Iris After Hours - Episode 87 - Rose Wenceslao

hi welcome back Cyrus after hours today today we have got an amazing guest Rose Winchester ow yes I got it right yes Rose is an incredible person incredible woman of God who among many other things runs streams training center Asia with which is the John Paul Jackson dream interpretation whole thing also does incredible called art inspirations inspirational gallery which is crazy artistic stuff that's got healing involved with it for kids and adults and families so it's like ah this incredible art program and also does give life what is it authentic life authentic life and authentic business pretty place yeah I'll tell you business which is an amazing and it's hard to explain this one but it's almost like it's a coaching thing coaching but more of really looking at how to get yourself or your business up and running in in an amazing creative and efficient way so where do we start and a podcast like this well let's start with the dreams I ran into rose at a conference a couple weeks ago Sean boulders conference and it was amazing I was telling her dreams and you interpret you know a lot it wasn't crazy over lunch yeah it was nuts what is the deal with dreams I like does God speak through dreams right definitely yeah yeah like me I don't believe in dreams and then con sus supernaturally tell me he does speak in dreams so it started when I was living in Shanghai and I have roommate and then she just from a sweet time come on I say look in my eyes I say roasts you gotta be God let me speak to you in your dreams and I say no way God would not speak to me in my dreams and then I run into this like Hong Kong Christian bookstores and I have this book written by Chinese for Chinese in Chinese and say about dream interpretation that's the Holy Spirit saying read that fight for two hours in the bookstore of course I lose pick the book go back to Shanghai open it read it and then on top of it in the middle it flow a little line and say who do you think you are to tell me how am I gonna talk to you wow so God was saying that nobody talked about it in church you just didn't have a grid for it never yeah you want to read the Bible all that just by path me but now it's like totally different story Wow how many dreams do you think are significant verses when we often say oh that was nothing hanger that was when I ate or that was just like pizza dreams Pizza dreams have you heard of that yeah yeah yeah I call me the angles like this God is in control of everything right we are large and in charge yes he's the guy come on Almighty one right so nothing come into your life is accident whoa nothing at all could be so even though it's a bad dream is a nightmare night Tara all seems like nothing if to me God is very cost-effective he won't do thing like just for that reasons and stuff like that so the right question to ask is like God why are you letting me have this dream or whatever happened your life and that's from that angle you will see a lot more about his perspective so you see it from his from looking down in you then instead of use his height on maybe it's just nothing related at all then you have a different perspective so in shock I personally believe I'm not honestly I am NOT a dream expert like most people think right I'm still learning it's just I happen to have a lot of great mentors is the master level in dream interpretation in my life and help me on this journey and what I think I learn is like it's never most people we're taught like all it's about it is a dream from God off of myself or the enemy again I keep telling my students say hey how about we think a different way why got bringing you this at your night season if it's proven scientific everyone dream every night yeah should I even be we can't remember them exactly so one-third of your life is actually in this dreamland if you're thirty ten years is in this sleeping dreamland if you as 60 20 years in your life and God speak through dreams then 10 to 20 years he speak a lot and a lot of us actually totally have no clue I'm missing out you think it's peace a dream but if you really know it's an accurate spirit few dream interpretation yeah that's totally different ballgame now you don't train you train with John Paul Jackson a tree in his ministry in Canada that's how I start and then I went to Dallas and didn't hit some of his classes and I also have they have a lot of online classes now so how many hours of training can you teach you said before 60 something yeah I always tell people when I gift dream languages like an hour and having some play that's just to have a taster of drew interpretation a demonstration I always tell people if after this you think you really serious about it you can come to our ministry is about 63 solid teaching Oh 63 hours hours of solid teaching solid teaching alone because think about X 2 this is what got cast they allowed me to pair a face yeah it's like at the end of the time his spirit gonna be on all flesh come on I'm not just Christian flesh all flesh everyone yeah everyone Christians and non-christians so one of my friend chuck about this I say nowadays you need to be a Muslim in all to see Jesus face-to-face because on average they have a report come out that's people tell me is on average about a thousand Muslim every night and counted Jesus in their dreams so many stories nobody can get in and Jesus love is so big and say I just can't wait I'm gonna go in myself in the dream land in a dream land when there's no constraint in logic or the physical boundaries oh so that's what's special about the dream mm-hmm no no constraint of your logic yeaji no geographical boundary now and and and work out all the unbeliev that we like in our subconscious unconsciously we don't even know how much we have so that's the first line and then a second what did the scripture say next we say then my son and my daughter no he say your son and your daughter will have visions sorry prophecy yeah being Buddha prophesy so I took off my suit on it's like one minute Christians just accept Jesus and say Jesus left me in a way it's a prophecy sharing his heart right and he turned to the next person I say Jesus love you it's kind of sharing