind and that grew if i always exposed myself to cynical people i had to cut out twitter i had to cut out movies that were really dark um those had would affect me for for days and it would i had to cut out a lot of news and things that were secular because it just made me um it made me struggle with that and make made me feel like i was dumb for believing all this and and so it kind of reinforced some of those lies same things go with anything you're addicted to if it's alcohol if it's um unhealthy relationships like you've just got to draw those boundaries and be really good protective with those but it's not fun and it's not sexy right like nobody wants to say okay i'm struggling with alcohol and i'm never going to drink again because i might be an alcoholic nobody wants to say that that's a bummer you know you want to be able to say oh i don't have that big of a struggle with it i socially drink or you know you you might need to never have another drink of alcohol and you may need very strict software on your computer and your phone and you know it's okay you know that's what we do that's what the cutting you know the eye out that's causing you to stumble means is that you you do radical things to protect yourself so that it doesn't enslave you and let me give you the reason why because it's not actually that you're going to get massively punished by god although there is a road to sin and death and a road to life and peace and we want to avoid the road to sin and death because it causes even if we're going to be saved eternally it causes sin and death and destruction in our lives any sin that we walk in um doubt did for me it caused you know fear of death and anxiety and all these things grew the road to sin and death will always lead that direction it's because we want to be on the road to life and peace i mean that's the real thing is like rather than feeling like you know what this road i just can't go down it i can't go down and it's like no build a vision of of a healthy marriage where you're not constantly distracted by lust yeah outside of your marriage like imagine that and fight for that it's worth it that's so great and i think you've got it you know that's what kept me more pure i certainly had my share of um falling off the rails when it came to purity but but what what helped me the most was actually a vision of of peace and life and joy and walking with god and and a better you know and following his way in a better road than the road that i was on with that's so true oh my gosh that is so good i'm so excited for people to listen to that even for me like that was so helpful that was so helpful and i can say the same thing chris and i have talked about this since and christian's been open about his story before we met and one of the things we talked about is i said i've always been what helped me with purity even though same kind of went off the roles every now and then it wasn't perfect but what helped me with that to keep purity in mind was i i had this idea of what it would look like to just be with my husband that peace and that love and just get to share that and when christian i taught he was like that's so cool that you thought about that like you thought about me you thought about our future kids and he was sharing like i never thought about that like i didn't consider my wife i didn't even think that because i was in high school you know and i think you know if you're in high school listening to this or you're in middle school or you're in college like consider your wife consider your husband consider your life and your relationship with god consider your peace of mind when you go to sleep at night if it's like anxiety and fear consider your peace of mind when you go to sleep at night if it's doubt like that's for me i have to like i cannot watch anything dark no movie no tv show i can't listen to anything dark like i am so sensitive to what i watch or what i listen to because i know i'm exchanging it for a piece of mind and so just consider those things that you're whatever you're putting in or whatever you're looking at whatever you're listening to and how they're going to affect your future or your tonight or your tomorrow morning because they will have an effect for sure now but that was so good um this is the last question and this is also a big one but again something so many people are asking it's not shocking that they're asking because we are living in the year 2020 and it is cray-cray um but a lot of people have questions about the end times and this is how this girl phrases it so i'll read it like her she said i have anxiety and fear over the end times and what is happening in her world right now i know i shouldn't fear the end but i do exclamation point um and i think that that's so real for so many people so many people have been asking questions it feels like the end times the end times what do i do all the thoughts and so i would love for you to just give some peace to people who are having those overwhelming thoughts about the end times and just the state of the world that we're in right now okay well first of all i would say i kind of feel excited by it all i love it i do i feel really excited i want to be alive when when the wild things start happening right because we want our lives to count and so um i i think you know the crazier it gets the more like some of my friends and i are kind of like okay like game on let's go so i think maybe we could just shift our view of it because it's really an honor if in our generation this began to unfold so so i think we we need to not be afraid of it i think we need to be prepared for it and we need to realize that it's not easy and what scripture tells us is this is going to get worse and worse and worse and you know i always look at my kids and i think is it going to get worse and worse and worse and you all are going to be the ones that get to usher in the kingdom you know um and i know i'll get to too because i i mean i know i'll be part of it but to be alive on earth when when jesus comes back to be alive on earth for the tribulation like those kind of things that's that's where um i think everybody's thinking and talking i think that would be an incredible honor and and hard too you know depending on where you fall on um the rapture and that timeline i always like to think we're gonna get i'm always a pre-rapture person not because necessarily i don't see the op the evidence for it in scripture but i'm like might as well miss the tribulation like if i'm gonna have to pick what to believe i'm like i might as well that's awesome but no matter where you fall on that that we're in the middle of the tribulation that that we are about to start it or that um you know it's coming and will be raptured first i do think that um things are are certainly growing in their in intensity and and we can't deny that i remember chris kane told me we were talking about this and and i asked her i was like what's your gut you know her prophetic gifts and and she said she said well i know when you're