Islamic Apologetics Ep 7 Muhammad Is Found In The Bible

hello everyone welcome to another episode of this series that we've been going through myself and our dear brother dr. David Wood in relationship to many of the arguments raised by our Muslim friend I'm your host al fatty and you can always watch this particular series at serie international.com and also at our YouTube channel and same also applies to our brother David word where you can watch it also at his YouTube channel acts 17 apologetics today we are going to talk about an interesting of course argument that you hear about over and over again has to do with the idea that Mohammed is found in the Bible and let me tell you this as a form of Muslim I honestly find this argument laughable for a one reason the reason is I've always believed the Bible is corrupt so how can I go to the Bible to try to find something that supports my own belief when I've already discounted the source that I want to use to prove my own belief with that in mind I want to turn it over to dr. David Wood well you're you're you're absolutely correct there in the absurdity of so many Muslims claiming that the Bible's been corrupted and then trying to show us from the Bible that Muhammad was a true prophet I mean even if you did find something in the Bible saying that Muhammad was a prophet if Muslims are also saying that the Bible's been corrupted how would we know that that's not one of the corrupted parts but this is Muslims do use this argument and there's a reason Muslims use this argument the reason is that it comes from the Quran it's a claim from the Quran that the Bible contains prophecies about the coming of Muhammad and this has to be in both the Old and New Testament so let's turn to the Quran to see what Allah says about the Torah and the gospel chapter 7 verse 157 of the Quran says that those who follow the messenger the unlettered prophet whom they find mentioned in their own in the Torah and the gospel it is they who will prosper so notice a couple things this means one it means that Jews and Christians still had the Torah and the gospel during the time of Muhammad so that means that the Torah in the gospel had been transmitted down to the seventh century at least and that's interesting because we have copies of the Torah and the gospel from before that time so we know what the tour in the gospel of the seventh century said but it's also interesting and that it gives us a way to test Muhammad's revelations right if I say hey I mentioned in the Bible or I mentioned here I'm giving you an opportunity to investigate my claims and so the Quran here gives us an opportunity to test whether Mohammed was a true prophet now Muslims for 14 centuries have been looking through the Bible to try and find where it talks about Muhammad there are many of these places we don't have time to go through all of them but we'll go through the best we'll go through the best according to them in other words if you look up what this verse is talking about in Yusuf Ali's edition of the Koran or many other editions of the Quran when it says that Muhammad is found in the Torah and the gospel they give two main passages one from the Torah one from the Gospel as their main proof that Muhammad is mentioned in our scriptures and so the main passages they give are one from Deuteronomy 18 and one from John chapter 14 so the Torah and the gospel so we'll look at the best we won't look through all of them we can do that later but right now we want to look at the best ones so the top prophecy from the Torah is Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 15 some Muslims will also put Deuteronomy 18 18 which basically say the same thing that God's going to send a prophet like Moses so Deuteronomy 18 verse 15 the Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me Moses speaking the Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you from your countrymen you shall listen to him right now there are so many problems with claiming that this is about Mohammed but Muslims still argue it and they'll they'll use arguments along the lines of Moses was a political leader and a military leader and a prophet saw all simultaneously Mohammed and Moses were like each other in this sense because that's what Mohammed was too they both delivered a law to their people so look at the similarities this is what this is saying now just by reading the verse you can already see some of the problems a prophet like me from among you who's he talking to he's talking to he's talking to Jews from your countrymen which this translates in his country it's actually brethren and Muslims will argue that brethren here refers to their brethren the Ishmaelites now the problem is anytime anytime the Torah is talking about someone someone else because they are their brethren in a sense they're they're their relatives it will say your brethren who are and it will specify the other group when it just says brethren as it does even in the same chapter it's talking about your fellow Jews the 12 tribes primarily mm-hmm and so even even if you just read what this is saying no no Jew during this time would have thought oh this is talking about a prophet coming from among the Arabs 2,000 years from now would have never entered anyone's mind and the setting is important this is in the wilderness they're prepared to enter into the prophet into the Promised Land where is - male lies here there is no shamea lights whatsoever yeah and so even if we just read the verse there's something strange about appealing to this but Muslims will say Muhammad was like Moses in various ways and and you can see why they would argue that Muhammad and Moses were similar in certain ways the problem of course is that when the Bible talks about a prophet like Moses we know what that phrase like Moses meant in this context and we know it from the book of Deuteronomy itself this same book tells us what this is referring to when it's talking about someone coming like Moses correct so we'll turn to the net verse Deuteronomy chapter 34 verses 10 through 12 this is the very