Iris After Hours - Episode 41 - Gershom Sikaala & Charles Lambalika

welcome to iris after hours casual conversations with inspirational speakers off the clock hello welcome back to iris after hours so good to have you guys back look who we've got here gershwin sakala is back with us and he's brought charles lam balika did i get it right charles yes did well come on these guys are amazing these guys were friends as kids in zambia now charles is african australian yeah is that would that be right to say that how long have you lived in australia ah i think 14 years 14 years aussie asthma you guys met you were 14 and you were 17. i was probably a few years older okay okay that's awesome in zambia this is crazy just having you you here together and both of you are like amazing men of god like god has radically impacted your lives we heard gershwin's story last time charles how where did this start where did the encounter with god start do you grow up as a christian knowing god or was there a time that god crashed into your life um well i came from the catholic family and then just like many african kids similar to geshem for high school eighth grade i went to a boarding school i'm boarding school was a public boarding school it wasn't a mission boarding school so pretty much i didn't do much religion things just went to do with what every other kids uh was doing and then uh in the 10th grade that's when i gave my heart to the lord wow what happened did was there a speaker or was it just sovereign did god just give you a dream or uh what happened was um in zambia the education system is very competitive right so it's more like a pyramid structure so like for example when i was in the ninth grade there was 250 year 9s but there is only 100 year 10. so that means 150 kids don't make it don't make it they're out of there they just never graduate well to just they graduate grade 9. wow so that means to go to the next grade she gotta study very hard so in the ninth grade that's when pretty much kids memorize the whole textbook so okay yeah he did same for you was it so so that means you stay up all night just to study so on holidays i went back home i lived where i lived [Music] and um the restrooms were outside not like here where the restroom is next door the out there the outhouse yeah is it american outhouse uh you know that too outhouse yeah yeah it's a uh accident uh call of duty a wine outside um some in the night uh and then there was this big flash like somebody's taking a photo with a flash on yeah but it was just so huge that it limited the whole area that you could see uh quite a fair way and uh that just affected my eyes so it was more like very blinding so and uh from then on i developed problem with my eyesight so being in the ninth grade i could not really study the most i could do is 30 15 20 minutes and my eyes would start tearing and have to stop or develop headaches so i knew i was in serious trouble if i'm gonna go to the 10th grade so i did what most people do when you're in trouble you go for good yes come on so i said good help and just to be sure that he's gonna help you throw in one of those little liners if you help or do anything for you yes so sure he will help you yes so that was uh the little thing so i asked to help and then uh amazingly of all my friends i was the only one that was returned to the school for year 10 so on half an hour or less of study wow so you didn't study more you just were able to retain all of it in a shorter time yeah and uh awesome did very well and uh so when i came back the first uh term or so minister of your ten um god came to collect [Laughter] come on guys did that look like no i was just sitting doing my own things and you just hear this voice says charles remember you said if i help you you do anything for me and i knew i needed to give my heart to the lord but i didn't know how to do that and then i remembered we used to have this teacher he was very faithful guy well we always run away from him he would come in a class he used to teach english so if he has a he has a double lesson of english or history what he taught he'll spend probably one and half of that preaching and then the other little bit he'll do the lesson so kids did like him so when we saw him would run away from him but i remember this this this man was in school so this particular night i went out looking for him and he was very consistent i i found him and he was preaching and i just sat down and he talked for i felt like an eternity stop already i want to do the thing but he finally got to the place where he says put your hand up but put my hand up and uh let's stay when i gave my heart to the lord i think that was about october 1993 so that was just an incredible moment but i was still a little bit confused and coming from the catholic background yeah where we are the only christians none else's so i was a little bit confused about where to go so i never went to church so what i did is just stayed home in the dome and just started the bible started the bible comparing every doctrine not to man so you had a bible that was amazing yeah yeah i think he gave it what he gave me a bible okay so i just read through and then i after a little while i think it was about two weeks i ran into the same uh teacher and says how are you going are you going to church no i don't believe in church but i liking jesus so and then he said at the church he went to i found out later that he was a deacon i had a pentecostal assemblies of god church so uh so he says the church i'm going to the youths are having an overnight prayer meeting okay she will know that well over in our prayer meeting that's where you go to church and actually pray like the whole night i still do that wrong once a while wow wow it's not coffee breaks all that like just yeah just girl it's an overnight prayer meeting you pray all night so you were having one of those ones which i really didn't want to go to an overnight because never heard of one didn't know what it was but