pregnant and your contractions get this close together then it probably means the baby's about to come and so you know i think i think it's it's i think we all i think every generation including the disciples are supposed to live true as if it's in our generation i think that's actually our downfall if we don't consider that so yeah i don't think we're melodramatic to be like this could be you know coming to an end and and how do we live because of that because again even the first generation of the church thought that way so so let's think that way you know and then and then how does that make us live but we shouldn't fear it we should be excited for for that because because our god is is going at that point it's going to make things right right that's true that's ultimately what's coming he's going to make things right he's going to take us home we're going to be with him now the the other side the flip side of that is who's coming and who's not and and what a great place for us to you know in this conversation sadie because there's nothing that matters more than giving jesus away to our generation and true and in light of everything we've talked about that's this is ultimately why we've got to be free right this is why we cannot be drained and in unhealthy toxic relationships this is why we have to fight our anxiety and and not live in our minds in an unhealthy way this is why we have to be able to name our sin and fight it i mean we've really covered like like a lot of parts of life where the enemy gets us and and gets unhealthy and and the ultimate reason why we don't want to be bound we don't want to be stuck in these places so we don't want to be in bondage the ultimate reason is because we've got a job to do yeah you know it's like we will be made if you believe in jesus christ you're not working for your salvation you're not working for him to be pleased with you you're working because you want to spend your life well for the glory of god because this life is so short so it's great so that is the most motivating reason to be free and to live free to be pure and to pursue holiness is because i don't want to waste my life i want it to count i want people to see my god through me i want people to be able to go um into the kingdom because i was you know showing them hope and that road to life and peace rather than the road to sin and death so it's great you know that's the ultimate motivation and i think i don't know i just get i truly get giddy and giggly about it i'm like let's let's go like i love it something in me is like let's go to war let's go fight you know and we are we are and and whatever generation it comes in it matters and and we are ushering our generation into the kingdom even if the end times is 10 generations from now it will come and the work we do in our generation will matter for eternity hey man somebody quote that that is so good you remind me so much of a security guard i have one time he's a favorite security yard ever his name is eric he has been with me on so many tours and every time we go on tour he meets with the whole tour and he always tells everybody the same thing every time he said just remember if there's ever a situation happening if i'm running one direction you run the other because he says i'm gonna be running towards the problem and i think of you when i hear that because you're like just remember whatever happens i'm gonna be running towards the fight like you're in it you're excited by it and and it helps my faith as a believer i'm like yes i should be too like i need to have that confidence and that courage to be excited about those times and yes what better thing than to be here when jesus comes back like that would be an honor like you said and so i hope that encourages so many of you out there i know we've talked about some stuff that i think all of you need to hear i'm not even gonna say it was hard it was heavy because it's what we're going through like it's real and so i hope you guys are so encouraged you might need to listen to this again take some notes ask yourself the why and like she said even practically think about your future draw yourself visions actually take what we're saying and apply it to your life because i believe if you do there's so much wisdom in that and you're going to come out as like so much stronger in your faith so much stronger as a person and your relationships and you'll truly be set free by the power of god that he has a real life and so jenny i'm excited i cannot wait for people to listen to this so thank you so much for all of your wisdom and just being so real with us hey and i want to say one more thing i want to say those of you that are listening so this little book club that that sadie's doing it's it's war right like this is what you dream of for your community sadie and yeah and that's why i'm here that's why i said yes because i'm like let's go fight for these people that love god and want to follow him and and i think you need people that will fight for you so you guys go join that like and i'm not talking about for my book i'm talking about that community because it's going to be right now it's it's this book but it's going to be ongoing community for you to have people speaking truth over you and fighting for you amen seriously join it i mean like jenny said it's not just about her book or our app it's about y'all and having a community like where we get these questions we get them from the dms but we are talking about these things on ello's sister like girls in their community groups are discussing the things that they're walking through and helping one another out just like jenny said go find a friend here's a good place to start i obviously want you to have in-person friends too but it's a great place like she said to open the conversation ask an initial question we have so many women and girls that we trust pouring into you with answers and wisdom and the biblical truth and so go join the book club don't forget ellosistry.com or go to the app store and get the ello sister app [Music] hey hey guys welcome back to the whoa that's good podcast we have a very special guest with us with with us today formerly known as sadie robertson now she's sadie rob huff thanks for joining us today well thanks christian for having me on your podcast well that's good that's such a great concept yeah it was crazy i was doing this q a one time and my mother-in-law said whoa that's good and i said i should totally start a podcast that's good our stories are so similar yeah it's crazy it's really blown up it's awesome check it out he said make sure i practice today so sadie our fans our followers our people our friends one they're wanting to ask you some questions okay be careful who you trust salt and sugar look the same oh that's good that is good advice that is really good yeah salt and sugar do look the same but i'm telling you if you put salt in my tea it would be disgusting yeah but you put sugar in my tea yeah i love that i actually think that's really great advice be careful you