Iris After Hours - Episode 75 - Nathan and Sarah Kotzur

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hi welcome back to iris after hours this is gonna be a great one because who's on the other side of the desk what am I doing here I don't know why am I on this side of this chrysalis and his real-life wife say yes no my statement my wife we're so excited they've been part of the iris family for almost a decade come on I've been in senior leadership Nathan's a VP of iris media come on host the podcast show Sarah Nathan lead the iris Los Angeles film acting art and music school the second ones coming up how excited are you guys this is coming up really soon six weeks today no yesterday today's Monday yeah six weeks today we start so when you see this podcast it'll be like four weeks or five weeks it starts tell me what it is in a nutshell this is kind of what you've devoted a lot of your time to in the last couple of years yes yes it's crazy it's been a crazy good journey of I don't know just laying low going low going slow and seeing what happens we've been in LA for seven years and it was took the first four years it's almost seven years yes get 2011 it's 2018 we'll go to a few thousand eleven no okay seven years I was not good at maths not my strongpoint it will be nine years they're 10 years and we're planning to stay just for the record we're here it's just great considering everything you've been through yeah yeah all right I know and that's what part of our life m2 is is it's not just about the school it's about community here for artists who feel called by God to come and to to glorify Him with their gifts and not get taken out by the enemy and getting self-obsessed or getting bitterly broken by disappointment and you know failure but not being taken out by success and glory as well either on the other side of the spectrum but just showing up a gift being obedient loving God loving those around you and having family here to support you and run with you in that so yeah it's it's interesting journey how God's brought us to such intentionality in the journey of walking with him and with our giftings and that's what we that's sort of what we feel we can offer with people coming to the school or young artists to help raise them up to walk that line with God and with your gift both glorifying him walking into maturity in both I suppose yeah oh yeah I guess the beginning of the school or the first inkling we had about this school was your mom the infamous Heidi Baker gave us a word before she even really knew us ten years ago now 2007 that we would be part of in the day in Africa and also well yeah but um that we would be my part of I'm confused I see a rug yeah I think it was wrong yeah no we meant here in Africa I was going back to the very first word remember in the tent when we first got to the school she prophesied over us on the in the day there's many prophecies there was one particular prophecy that I'm relator so you're actually there for Christian and you overheard more witness because for context we became friends over spray eleven years ago spades in the dirt in Africa he's gonna throw in these random statements which you guys are very used to and you are very used to now sorry we're all very easy to if you know I just think the comments boy leaves no comments Lauren on comments we have we let's just touch on this for a minute okay you know community we call this the squirrel and what is that movie you're like you're like that dog from um gosh yeah what is it that maybe when it all guys a goat squirrel oh yeah no no no yes it is squirrel oh yes it's the dog come up yeah um okay um she's the dog from up and he constantly has these flying little thoughts but over the hedge is there is a squirrel on over the hedge that I'm referred to as well oh okay that's girl maybe that's one but anyway animations it's very endearing and everyone on iris after Ailes has become very accustomed to it as have I being married to for 14 years now and we've been friends for 11 years um Nathan has these squirrels that come past his mind and most people don't say them but Nathan shares them generously with everyone all the time and it's the one debate and so I just speak grace over everyone that watches iris after hours that has become accustomed to these little random statements yeah because we love it we're glad we got where you add the reason I said spades is because we got close to Brock and Kristi in Africa where we first met than playing spades which is a really cool card yes it's a card game yeah sure yeah that's true we're actually despites tournament amongst the mission it back to what I was saying yes what the squirrels sometimes does which takes us on random tree squirrels a long series of times see on iris after hours some perfect back to what I was saying another thing that happened was this word from Heidi and she really didn't know us at the time and she gave us this crazy word about an acting school a school that we would be part of that was really training and equipping people professionally in their craft and almost almost like God downloading a whole new um a whole new I think she'll improv like a Stanislavski method almost but the God would download a whole new way for artists to be trained well at the same time encountering him and that would be it would very much be a school undercover in many ways for just like hardcore encountering God and I remember when she gave us the word 10 years ago I was like an acting school like okay for context both of us were actors that was our profession profession back in the day oh it's in the year before God called us to lay that down which we can maybe circle back to you in a minute but um but it was very interest when she gave us his word because I just remember being like I don't want an acting school and it also seemed very impossible at the time like a really far out there word oh yes yes how is this gonna happen and she was like it was a deep word I mean she prophesied for a long time even for sure about it yeah she really saw it what she saw the Makua bride in Pemba before she'd either left Maputo the villagers I'm seeing the building and everything it was like crazy she saw the building and yeah and really that word has turned into a tenure word because we really only begin to even see what God was meaning in that word three years ago when we did kind of our first experimental version oh yeah this made me see the artist boot camp with Chuck and Sally accord the man yeah in Santa Barbara and and that was like a sort of forming guinea pig version of what has now become a la sham which is iris Los Angeles film acting now art artists just joined this year and music school and really in a nutshell Christi to answer your question at the beginning it is like Nathan said a place where people can really be trained and equipped in their area in their craft so if it's film we've got them being taught the A to Z in filmmaking they make a short film in teams by the end of the school and just get to work with industry professionals being taught script writing being taught being taught camera basically the whole gamut of that in acting we have the incredible Diane Bernards all huge fans of and she's become a real cornerstone of the school she just has such a cutting edge on what it is to really explore the excellence of acting and and the integrity of being an artist yeah oh yeah it's very hard to find that training elsewhere someone who's that spiritually committed to what's going on in you and also artistically committed yeah it's almost like she's like a life famine in one person you need to be prepared to come to that track yes you'll be physically fit start working out