the idea of spending a night out of boarding school sounded good to me anything to get me out of school so yeah i got out and uh coming from their religious background i was coming when kids are boys and girls by themselves no parents overnight i was thinking they'll be certain things but when i found these kids they were just completely sold after the lord wow and there wasn't any nonsense it was just worshiping and worshiping i'm like man if christianity is like that i went in wow and then i think about three a.m one of the kids says anybody wants to receive the holy spirit i figured i don't think i've done that holy spirit deal yet so yeah i went up and put your hand up i just put my head up and it was like i plugged my finger into a power socket whoa [Music] just like shook and screamed in another language and from then on never been the same never be the same wow that was the baptism of the holy spirit yeah wow jesus and were you in ministry after that all the way until now right away well after that within two weeks uh i taken on leadership of the scripture union club and we had scripture union in australia too yeah i just used to do i used to do smack camps which is scripture music arts and drama and dance double d smad so yeah yeah dance and drama so it's all the arts but with scripture union they do lots of stuff in australia and obviously in africa yeah but yeah they're awesome organization yeah it's uh yeah two coin lead actually was creature union and then i was asked to share the word and pray for the school in assembly we had about one thousand boys this was all boys no so so at 1 000 boys were you nervous no i remember the first time i went up we had the teachers the headmasters and 1 000 boys um i took the stage the holy spirit just took over i don't even remember what i said really and he was just and um not long um people because the way they built the boarding school you don't they didn't build the boarding school in the city is like way out of the city so kids don't escape from school and player yeah yeah so the isolation theory yeah so it was isolated and i don't know how some people found out that there is this kid in school so i started getting invites to preach in uh village churches uh i i remember this particular why are you still at school yeah that is so cool so i remember the first time i went there was this uh awesome guy he was a baptist american missionary between a stretch of 200 kilometers i don't know what that is in mars he had planted about 200 churches so his idea how he pastored he would visit a different church every sunday so if he's been to your church this sunday you gotta wait 200 sundays before he comes around so that means there wasn't a a a level of discipleship so and people would go back to uh animist spiritual things which they used to do so and i was asked just to follow through what he was doing and so i remember the first uh church i went to was in a village and um we came across this lady well she was giving a story that whenever she is pregnant or she has a child these ancestral spirits they come to her and they ask her to perform certain traditional rituals but because she believes in god every time they have come she's refused and they have killed the baby so she had lost four kids and uh the day i got to the village um she had already a little boy and that night the ancestral spirits came to her in the dream and they were demanding saying if you don't do the ritual we're gonna kill your kid or kill you so she was pretty much desperate and so she's saying i've been to different churches and pentecostal churches they have prayed for me and the demons refused to leave and if you would like to pray for me maybe we can start 6am tomorrow and hopefully by 6 pm the demons will be gone oh just a little kid who's run away from school has missed rocco preaching the gospel so the following there was a sunday and we go to this little church and then you get the introduction okay that's our village which and that's our village we lived and that's our village which doctor and that's our village head man we're all here preach wow everyone's here out of school um [Music] so i just well you gotta start with jesus started i look for the spirit of the lord is upon me and the spirit of the lord just hid down was she delivered that day the witches the wizards the witch doctor the lady everybody was just instantly set free and they gave their hearts to the lord and the lady and the baby leaves wow so that was a first power encounter and i think from then on that's where my ministry to reach out to the villages and to the people that uh in isolation was really born because what was more heartbreaking is like seeing the power of god come down and bring instant healing it was just that easy but if it is that easy how come not many people are willing to go to the villages so if you're coming from where coming from in africa people invest a lot of money in education bible school so if people have been to bible school they want to have a church in the city where they get paid in money not in corn so that's why you never find that there aren't that much many spirit filled bible believing preachers in the villages because they all want to be where they can get a wedge so and that's when i started going to the villages and never stopped so you started traveling all over sandy village to village wow did you finish school or did you drop out of school i finished school in year 12 i wasn't allowed to go to university or bible college the lord sent me back to villages that would be about when i was meeting gesham so i would have been about 19 and um so like you said by the time i was 23 had planted and pastored about five churches wow annoying the villages it's incredible are the villages very different now than they were back then no villages except in most villages they have no electricity no food but they've got the dstv on their mobile phone tv isn't that funny are there many more churches now than there were uh there are