end and says that this prophet hasn't arisen right the prophet like Moses hasn't come yet says since that time no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses notice like Moses oh they're talking about the prophet like Moses since that time no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses whom the Lord knew face to face for all the signs and wonders which the Lord sent him to perform in the land of Israel against Pharaoh all his servants and all his land and for all the mighty and for all the great terror which Moses performed in the sight of Israel so someone the Lord knew face to face and for all the signs and wonders so many signs and wonders that they would terrify the unbelievers right right so is that Muhammad right did Muhammad perform miracles we just cover that we have covered that right I'm I didn't have a single one so Muhammad performed zero miracles so he certainly isn't like Moses in that sense what about knowing the Lord face to face yeah Muhammad know the Lord face to face absolutely not Ayesha said in some traditions that he never spoke to his Lord face to face we know that it's Gabriel that was communicating with him so even according to Muslim sources Allah doesn't come to Muhammad that's right Allah sends a messenger to Muhammad so is Muhammad the prophet like Moses when we look at what that phrase like Moses means in the context of Deuteronomy can't be wrong God right so whoever this is applying to and the apostles of Jesus believed it was applying to him right he's the one who has such a close relationship with the father that he can communicate we in a special way with the father but also Jesus is performing signs and wonders in the presence of Israel so just looking at what that means in the context of the book of Deuteronomy makes absolutely no sense but there's another problem is that the very same passage Deuteronomy 18 the very same passage rules out Muhammad as a prophet according to Deuteronomy 18 Muhammad can't be a prophet at all and here I'm referring to Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 20 so in in Deuteronomy 18:15 we find that that that God's going to send a prophet like Moses repeats it in Deuteronomy 18 18 right and then just two verses later in the same passage right we find this God says the same God who says he's sending a prophet like Moses says but the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in my name which I have not commanded him to speak or which he speaks and the name of other gods that prophet shall die so the same God who says he's sending a prophet like Moses says I'm giving you two criteria here that will allow you to spot a false prophet correct and the two criteria we have here are if he speaks a word presumptuously in my name which I have not commanded him to speak so if he gives a revelation and says this revelation is from God and it's not actually from God that's a false prophet right or which he speaks in the name of other gods so you promote polytheism then you're a false prophet so if you speak in the name of other gods or you deliver a message and say it's from God then it doesn't actually come from God you're a false prophet why is this important because Mohammed did both and I'm not just referring to to the Quran or something like that I mean even according to Muslim sources Muhammad promoted polytheism and he delivered a revelation that didn't come from God and here I'm referring to what are called the Satanic Verses correct according to Muslim sources and I have 37 Muslim sources on the Satanic Verses and you can see how the story changed over time the earliest versions of the story Mohammed is receiving he's receiving verses of the Quran and then Satan steps in tricks him into affirming prayers to Allah a loose and manat so these are the exalted cranes whose intercession is to be hoped for exalted cranes meaning their blackbirds who can carry your prayers to Allah and so what was saying is they're basically intercessors yes you still believe in Allah but there are intercessors between you and Allah the the goddesses a lot a loose and manat so you can now pray to them because they will take your prayers to Allah and so Mohammed delivers this to his followers he bows down in honor of the revelation and his followers bow down with him but here's what's interesting the pagans bow down as well the polytheists of Mecca bow down in honor of the revelation as well because they were overjoyed that Mohammed was now affirming their goddesses so this is according to the earliest versions of the story Muhammad receives this revelation his followers bow down and the the polytheists bow down as well but some time later Gabriel comes to him and says hey those verses that you revealed to your followers saying that they can now pray to Allah to loosen the knot Satan tricked you into doing that Satan gave you those verses so a couple of problems here already one Muhammad couldn't tell the difference between the revelation from God a revelation from Satan in other words Satan could trick and deceive him he supposedly God's greatest prophet according to Muslims but he couldn't tell the difference between a revelation from God and a revelation from Satan that's according to Muslim sources not according to me although I agree so Muhammad receives this revelation and then of course he repents and those verses are wiped out of the Quran and you still have the reference to a lot to lose them or not but the meaning changes by removing the part about them being the exalted cranes and so but what do you have here you have Muhammad delivering a revelation that doesn't come from God and saying it's a revelation from God and you have Muhammad promoting polytheism and saying that you can now pray to these goddesses and what's interesting here is when we read this in the context of Deuteronomy saying that these are the criteria of a false prophet and then we turn to the history of October T which gives us Muhammad reaction once gabriel rebukes him for promoting this message correct Muhammad says this is the history of october t