now becoming that contract and you've got to be mentally prepared to actually go this is a season of intense training yeah an intensity of exposure in terms of just because like dieters have acting it's basically unzipping yourself in front of the camera in terms of being emotionally raw and vulnerable so there's a lot of care and a lot of support but it's a it's a stepping out and stepping up yeah acting track and Diane just so captivated our hearts and inspired us because going through drama school ourselves at a university level and getting our degrees doing a lot of training back in the day enacting ourselves when we met Diane we're like wow she has introduced the standards of the craft she if anything she's always pushing it higher I mean Julia grabbed disciplines and the training yeah she's just incredible in her level of expertise and professionalism a commitment and commitment but at the same time she is so after excellence in the artist and actually going after the spiritual healing and inner healing that it takes to be able to be really ready to be fully used as it means to you an emotional wholeness yes and having God first on all the things are coming in to stop God being number one in your life all these lies that try to say you need this you need this you need this yeah you may need it but it's all the in priority with God on the crown on the throne of your life yeah so you don't get all you know yeah and she's someone that's really walked the road here in Hollywood in LA I love her one of her crowning phrases which is to be called to Hollywood you can have nothing in common with the spirit of Hollywood and she really goes after that in in artists in actors in in the process of training them and equipping them in their craft to just really not have anything in common with that spirit and and like you said that emotional wholeness the journey of that and I feel like she's she's very unique in that I haven't actually seen acting teaching like that so I feel like she's a real fulfillment of that word that your mom spoke out ten years ago you know and if you think about it too I mean how much as Christians even let alone just as a normal human beings do we consume film and and music you know it's a daily we we play we have music daily in our cars and I mean we have we watch TV or films that like a lot so this is like an integral part however it's worked out in humanity music and film and TV performance or the theater as well is an integral part of our daily lives now so to be trained in it and to be able to become content creators eventually of this and to glorify God in the calling is so many I mean I don't know we know so many Christians here you know Holly went to so many people called so what we're really about is setting everyone up to really fulfill that and because the enemy wants to take every single one of us out with focusing on ourselves or our disappointments or our successes or whatever and getting isolated exactly huge part of what you do here is bring people together into yeah yeah during the school but also after the school it's a huge part of yeah what you're called to do you see the money where the moment we have two gatherings every week don't we yeah for four people part of our community yeah we run a men's group zero one's a women's group every Wednesday morning here and then we have something either on the weekend either a Friday night like we'd had a Shabbat dinner at our house Friday night which is amazing and all we do a Sunday night or Sunday lunch gathering yeah yeah it's it's family and that was really the strategy God gave us even the name I felt like he showed me the name when he wrote film acting and music and now the eight represents both the art track as well that it was fan it was family that it was all in the context of family and because we've been on a long journey and rode with the entertainment industry we've just seen how many people get taken out through that isolation through becoming almost trapped in their gift trapped in what they're called to do they feel isolated and alone in that and they they actually usually end up falling in some capacity in that and we've really felt God's given us the strategy that through covenant relationship through family that we could we could actually have one another's backs and then and then as we're purified in him there isn't no no go zones that we can actually that he's actually able to use us however he wants to in the industry with that backup of an context of family and so and that we we're willing to serve you know and do lonely tasks and associated with low low positions like it says in the book of James you know be willing to associate with people of locust what are the lowly tasks we're willing to do o serve other people's projects if serve other people's dreams survivor agency big their projects come to life use that one of our catchphrases is your success is my success your breakthrough is my breakthrough so it's like we celebrate rather than going oh my gosh it's not about that it's about yes come on yeah you are breaking through let's celebrate that because we're all breaking through when you break through because we're a family yeah yeah I am getting something from the Lord just not quickly babe oh oh yeah so fine yeah hold the phone edge as well as they lord the Lord thus saith the Lord um no but what I'm feeling is that that whole thing of also people getting taken out by the gift that you mentioned I really just feel impressed on me that a lot of people never get released in their gift because they they lay it down for something else for something that requires less faith all that's character or less character or less vision or dreaming or going after your dream right because people think oh yeah I wanted to be an actor I wanted to make your word but do you do it what about actually going wow if this is really God like I said before price yeah it's in our lives every day every human being just about on this earth has I mean that in their life music and and storytelling whether it's a film TV TV or theater that maybe people have laid down their god-given callings and they're not fulfilling it and maybe that's why people are getting depressed and maybe that's why they're they can't find what they need because they're not fulfilling what God's called them to do and that's part of what the school is too is to pick up the vision if it's really you and you feel that to come and lay hold of it again and and to sacrifice for it to go yeah let's really see this come because if gods aren't he's going to anoint it then you need to do it yeah which really I mean which really what you're jumping to an addressing Nathan is that the missional heart that God's given us to Los Angeles into the entertainment industry because you know we're we're in Africa we had laid down our careers we'd lay down any thought of being involved in the entertainment industry when God gave us this as our mission field and the entertainment industry and I feel like something that's being shifted and changed in the mindsets of this generation is to actually understand when you're called to do something in God it is your mission field it is your calling it's not just so just my career and then God's over here and then I just get on about this and try and do it maybe as least sinful as I can and then God's my relationship with God is over here it is one in the same thing like me going after this and doing the discipline and training and and and and investing in relationships and family it's all part of my calling and the mission that God has me on in this earth and and that we I feel like God's God's rubbed out some of those lines we've had around missions