a lot of churches uh personally at the moment i'm overseeing over 200. wow that's amazing so how often do you go back uh we try to go back uh twice once ea and uh at the moment every year we take a team with us from australia come on from australia come on yes i was at i was at charles's church and nicole nicole your wife yeah in 2014 when we launched um the film the film um we showed it at your church it was a powerful night ruth ruth led worship in the ministry time afterwards you know sarah's sister yeah it was amazing that's cool it's great and then i got a parking ticket i'm in a parking ticket a um speeding ticket on the way home because australia is so full on with their speeding deaths yeah i was doing like six kilometers over or something maybe it was eight kilometers and what is that males five everyone's like oh no so how did you two get connected yeah so what's the story so you went to boarding school because we heard your testimony so it's crazy these similar testimonies that god called you guys out and you were fairly close what was the proximity where you were living uh like 500 meters in miles wow yeah yeah yeah so after high school i came back to my locker church i started helping with the youth ministry and that's when geshem was coming to that church was part of that youth ministry because what happened for me i was not recognizing the church i preached in high schools yes um and in the church i was quiet i was just interceding i was known as an intercessor of course people could experience the miracles the power of god for example when i'm around people they failed out under the anointing like that but most of the time i went into nearby village i would knock on people's doors and lead them to jesus and cast our devils i was all by myself i know the bible says two by two but i didn't have another partner for that so but that could all change today yeah sorry i'm joking advertising for that's what if that's heaven that's heaven calling you know yeah you know evan always calls uh you know it's it's very amazing that i haven't had childs because we have a lot to catch up i haven't had that story of childs how from the boarding school because you know uh when we started doing stuff together like in 1998 1998 he had already had an experience and i had also an experience but mine was more eating it was more in high schools it was more on in the church i didn't have any in a position in the church i was in the decon i was in i wasn't even an asha until at the end that's when they wanted to put me as a youth leader but i was already too advanced i was already speaking in different churches and um you know it's just amazing how god raised childs but but the first time i saw charles i recognized the spirit of the lord it's what drew me closer to to him and uh and actually i went after him i went to talk to him a little bit and then he knew that we were just neighbors actually and then we started meeting memory we were meeting to prayer we were praying together spend a lot of time to pray that's what we did most of the time is to pray it's uh it's it's amazing like most people today they seek position in the church they seek if they are not deacons or if they are not song leaders they become frustrated but for me i didn't wait to i didn't even know that i needed a position in the church honestly all i knew is to lead somebody to jesus and i believe it's the same thing with charles i followed him in one of the first village trip where he uh one of the man that we are both good friends who just went to be with the lord uh uh listen tree and and actually it's one of the reason he came so he can comfort me i can comfort him because one of the person that we really knew very well he just he went to be with the lord and and that same man told me he said do you want to go to to this village charles is there i say yeah i know charles i'm going to join him so charles was actually in charge of us in a way uh you know we could just see that he was a leader you know we we just followed what he was doing we preached we cast our devils those are the places where oh my god we saw people have snakes guarding their homes these are not these are guarding their homes yes snakes this is a dog if you're going to get mamba yeah like a brag mama it's getting it's it's you know they they are there poisonous pies on us but but you know you could you can only overcome them spiritually by praying yeah you know when you pray then they disappear it's a weird thing you know that was the first time to experience things like that even if uh you know from zambia we're all from zambia but to be in that village it was another level yes and and actually it opened up often it opened up for me for the spiritual warfare i didn't understand how real these things are so it was it was in that time that we we started going to that miami that's all the area you may not know what it is but it's a particular village in zambia it's not on the map in case you're not you need a better map it is wood when you see it on podcast looks like it's a paper i love it this is this everything is real here people what you hear this is a real man of god we are so real yeah so it was it was really very uh life changing and you know what is amazing about some of you people may lose their loved ones the same man that died actually appeared to me two days ago wow i was yesterday i freaked out sorry for using that word it's because i was sleeping and the man just appears in my dream and he tells me hey i'm callings i am very happy here i'm fine here it was i mean the man is older is on the 55 or 16. yeah he was but he was looking like he was 20 years old very handsome good looking says hey i'm very safe here go and tell my friends and family that i'm safe so i told child childs about it and i really freaked out i thought i'm i died myself i felt like i i died myself with this person who went to be with the lord appeared to me you know you know people understand i'm not a weird person and things like