Is Project+ Broken?

who Bowser has a fireball now for years Bowser was cursed with a really laggy Bove set he still kind of does in some ways I mean it's Bowser come on but in older updates of project Dem Bowser was seen as a low tier character sure he was given many armor Buffs and Bowser's whole move set now he can easily pass through attacks by charging his SMH attacks to sponge them to try to beat failed approaches and reverse on the situation even despite all these Buffs he was seen as a failure in some people eyes because he was still the lowest tiered character in Project de he still can get comboed because he's obviously very large and he also has another problem he was really terrible at dealing with projectile campaign I mean no duh right either having to deal with this with his new qu armor and if he was in the air he would just have to take it until uh he just had to take okay until project plus they said you know what let's try to make Bower severely underused neutral B attack that was rather weak probably one of his more gimmicky special moves in his entire kit and they decided you know what let's try to buff this move and give it more utility especially with the fact that it always depleted distance-wise just really made no sense to me even in the official Smash games now they made it into a fireball projectile it's about as strong as one of his Aerials and it can be used on the ground or in the air and it really goes a very far distance now I know some of you are saying this has to be really stupid and unbalanced but the move takes 13 seconds to re charge and you can't just use it Willy Dilly if you lose a stock Bowser doesn't have a fireball anymore so it actually is more balanced than you probably think it is it's a move that you can only use once per use see because he's a low tier character he's never actually won a grand finals until they buffed him majorly you see it wasn't common for him to win tournaments whatsoever in fact he actually won a grand finals of one of project Plus's first ever tournaments which was pretty crazy they made his jump squat faster for once which is insane buff because he's always been known for having one of the worst jump squats in the game all the way back in melee and brawl in early PM updates they made it go from an eight frame jump squat to a six-frame jump squat then in Project plus they said you know what let's make it five and they even gave him plenty of startup and end lag changes making Bowser have a little less armor sure but they traded this by making his move set more faster in this game giving him a grab with two frames of less startup for example and these changes made go from a low tier to being a solid character in the B tier which is an insane rise for a character that everyone was initially riding off and obviously in Project plus is very competitive Titan at meta that's pretty good showing that Bowser has gone this far some people say he was underrated in Project dem's early updates they think that the character was always secretly good however I Bowser definitely deserved the Buffs this is what I'll say I thought he was kind of bad back in the day kind of more of a gimmicky character it could have been matchup in experien back in the day and now people realize wow he's actually a lot better but they made Bowser go from a very slow character who got camped out and couldn't really deal with projectiles effectively they made it easier for him to find openings now he can now tank hits he can attack back he actually has the ability to rush in if he's getting projectile camped you know he has a way of dealing with another neutral beam flame breath style attack that got replaced was also Charizard's flamethrower attack now this attack is rather underused it's pretty Niche similar to Bowers and this change has been a little bit more controversial as they see it as Charizard just being given a random attack as a whole flamethrower is a rather gimmicky move you can sometimes EDG guard and kind of do like some weird gimps with it but they change it to an electric attack that has an aerial version and it also has a version on the stage it does have a decent amount of startup in endlag and the grounded version is also a solid combo starting tool while the aerial version is really good at Landing back on stage commonly in Brawl characters who had grounded down specials they were missing an aerial down special attack many characters in Project Plus have brand new down specials or even aerial down specials there was a small majority of characters who had grounded down specials that did nothing in the air it sometimes felt very weird like they were missing something Donkey Kong for example got a brand new version of this move now he has a move that is sort of AIDS his recovery and it also adds a solid mix-up tool when he's in the air being an obvious reference to Donkey Kong Jungle Beat or even Peach getting a brand brand new aerial down special where if she's near the opponent she can grab and throw them similar from Mario 2 Kirby has the exact opposite where their down special in the air is more well known than the grounded version it did absolutely nothing until now if you input the special move Kirby will slide on the ground and it's a very solid combo tool for the character as Kirby can now act out of this move and inut aerial follow-ups I mentioned in the previous project Dem was broken video where during Project M 3.6 some of the most used characters in meta were actually Mr gaming watch and snake mostly Mr gaming watch although snake was pretty dominant during this time period both being in their peaks in Project Dem at the time project plus would actually Nerf both of these characters because people turned off with how easy their combo confirms were snake had a really easy kill confirm that could kill as early as 70% this was a really dumb combo they ended up fixing it in my opinion by making a kill slightly later so you don't get as easy of a followup with it and Game and Watch was also one of the most used characters in The Meta and many people were complaining about their meta usage at the time I mean back in the day Game and Watch was kind of really easy to play he had easy ways of breaking Crouch cancel moves that were really safe on Shield he was actually one of the most used characters in The Meta at the time that's how common he was while snake lost a lot of his representation in Project plus I personally still think the character is actually incredible despite being toned down from the 3.6 version of the character I remember people being very upset about the gameing watch changes especially some people even Switched Off the character because they didn't like the Nerfs to his combo game making it