and ministry and he's calling people to many different spheres of society to many different nations to many different people he wants his glory to cover the earth as the waters cover the sea every tribe and tongue and that includes that includes Hollywood that encloses Angeles that includes Congo that includes Sudan and the Middle East this needs to become sacred Hollywood needs to become safe he wants his house full he doesn't want any people group left out of that banqueting feast you know and and so I think that's a deep conviction that we have as we've journeyed with the Lord and he's really given us this heart for people that are called by him into the entertainment industries which also this time is including art which some people don't call the entertainment industry but it is definitely calling the artists come film so arts on that turn yeah so to talk out on that quickly um some amazing artists came across our paths Victor and Diana that Koons Atkins from Philly they're from Philly and they've moved out here and Philadelphia he's they're both incredible artists in their own right I mean he has he has you guys just did a podcast food that will probably be coming out soon too he's showing it's ladies made all clothes out of his artwork yeah yeah he's got amazing art but they've been professional artists that God has just arrested and they really want to see a renaissance and a renewal of artists not just an original works of people of faith putting it out there not following rules or things that have been set up as Christian art but just offending artists will see the raw power and vision of God and their own originally coming out in their work yes yes which might have darkness in it sometimes or whatever yeah the struggle whatever your real story is what is is a struggle is honorable mm-hmm yes they are amazing so they have a studio that they're gonna be working out of with the artists and they're gonna be really teaching amazing fundamentals of painting and art but really again doing it with Holy Spirit in the prison chair without it necessarily being prophetic art not that they're anti that but I feel like we've kind of started to explore that in the church but we haven't cut a context for what about people that actually feel called as more in a professional sense of producing their art what does that look like so that's coming into the school this year which is really exciting and then of course just before we get too much more into the podcast to mention the music which is an amazing track that actually your husband really helped to begin to put together and and it's in the beginning and sort of songwriting is the heart of it I think isn't it yeah songwriter songwriters I'm really being encouraged to find their own originality in that of course for a son that does look like more mainstream worship but for others it's it's just it may still be their worship unto God but it's coming out of more of a place of storytelling storytelling and journey poetic expression so yeah so I feel like but the really exciting thing too is they're actually getting in industry professionals we have kami and Daniel Aguila who are just incredible have been running a big studio out here for the last ten years and for threads yeah they're both Berkeley ground basically music in Boston it's one of the best we're here yeah and and they were it is you know they work with rock your husband broke human they work with a bunch of different professional artists in the industry that come in and then they actually record their own react song by the end of the school which the CD that was produced last time was just yeah we're gonna get out here we're gonna get it out to you all soon hopefully I'm looking at a way to get it so you can listen to our CD from the first one you know and some of them were loading their own songs in that professional studio way for the first time you know that and so yeah we uh we had a big we had varying degree of experience in every track yeah I would say but each musician ended up with their own original track and song and I just had a great idea we should have done a podcast with every one of them coming in and singing this on on the podcast well so this year we're gonna do that I'm gonna do a podcast if you want to see that if you're Z that podcast I write it down below in the comments okay so yes that's the school I feel like in a long not really nutshell at all but the really same school is very exciting we really feel we really feel it's what God's called us to do to be perfectly honest we just feel I don't know that I'd be doing a school if he hadn't really called us but he's made it really clear that this is one of the ways he's helping to forge community here is helping artists to get trained and equipped and for some of them it's a stepping stone to LA to where they're coming to test the waters for that intensive season that's six weeks get immersed here actually taste and feel the culture and the surroundings and their craft and and get immersed in the spirit and so it's yes and we also feel we also feel the fear of the Lord on it as well in the closets that it's pretty it's a it's a real privilege and an honor to to take young people in who are vulnerable and wanting to come in to explore their craft you know it's it's it's they're very precious the students are really precious yeah and a lot of people come a very broken and that's totally cool and we we work together as a family you know I I suppose it's a little bit of a slice of heaven for six weeks where we are live as a community in an intense way an intentional way with God and learning aircraft it's a lot of worship there speakers I mean we have iris school there's a lot of worship yeah yeah we we starting and go from the presence your mom says at best or fruitfulness flows from intimacy we are definitely in iris school we are about everything coming out of the presence we start every day in worship but another real gift in the school is because being here in Los Angeles we have been able to get some amazing industry and and sorta leaders come in and and just quit this you don't sweet message you get imparted to you from people I mean we can't even advertise some of the speakers that come because they're just they're just so under the radar yes under the radar here in the industry but they're also just making such a difference here in Hollywood and in the industry so it's very it's a very rich and full time we get a lot out of it we all get a lot out and it's a holy and consecrated type it's - it's fully about holiness and consecration taling getting rid of your baggage you know and getting rid of your selfishness and all that stuff and really learning to serve and give and become that living sacrifice it talks about in Romans 12 I think being a living sacrifice and I mean I feel like in some ways um especially from Nathan mine journey with Los Angeles and when the Lord called us to come out here I was really seeking him about well what does that look like to go to Los Angeles and if you're really calling us to LA and I remember the only very very clear thing I heard the Lord say high school was Sarah everyone goes to LA with an agenda I'm asking you to go without one and I feel like of the of the seven years that we've lived is there something you wrote before either two before moving here that this is back in we were serving so rewind we were serving in Africa with your parents we'd be actually wanted to take it back okay a little bit further a little time on yeah you guys were both raised in amazing Christian homes PK's both pastors kids amazing parents amazing parents crazy stories in that but you had a solid walk with the Lord and then you