his heart so once you begin as a son and a daughter you can prophesy you know why sharing his heart yes very simple then it's like what does it say and then your young man and young woman see visions you see stuff and then the next thing is like your old man dream dreams now in that means it doesn't mean that you have dreams of God from God is actually say you have the dream interpretation their understanding of all that - right now I am NOT in my 40s but I can't interpret dreams - what does that mean oh oh that's mean that I'm gonna have salt and pepper over here that means I have be able to have dream interpretations no is talk about your character integrity and your maturity in the Lord well that's the key to be understand the mystery that Dan you two talk about well maturity maturity is the key because intimacy come with by Protestant maturity then you can be able to understand what God is saying in dreams and all that mysteries symbolic things terrible things and audience yeah and I want to point out one cool things quickly after all that with the Bible words at the end there's a chef they say my servant it's all your sons and daughters you're young man oh man a woman and then is my serpent through the maturity he take ownership and call you my servant Wow that's the journey well I like that come on so I think it's through another thing think about this how many people of this planet Earth seven billion now yeah seven women that's what what for is it now gosh is starring all the time now let's do the math quickly used to be six billion yeah seven point four billion even pond for billions of people every night dream whoa nobody helping them to get a spirit-filled dream interpretation because it's not enough Christian's taking this too and put it in the cushion two bells just like we have the two barrel have the two I imagine we always have cushion two bells hanging around walking around on this planet earth we can like for me do I can do dreams can do like you can do Bible study you can share your testimony all this is a little bullet and bounce they are twos in your bells Jamie interpretation I fell now line look back it's one of the twos that we miss out a lot and it could be so powerful yes so if it's okay I shared testimony really good about myself and couple of stories yeah how about I start with this I start with someone illustrate a story for you it's a bit hot because I'm a girl so pretend that I'm a man and you my wife how about that okay yeah so we're sleeping it's like 4:00 a.m. in the morning I woke up okay I'm your husband okay okay I say honey get up we're gonna get everything in a car as much as you could and then we're gonna move right now just get everything in the car now we get off and you were say honey what's coming and then you say I always say no honey honey get up now put everything at caught we're gonna drive to Mexico and move them right now now and you say honey like what time is it I say boy I am get up baby we're gonna move now and you say go back to sleep you crazy what's wrong I had a dream we gotta move now Mary get baby Jesus to the donkey we're gonna go to Egypt right now if that doesn't happen things could be very different yes that's example in New Testament political event people just think that old Lister dream is the Old Testament thing it's not a New Testament thing that's a very good illustration about all that another thing from the Bible let's do that and then I tell you about my stories who interpret Joseph's dream that are the Sun and it will bow down to him think think about it who even heard that he Joseph yeah no no the answer is a trick question so don't feel brothers nobody interpret it immediately everyone it goes like this so Joseph wake up put on the beach palek all right come to the breakfast table and say hey I have a dream not Sun and a moon bow tie do you know that thing right yes and then get the brothers so freaking angry right yeah and also what did Jacob say what you think your mom and I got bow down to you nobody really give interpretation they have an ancient Hebrew culture that we lost right now that everyone instantly know what God is speaking in a dream they have no interpretation jump into application and Proclamation right away Oh on the breakfast table they just a culture that you talk about they all knew they on you what do you mean doesn't your interpretation you're gonna be great and I'm gonna bear down to you Joseph wrong did it happened yeah at the very end right so what happened to us why do we don't know about it now look at look at like Danny to open your Bible and look at Daniel to a verse 10 allow me to paraphrase that story to you yeah evil King I'm a bobble right now yeah never kanessa Yeah right he had a dream he cannot sleep he's somewhat every wise man so our term it's like all the witches all the sidekick and everyone in the cart come here they say I'm not gonna tell you my dream but you're gonna tell me my dream and you're gonna tell me that interpretation because I know you guys if I tell you my dream you can just make up things and then trick me again basically that's what he said yeah right and all those like witches and like Chandler and all the sorceress and say king nobody would be able to do it because only God's in the Bible we say knows that now all of those people knew AG people which is in all the psychic those gods how come Christian doesn't know that God's keep dream interpretation at least I was the one answer your question I they're all original how come like I don't know about and don't believe it back down because nobody talked it to me I didn't know and when I read my Bible somehow my eyes were not open and I bypass all those things until God just one day pick me up I would say we're gonna go for a different road now come on yeah so tell you another story now my processor you know before I like quit my full-time job my last full-time job it's a big corporation I work for so they have this orientation and everyone in a company in this big hall 300 of us together so first thing what did we do ice breaking right for the first minute he asked us to pick someone and then just mean the minute out three things cool about yourself and they tell