Iris After Hours - Episode 44 - Surprise "Surpresa" Sithole

welcome to iris after hours casual conversations with inspirational speakers off the clock hi welcome again to iris after hours we are here still in pemba mozambique with two of the greats the absolute grace my own biological father roland baker if you can't believe we have a connection yes and our hero supresa this man of faith has been doing ministry starting churches seeing amazing miracles since before we even got here he's been a friend a family member since the very beginning of iris he's my claim to thing yes yes he really is if you haven't read his book read it yeah what's your book called voice of the night voice in the night pretty amazing yeah it's something you've seen yeah whose voice was that it was the voice of god it was a god oh yeah so that makes the book more important yeah because it came in the middle of the night my dad calls you depression challenge yeah yeah why are you so happy all the time yeah well what's your problem i'm happy all the time because life is a present so we have a short amount of to live so we have to enjoy it so much so the way i do it number one is always i fight for my joy and number two whatever comes like it is trying to strangle my life i count it as a joke so it's a joke yeah it's nothing yeah nothing is permanent anyway it's gonna pass so therefore that could not take your joy away so you you laugh at the devil a lot oh yeah the more i laugh at the devil the more you find them humorous you just entertaining to laugh at him yeah so much no matter what he does is it can't affect much okay you got to understand in our early days in iris we had two rules yes number one keep your eye on jesus and the other is have fun okay but suppressor here has boiled it down to one one commandment yeah you know it's not optional this is a commandment yes you must enjoy life enjoy your life so you stand by that i still stand on that enjoy life yes all right somebody out there might have questions about that yes so um i asked suppressor once were you always like this well sometimes before i wasn't like this because there was a lot of people telling you say you must not laugh you must not you have to behave here and so minimize laughing this is serious that's not appropriate for church yeah yeah these are christians yeah so these are the christians stay serious and the people gonna respect yourself no i actually don't need much of the respect from people careful careful yeah so much and the more i was enjoying life and be much happy is the moment that the devil was so much afraid of me but i remember when i asked you this years ago you said oh no i was not always like this yeah um it had to do with your wife you remember that yes okay you can explain what changed oh what changed actually is that today i was critical as everybody else i was more judgmental as everybody else and but another time i got this vision that i had in the middle of the night and say do not criticize your wife so from today i'm giving you four things that you have to live with do not criticize number one do not argue number two love hair number three and stay happy this was about your marriage yes yes yes yes four things i love that that i was given to nautically decide to not argue love her and stay happy what's there left to talk about that's awesome that's amazing and how did you two meet i think we meet actually in uh in the beginning of the time where we had a good chat was in in 1998. was it in 1980 january of 1998 we took a little trip january of 98 is where we really had a good time together because our cars sink into the muddy we get together yes yes yes and then we dig the car together and so we yeah double cab little pickup truck we would stuff pastors in the back you know six or eight there's a little pickup truck in the back and we just took off into the bush and you know the pastors would say you know we were facing tall grass in a single person pathway walkway and the pastors would say oh let's keep going you have 4x4 no problem yes we're tooling through the tall grass can't see where we're going you know and we're here and we're really having fun hitting rivers and you know quicksand and we get lost in the marsh in the swamps in the middle of the night three in the morning we had no gps no phones no lights no flashlights no nothing had no clue where the nearest village was and this car would be sinking into the mud and tipping over and water up to the windows and we're thinking we'll never get this car out and we may never get us out but you had fun anyway 12 o'clock in the morning we were still searching where we left the car when the car can't go anymore then we start on foot you know and then it gets really interesting and we had in those days no lights no batteries no nothing we're in little huts praying we're feeling in the dark for heads to pray for it you know wow really a little tiny oil lamp in the corner with a slight glow and we can't see anybody and we're just feeling for people oh you care but you made it to the village that is in the next village okay and then this is the middle of the night we were totally lost one time and we found a shepherd that said oh you just go down here and turn right at the mango tree and you'll end up somewhere near a village you know so and that was the moment actually engaged very close that's those churches but they were actually churches you started before we got to those times tell us about that when did you start those oh well those i started actually before i just knew of the bible i didn't experience apparently we had so much churches that time when we didn't know what was happening and then now as we know what is happening so easier to start churches when you don't know what's happening the result was more even greater your book says you didn't know anything about john 3 16 in your funny first years only on only even in malawi's john 3 16 john 3 16 and john 3 16 is on invest that maybe i can say for many years and that's when you were starting churches yeah already yes wow for many years when john 3 16. but you have to go to bible school first no no no later on apparently not who gave you permission to go out and start churches when you're only 15 and you have