volume 6 page 111 you can look up the history of october dates available in PDF online go to chapter william 6 page 111 where Muhammad says after the story of the Satanic Verses he says I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken this is Mohammed saying he delivered a revelation that didn't come from God what was that revelation about it was about praying to other goddesses according to deuteronomy Muhammad is a false prophet and Muslims claim that they reverence and have respect for Moses Moses would have told people to pick up stones in stone Muhammad to death as a false prophet for delivering these verses but so Muhammad should be overjoyed that he was among polytheists instead of among Mo's instead of around Moses and his followers because they would not have tolerated this sort of thing oops I couldn't I'm sorry I'm a prophet but I can't tell the difference between a revelation from God and a revelation from Satan that's why I firmed polytheism told you all it's ok to to pray to goddess is but you know I changed my mind now the Gabriel came and told me of course I can't tell the difference between a revelation that's coming through Gabriel and one coming from Satan but you know Gabriel tell it's incoherent right they wouldn't have tolerated this so absolutely no notice Islam's best passage the favorite passage of Muslims from the Old Testament the prophet like Moses if you just read the rest of the passage and know anything about Islamic history the passage doesn't affirm Muhammad as a prophet the passage says that Muhammad was a false prophet it would have been executed and during the time of Moses and that's basically selective apologetics and do we ever find anything else when we're dealing with this argument and from Muslims so notice that's the best one the best passage after 14 centuries of examining the Bible the best Old Testament passage Muslims can come up with to show that Muhammad as a prophet was a passage that specifically says Muhammad is a false prophet who would have been executed variously the other art that I find baffling to me in the scripture in the Bible for instance whenever God wants to point to something that was mentioned about a particular event or a person usually that is quoted or referred to one way or another here we don't find even a hint to dharana me 18 15 or Deuteronomy 18 18 in the Koran yes I mentioned that he is in their books so what which books are we talking to the Talmud we talking the Midrash the Mishnah I didn't know the difference between them right exactly yeah he quotes from that from the Talmud and all kinds of sources and doesn't know the difference between them exactly so that's their best from the Old Testament now what about their best verse from the New Testament here of course is the claim that Muhammad is the comforter of John 14 now by the way playing around with passages that are about the Holy Spirit would that be a good idea according to Christianity of course not oh yeah that'd be that'd be pretty bad ladies and gentlemen that would be about as blasphemous as you can get but most Muslims don't know what they're doing here so let's uh let's be patient with them and read the passage so this is John chapter 14 verses 16 to 17 Jesus is about to be taken away so his followers are upset because he's told them he's about to go he's been announcing to them that he's going to die first they don't know what he's talking about then it finally starts setting in what he's what he's actually telling them and he's telling them don't be upset it's not like I'm just gone forever I'm going to send you the comforter and so John chapter 14 here Jesus says I will ask the Father and He will give you another helper or comforter the Greek word is Paraclete I will give you another helper that he may be with you forever that is now notice he identifies the helper as that is the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it does not see him or know him but you know him because he abides with you and will be you this is their best passage to apply to Mohammed now if we even here again if we just read the passage all sorts of things jump out which should tell us instantly this has nothing to do with Mohammed so what Jesus says I will ask the father is God our Father according to Islam God the Quran says allows a father to know what so what what what is Jesus you're doing referring to God is father and he will give you another helper that he may be with you forever Jesus is talking to his apostles here was Muhammad with Jesus followers forever in what sense was Muhammad with Jesus followers forever because I mean that's what Muslims will try to say they'll try and say oh well you know because the you know Jesus delivered the truth about Muhammad and so the truth of Muhammad it doesn't say you know facts about him or it says he will be with you he will be with you right and so Muhammad if this is Muhammad then Muhammad will be with you forever with Jesus apostles who died centuries before Muhammad came along then we have that as the Spirit of Truth so here they'll say Oh Muhammad was the Spirit of Truth no this is just silly start talking about Muhammad as the spirit whom the world cannot receive because it does not see him last time I checked the world did see Muhammad or no him but you know him the Apostles know him because he abides with you Muhammad abides with Jesus followers and will be in you wait a minute Muhammad abides with Jesus first century followers his apostles 1400 years before his coming and is going to be in the Apostles what what is this this makes absolutely no sense to think that this is referring to Muhammad but it gets even better because notice here in verse 16 says he the father will give you another helper right in this same passage as Jesus continues we have John chapter 16 verse 7 Jesus says but I tell you the truth it is to your advantage that I go away for if I do not go away the helper will not come to you but if I go I will send him to you I will send him to you now l-fatiha according to Islam who sent Muhammad Allah sent Muhammad