got pretty radically wrecked not that long before coming to harvest school oh yeah we read your mom and dad's book so that was a shift and kind of also when you got involved in iris yeah can you talk to me about that shift for a minute leading into well reading that book we just saw our bar of expectation what was it available in God was highly role yeah hottie roles there is a bar up here and we're going oh my gosh we've got a we've got a set our sights higher and with expectations you're in the entertainment industry married for a few years at this point this was our fourth year married to actually we mean together for that was our third year together I think but was our first year of marriage and um and we were pursuing our careers professionally but we also loved the Lord like you said well raising a brother raised Christian homes and really I mean we were like yeah we're gonna be actors for Jesus you weren't really passionate about being in the industry at that point I was really actively in it yeah we've Nathan been in about 10 years at that point professionally and I'd come in to slay tasted yeah yeah that's a little bit a little bit um if Sarah's table with his stage wife though she up some places stage one ten years Joyce and anyway more than ten years yeah I had print out in the drama school and was starting to really warm up into my career and I actually had a had a little bit of a a little bit of success and um and we read we get handed this book your parents there is always enough we read it together we solve through everybody to each other we actually did it was done that before we've never just weep at the end of every chapter was just how could I read a book together but it's actually a novel you actually lived there as always enough um anyway we read it we solved and really what it did to us and I I've coined it this way um I feel like your mum has saved many kids around the world you know she brought in all of your African brothers and sisters and who we've got to know and we love very much now too but um I feel that Heidi rescued us out of the gutter of complacent Christianity complacent Western Christian life centrist Western Christianity where we were we didn't even realize we were sitting in that place we love the Lord we were just going about our lives but something about reading that book and then starting to listen to some of Heidi's messages we just realized what resonated something had been burning in us for a while too and that resonated so much with us like yes there is more like there's more asthma we knew there was more the whole time but we were just like how does this work yes it was like any let me read that book from it ignited it as a whole it came on fire it did and then um and then we just really started seeking the Lord from that place and we're really hit and I think it's really the mercy of God in your life when these moments happen but I felt like the the reality of standing before him at the end of my life come on into our lives the reality of that really hit us like a ton of bricks and I remember crying out this one particular day just from the depth of my being God take my life take my life take my life I don't want to get there and find out that there was more find out that I live for me or that I lived on this sort of plan and I had mr. you know this plan that we thought was good or was fast or whatever and it actually wasn't all that he had for us in this life and and and I just think that's the mercy and love of God when he actually brought to you with that because we are gonna stand there one day before him we are gonna get all our life will be laid bare before he gives us the cheat sheet and he and he beautifully in that season impacted our hearts to go you know what that there is nothing not that anything is wrong or chasing our careers was even wrong it was just that we wanted the fullness there is like to suck sorry to see ya we have elephants about us no idea what if you haven't gotten into our professional studio yes worshiping the Lord up they just don't worry just take it as glory coming down from above okay so angels angels in the heavenly realm warring for you anyway we basically a very long story short God God ended up calling me actually to give up my career at that point when I just had one of the best opportunities in my career come about and he asked me to lay it down and I felt like at the time it felt like he was asking me to cut off my right arm I've been training as an actress for 15 years at that point and it it just really felt painful but as I laid it down actually I felt the most incredible joy film me and and basically from that place he just began to take us on the most radical journey with him and it really is true when the words he does he's able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we could ask or think because that has been mine and Nate's 10 years since that point yeah 11 years whatever it's been 12 years since that points it is just amazing and I mean now I mean Heidi and Roland are our spiritual parents now we have run with them over the last 10 years we got to lead the harbor school with them for us for a two-year period which was just incredible where we got to really see how the kingdom's coming amongst the poor of the earth and the kingdom is coming amongst the poor of the earth and it is radically exciting we've seen deaf ears open blind eyes open food multiplied many more the things that we read in the book we have now seen with our own eyes and just to get to do that in our lifetime it's just I didn't even know that was in my heart in fact I think going Africa was like the scariest yeah she wasn't not gonna go thank God really oh yeah I said we're gonna go African even know who's right she was freaked out about go that was it your idea to go to harvest school no no weasel I just wanted to go to Africa like felicito this is pre Oh pre he said he said we didn't know hotties all ahead of summer school actually that's a whole other story yeah I just know we should go maybe we should go to Africa you know and it was so I just tested the idea out it's so funny oh no the really quick version is I got totally wrecked oh my gosh some areas which he counted god that way it was hilarious Heidi and Rowland's conference she looks like it into a realm she got taken into a realm where every person she looked at all she could see was them in their fully redeemed state and it was like through the eyes of our Minister every human being she just sort of go wow look at anyone for hours and hours often encounter it was it was hey I kind of wish I could gonna say oh yeah she was completely overwhelmed by any human being that got in front of her face I really knew in that moment you could have put Hitler in front of me and I would have been able to see this Redemption the redemptive design of God like what God I felt like I could only see people through the eyes of perfect love and through that perfect design so I couldn't it was at you physically react like fall over okay whoa well just like it was like she was encountering the glory of God in every human being great straight its lost it about twelve hours 12 hours anyway in that God told Krista and Brooke were at that conference but we didn't meet you you'll see thousand seven in Adelaide yeah we saw you up the front no party introduce you sister the pastor introduced as [Music] crystal and Baker High Dean Rollins daughter and her special friend Brock that's what I remember free Mary I was like okay we were very clearly dating but it was my special friend so it's great we didn't meet at the conference we met later that year though um yeah that was January and we're playing spades for June