actually no bible school you were only 15. i was 115 years yeah so you knew john 3 16 you started going out yes then i was just going out and telling the people about john 3 16 john 3 16 and many people they were just so much responding to john 3 16 coming to jesus to john 3 16. actually most of the churches we hand over them to assemblers of god even in malawi there is a lot of churches that are handed over to the asylum but still we didn't know what was happening and that group of people gathered together didn't know it too if it was a church so as a group of people wow yeah and how did you get saved i know it's a great story people want to hear it though it's amazing so how it happened since i will go back to the voice in the night anyway and when i was 15 and it was 82 our there was a loud voice was calling surpriser walk up leave your village if you don't live you're gonna die wait a minute i have a question isn't god's voice still and small well to others is just whispering to others is so loud and because that time i was untrained it was too loud to me well i just want to know do you have to go to school to learn how to hear the voice of god or how did you learn to hear well he he speaks quietly uh if he's spoken with a donkey and yeah the donkey spoke and even the tree what seems like was speaking the time of moses three scrapped their hands everything so think things like that but there was nobody that told me how to hear his voice so you think he can just speak to anybody he wants so much yes he can still even now right now he's speaking baby speaking through us so the listeners and the viewers they have to hear god while we're talking yes wow so you heard it like a loud voice very loud leave your leave your village if you don't do you're gonna die you told me it shut you the bed it was yeah the second time it was shooking what's into bed actually was met shooking the mat wake up leave your village i couldn't resist but one thing that i did was like a mistake was i didn't say goodbye to my parents not my mother and my father they were sleeping and other people normally they don't sleep too much they don't oversleep so what was your your parents job what was their career there oh their career was witch doctors yes apparently like a witch doctors they could not even have so much weight if they heard that you were leaving because you heard god they might be it might have been a little yeah yeah i don't think that they could they could accept me to go out because even when in the village deep deep deep in the jungle when they close the door it's not actually the door like this is the door made by leads from the river yeah they put it very nice and then they put a stick inside so that is the the door and then after they close the door there is a stick on this side stick on this side to cross over other sticks so that other animals wild animals like leopard could not push and come in and eat the people yeah most neighborhoods and don't have that problem they do but then when you wake up early in the morning you you pull you pull those sticks the baby three four five sticks to secure the door so you pull them on the side you pull them on the side you pull on the side after pull all those big huge sticks outside and then is when you open the door but still they were sleeping so when you hear that voice or are you asking who are you you know i didn't ask anybody but because what i knew was there was a spirit that could speak yeah yeah they my mother was used to tell to tell me that the spirit speaks speaks with the bird speaks with this that is what we knew that the spirit speaks and my father always he was saying one thing that i still remember now he say chest the sun before the sun leaves you which is this sunrise chase the sun before the sun leaves you so that is the way that my father's soul he meant that you have to wake during the day before it's late at night so that's why he was saying chest to the side before the sun leaves you chest the sun before the sun leaves you every day that way it was like clinging into my mind yeah yeah so wake up and said okay the spirit is spoke i have to go out yeah no goodbye to my parents i left i went to the house of my friend gaffari i told him the story he said i'm going with you wherever you go yeah and our conversation also his parents were still in the house they didn't hear our conversation and he woke up because i was at his window the window is just a small time like this that you communicate so we went we started walking walking going that is in murumbala day we started walking towards like we were going to murumba town and then we got lost then we were just going in the grass like that we were looking for the pet we couldn't see it so how many days were you walking right there we walked the sun rose and went down sunrose it was many suns many nights and at night you hated mcdonald's there was no mcdonald's actually there is a root in the jungle because we are hunting that time and then this root you when you cut the root provides water and then we didn't have a knife that root we cut it with the teeth and then when we managed to cut the roots they would provide the world i drink and my friend also drink that is how we are living but in some how we were finding the like a wild banana and the monkeys they didn't see the one but it was like it was kept for us saved free it's ripe and so on we could eat and like we call it arthas is the others are the wild berries that we were eating there in the bush two weeks we spend there in the bush but i learned something from you go ahead i learned that bugs are good there's all kinds of good bugs but you really want to avoid yellow locusts because they really smell so yeah if you have deep [Music] but many are good to eat oh they're many they are nice to eat they are amazing when you cook them well so you're starting churches and you're an apostle and tell us about your apostle accommodations i want to hear why did you have to leave the village what happened what happened after that yeah what happened after that and then after two weeks we appear in other province yeah we have been found in the area called villanova so today when i look at the map it is impossible it's across the other side of a