less safe making some of his KO options kill it later percent honing down a lot of his anti- Crouch cancel options and nerfing His Bucket breaking and here we are years later Mr gamat is still a great character in Project Plus's meta actually having a decent amount of usage out of the top 50 he was the third most used character and the Nerfs didn't tone down the character that heavily as I think people thought they were I guess you could say it more normalized him and I think it's looking good for game watch and I still think snake is you know even though I kind of ragged on him I think he actually is still very good it just takes more people I guess playing him a previous top level meta threat in the early versions of Project M having one of the best recoveries in the game could Chain Grab literally anything like it was nothing it had insane KO power probably one of the best projectiles in the game too to this day pit is probably one of project de strongest characters if we're looking all the way back in the early days he was used by even top level melee players in future balance patches pit would get destroyed with Nerfs this character was a previous top level threat in the early versions of Project M they were absolutely broken its early years especially and this was like a very broken version of project them and then one day pits days would come where he flew too close to the sun he used to even be a top level character for melee players pit ditos were more of a regular thing back in the day and well pit would eventually get destroyed by Nerfs the Nerfs were so well known many people who played the character previously ended up dropping them and he went from being a top tier character to all the way to the D tier the Nerfs were pretty drastic Pit's moves were now much weaker and the characters struggled to kill at times many of his hitboxes were really strange and the combo starting tools were much laggier and he became severely outclass by the characters that he used to destroy by the characters who were just much better than him in Project them's final updates they never truly went back and gave pit the Buffs that they probably would have gotten anyways so pit was mostly just stuck to the way he was until project Plus finally came around and brought him back from the grave in a way making him into a viable character in The Meta was he as broken as he was in the past of course not many of the things I mentioned earlier that were broken were actually fixed and his moves hit more consistently they improved The Sweet Spot sizes on like for example his down tilt making it a better combo tool and his moves could actually KO now which is like Yay these things made pit go to a solid tier character who is definitely leagues better than the 3.6 version of the character one of the characters who has had a rise in the past couple years this is a character that probably one of project Plus's most technical characters finally hitting major strides with winning Grand finals of tournaments and being more popular in the meta he's one of the main characters represented in the top 50 more recently and that's Lucas who is one of the second most used characters in Project dem's current meta he's not really a character you can just pick up and just play for 5 minutes he's incredibly deep being completely different from the official version of the character essentially being changed almost entirely no longer being a floatier character and becoming a fast Faller PK freeze was moved to his side special and this is his main spacing tool that replace PK Fire they also gave him a lot more original differences compared to him and NES now his tilts are fast-paced combo tools his neutral beauty is a tool that charges up his smash attacks when fully charged and it makes them stronger kill moves and his smash attacks might be on the slower end but they end up being incredibly rewarded and of course there's his magnet which is a tool that is essentially a shine now that sends directly behind Lucas and he can use this as a Swiss army knife tool that can lead easily into his combo game with his Aerials a common misconception spread in the early days of Project M and the early versions especially was are the melee characters bad that's right the project dump characters have to be so broken that the melee top tiers have to be unviable right right well if we're talking about project n 3.0 sure maybe that argument exists but this was way over 10 years ago and project plus not only is this far from the truth but some of the melee top tiers are actually buffed significantly Captain Falcon is definitely better than the melee version considering he was sprinkled with the brawl recovery Buffs and safer special moves while still maintaining the melee top tier move said that many people love the Ice Climbers are existing in an engine where there's no infinance there's no wobble they still can touch with death characters near the ledge with for example their new Forward Air that can Spike off stage Chik is just as consistent as the melee version now having more options to Tech Chase opponents with like back throw as a new mix-up option Fox is still just as good as the character was in melee what okay he is slightly nerfed in some minor areas sure sure sure but he is still really good I mean he wouldn't be this high for no reason sure they nerfed his Blaster Decay and damage being based on distance shine losing its one frame intangibility and up smash being the pal version from melee and also his recovery options being less safe because they added n lag on them oh my God they killed the character no yet he's still ranked really highly in this game so it just shows how consistent Fox is I mean fox actually does benefit from a lot of brawl Tech that was added to this game like reverse aerial Rush while some other melee top tiers are much lower this can actually be because maybe there's actually more matchups in Project Plus there's actually more floaties and fast Ballers and it's easier to combo certain characters and there's different matchups so on so forth there's a deeper meta in this game and the cast is actually really close viability wise any character can be played at the top level it really just depends on how things are going in the current moment you never know when someone maybe could play puff and push the character higher there is a lot of characters that are similar to The Jigglypuff style of character in Project plus which could be the reason why that the character was so much lower than the melee version as this is mostly just melee puff existing in a different Engine with some slight tweaks here and there but I think a solid representation of any character is possible at project plus that's how