you one just get to know each other by sparking yeah so I grab the lady closest to me and I say so what is interesting about you is that oh I left spa running all the things and then my turn I say oh and I like painting I like diving and I'm learning dream interpretation and she looked at me and say dream interpretation I said yeah true interpretation immediately I saw a bubble and a bubble and above on her head like not literally oh yeah yeah I say oh you have a dream on your dream it's like this and isn't this right you should look comedians you told her what our dream was and I say you can do that too babe everyone can that's good yeah everyone can and then if you put the hot to learn it ya know practice and be activated and then and then she look at me and then I just take a moment I was very young every naive I'm just saying oh your dream is actually mean this ding one minute went by I was like oh god poor visage next Marty went to the office she is one of my boss yeah the story goes like this so in two months she's one of the manager who also championed me to have my next promotion so in a way we believe in the same God that Joseph believed come on so absolutely it happened to Joseph in a way it kind of happened to me so it kind of happened to me you could kind of happen to you - I got my promotion kind of because I gained favor through a dream interpretation that's amazing yeah so that's like all this crazy stuff about dreams out fileting yeah I just can't get over the fact that it's like almost a third of our life we're in this dream line so it's quite significant about this one third you need to know about this - one third of the Bible is also dream visions and prophecies related Wow another one third of our life in Spain at this time you need to understand in a way we always say in our ministries in streams it kind of goes like this way that we are a supernatural God created us as a supernatural everlasting being to be with this almighty limitless like powerful God sorry yeah and we have natural assignment on Marisa yes and natural assault Wow that's a good way to say it yeah that's a really cool way to say it most of us think like what think like that somehow and the gods good mood and mercy that we would have occasionally some supernatural experience we should be naturally supernatural well if God is not supernatural he's not my god exactly right what's the difference he has to be a supernatural power Almighty God right so if I'm her daughter and I'm a child of God why we all are supernaturally in a spiritual DNA rerun the same blood so and Jesus said in the Bible that a lot of things that he does we can do way more yes so just think about it in a way to me when I read that it's like raising that is just none how come we are not raising it that way more we're commanded to yeah yeah are we doing it vague obedient so how many of us in our life like try to just go if our we're gonna feel anything just like okay let's just think in and put our hands and see whatever crop we were like rise up things like that now we could do a lot of we could at least try hey what's not we put ceilings on ourselves as believers you know Almighty God isn't it yeah and we it's like we gotta lift recalibrate our thinking and set our sights higher hmm not on our experience but on God and His Word yeah and the truth of who he is so I always felt like this way and it's kind of my thing now it's like everywhere I go I try to be the person who opened the box oh the Avenue for God not he's everywhere so he does he doesn't need to say hey come on God I understand all that yeah he's everywhere he never leave this is his earth right so I was always imagine that it's just like go like this it's like on a gambling like a poker game with God we give in a little bit and God say I'm gonna show him and see how big my hand is oh yeah it's always like that I'm gonna just show hand you give me a little bit of your favor I'm gonna all in for you I'm all in 2000 years ago with my son for you and died for you and now it's your chance to finish up how our love story kind of goes [Music] interpretation of dreams as in where does the significance of certain things come from or stemming from mm-hmm is it like we hear cars or ministries right yes like that like how does that stuff where does that all stem from in terms of like this is classically what this means yeah classical biblical predetermination yeah yeah I always like it's very good place to go to the biblical side just to look for all the symbols that got talking to dreams and all the elements it's take a big chunk of ours like study is they take about good like 3-4 hours just to talk about the elements but I give you a quick example okay yeah so in a Bible is say wisdom the spirit of wisdom yeah yeah and then I'm gonna give you guys the homework and search out the Bible words where did I say that associated with the color red so do a Bible search because the app in your phone yeah but it's so quick and easy now you just said look at look at it and just you know it the computer reference yeah go do study all those participant yeah just do the study with color and all that thing another good way is to think about like this is how I teach it too so imagine you were not you dream of a cell phone right and you cannot have a cell phone in your Bible how do I interpret that so you draw from the framework of how the ancient Hebrew biblical way oh how we say it to interpret with the with the principle of it most people fall into a loophole which is very dangerous for dream interpretation is to pluck and play for example if you go to the different culture right if you dream of a black door and you walk through a black door for the Western culture is like no good thing mmm right but for the Chinese culture is symbolic profit up prosperity so you have to be relevant as a culture yeah and you have to learn the framework of how to do it so a good way I always say so think about it so is it first reference money is anything associated in the Bible so you have to be very good with the Bible and the second thing you have to be very intimate I always read your Bible Oh in your Bible read your Bible study it to God yes no just read it study