that but this is so real we say that i come to i just came to tell you that i'm doing fine because i had my new dream in my dream wow because i had questions right lord how is it that this man sacrifice for me uh you know it's the same man i lived with when i was called when when our the first time i i flew by the jet you remember the story i don't know if i shared about being picked up by private jet no no i didn't i didn't share that i was in barra high school at boarding school actually um i didn't have the finances to go back home i think they didn't know how to send it to me my family they delayed so then somebody um uh he he just commanded this the the is is people to come and pick me up with it with the jet he was a general actually he said go and pick them up and the only person they could call was callings mawele they said man who went to be with the lord they called him they said you know a boy preacher called gershom they said yes please we want to pick him up by the jet we want to pick him up by the dirt oh that's amazing so that was my first flight that i was i threw in my life and and that's a good way to do it cory's my weight is the one who drove me to a place where there was no airport it was just the plane just landed anywhere and that was a miracle and it was a time when i was struggling was it a harrier it must have been a harrier jump jet was it i'm sure harriers because the harriers can land like that we don't have those ones in the zambia air force yeah we'll leave those onto the british okay yeah but it but it was some people told me it was kind of a presidential uh jet of some kind that's what they described it uh you know it's uh the general i who was not even a christian instructed the military people to pick me up in zambia when you're stuck no one let me just say in africa i've got a good stack story at boarding school yes yes oh yes i'd like you to share that stack stories but anyway just for the sake of the viewers let me say so when i was stranded people like i didn't know what to do and then then i was in a coring's house let me say this is very important he just got married it was their honeymoon day i didn't know where to sleep but they they had a small house they decided to you know not to celebrate their honeymoon instead of juice so i can spend the night in their house wow and they remain and remember i was whipping i said you will not die a captain you will die a general if i be the man of god as people say you will be a general this is what i prophesied to him and when he died was a brick genre so well done jesus i can still serve you again you are faithful so i was really concerned about because i saw he sacrificed for me he was there like my big brother and he sacrificed for him too he was his big supporter wow so we i didn't know he did that to him i know we had buff relationship i didn't know it was so deep for him as much it was deep so i was so concerned i was saying jesus why this person just dies 60 50 is very young these days why you know yeah you know and he hasn't even seen the fullest fullest of my ministry i remember he told me i can't wait when you are 40 how god is going to use you if god cannot use you like this at 15 16 17 he was following my life he says i can't work well your ministry will be when you are 40 years old and i'm not 40 yet you know so oh you're young enough to get married he's single you know praise the lord god is faithful you know so what happened is when he died it really affected me so much and i posted something on facebook i never for post things like that and he laid it and you know then we had many through to come and see me thanks charles it says actually we you know i realized that we're really connected because i always prayed for charles i still have a picture of his wedding in my bible for his inspiration free encouragement it's possible all things are possible yeah so so in this dream he appeared to me like hi i just came i just came to tell you that i'm fine and i'm doing very well tell my friends and family i want to encourage you some of you who may have lost your beloved ones they are doing great in heaven but if they don't know jesus then you should be crying it should be very sad but but if they have jesus rejoice my it's like something was uncut for me yesterday after that dream all that grief was luckily moved wow and it was uncupped and i'm like wow current malware is so safe yes because he was there when i was stuck with that fright and i was picked by the jet for the first time in my life and that was the beginning of many flights in life wow your stack story yes yes yes story well probably because he was talking about collins my interaction with this brother because i think that's part of the thing after i give my heart to the lord if you're coming from a catholic family to go home and say you're now born again you might as well be on drugs or something will be received fairly well yeah so my biggest challenge was uh how do i go home and tell my because like i'm saying catholic nuns and priests in my family and the general idea was uh when i grew up i was going to go to a special catholic school and become a priest or something the school i want to of course here you hear about bullying where i come from bullying was like getting somebody put them into a 300 liter barrel and roll them downhill so it was not on this eye pocky on facebook wow it's bad but yeah that's bad well it was really bad so that was like yeah kids who die from bullying so in the third term um for the theft of everybody the school never announced the exact debt when school breaks because if they say you're gonna be breaking on this day then every bully is preparing for an assault and every person ever bullied is preparing for revenge so it just becomes very as soon as the school term is over yeah especially in the third time because remember when i said there would be like 250 units and only so most of those that feel they don't have a chance of coming back to school there is nothing