by June spanks in Africa back to thank you thank you for tying that boy's report clever story telling me um yes almost biological spiders bite yeah just saying great um so getting the long version but in that encounter God actually himself your parents didn't at the beginning even advertise the school because they'd only mean like one or two schools in Africa at that point it was very primitive yeah digging latrines for the people that were coming and I mean you very very first school and God actually said to me in this encounter you will go to Heidi Rowland Heidi and Roland Baker School in Africa and I went and I was so afraid I don't know this but I wait yes when I found out he had already wanted to go I was so afraid I was like oh my gosh so he actually got so good when God asks you to do things that scare you or that a write-off your grid he always confirms them and I think that is just a little gold nugget but thanks God thanks God he always confirms that confirms it and he actually told me so beautifully all these things that would happen over the next several months in detail dates times he said these things will happen it was crazy I'm gonna be a book one day these year these three or four things and they happened one after another it was like it freaks me out when we hear our own story when we tell I would did that really happen to us I don't think they ever experienced everything my story I need it tell my story every night again just to give myself faith that wow you actually did this in my life god this is crazy anymore fake baby you have the most know I need know I feel like we're raising the bar again no weird faith early teens irrepressible Nathan um but yes here he was totally filled with faith I was Thomas I was wanting to see the holes in the hand and the feet I was like no Jesus unless I see I will not believe and God so gracious even to those that are more like Thomas and the other side to go Sarah or this one Jimmy he did he confirmed it all we went and in 2007 and our lives were just undone at the school in Africa and we thought and we knew we were in the center of God's will there like one of those moments where you had no doubt that you were in the very perfect center of his will and that you were walking in it it was such a beautiful feeling yeah and I mean even yeah it's just involved it was incredible and we just felt the most surrendered we never felt in our lives we felt the most full we findind the most abandoned not a bit that sounds bad but abandoned to God yes not abandoned by God yeah anyways we're in Africa for those three months and we're just seeking Lord and we were ready to go anywhere and I mean in it's a mission school that we'd gone to so our assumption was he's gonna send us to the ends of the earth it's probably from me I was thinking it's going to be something really scary and just before we left on this letter saying we bet we'd won the green card lottery to move to America and it was like what and we thought it was a joke and considering up to get our visas for going to depend oh I won't you I'll ring him there cuz I'm calling internationally I'll call this number in America see what this is what's going on like you know sir you wanna you've won the green card lottery to move to the United States of America but like what right at the time you're ready to go into third world missions and live in Africa yeah you win a green card to the US yes we won well we got word that we'd won but that's a bit of a long story because it didn't mean that we had a green card it meant we had a right to apply for one yeah but we were leaving for Africa within the week so we had no time to do the paperwork we had no time to get ready for it so what we did you're supposed to get a lawyer to help us pay thousands and although most people do get everything all yet eyes dotted and your t's crossed so otherwise you can forfeit the whole thing well we had no time to do that we were like this is weird anyway so we just filled out the thing scratched it out literally the day we left for Africa we left it always Lizzie Lizzie post this to this address and put an American state like my key to America so we left Africa not thinking we had a green card but we had this weird opportunity to make potential really other interviews and all this pass all these tests for tuberculosis and AIDS to make sure we did it well and it and you don't necessarily get it it's like a long process so and and we sent off this paperwork and done a terrible job of it so we go to Africa we kind of forget about that we're in Africa we're ready to go anywhere we start getting totally destroyed by the amazing destroyed that so intense but I'm the best part the best possible way thank you babe looks clarify we're not being Riyadh abandoned not badly destroyed but all the selfishness in us was being destroyed and although Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee was being destroyed and I remember I mean just to cut it short again just being in the dirt and crying you know like okay God where is it we'll go anywhere and I'm getting ready to go to Sudan was in a lot of turmoil at that time we were hearing about showering about Somalia we were here longer my heart was actually getting really stirred for Congo and I was like maybe it's gonna be Congo and and I just remember being in the dirt crying one day and your mom again came up and start praying over us and she's like you're gonna go to the richest of the rich and the poorest of the poor and I'll why whoa this is what I was talking about this is that first prophetic word that I've made the mistake before that I thought you meant this is this way this was when we first met Heidi she didn't ask from variscite and she was like the Richard I assume you said that hereby recite I need made from baritone it sounds familiar to me okay no no I'm your you are very international yeah anyway we start to get words in that school different prophets call us out Shara proudhon called us out at one point and said I see Hollywood over you guys and people like I see California I see the doors of California are gonna open and we're kind of thinking about this green card thing and we're going no way and then I'm sobbing in the dirt one day and I hear God say you're gonna go to the darkest of the dark and I'm like yeah that's that's what I was feeling and he and he just goes Hollywood and I was like and I just remember actually in that moment being shocked by my own response but a huge note just came out of me and he is just very spiritual know God because I felt loved it like Hollywood would have been somewhere I would have set my sails for as a professional actor in that whole and when I had given that up I was like that doesn't even make any I didn't even have a desire left to go now I'm seeing these incredible things among I was so on out the pawn read god we just was we just wanted God in His presence more than any and we were seeing him move in such crazy ways the idea of going to Hollywood just felt almost like left that behind yes sir see you know at that moment it felt like a sacrifice which was weird even me at that at that moment and what basically unfolded was about a three three year journey um three four nearly four-year journey with God where he just really clarified and confirmed that he was calling us to go to Los Angeles and to Hollywood that four year yeah four year that was 2007 we we landed here in Hollywood in 2011 then five months pregnant and in those four years God actually really connected us with you guys with your parents um found out you had this call to LA as well you and crazy and that was shocking to me and then your parents asked us to come and lead it became