Is the Jonsbo VR3 a slightly bigger and better Meshlicious?

i don't know what you're going to say this is a copy of the mesh licious well not quite hey gear seekers i'm nick you guys have been asking us to check out some john's bow cases for a long time especially their peculiar small form factor and itx cases so that's exactly what we're doing here today we've got the brand new johnsbow vr3 it's kind of like a bigger meshlicious so what we're going to do is we're obviously going to pull it all apart we're going to test the thermals and we're going to figure out what makes this new case from john's bow tick spoiler alert it's got a couple cool tricks up its sleeve so let's jump in and take a look [Music] this video is brought to you by msi and the brand new gv60 streaming microphone the gb60 has a maximum sample rate of 24 bit by 96 kilohertz when recording audio the gv60 features real-time monitoring via the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack with zero latency playback the gv60 has dedicated dials to adjust the volume you could also mount the gv60 on a boom arm with a pop filter with ease this new all-in-one microphone from msi has four pickup patterns to capture audio in any situation plus for australian and new zealand viewers score a bonus team gift card for a limited time when you purchase selected msi products using the promotion link down below in the description terms and conditions apply [Music] let's start off with panel removal to get inside the case the first thing we need to do is remove the top panel and all you need to do is quite literally lift it off it is a very heavy and solid top panel then there's a screw on the top right here there are two screws to remove there's one on the left side and another on the right and here's the first magic trick of the vr3 notice this rubber handle on the back right all we need to do is grab it and check that out the whole entire frame slides away from the outside of the case and the rails on the bottom actually kind of act as feet while you're building as well this basically gives you access to every single angle of the case obviously because this is an itx case it supports itx motherboards and possibly dtx boards as well and sometimes with these cases i like to give you guys a bit of an idea of the size of the motherboard in comparison to the rest of the case obviously when we're building and everything else you'll get a better idea of that speaking of compatibility if you're looking to air cool in this case you're looking at about a 70 millimeter maximum height for an air cooler however i've got to say that this case is more focused towards all-in-one liquid cooling which brings me to the next thing for fans and aio support you're looking at either two 120mm fans up the front two 140mm fans a 240mm liquid cooler or a 280mm liquid cooler up the front so it is basically the same as the meschalicious in terms of liquid cooler compatibility however in terms of storage compatibility this is where this case would make a lot of sense if you're wanting to go quite dense so on the front side here with this bracket installed even with a liquid cooler and everything else installed you can fit two 2.5 inch ssds and on the back side you can fit two 3.5 inch spinning rash drives so quite a lot of storage density if that's what you're going with however once again you do need to make sacrifices for certain things allow me to explain if you're wanting to use a large gpu in this case you will need to remove this bracket here now in this default configuration with the drive sled at the bottom removed this gpu the one that we're going to be using in this build actually won't fit if you're wanting to have heaps of clearance for your gpu's outputs you can leave it like this if you have a smaller gpu however we have an option here move it up to a different position you'll need to move the riser support up and now when we try to fit the big gpu in it fits in with little to no issue however once again you will need to be aware of when you plug in the power connectors on this side for the gpu itself which is something that we're going to have to explore a little bit more when we build so we're not out of the clear just yet while we're still on the topic of gpus it does include a pcie gen 4 riser cable as well you can see it's kind of pre-routed and pre-bent in a way that fits this case you could technically just cut that tape off to make it a little bit longer if you wanted to use it in a different case but yeah it's nice and routed for us already this will allow you to fit a full size atx power supply and it also comes with an adapter bracket that allows you to put in an sfx power supply as well for the front panel connectivity we've got a usb type a port a usb type c port and also a power button which is a combined power led as well the connections for those usb ports are a single usb 3.0 connector for your motherboard so there's no dedicated type c front panel connector some itx boards don't actually have a usb type-c header so this is actually kind of a nice thing to see and there's obviously also the connectors for the power switch and the power led as well that's basically everything you need to know about the john's bow vr3 for now let's do a bit of a build in it and then i'll tell you guys what i think of this case after we actually put some hardware in it and we thermally test it let's jump in [Music] my [Music] foreign [Music] all right ladies and gents i hope you enjoyed this build in the john's bow vr3 now what i decided to do was i have a couple other small form factor cases on hand so i decided to do a quick and dirty side-by-side comparison so you can see what the size is like between the vr3 the meshlicious and the nzxt h1 v1 so the first version because i've already put the v2 back so what you're seeing right now in these clips is the case is wider than the meshlicious actually surprised me that the h1 is larger than i thought it was but when we lay the cases down you can get a bit of a different perspective here you can see that the vr3 is quite wide now i filmed this in a way that didn't skew the perspective of the cases at all just so you guys can get a bit of an idea of what these cases look like compared to each other in size right with all that said let's take a little bit of a look at the thermals of the build that we did here what you're seeing on your screen right now are the thermals actually aren't too bad however i gotta say that the mesh outside so like the shell of the case does