competitive The Meta is in the most recent meta there's been a rise of many characters who have been initially counted out Roy was actually a character who I personally had no idea that was going to have a tremendous rise in the most previous year I would have thought that Roy would just be outclassed by Mar and this is because Roy's recovery is seen as more exploitable and he has worse matchups against characters like DK who can combo fast fallers some other characters who have Rose in the more recent years is Ike who I argue is probably one of project Plus's most underrated characters in my opinion because I hate fighting against him uh Ganondorf is a character that many people have been playing in Project Plus's most recent meta which shows that even a character you would consider bad because you know he's slow still has usage in Project plus is meta top tier characters like wolf Wario Sonic Mewtwo metan kns many of these characters are top tier right now for being incredible metanite has probably the fastest Frame data in the game and at times his recovery is really safe wolf has an amazing projectile being his laser if you wave land it immediately you can shoot another laser and this means wolf can essentially have two lasers on screen at once it's that epic yes you should try it Mewtwo is probably project dem's more technical characters there's many interesting aspects like float cancelling Aerials and the high amount of range and Recovery that Mewtwo has this is one of the most aggressive move sets on Sonic that I've seen in the game and I love it and Wario is basically just Jigglypuff with his High aerial drift and KO power he's good and don't get farted on I I guess no for real though although this character is technically at second place right now on Project plus tier list many people actually agree that zss is the best character in the game currently right now to be real zss is a character who has been seen as a high tier in previous versions of project Den but as other characters have gotten nerfed zss has stayed the same and this has led to the character becoming a top level threat almost out of nowhere in a way zss has some of the best aerial drift in the game along with a projectile that stuns the opponent or even a strong combo game her KO power is also very solid her iconic tools being her up special and back air and her up tilt being a combo tool for the character her up special is probably one of the coolest moves that this character has and the way just combos into her other moves and it sends opponents downward I love it and also she probably has one of the best recoveries in the game because of her high amounts of aerial drift and almost every single special move is actually a possible recovery tool except for neutral B obviously the character is actually one of project Plus's most used characters in the current meta in my opinion this is the best character in the game right now as they have a large tournament presence compared to metanite in my opinion now I know some people think metanite there's like a little bit of a beef on who's better metanite or zss I'm on css' side because I think the character is just way Bo popular let me know what you guys think sell me on Project plus metanite being the best I want to hear what you guys have to say genuinely this brand new character that has been introduced in Project plus is Knuckles he has a lot of interesting tools for a character in Smash and he's probably one of the most unique move sets in the game on the ground his speed is actually pretty decent and he has strong tools for up close pressure and very fast combo tools like his fast tilts his decent grab follow-ups his down smash is pretty weak but I like the animation it's dope his up smash is strongest smash attack it's a KO move and his neutral special allows him to go into the ground and then he can pop up a surprise it's knuckles I didn't I didn't ask for Knuckles oh no uh his down special being a spin on Sonic's down special and also his up special being similar to Sonic as well although it goes a shorter distance it doesn't mean this is a bad recovery tool as in fact he can actually combo out of this move really easily and his side special is absolutely one of the best recoveries utilitywise probably in the game he can grab Ledges with he can shimmy up and down on the ledge which no other character can do in the game and he even can act out of side special and then it becomes a very good combo tool for the character like this move just has so many uses and because he can act out of the tool and do aerial follow-ups you truly see how amazing the potential is for Knuckles similar to zss Knuckles probably has one of the best recoveries in the game many of his options would it comes of returning back on stage are really easy for the character and it's led to Knuckles being a solid character in The Meta there is a debate currently on whether Knuckles is a little overcooked I personally don't think he is but I know there's some debates on some people saying his tilts are way too safe although it should be noted that most people enjoy his inclusion in Project plus so the point of the video is Project plus broken it's not in my opinion it truly goes to show how balanced the current meta is we've been through so many stages of project Dem and project plus I remember back in the day when people would complain about how broken older characters were in the 3.0 days we've come to the point where characters have changed so many times it's kind of crazy and it honestly goes to show how far this mod has truly developed to where this game has became today and it truly shows the amount of work that has been put in by the devs thank you guys for watching the video if you guys want to get videos early you want to support the channel in any way there's a patreon Down Below run that up thank you so much hopefully you guys are doing well take care and peace

Channel: HONEST CONTENT

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Keywords: Project, Super, Smash, Bros, Wolf, Ness, Fox, Falco, Captain, Falcon, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Link, Toon, Zelda, Sheik, Wavedash, Mr.Gameandwatch, R.O.B., Snake, Lucas, Dr.Mario, Wario, Yoshi, Pikachu, Squirtle, Marth, Ike, Roy, Ivysaur, Charizard, Mewtwo, Lucario, Lyn, Knuckles, Issac, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Ice Climbers, Toon Link, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Samus, Zero Suit, Pit, Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Olimar, Sonic, Project M, Project Plus, P +, Breakdown, Honest Content, Video, Games, Brawl, Melee, Ultimate

Id: fMAdPRqCTN0

Length: 17min 21sec (1041 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 03 2024