the harvest school it was called Holi given when we did we did that for two years yes we needed a lot more training and that was God's gracious we had to do the house school five times to actually get it yes we actually did and and it was it was a long process but I think we also needed to really the journey here has not been it's interesting in Africa I feel like the enemy is so obvious you know there's there's there's loss there's poverty the sickness there's hunger that's very behind in the suffering of the death and the disease it's in your family so your need for God is in your face and you're leaving out of that place and and therefore God is able to break in almost with ease in some ways to through that darkness you know especially with what your district in Mozambique calls him yeah there's you you see the kingdom come so tangibly and I think when you have a call to the west the enemy's greatest lie is that he doesn't exist it's it's it's it's the subtlety of what you face it's it's the subtlety of you know and and therefore it takes almost time to actually break through it there's almost this I even look at Daniel and Joseph and Esther and you know we're often like yes God used me in influential places to bring your kingdom we never really want to look at the process that's in there you know Joe Joseph all these years in prison Daniel there's some lions to face today you taken out of his own country and had to go on a crazy diet the Daniel diet no food off the Queen's table that's a good idea are we doing that anymore Nathan would take the lens over that yeah he probably would he likes the line um yes the Brisbane Lions go um Ozzie would be Ozzie foot team I lost my train of thought anyways I feel a cess feel like there is there is often a longer and a hidden process that in that in the journey when you're cold to some to a place of influence or to a place of over your destiny - oh yeah yes to me yeah your where your motives have to be really purified oh yes impure motives will be exposed in in a place like Los Angeles in a in a in a place like Hollywood um I think that's why now in hindsight I look at it it's why God see will see through us straight away everyone goes to LA with an agenda I'm asking you to go without one um I felt like he he said the same thing you learn in Mission School which is go low go slow learn the heart language of the people don't come in with all the answers don't come in with your big ministry or you I know it all and I'll teach you how to do it all our journey and that has been so applied that's been so yeah we've really got like that in our journey in Los Angeles in the sense of I mean we're seven years in and we're only the last few years have felt a release to even do the school and to do some of these things that were just it's we have some real I mean you will have stuff any any room like Diane says anything that's in common in you will be tested it will be exposed it will the enemy will either use it to completely destroy you and pull you down or God in His mercy will expose it so that just like Joseph and Daniel and David you're able you're you're made ready for what he's called you to and um something that has really hit me with artists is is God doesn't want your gift at the expense of you he doesn't she doesn't want to use he's not gonna get your gifting so great that he's gonna exalt you and you're gonna be destroyed in the process because he wants your gift to verify him now he wants you there is a battlefield you've got to be his and then the giftings safe to be used yeah yeah I just you know in this last school I had a vision where I saw a battlefield of bodies is amazing um and I felt like he said that's that's the the field this field of Hollywood entertainment with credit was somebody filled with Christian bodies and he just said I'm here to be the light yeah no I'll come here too for Jesus you know bringing their gift for gee you know they think they're gonna be able to bring him glory through their success somehow and it was just bodies just casual tees this whole it was literally a short Regent was terrific actually to see and I heard the Lord say I don't want to lose any more sons and daughters on this battlefield but I don't feel that that means we're called not to go of course we are I mean he gave me the vision of the Hollywood bride that I shared in was able to share in compel by love um where he said I want my Hollywood bride home you know I want her locked away from me for all eternity I want her he wants her at the banqueting table too you know so it's not that we're called not to go it's that we're called to go but not at the expense of who we are to him that we have to become whole we have to be purified we have to be cleansed pure hearts and not for sale clean hands we're not available to the highest bidder yeah you know we can support or sold yeah which is huge when when you don't know who you are whose you are and you're trying to get it's like you're just this vulnerable little oh honey here in Hollywood and it's all yeah I'll do it yeah okay he'll go there or do whatever you want me to do cuz this is my calling it's not about that yeah we can't be bought or sold but also you go on to a battlefield like that alone with machine guns all lined up you're probably not gonna make it across the field so I feel like God's also that that thing coming back to that thing of family again like yeah and so for seven years I felt like God has said relationship invest in relationship like it is not about what you build like I keep he said I will build my church and the gates of Eleanor well against it he's actually I don't think he's very into us building I think he's into us giving him everything and letting him build whatever he wants out of our lives I I think that my Jesus at least said I've encountered through my life has been less about not that he doesn't cause to build but what we build must come out of total consecration and surrender to Him if it's going to be anything that will remain that will not be shaken the last is that will last and and we're passionate about that and so the strategy has really given us is relationship so I mean we've been walking in covenant relationship for the last 11 10 years 11 years with you guys but with all of this community that has really grown here now to a very strong and solid community of people that do have these gift sets that are artists they're musicians they're actors they're writers they're filmmakers they do have these gifts these gifts but they're they're only going to be able to do it as we allow God to refine us together with one another and and that's that's just something that we've seen has been a slow process yeah but I think I think we haven't seen what God is able to do if people really have each other's backs yeah my favorite definition of covenant is covenant is not so much a promise I make to you but a promise I make to God that I will not bail on you while you go through your purification process and we have really wanted to show this to go through ours for sure and absolutely and we do it together we go throughout we're in process but I think we're yet to see what can happen when a family and army of artists say I'm not going to bail on you like you're in a process and you need to come to fullness of it so that you can walk in you look at that band and you on the battlefield but we're gonna do it together and we're gonna let him come and we're gonna do it aggressively with everything we have seeking him because without his without him we don't want to go anyway it's all gonna be it's all gonna be for naught you know so and about having your sights set high I mean that's what party and rollin do