get a fair bit of heat soak when it heats up it does actually affect the cpu thermal see that's exactly what i think is happening anyway as far as the fan configuration for this case this actually uses the same configuration as the meshlicious where it draws air in from the sides and it exhausts it out the front this is a far more efficient way to cool in a case like this because the whole rest of the case is mesh so it's got a lot of area for intake i've seen comments in the past with our meshlicious content with people saying oh i don't want the hot air to be blown in my face well this is the optimal way to cool in this case now i'm thinking that i may go back and do an air cooled version of this as well to see what the thermals like with the same cpu but for this video and given that i wanted to get this out as quickly as possible i decided not to go ahead and air cool it for this video i think there's a whole nother video in this actually we'll quickly run through some of the parts in this build the cpus the intel core i7 12 700k the motherboard is the gigabyte b660i auris pro ddr4 to cool the 12700k we use the nzxt kraken x63 rgb in white it's a 280 mil cooler i use 16 gigs of aorus ddr4 memory it's their rgb memory at 3600 mega transfers the gpus the asus rog strix rtx 3080 gundam edition the power supply is an 850 watt cooler master sfx power supply with custom-made cables from cable mod and if i missed any other parts i'll put a pc part pick list down below in the description okay let's chat a little bit about the vr3 and how it is to build so the overall build quality of the case is phenomenal it is a very very solid case so in comparison to the meshlicious this is much much better quality than that case in every single aspect at first i was a little skeptical of the whole sliding mechanism to build the pc out of the shell and slide it in but it turns out this actually makes it far easier to build because you literally build it in a frame slide it into the outer shell and you don't have to worry about clearance with the panels going back on you kind of have to worry with that with the mesh lucious so what i think here is the additional size for the shell actually makes it a bit more compelling than the meshlicious given you are increasing the overall size and volume of the case but i think it's kind of worth it to be honest with you in terms of installing the gpu i thought that the power cables for the gpu were going to be a bit of a problem it turns out it's actually a non-issue but keep in mind that i've got custom cables for this and they're kind of designed for these really tight builds so that's probably why obviously you have to plug in the power cables before you put the gpu in otherwise you're never going to be able to plug them in and to be honest the orientation of the gpu is better in this case than the mesh delicious for one reason i don't need to flip the case upside down to plug in the display cables it's right at the top so you just pop this panel off once the system is built or whatever and then you can run the cable through plug it in from the top and drop this panel straight back on the top and you're good to go now i kind of found something interesting with this case as well now i didn't film anything but this is just an observation i made when i was testing the system i use hdmi to plug it into the top of the gpu and i ran the cable through the back here and plugged it into the gpu and what i found is the reason why they made this top panel so heavy is even if the cable bends a little bit which is within the spec of the cable once you put that on it sits flush and pushes the cable in even if you have the gpu at this height in terms of cable management i found that it's better than the meshlicious it's got more tie-down points around the edge of the frame so you can actually use zip ties to zip tie everything to the frame to get much cleaner runs the gap between the motherboard and the chassis itself is considerable enough that i can actually run the eps power cable behind the motherboard which you can't really do in the meshlicious so that's where that extra width of this case comes in handy the extra height helps with the tube runs believe it or not with the aio because you have to run tubes down with this otherwise it just won't fit and speaking of installing the aio what i found is because of the front panel connectors on the case so like the cables coming down from the i o on the top rather you have to load it from the gpu side otherwise it just won't fit so what i had to do you probably saw this in the build section is i put the pump top through the bottom and i loaded everything in through the gpu side to make it fit i think what they did is they looked at the meshlicious and they said how can we improve on some of the things from this case and also make it our own at the same time and i think to be honest that they have done it it is a very well executed case although it is similar to the idea of the mesh licious i would say that because of the way it's built and this whole system of being able to slide it inside the shell makes it a far more compelling case to me although as mentioned a billion times in this video it is larger but i think it's worth it this is my second experience using a johnsburg case and i gotta say that i found that the build quality for both of the cases even though they want other ones john's plus or whatever same company the build quality is really good i think if johnsbury and john's plus was available in a much wider market i think they would give fantex a run for their money i kind of hope that these cases become more available because they have some really cool unique stuff and i reckon that you guys are gonna like this thing too let us know your thoughts down below in the comments i really like this case it's good it's a little bit bigger than the other small form factor stuff that we've covered but it is really cool and really interesting anyways guys if you haven't subscribed yet make sure you hit that button right now turn on that little bell to receive notifications if you like the music you heard here you can click that join button to get it once again thank you so very much for watching i'm your boy nick with gear seekers you peak we seek and it's time for a little bit of cinematic things thanks for watching [Music] [Music] [Music] um all right [Music] you

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Length: 18min 1sec (1081 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 27 2022