make time study it come on there you go that's the word for the day guys except wine and dream interpretation I don't like the foundation yes and then you you think about it and you kind of go through the rolodex oh you can't go in think you are putting that word cellphone on the Google and then what will you come out you say cellphone is a - for communications and you think of it okay communication in a biblical sense what it says let's talk about prayer so then you know most likey you and then also it can talk about all different things - now we didn't use use the phone for different things what could he ask so say and you wait for the notch of the Holy Spirit and pawn to you that element means this because this is another root very important once you think you figure out Holy Spirit he gonna pull your carpet you will never allow you to not to rely on him so yeah beeps part about dream interpretation number one is to understand that it's a conversation that he really really long to start with you he's wooing eutteum dipper conversation as I give you a dream and other thing is you cannot not have this intimacy with him because if you cannot hear God you cannot master the art of hearing god it's very hard to you get an accurate dream interpretation Wow and the other thing is you mentioned before when we were talking was about you have to be in community mm-hmm you want to cheer a little bit about that that's the importance of being in community yeah now go back to Daniel 2 and let's go for the script trial we didn't get back to you think so bringing it back so the evil king where I say I'm gonna just cue you all because you guys make me so mad because you guys asked for time they the sorceress and all this I could say give me more time so we can figure this out and all I think and then he just executes everyone I started a secure and then the knife come to Daniel all right Daniel probably nearing down and the knife is there and he talked to the guy who gave him favor on the chapter one because he doesn't want to eat the evil food and just a vegetable so that's why we had a new fast another thing right yeah so a guy was putting a knife on Daniel and then we say what's the deal why is it like so harsh he's and then explain everything and we say yeah bring me to the king and let me ask for more time so can I can go back and ask God about it now the King just been freaking mad because they asked for time and he have the gut to say let me go in and ask this of King who was really crazy met right now to just have no time right what would you do if you're Daniel and then can't give him time but if you're Daniel what would you do Rose would do this I will find the toilet window and run as fast as I could right what did Daniel do look at the scripture he went back to his house and went to his three friends and then in the vision God tell him the dream and the interpretation so basically Daniel say I'm just gonna chew and relax and sleep and you freak oh fast and I figure it out and pray for me while I'm just gonna sleep I won't be able to sleep at that kind of pressure is a lie Vanessa generation come on now in the Bible in the present term what is this house that's what we can draw some principle how to handle all dream interpretation what is this house even what is the house that he went back to and free of his friend gather together it's his home to place for security ability is a chair safety ah they can't have Church like we have now no they like few Christians real Christians get together and starting to talk about God I'll ask her what should I do and they pray and he went to rest and sleep and get that Ridge Church absolutely so number one don't be a lone ranger and staying community you would never have the whole picture of everything God want to tell you everyone bring a piece and you get that a lot more oh great second thing he got the mystery mystery and then what is he dear if if I am Daniel I got the mystery I say okay let's run to the king and let's have a king and be a hero of the day wow he stopped and pause and say thank you God wake up push your dream and thank God that you got a dream that dream good dream all kind of dreams just thank you that's my thing that's cool rule number two thank you come on yeah that's always yeah and then that's another mace amazing things I just take a little time to point out Daniel went in and just say stop killing all the people if I am Daniel I say you all the evil witches and sidekick you save all of us because we here got now and yes what if we're to go once we have all the other ugly ones what kind of merciful heart but he saved them yes any other one who cute all the people of my people Israel I get them in captivity I'm in slave get me out from my family make me learn all the evil things mm-hmm not given by a toast yeah I don't name and I've been called by ed and all those things that make me it coming into this culture and he'd be able to remain that kind of integrity and purity and love common evil amazing amazing self this dad was crazy good so nothing L know I note what are some good resources for people who want to find out more mmm about dream interpretation means and go to the streams ministry dot-com especially for you guys who know English understand it all the causes and free resources are the resources for sale is all online is it yes streams ministries.com streams ministries.com that's John Paul Jackson's yes ministries and now start with the out of hand got you need that a lot of people come to me I already here got Rose just teach me dreams and then all my student company I'm sorry I was wrong yeah let me go back to the out even got few times I come back to you you have the fundamental to be able to really understand dreams and then the second thing as you go to understand dreams and workshop its online too yeah and then you go for the advanced dreams and visions workshop that through you it's about sixty three hours of solid teaching and get your activation and exercise and I always tell people after that I would love to talk to you about the practical stuff you get the free we in like do the mentor to it okay Haydn's crazy dream last one yeah I just crazy dream I somehow I had