trust and it's also takes a sermon but sometimes you don't know right off the bat um everything about somebody so give it time you know sometimes it's not like as prominent as salt being in your tea sometimes it takes a few sips to realize that somebody might not be a trustworthy person but when you find out put the drink down for lack of a better term um walk away be kind be honorable but know who the people are that you can tell your things to and who the people are you might just want to be a friend too but not have to give your heart to whoa that's really good yeah um i think so too i think you definitely have to be careful with who you trust and when i first saw that i for i thought of um the verse in the gospels where um it says that they believed in jesus because of the signs and they said he did not entrust himself to them yeah it's just so profound that like even jesus like you know if you're wondering if you can't trust it and when jesus didn't trust people when he was on earth yeah um so then you know give yourself that freedom if someone um gives you bad vibes or whatever or they give you this bad feeling so millennial you don't necessarily have to you're on my podcast right now you don't necessarily have to trust them yeah um but you know use wisdom and you do want to get people to benefit the doubt most of the time you're good yeah don't cross me okay it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission horrible yeah i don't like that i mean if it's like not detrimental to anything yes like but if that's your motive like yeah that should not be but there are times you're like okay okay never mind bad advice i'm in the wrong i'm realizing i am in the hot seat yes don't do that ask for permission yeah because then you won't have to ask for forgiveness there you go yeah thank you thank you okay i feel like this is the problem there is somebody in this dream right now her name is stuff she's my friend i keep looking at her because she knows i do that like i do stuff and now i'm like it's better to ask for forgiveness so i feel like i would not be truthful to the people watching myself my husband or my friend to say i have not done that that's so true but i also think like but i also think it can be like a sneaky kind of thing oh yeah you know like in our marriage like i'm not gonna like no yeah that's that was my first year it's not dead if it's not detrimental bad advice but yes also for those listening my guest today is my wife um this person is asking here again this is not your podcast this is my podcast we are one this is our podcast who's one asking the questions i have the questions thank you um i'm sure this is a question about life maybe not that's necessarily running way this about life because this is life life's a marathon not a sprint yes life is a marathon life well unless like you well no life is a matter of that these are hard because you like you start to think super deep about it but then you have to bring it back to actually the question you're like okay actually yes life is a marathon not a spread in the grand scheme of things yes we are like a vapor it's fast but we also have to take life as a marathon and like take breaks every now and then go slow speed up sometimes so you can't just go full speed ahead like you will literally crash yeah yeah it's definitely marathon not a sprint yeah for sure um i think you're gonna like this one i've seen some clips of you just from some different things falling down is an accident staying down as a choice i feel like sometimes i see you fall you just you kind of can be kind of clumsy sometimes mission huh oh my gosh you had a great you had a great quote i saw the video of you speaking at the global leadership conference last week really good um but you said something about falling down in public can you yeah can you tell our guests and our friends that you're such a great interviewer christian i was talking about falling down and i read this thing one time and it said for those who fall down in public they get it twice as fast and it's true i mean think about physically following when you fall like and everybody's looking through you get up you get your butt up quick i don't care your whole knee is bleeding it's scary you're a bruised left and right you get out and you're like that hurt i'm fine i'm really fine really and it's the same when you fall emotionally or spiritually at times like if you fall in public it's important that you get up and a lot of times when it is public you'll get up twice as fast even though it's embarrassing and it's hard kind of helps you recover a little bit faster but yeah i love that falling down is yeah that's really good and i talked about that the other day um i think unforgiveness can have something to do with keeping us down a lot of times and i talked about how like um someone like getting the wind knocked out of you and how somebody said something to me one time where i just physically felt the wind getting knocked out of me even though nobody touched me um like i didn't get punched but i felt like oh i took my breath away when that person said something so hurtful and i feel like i kind of face planted right you're on the ground it's in those moments where you have a choice you can stay on the ground you can wallow in it and you can get bitter and you can live your life in that same place or you can get back up and that getting back up has to do with forgiving the person that spoke that over you and um you know letting out that bitterness in your heart and letting out the seeds that they planted in your heart so it doesn't keep you on the ground um and you just gotta move on i mean you just gotta keep going because again life is a marathon not a sprint but it's it's definitely some sort of running right you got to keep going you know you can't just sit on the sidelines and watch it go by when you can but that's not a way to live the only life you've been given that's awesome you should have my job it's crazy that's awesome okay all right last question just because it's a treat we have you in the house today always say what you are thinking no there is wisdom and not speaking the bible talks about be slow to speak quick to listen and um what does it say you sort of speak quick to listen and so to become angry yeah so um yeah yeah i don't think it's wise to always say what you're thinking for sure yeah well it was a treat yeah and the bible talks about our tongue yeah it holds the power of life and death so for sure well it was a treat having you here today i said treat that was the second time i've said it but thank you for being here you are awesome and we love you thanks guys [Music] thank you so much for listening to the whoa that's good podcast i have so much fun doing this i hope you'll have fun listening and don't forget to follow me on instagram at legitcityrob and follow the podcast at whoa that's good podcast head on over to liveoriginal.com to see when i'm in a city near you or visit live 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