for us it raised our vision up and I think that's what yeah that's what artists need to do here and they feel to come here that you need to have a vision and go yes that's I mean if you don't get there you go you're gonna get higher than you're going with a low vision here you've got to have faith because it's by faith by faith by faith like it says in Hebrews 11 you know that it's it's it's that's how you come here by faith and how you achieve stuff so you've got you've got to have that vision to go live let's go for it you know even if we really make it halfway there's nothing been thinking about that but that's gonna be why i than if i set my sights here yeah yeah yeah definitely we're excited it feels like an exciting time to be alive it's an exciting time to be an artist to be a creative - I just I'm so excited for the films and the stories and the songs and the things were yet to see the artworks I feel that there is going to be a Reformation or a nascent era of artists coming through the body of Christ that are creating out of purity yeah and okay and God's anointing coming on stuff that's happening like that's gonna be crazy to have people see anointed works yeah formats of art of music you know yeah I'm not that we don't see that now but just that increase in just our there's new levels you know cuz heavens like that that's what heaven is you know yeah I just feel to share one more thing about what God showed me with relationship he showed me David and Goliath and he said to me the stones of covenant relationship will take out the Goliath of this land and I really feel that that's me like I think we would have been taken out if we know this - I was actually gonna ask you guys what do you think kept you in LA when you hit so many obstacles and when you had so much attack against your family and your kids and Israel I imagine you wanted to leave Malta where you'd really seem breaks oh yes yep yeah our first point is ride eight emergency room visits in his first six months of life which is eight months of life very crazy life-threatening situations and we lost a baby I hemorrhaged and nearly died we had we hit a marriage real hard point in our marriage rolls like our marriage isn't even gonna make it out of LA like it just felt like all of how old was trying to chase us out of LA and I constantly was like we haven't even done anything like Josie already is I was trying to be here what is to be gone be gods and beers something to be said there just to be in the city and to be gods and just to be yes and even be here God to be gods be gods it's belong to God oh yeah that could be taken away yes I would going we are God's okay no love yes to belong to gotcha we're not God and that's a relief we belong to God and we are here and we belong to God you were just trying to be here and being relationship with people and see what God wanted to do and yeah leave here and be his yeah yeah and it felt like we're being chased out of out of town with an axe and and what kept us I would say two things kept us here one was that your motive of why you've come gets tested to the bone so if you have not come knowing he's called you and if you have not come for him and for his glory you will probably get chased out of town with an axe and you will probably go running and not last long in Los Angeles unless you sell yourself out also yourself out and and one of those bodies on that on the field um so you might look great in the world's eyes but you're not gonna look very hot in God's eyes so our core motive of why we'd come got tested to the bone and we were like and I would even beg Nathan please can yeah it would be like you have to go to God about that baby you brought a serious to take us out of here to somewhere else and I'd be like God and God would just reconfirm and reconfirm and he's actually done I mean we're telling the word family you know he recalls to keep us here we had you know you're Brock and Chuck and Sally on the point yeah and Heidi and Roland your parents were really ok well then you are you saying oh you're just a roll it so distinctly yes great we say a large : but it's it's the double L Roland yeah I think Roland it's our it's the French version ok God's people basically the short answer is God and God's people and then include it your parents like your mom believed it Oh amazing your mom so many times I can't even tell the stories but she knew stuff was trying to take us out in our children or should call us up enjoyment yes almost and we get psycho like you are not warfare and Alaska doors almost died at birth and Heidi's on the phone praying with kids in Africa just felt the shift in the room in the hospital I mean we've been surrounded by the best of the best to even just exist in LA so I'm like well everyone needs someone you know you can't do this alone and so that would be our second point is yeah I mean you guys we have honest so many people there's so many people we have would have to honor to get to this place to even start the school and do the stuff all the people back in Sydney our pastors Finan is our church of Jubilee in Sydney and our community and and we're kind of expression 58 now and we've watched how Sean and Sri bowls and Jenin hona Toledo have they forged away here for people where they visits a local church here in LA yes yes it's out it's a church and and even right back in Sydney out we would just see three church Pasteur's there were really amazing as well and there was profit there could Aaron Seymour he married and Joe and they really spoke into our lives and this is probably I would be mentored by your mother like and these prophetic and these prophetic women like we've got Laurie Laurie sy and JJ here but we had our Laurie so we had we had um Deb and petrina yeah then Sidney when people of God will keep you when nothing else and the Salvation Army Rose impaired malls in a Salvation Army where we were serving with them oh it's just yeah it's and that's what's in us now is thank everybody that's what and that's what's so important about what's happening right now is that everyone coming here even you guys who are gonna come to this next school this next life a pair of you coming you it's your journey is like gonna be built into you but everyone around is here now yeah it's only together that we Jewish as we say in 40 years are we together yes we're together yes that's a real catchphrase and iris from our main base in Mozambique fed um yeah it's definitely been the relationships that God has given us a covenant relationships people that have not bailed on us while we've gone through our purification process and it's knowing that we are here and and we're not for sale that our alcohol is not fair whether we're not fair whether it's a of your dad is actually given us a lot of courage in this area because yes he has such a great theology around suffering it's suffering and joy I mean your mum says it the cup of suffering and joy and had we not come into the covering of iris and been running with iris maybe we also wouldn't have made it because it's been that theology of it's not just easy and and just promotion and just favor and doors opening and success there is a cup of suffering and joy you have to be prepared to drink and David drunk at Joseph's drunkenness to drunk it yeah Daniel drunken you know like there is Jesus drunk at the most women and I'll be there within the garden of gethsemane remember where to the garlic is all Israel connection to this party we haven't even podcast yeah we first got it Sue Sylvester II clay banks I've made you a studio cake you can too clay she do like and then go in vanora coming along time yeah there's so many people that are poured into this yeah