Pumbaa you know from The Lion King is the African like pigs I had two of them in my house in your dream yeah in my house I thought I better let him at the back so I I went to the back door to let him out of the house it wasn't I don't know it felt like I am and it didn't felt it feel a bit funny but they were just there these pigs and their Doolittle tusks and so I let him out and then all of a sudden my backyard was fully flooded but it was sewage and I didn't mean you know the sewage had broken and then oh my gosh and then I realized that it was all of my suburbs called Glendale and all of the sewage you know all of Glendale a broken in the whole of Glendale was flooded in sewage like feet deep and I was standing on my back landing young oh my gosh it wasn't in the house I wasn't up that high but it was everywhere Oh guys oh my gosh pray the pink jump straight in and we're like oh man I love these look at him go they were like happy it's pigs in mud pigs in see each other no so I don't know whether that was significant and then I'm trying to call my son Ezra I can't son's called Israel my eldest son and he wasn't with us and I look at this look at this it's like Siri jabber the whole backyard father Israel and he wasn't coming I'm calling calling and then by the time he came it is all gone it all was receded and it was all just like you know mud and a little bit of slush but it had gone down in that quicker time I know it oh you missed it it was all flooded out here and then I don't think I can remember anymore like embarrassing am I like pretty cool dreamer I think well I said audience is go anyway yes my thing but even this is always what I do with like anyone come to me about dream interpretations do you want me to give you a fish or do you want me to kind of slide show you how to fish oh yeah okay I woke you for a little bit so you get rid of experience okay so if you're gonna upload this on youtube as a little clip from like a movie clip thing what would you tie to it oh yeah Wow sensational cirrage what series flood sewage flood is a good one series flood that's good okay African Peaks finally fun if I had find a place to call home in Glendale okay when did you have the dream it was last week I'm pretty sure better week ago yeah well we could go yeah cool and let me make sure I got the dream right that was too wild Paik in your house and then you get them to the backyard once he gets in the backyard the sewers just broke off all yucky things come up and you say Ezra my son come look at this by this time your son come look at it it's all gone just a little bit left yeah that was pretty much all going yeah so that's the dream yeah Wow now we gotta talk about it's gonna be focus off the dream okay yeah we're gonna always identify the focus on SL focus once you get those two animals you kind of get a structure of the backbone of the dream and you cannot get an interpretation or understanding of the dream the rest of it colorful things gonna be video I'm making much more sense mm-hmm but we want to work on that's the main line first because most people they get distracted and then they get the details too much and then they just lost the whole dream yes right so the focus of the dream what do you think is a focus of the dream okay the focus of the dream was who's doing the action who's seeing all those things me yes it's about you yeah so the dream is about you and your friend your bride and there's the focus the focus was so focus now focus is you so focus so focus self-focus south focus SUV also focus focus as you get some focus sub4sub focus he's was getting these pigs out of my house pink make a simple cake Wow cake yeah mm-hmm cirrage mm-hmm wanting my son to see it it's row Israel yes just use something to simply X is Rob yeah oh yeah so it might represent and then it disappearing but then it was all the other stuff focus was it was not just my house it was the whole city yeah there was a problem with the whole city yeah all right so then it just be quickly yeah but before I could get Israel to see it yeah okay very good now let's work from one to one kind of the main thing is about a pig what did the Bible say about a pig oh yeah uncleaned mm-hmm and they are wild yes did you I to get to your house and you get them out yes and then they love disourage uh-huh they were at home it was that problem from your having your home and our the region too and who did you call to see this Israel is it really your son or could be symbolic Oh calling God Wow what does biblical meaning of is Rami these are our prints of God I usually I have an app on my phone that help people were things like that yeah right mm-hmm see the prints of God so you kind of know what you're talking about yeah Wow dream is a starting point for carving you in too much deepest things for your case it's about your region yeah on this trim yeah you can have the power to stop this to unclean spirit affecting it Wow that's why God gave you this dream and your involvement crazy yeah yeah just what about you Christy any dreams Cherubini even boring like boring ones go down they yeah yeah anything like that that's for sure uh I think last night there was maybe there was one where I was with my mother-in-law or someone like a mother-in-law not really sure I live with my mother-in-law right now but I it was her or it was like that kind of mother-in-law did you see her in the trim yeah it was very it's all very fuzzy like it was kind of like yeah exactly sure but it felt like a mother-in-law I've been her and then we found a friendship this is something you would do we really finding a bunch of like kids cars on the side of the road like you know those kids cars like the toys became kind of tow like welcoming when they get in their little plastic car oh yeah they're driving stuff like that but then we found one that was like a car but it was a bed like a crib car and then it was like run down and we were like oh that's gross like the cover on the mattress was gross and then she pulled off the cover and it was like a really cool wool like like an actual cool cushion underneath the yucky cover and she was like oh there's something here cool that's it oh okay wow that's interesting do you