to restrain them from anybody bad behavior so that just becomes very chaotic so for the theft of everybody the break of the school will just be very certain it's like you would have an emergency assembly okay now everybody you go three hours go home so and that's exactly what happened and my parents were expecting school be breaking in two weeks and we broke school before that so that means i didn't have any money to go home oh wow and um yeah so because it's boarding school you're how far away a few hours by public transport so for him it was much more closer to me for me i was i told you my story yeah because the other school upside down almost got saved so they threw me long way away bala is like from here to new york all right that's like yeah it's far 2 [Music] yeah that's a long place you know if i was where he was i probably would be coming home every weekend well and that's part of the thing you could go home every weekend but that's part of my story which is my whole life's journey is about finding my father i like that story we need to talk about that yeah i'm interested too long so my my life stories about finding my father and pretty much the focus of our ministry is about encountering the father hearts of god because i met my earthly father when i was 23. when i was 23. no way that's the first time you met him yeah and got my first hug from my father when i was 33. so pretty much that's my lifestyle your first hug from your dad when you were 33 so what that just tells you for me home was not a party place you go to every day yeah probably that's why i went to boarding school to get away from me i went to boarding school because i was a troublemaker because i'd lost my mind that i'm preaching to everyone in the street and everywhere so that's why you know wow yeah so you were only a few hours away but you didn't have money to get home yeah i didn't have money to go home if you don't have money you don't have money so um which i was in the 19th grade so that means uh the boys in the ninth grade could have potentially have killed me because if you're in the tenth grade you are potentially one of the people they think used to bully them when they were freshmen and in year 8 so if you are in the 10th grade that's the last place you want to be um i tried to do everything i could do i didn't have any money so some of the kids from scripture uh when year 12 sheltered me so i stayed there school at a night in school and the next morning a little larger said pick up take your bag your luggage and go to the bus stop so i picked up my luggage watched the bus stop i didn't have any money [Music] and the bus came the bus conductor came got my luggage put it in my in the bus okay this is africa you get on the bus you don't have money they'll beat you and throw you out in the middle of nowhere so you just don't want to do that so i knew what was that text i just got my stuff back i'm just waiting to see what god is gonna do and and i had watched the night before the ten commandments i was just incredible and i'm thinking god you parted the reds oh i love that movie you got water out of a rock this is nothing will be the mill that's fair is nothing you can definitely just get me home yeah and that time around i wasn't going back to my parents where it was a few hours ago i was gonna stay with my brother so i don't have to answer questions with my parents how i became born again so yeah so going to stay with my brother who's not a believer and i don't have to answer any questions at all yeah so that was a plan and um there's some lady in the bus through the window she calls out hey young man you always look behind you see if they're talking to somebody behind you but she was talking to me can you come here and i went there and she asked me why did you get your luggage out of the bus or i don't have a fair and then she asked me a certain boy's name if i knew him she was this mother to the bully in my dome when i was a little boy when i was in year eight oh my god and she gives me a fulfill it's like that's cool the bully's mother gave me some money but that was only enough to get me from the boarding school to the city right so it's a good start yeah so went to the city walked from town center to the bus terminus that's like three three miles that's quite a big one wow just walk that bit and then uh this is the bigger trade which is intercity you gotta move to a different city and that's where the big money was gonna be and i'm waiting i'm praying to see what gorgeous gonna do and the last bus this cam and i just hear the bus conductor says young man come back come inside bring your your luggage and i just picked up my luggage i got in the bus and as i'm going through the hours uh everybody was just giving me their money it felt like offering time at church as i'm walking everybody is handing me money by the time i reach where i was sitting at the back seat i got this world of caution it's like that's unbelievable that's crazy and uh i was also asking uh the lord and when i go my brother is naomi so when i go can you introduce me to people that are born again so i sit down and this man says young man you know god loves you i said yes or no i'm born again i sometimes when you need cash people just hand it to you that's how god does it sometimes yeah great so that was cool so on this guy i sat down next to it works out he's also a soldier from my brother's platoon and he saved under the u.n keep pissing force in mozambique so he knew my brother and he gave his heart to the lord during the peacekeeping mission in mozambique he was born again so it's like and when i got home i found my grandmother was visiting with my brother she had traveled from the village for medical attention she was sick and uh excited grandmother i'm born again again i pray for you i've prayed for my grandmother she was healed instantly what a letter to the lord and then she didn't have any more reason to be with my brother where the military hospital facilities are and she went back