Allah sent Muhammad that's right so Muhammad is sent by Allah correct Allah is the one who sent Muhammad according to Jesus here Jesus says if I go I will send him to you so the helper the comforter is sent by who by Jesus so Jesus sends the comforter that's correct the comforter is sent by Jesus so let me get this straight Muhammad is sent by Allah that's right the comforter is sent by Jesus that's correct now if the comforter is sent by Jesus and Muhammad is sent by Allah then if the comforter is Muhammad who would that make Jesus that God of Muhammad so Jesus according to Islam's most trusted prophecy about Muhammad in the gospel Jesus is the God of Muhammad who sent him absolutely and it backfires yet again and so any Muslim any Muslim who uses this argument we can say you've just identified Jesus as your God thank you for supporting the Christian message things about the deity of Christ now you've committed shirk now you have to abandon Muhammad as a false prophet and reject his Quran in his revelation that's correct and so it what's what's really interesting here if Muslims would just not pick and choose and be so selective and oh here's a part of a verse I can use without actually reading the passage notice Jesus says in in chapter 14 that the father will send him and in chapter 17 Jesus says that that he will send him the father and son together send the comforter that's right who is the Spirit of Truth the Holy Spirit this passage is thoroughly Trinitarian no no you can't understand you can't make sense of this passage apart from a doctrine like the doctrine of the Trinity yes and this is the place where Muslims go to try and pull something out that supports Islam not realizing that if we even took their argument seriously if we even said for a second Muhammad is the comforter well then if Muhammad's the comfort of and he sent by Jesus and the father and therefore that would make Muhammad the holy spirit we have to reject Islam because we still have we still have the Trinity right and that would be that would be false according to the Quran so if we accept the Muslim argument we have to reject Islam and reject Muhammad as a prophet but I mean apart from that I mean look at the book they're going to write the book starts off by affirming the deity of Christ in chapter one it ends with Thomas's confession that Jesus is his Lord and his God Jesus dies on the cross for sins in this book over and over again we have affirmations of Jesus death resurrection and deity in this book which thoroughly contradict the Islamic message about Jesus Muslims go right into the middle of this book rip something completely out of context totally distort the meaning and that's supposedly the proof of Islam well guess what if that's the proof of Islam then Muslims have a have a serious problem here right because that's correct Allah based the truth of his religion on this Allah says you go to that book you're gonna you're gonna find references to Muhammad well we've looked at the best - and not only the best to not show that Mohammed is a prophet if we look at their best - we find Muhammad can't be a prophet Old Testament or New Testament according to the Bible Muhammad was a false prophet and if you know nothing else about Islam if all you know about Islam is that Allah says go to the Bible to learn the truth about his prophet and when we go to the Bible it's one constant affirmation that Muhammad's a false prophet you already know you already know that Islam cannot be the truth and so any Muslim who wants to know the truth about God about Jesus you have to go somewhere else somewhere other than Muhammad and the Quran absolutely and also I kind of laugh when Muslims whenever you pick up verse from the Quran they tell you have to put it in context so let's put the John 14:16 in context in John 14:6 the Lord says I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father except by me there you have the context by the way aren't those titles of Allah exactly yeah absolutely so it's obvious that Muslims acknowledge that Jesus is the way to heaven and I acknowledge that God is called the father at the same time so you cannot pick and choose you cannot just selectively say I like this but I don't like that the Bible is corrupt except for these passages and those can go on and on now ladies and gentleman hopefully you've enjoyed this particular episode obviously this is a deep topic there are so many other passages Muslims typically use from the Bible for now you can go ahead and Google that advise you to go for instance to a number of websites that are very reputable like answering - Islam org our brothers for instance website which is answering Muslims com and there are many other reputable websites that deal with that but Lord willing in the future we will take care of all of those one by one but these two passages that we mentioned to you Neutron Deuteronomy 18 and in John 14 the two top passages used by our Muslim friends so hopefully you find this explanation very helpful to you and don't be surprised if a Muslim that you're dealing with brings up this idea that Muhammad is in the Bible when just earlier told you that the Bible is corrupt don't blame them that's what they're told and with that says I look forward of course to doing more episodes with you brother can you give our audience another basically a topic that we might address in your future well the the next topic we'll be covering it sort of sort of ends the main arguments right there are other Muslim arguments but this sort of closes out the ones you hear constantly and that of course is the the argument from scientific accuracy the claim that the Quran is filled with miraculous scientific insights and that Muhammad made miraculous scientific claims which weren't verified until centuries after his death and therefore he must be a prophet so this will be checking out next thank you so much and thank you to all of you until we meet again have a blessed day

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Length: 27min 4sec (1624 seconds)

Published: Tue Oct 13 2020