do you would you show maudlin last name that really badly hmm so let me make sure I get the dream right so you your body alone baffling and you kind of on this side way and seeing all this pasta toy cars bunch of it lots of it right yeah not real cost yeah and then if you find one that have a bad a kind of creep and then there's kind of yucky and then you she'd take off the first cover thing and they say so we su can use it very comfortably nice yeah that was a dream how would you tie it away if you upload this clip on YouTube that's a great question she I'm gonna do that no more dreams carbed unlikely discovery that's a good time actually yeah that in the rough haha with those and then focus of the dream um me or Beverly guys are you doing most of the action now think about it you take out that elements the whole dream kind of fall apart were you doing action or are you just seeing it I think she was doing more of action your involve are is very little yeah yeah yeah so it could be definitely yeah right okay and then we were both there but she was the one like undoing it and making the comment yeah you basically observing mm-hm do you feel like you in a dream are you just seeing it like a bird eye view or distant or you cannot be involved to ask I mean I was there yeah yeah great and then what is the other thing about it the main thing about it kids kids cars the kids there are just the cars the cars so it's their toy car right past it coughs mm-hmm okay and that was it basically two elements to work with yes right well thank you were there so think about this how how would those car and plastic cars why is it passed a car why it's not real car why it's not ancient Oh God why snot why my god used to pass the car think that kids expect kids it's not really as toy chili play play mm-hmm and where are you at you're in Los Angeles what is Beverly Hills God is talking about your destiny I think I could be wrong but I think God is using that it's kind of get your attention and say that there's a lot of things happening and you have a pot to do about it you may not be the key person but you might be definitely call to prayer product whoa I don't know you're I just met you so fun come on now what's interesting what's the difference do you interpret visions the same as dreams are as visions because people have visions like full-on like Rick Joyner in the final quest and my wife's been taking on many visions with God do you interpret that the same way as a dream or is there different rules yes you interpret so basically let's design yeah I go back let me let me let me make some definitions so it's much more clear vision it's not something that you see when you wake up most people think dreams is something you get when you sleep not true when you look at the Bible which we teach you that so you can't have visions at night too when you were sleeping in all that kind of thing and you have like daydreams you're fully awakened all absolutely dreams yes so there's more than a third dreams yeah so actually the difference is visions is more literal much more literal and dreams is very symbolic okay yeah so the vision is very much telling yeah so but super say sometimes even visions I still don't get it and like things like that so there is like there's no dream and dream inner visions and all that kind of things so you pick out the element and interpret at the same way right yeah mm-hmm so yes and I did want to ask quickly too have you ever done like New Age festivals or anything were like dream interpretation booths because I've been involved with my church back in Australia we once yeah did and a whole new age festival and we had a booth with dream interpretation spiritual reading it was disguisey there was basically yeah do you do that sort of stuff or not streams do a lot of those things yeah so we always get people together yeah I personally was not involved because I'm in focus I'm gonna teaching a raising the Chinese speaking and Asian speaking teachers to teach this out this area so good no is it because they need it and they we're much more behind yeah but streams is very good at it so we have like spiritual spa we go in to have a booth to spa and they have menus so like of course it's like dream interpretations life reading which is prophecy our spiritual reading you know yeah just read the spiritual part of you who can you hear from God like yeah and then well we do head massage too sometimes people do that so you've been having a captive audience rubbing all the love of Jesus on the hand for like good ten minutes they just have to hear what you gotta say about yeah and then they have prophetic arts and all subtle things and we do all that I don't know cool one if you have a different time yeah so well what I'm sorry is like this when I was in training in Canada like they went to a above and half dream interpretation and this coffee girls you know coffee cause it's like all white and black black whip steaks but everything goes I am thick yeah so she came in about 16 years old I forgot to add to you as you're saying you guys need to put your suffering and their food is that yeah yeah I just kind of go like this so choosing this she said is happen all the time since I was young I had the orbit reoccurring dream Wow Kareem dreams exclamation mark of God is they pay attention you're not getting it yet that's the Wow attention oh this big forest I was in there and I was this stone and there was this cross not cross like a song you know I saw she keep like doing that and it was a light show no no and I'm a dream inviting me to call him go in and pick up the song what does that mean and we were saying that God has been talking to you from this dream that you gonna step on this foundation we cannot use that Jesus the rock of salvation right and pick up this the song cross saw it's the word of the Lord you are born to be able to pick that up and use it that's what it but we can't say it so we say you don't be very gifted with your word and cause trying to tell you that ingress around you leaders to help you on that that's what a jury was calling her to do and then just when we say like God is tall to me in my in my dream that's what she said black my tears come