to my mother back to your mother she's the one that told my mother oh my gosh what an amazing story so she says my mother charles is born again he prayed for me i'm healed oh my mom was upset and then she goes of course i don't know she just says i don't care what you think all i know is i was sick he prayed for me i'm here that's what he says i don't know what happened i know he's always healed and i just had god line it up wow so when i finally went to face up with my mom there was already a solid irrefutable testimony yeah the power of god for my grandmother wow you can't deny it though no they could not do it there's nothing undeniable but since most of my ministry grew up in the city i was leaving the city to go in the villages people leave the village to come to the city for opportunities university and all that so and on that thing it took a lot of years my parents pretty much you send kids to school in africa so they get a good job get a good house and when you grow old they look after you yeah and when your kid just has to be a missionary or pastor yes upsetting yeah because you've given away your retirement fund your kids your retirement fund yeah so so my parents were really upset to the point where they just told me never ask for anything from us so when i'm preaching in the villages i couldn't really go home so i would stay with this guy that he was talking about oh yeah what's his name collins collins so that's why i would stay with callings when i'm not in the villages because i wasn't really welcome on my parents home and you know i was i was actually teaching callings the bible study was one of my practicing i didn't know he just got saved so i was preaching to him all the time and to say you are the greatest preacher ever so i said really this man is older than misery i didn't know he just got saved but but he was so advanced and so zealous did your parents end up getting saved many years later three years later yeah because at that time well i was just in the villages they wanted me to be born again like collings who is born again or surprised in a funny language and as a job and he mostly has a job so it was all like why can't you be born again like your friends or which most of our friends uh their generals in the army or very high savings so it's like you can be a christian like them have a job and do this and do the crazy things so but i felt the lord just the first encounter i had as a little boy in a high school going to the villages it's so powerful the lord might call when i was in year 10 was um called you to preach the gospel to regents beyond so he wants to go so yeah so at some point i also got to a place where family was discussing call the police get him arrested and take him to a mental asylum because wow it got that far yeah whoa when you think about it how would you leave the city to go to the village and live in a grustache house but you must be crazy you must be crazy i'm telling you this is like serious in africa because you know for me they thought i was crazy they thought i was um i didn't have sense because uh i was so touched by god to the place where i didn't know what to do all i wanted is the presence of the lord when when you're in that place where the lord touches you you are just at the place where the lord is forming you and is beauting you and when the time comes to release like what he has done now with charles you know he's got over 200 churches but if he just lost for the what do you know that i've never worked in my life myself of course i started my own business because when i was in that place of seeking god i wasn't even looking for a job or anything i was just visiting the neighbors and go and preach to them and come back because they loved me i spend most of the time with my neighbors but but then then then the lord started speaking to me and said son i want you to start business then start preaching the gospel and i ended up employing over 200 people but sometimes when you're in that process where you don't have money it seems like you have lost your mind it looks like you're too spiritually minded where you're f3 no good and that statement is not right by the way if you're a heaven reminded you'll be athletic good come on jesus yeah let's recall right when you are two three minded you you will do nothing i've heard people say they're too heavenly that you are not a three good then i i went through that process i know it's it's somebody who said it maybe said it in the i respect the person who said it but according to my experience the more heavenly i am the more i get ideas from heaven and bring them to earth and i begin to implement it because our lives we can't really figure it out completely we can go to abcd it doesn't work you know who who knew that we could i could we could have a bamboo bike being made from zombie and being exported to over 63 nations come on that's cool no education can teach you that but i had a vision and a dream that i'm gonna do things like that but i didn't know and this is something that you cannot explain some of you who are going through spiritual encounter right now you may not have enough money in your bank account you may be at a place of confusion you mean your parents may not uh understand you your brothers may not understand you you are in that place every child of god who has a calling they go through that place of crisis even me i i had i had a father that was in african setup we were like wealthy people but not really but you know but relatively relatively i can't say well you know it's just okay but even in that there there was like people think you are crazy they think you are crazy so what charles is sharing uh it's it is universal for people that encounter god this is just a place where you don't know for me there was a place where i didn't feel my family understand me i didn't feel even some church people understood me i didn't feel anybody that's when i went to church i was the most quiet person and i'm on the back and and all that i would