absolutely and that's why it's so rich that's what so much because it's not how school it's God school yeah and and even though God's called us to lead it it's a school it's been a huge huge breakthrough for students and part of their lives this school and stay in LA and still have community and people yeah and so you can see the impact that that revelation has had through the school and their students who stay and move to LA and yeah the difference between that and being plugged in and coming to LA on your own it's like Craig Phillips in Australia you know I live and breathe Brett styling back in Australia that's why still supports like private school Brett is one of their interfaces in Sydney pray for the school over here you know and Craig has supported us for so many years show up to these guys like that's we are who we are because of these people that invest in us and loved us and still pour into us I just want to say what we're calling out people I think I think that coming back to whoever started you know Nathan are very blessed to be from really rich amazing families and I believe the foundation of my life and I mean my dad's such a man a character and the word and of the spirit and my mom they're just incredible disciples followers of Jesus and and Nathan's family too and or you know when you have that grid of what healthy family looks like his family can be a scary term for those that family when family has been in parents who are actually invested in you you know but we we've been very blessed to have a grid for family that it doesn't look perfect it's you know my family's messy needs family's messy it like we have our mess but we have been we've had a great model for what family is supposed to look like and with God at the center - yes with God and and so I feel like we've been very blessed to be able to we can easily see how that becomes almost the undergirding or the net that's abled that you're able to be launched into whatever he's called you to do from you know and I you know that's the thing I'll go to here and they'll just really the last shout out for my family my mom and my dad my dad constantly women pray with me and brought me into faith mom and dad dad and my brothers when I was at university my brother John I'd have no money my brother John and bamhi staff feel it would call me up Simon with such as rock in my life my brother Solomon my sister Joanne yes if you're asking I would like to present this to you black Oscar bar well done they've been still passionate about acting yes I'm selecting yeah trying with clay few years and I'm trying with Diane and I'm still in there and I really I feel like yeah I'm still gonna say it on my stage before kids production yes right after and crystallins amazing actress as well so we are gonna see some crazy princess once we get out by be zettabyte we're gonna actually on stage maybe that's the way our babies aren't my favorite thing in life just out of the way like no I'm not the nappies out of the way to be on stage I'm gonna ask a few final questions okay favorite movie go Oh Braveheart right on yours too yeah it's been a favorite for Emma Sarah I didn't know that was yours too though I just have never changed it it's just my favorite one time 1995 I am very swift the Oscars well it was notion of accessorize as well Mel Mel Gibson if you ever watch this shout out to you yeah the inspiration in my life great that could be response a buret sound favorite sound boy starting to talk of them for parents it sounded me checking um okay I'll give you a special back oh oh gee re I really checked on that one um mmm definitely the sound of our boys vanilla scent coffee laughter of our 17 month-old right now he's oh my gosh I seriously think I'm just in heaven children are a reward from the Lord do not delay having babies people there isn't a greater crown in this life you actually understand three family gets drunk on on newborns and stuff we all like babies we have three boys we love them very much but I think we're done here right now I'm probably best sound music and about boys easy yeah very easy as a parent yeah if you could pursue another profession what would it be Wow I think I'd like to be a pro surfer me too my wife loves the beach and I wish I could you kidding wish I could master that surfboard oh my gosh it's been your mouth cavity prophetic blue eyes you Nathan you don't just bring your real surf that's a good one so yeah I would really love to master surfboard and really to be able to do that after you get out you catch some waves no it's not to like ever too late processing locally okay oh this is random but it's probably because I went to SeaWorld yesterday but I probably would have been a dolphin trainer oh yes Raven lucky if I can go was far from my ankle Paulette while say actress because I'm yeah i could say actress because it's not my profession but to go far from my current life i would have to say dolphin trainer i'm swatching the dolphin chow I only cry it's like I can't believe it I can't believe all those people get paid to do it's just well I think a lot of them volunteers that's what I'm doing that in heaven Jesus so you know I'm riding the Dolphins mmm playing once maybe all kinds of ones yeah I don't know if that's a thing um well the walkers gosh okay this point finally in terms of what you're most excited about coming up it's the school I imagine yes yes true yes um so we are calling filmmakers actors artists if you're a visual artist painter we've brand-new track and musicians yep Roger this school is a life-changing experience it is amazing check it out on the website yeah these are your favor long yeah and I want to pray I want to pray can I pray for anyone in about the school yeah right now in the name of Jesus and I just I just shout out to you guys if you're thinking about coming or you know someone that you think should come and you want to send them the link or whatever you think it would be great for them it's if you know it's their calling and you know it's their destiny to to glorify God with their gifts in these in these artistic disciplines that in the name of Jesus I just release the Grace and the faith I speak faith faith faith against all odds that you will just submit an application and apply and see what happens see what miracles we have crazy miracles every year about how people get to the school and and what happens but just trust God and go by faith because it pleases God the only thing faith working itself out three love is it only thing that pleases God well so please go out and have faith whoa and I just released for you that to step out step up and step out and believe that your called and it's your destiny whoa yeah Jesus name yeah yeah courage to chase your your god-given dream and destiny that's been divinely placed inside of you yeah who might be with us with our crew yeah and here in Los Angeles we would love to have you i la fam comm for more information you can also get there at the iris global site click on schools and Los Angeles and find the page and thank you to all of our listeners if you have comments questions you'd like to ask future guests leave them in the comment section subscribe subscribe almost at 10,000 followers yes subscribers on YouTube channel yep otoscope so help us get there subscribe on Apple little podcast or wherever you get your podcast and until next time iris after hours thank you guys Thank You Christy this podcast is presented by Iris global for more information or to support the work of iris global please visit us online at iris global org you can also text to give simply text the amount you'd like to donate to five three 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