down because it's been haunting people for so long and no Christians been waiting for a Christian to ignite that dynamite that the holds to be put in when she was sleeping for all this year so she know God talked to her so she's just like crying and then I'd be in she accepted the Lord we take it out back in a 10 and every minister Thaksin I give her time and all that thing so like that's the stories I love when I was with the streams and training and all that like all this is really dear to my heart and say like I see seven points or billions every night of opportunities that got showering all this love and messages about his kids Christian non-christian doesn't matter his creation it is people about who you are your destiny all that what you gonna do and how to avoid dangerous and all that things and just keep telling you and nobody going there to interpret it and who would people go to sell even Christian go to psychics because they don't know and this dream is so vivid and will in them and they just want to know and that knowing that vacuum create inside them and no one help them fulfill that so I personally think everyone should learn a little bit dream interpretations real deal to put in your like cushion to bow like I silly enough in orientation of my company you can do in your pantry in at work or lunchtime anytime in a gas station yeah you just may have something and just you never know yeah but you got to be prepare and restore that - I always another very important thing you want you may want to know now imagine that all your life time your parents is training up how to do do with dreams that help you in this arena in the prophetic and spiritual and other things every morning you wake up since you a baby be able to talk the first thing you come to the breakfast table you say honey did you have any dream they got talk to you and you share it and they write it down day in and day out they write it down as your personal Bible from the Lord because it's the breath of God on it and by eighteen you a doubt you got your own personal Bible not just a very good book that everyone has but your own Bible that God speak to you Navin you need to do it for your children yeah you need to restore the ancient culture back into your family everyone does wow thanks get married like on the wedding date dolly this is the gift that I've been waiting to give you this is the Bible that I besought for you since your baby every morning I just take two minutes and write it down for you yeah Wow Destiny's driven yeah get me into that habits you just talk about dreams don't think it's because the Thai food you eat last night yes yeah pizza yeah seriously learning about it hear from God Oh another thing too nowadays like so many kids come with night terror and like nightmares so what would you do allow me to just say this way nightmare on night terror is actually a training ground from God if God wanted to stop it he can do it right away and I won't he started you know kids yeah because they call for big destiny be a great fighter in the spiritual realm you want don't train them young if God doesn't train them yeah they won't get it they won't get it they would just die when they wake most of people when I work with them in a doubt when they come to me and say I don't remember my dream anymore I don't think I dream for us I don't have dreams I say unless you have a brain surgery or something you got a dream this how got why you to reset you every day if not you turned cuckoo that's how you use thought you overload yes you got a dream visit but I really don't dream rose and I say did you have nightmare when you were young and most of that we say yes I did I say did anyone help you know so I say allow me to have a wild cast maybe when you were very young and you're frightened you kind of say I don't want to dream anymore once you start that is an inner vow God would not violate that because he gave you free will until someone come in and break it free in eval gosh I'm gonna dream and then it because it's been scary yes other than that was a training ground from God dude yeah to help you work through it and overcome it and be in it so I've been like telling telling parents I say train them train yourself up to help your kids to be powerful in the dream land so they have a very fool this is another whole podcast like when they would be perfectly remember it just imagine this our next generation it's not powerful in the natural but in the dream land yeah and the supernatural they've been trained since young that any demons and things come to their way they can just naturally fight it off because they're going practice like dad like David in a young time I've used it refused and a beer and they're practicing the dreamland David in their own dream life yeah but why are we feeding them with leaving them with all the cartoons and all those things and like not empowering them all the Harry Potter and telling them that the other side counterfeit is much more stronger and we're not training them in here and guess what we get next generation where we're not gonna stop doing something now like now that's great cuss me we always like before now I mean I don't testimony that I heard not lie but one of the pasta actually is the founder of streams ministry to success after John Paul was say John Thomas he shared this with us they say one officer it goes like this if I remember right the parents were very like worried because this was this Evos thing keep coming to the sons dream and telling them is just gonna kill you and kill her whole family very common nightmares and things like that happen to kids parents don't know I was not empowered by the church to like teaching what I'm going to do with that but it's really scary to get and bring it to the pasta possibly say wow you know kid when you dream in the dream lamp that's no limit you can imagine and anything could happen so what did the kid do were you empower it and then the keiko back to sleep right and you next next time we talk to the kid and they keep us say what did you do in your dream he say I asked for a gun and a gun him down four years old they don't have lingo and say this is authority and the power that God has seen