attend the youth group and go back and preach somewhere because there was no one so i want to encourage you if you are in that place god is just forming you come on great things are going to happen in your life look at child's you know he he he has an incredible church called access church and he has you know he has incredible kids you know i like my kids you know i don't go to dad i don't know i've heard they bring in breakfast i don't have natural kids but i have spiritual kids maybe a couple of babies listen to this you make us breakfast in these kind couple thousands of spiritual kids um quite rich on that area but child's arguing well not until the ones you get to change diapers for you [Laughter] hey we are out of time but um but charles just quickly how did you first run into heidi and roland and iris ministries uh if you like this story yeah we just invited them and uh oh you invited them um yeah to us to australia i think it's also one of the words that the lord had given to us about he's gonna connect us with people he wants us to connect with so we don't go pursuing relationships with whatever god wants us to connect us with so when your mom came uh first visited us my kids had a dog a coc espanol and we went out some people were looking after property when we came back the dog was gone it was just lost we've never found it so uh the nights where my kids would wake up in the middle of the night they'd cry want their dogs so when your mom came my son that day or he had gone to the shopping mall with friends and looking in the pet shops and says i like this dog he picks up the dog he said he would like to have and he came back home and later on your mom said in mozambique i'm she's where she is i like to do something different can you take me to the shopping mall so we took out a shopping mall and we just dropped at the shopping mall and when she was ready she was gonna call us to pick a wrap and then she rings nicole and he says nick i'd like to get your kids present is it all right if i get them a dog and she didn't know she didn't know oh my god wow that's awesome and then uh niko okay it's okay you can get them a dog and then says can you bring them to the mall so they can choose what dogs she wants they want so when they go to the mall the dog your mom had chosen he's the same dog my son that morning was saying i would like to have this dog wow so we got this little cute uh what is shitsu that when she broke she came home she was 300 grams big so she'd fit in the pocket gosh that's less than a pound that's less sound it's such a good story 464 grams so my kids called the dog pearl so she's a pale great price so she comes to church she's born again and she ministers peace and comforts where everybody she likes dogs she licks i love it that's awesome so a few months ago when your mom came says can you bring power so pal that's awesome and your church is called access access church and what's the website if people want to find out about wwe come on that was a good i don't think i'm the first guest who's dropped this probably not roland rollins has done that before thank you for being here and sharing your amazing story it's so inspiring yeah thanks for having us god knew your name both of you i mean your family's just that all that how god just knew you and called you and he became your family and he put you in families even though your families there was you know difficulty it's just wow so i love my family you know i love each one of them and you know sometimes they don't understand your family may not understand but at the end they will understand amen today they now understand most of them now they wanna they say we are following your example this is amazing because they can see the god of miracles don't give a [ __ ] miracles to underscore that my mom now she's hosting revival meetings in her home wow come on and uh i'm the prince in the family now that's redemption long story about we got on well and avoid opportunities and praying with my family so amazing wow thank you charles could you just bless us bless our audience quickly before we father i want finish thank you that you're a good dad and you just delight in our kids well i thank you for everybody that uh is here and is watching this podcast i just asked that uh let your grace your presence just rest upon them lord i just ask them that you pursue them like david says that surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life while i pray let him have an encounter of your goodness let there be never a day they don't experience your life for them in jesus name amen amen whoa well guys thank you for watching how amazing these african brothers whoa african australian come on i love it great combo so um yeah leave your comments below tell us who you want to hear download the app we have the new iris app on your iphone iris global i got there on the iphone last week makes easy finding all the programs so much easier to use yes yeah so and it's in the google store or the apple store android app i'm the best part it's free yes come on what's up freely we receive freely we give a baba remember the hollywood mastery class to download that oh yes oh yeah your mastery class yes yeah come on people can find us at hollywoodmasteryclass.com yes that's good here right in hollywood well we love you guys crystal take us out thanks for listening i feel like you said everything uh you can find our podcast on itunes as well and until next time jesus loves you he loves you this podcast is presented by iris global for more information or to support the work of 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Keywords: Iris After Hours, Podcast, Iris Global, Heidi Baker, Rolland Baker, Nathan Kotzur, Crystalyn Human, Christian, Missions, Iris Ministries, NGO, Free, Encouraging, Inspiring, Testimony, Gershon Sikaala, Charles Lambalika, GershomSikaala.org, themountain.org

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Length: 57min 16sec (3436 seconds)

Published: Fri Jul 28 2017