a power there is like no no gun no I don't want you to be violent but this is exactly that lingo they have their spirit already know the gun is authority Jesus they have it and they're gonna cue it with it so he asked the question so if the evil thing come back what will you do I'm gonna just cue it again I know you get a kid that knows they empowered yeah it's very important if not you just you gotta cut them short yeah you wonder why we have a generation he's scared yeah and they're always worried about dreaming exactly oh gosh right very important just I always have his things I think I dream of our next generation think about this with me for a minute this is a start of the planet Earth when God like have everyone design and think of everyone we're already there right mm-hmm now this is the time that we come to the planet Earth yeah okay and this time is this time we become a Christian yeah right and then this is the eternal everlasting time you're gonna be with the Lord right as this spiritual being you know see it won't die so from all that time the enemy's gonna work as hot as this could because he knows someone in this generation possible there's still race I would say God I'm give it all to you hmm right but they're gonna work hard before all that in generations to that pawn so they won't get he'll and they won't be like relational healthy all that problem be pure and then so even they become a Christian they be crippled yes right that's one of the way they hate the enemy us yeah so now think about it if we get someone in this time started to train them up to stay pure with the Lord thank you Jesus and no no Scott word is not relational yeah this function sexually pure - come on Jesus and creative and prophetic and be able to do all the things you got a generation that is so bright that's no way there's no place for the enemy you just need a couple of those people which I believe is in Los Angeles come a lot of them yeah that's creative prophetic lack of training does not have enough help but they're long and destined to be pure know the word inside out of the war experience all that be empowered trained up you just need couple of them in different like people group or different churches organization there's no place for Darkness they are changing a well influence they are pure and bright the great worship at they lead people they like impart and imagine and create people into a level that we would never see before if we started here whoa I'm getting visions of it now so good so bright so bright those people and have to start from we have redeemed who is now and we're gonna start with our own children so they become that yes absolutely still bright wow that's really my heart to be able to do things about it help people to restart off God and be the destiny that God has ordained them to be walking fully commercial yeah and I would be like letting enemy like taking our people and our destiny or detour and crippling crippling too long long wait too long and and think about it if if the enemy had been watching us for all this time the waiting and doing all that what what will you do if there are your all the opposite false you got to fully make sure all this creative people be as broken as possible exactly and you make sure they will not be able yes so even it comes to cursory become a Christian you will you be crippled yeah but if we restore them relational sexually purity know the word be still creative use all the gifts that into the Funes whoa yeah come on rise thank you so much I think we're out of time yeah but thank you yeah private or coaching business coach so for those of you who want to hear more they can find out more at the streams website yeah [Music] thank you for sharing the importance of it we're both parents yeah do that that culture yeah it's so good right thank you do you want to bless us all just with a quick prayer yeah and I'm gonna finish out yes Father we are all make for time like this Papa will love us and then help us to just take off that that boundary that lead that we've been confining you yeah so you show him yeah he's not just show off but you show him through all of us yeah help us to just this is always my prayer for myself and I'm gonna pray it for you guys is this so challenging that's why we need to pray about this which has God help us to love you in a way that we will make you blush yeah that you'd be surprised by our love which is so hard but we won that that's kind of the love that I want everyone to have hearing this podcast that they will be able to come to you in such intimacy that you who blushed Jesus will blush topic of blush and Holy Spirit will blush because of the the kind of deep longing of love that we want you let us have that love for you Lord in the daytime in our natural and a night time in our dreamland that we're gonna love you in a way that people will say beyond crazy come on yeah when you sold out for you because you did that on the cross for us and is this how turn to how we got to respond and just love story with you whoa that we kind of love you and others so well yeah our life is not just about German operations our life is about that intimacy and that power and that destiny you have been ordained it in us since you have us in your mind yes so good I bless everyone in here to the max come on on the destiny walk in Jesus name I pray amen amen thank you so much you can subscribe to our podcast on iTunes or wherever kit you get your podcast Oh YouTube channel and YouTube channels will download the app on your phone yeah yeah that iris global app and you can listen to these podcasts and all our other updates but we love you guys and we will see you again very very soon ciao this podcast is presented by Iris global for more information or to support the work of iris global please visit us online at iris global dot org you can also text to give simply text the amount you'd like to donate to five three zero three three eight three eight three seven or to speak to someone at iris global call our office at five three zero two five five two zero 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Length: 62min 11sec (3731 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 19 2018