river is the other side of the people they didn't cross any river we didn't cross any river wow that is still a mystery even you can check on the map villanova is other side of all the rivers it isn't it wow so it's the other side of malawi you had to go across malawi yes he's just so glad you get across the country without crossing your country yeah and even though if we could walk like that only way we could go via zambia and you can't buy food you can't do that so i know that god was on the process of the whole thing so in villanova there was a man his name was lucas he had a dream to go to one of the tree that he when he got to that tree there he will meet the young people he has to take them into his house great the following day he did he had his head really hate i don't know what type of head so we came to that tree we meet this man very tall elder man and then he said oh yeah let's go to my house i've been waiting for you we went to the mr lucas house when we arrived there so he didn't ask us the questions the first day the rashes the water to drink to wash because we were smelling two weeks without shower and that you didn't need any perfume or even we if we had how we should buy it i didn't even know that in the world there is a perfume anyway within our own natural so and then the following day we were sitting in this small chair on the grass meat he was sitting on the small chair his wife cooked the sweet potato with water we were drinking and then the guy started asking questions guys where are you going and where are you from we said we don't know where we are going but one thing we're coming such an exciting village we told him the name of the village okay but let me tell you do you know the creation how what are you talking about now the men started telling us about the creation about gold about jesus he was talking while we're listening we're eating sweet potato while we're listening he's talking talking suddenly i was caught up in vision what was the vision the vision i was standing on the edge like this and i'm right before the hell and i was just started crying i had a put sweet potato in my hand i couldn't see i started crying very valid i'm crying and then when he started touching my shoulder he said no no no don't cry don't cry as long as you leave you have a hope so then i came to my sense is that what as long as you leave and then the vision is almost lucky disappeared as long as you live you have a hope i say what is my hope say your hope is to give your life to jesus right now how could you figure that out what was all about giving life to jesus and how you someone can give life to jesus and so yeah you've never heard it yeah i never heard it for the first time everything was strange so he said no no it's a simple prayer i will pray you follow my prayer okay so my jesus my jesus i give my life to you i give my life to you and so on and so on when we finish i find out like i was wearing something going all over my body like something one hit like those thieves when they go still they put the head in like that that comes in it was like covering yeah lit was like the whole mic board was covered all the way after finished pray it was like that cloth it was lifted up without hate hey i felt such a strange atmosphere it's almost like a what was covering me the whole body is lifted up it was taken off oh yeah i looked to gaffari gaffari you say yes did you pray the prayer he said yes what did you feel say yeah yeah yeah i feel it's good it's fine but maybe he didn't feel what i felt so i felt that happiness that is how i gave my life to jesus wow you asked for it yeah did you explain to him the voice you heard in the night i later on i explained to the voice and we said this is what had happened say yeah that is god was calling you because god wants to use you we stayed two weeks in the house of mr luca helping the work we went to his field and so on we come back to you and then still i'm i'm stationed so and then that week that the same week there was a fisherman's going to malawi to sell their fish they brought the news so the week i left home my family got killed poisoned by the bile of crocodile poisoned yes by the bite of crocodile they killed the crocodile they're taking the bile the bite is very poisonous didn't you get warned that if you didn't leave the house that you would be dead in a week or so yes yes yes yes and god knew what was coming someone poisoned them with the pile of the pile of crocodiles so if you had not left obey the voice you would have died in a week my mother my father and my sister was they ate the food that died and that was the warning he got there that was the warning that i got and from that day today i'm almost 48 i'm all for the eight years old i've never put my feet back to that village so in 2005 we were having a crusade in murumbala which i saw a lot of people from the village they came and most of them they gave their life to jesus it's when we were heavily anybody remember you oh yeah a lot of people they remember me yeah so we had such an amazing time amazing okay in this day of apostolic prosperity and the blessing and everything uh yeah you spent the first few years ministering sleeping in the grass right yes yes yes what was that like how long did that last well we in the grass sometimes was in the grass sometimes even without grass like this do you still have those pictures yes i still have pictures we were in one village it was makuba or somewhere further north in the woods it was cold yeah yeah it was cold yes and you know we there's just the two of three of us gisha bro yes yes yes but it's cold so the pastors took all the huts yes and we visitors were left out on the grass mountains outside it was so cold we rolled up in the grass map you try to get warm and you just i woke up every 20 minutes to run around trying to get no tents no sleeping bags no nothing that we have now you know that was cool it was amazing it was amazing we crossed rivers you know they tried to carry me on their shoulders you know i said what for you know we yes a lot of parts that they come they say no no no papa roland must not walk in these swamps there is a lot of leeches and i could come and tell himself the people they are offering to say no no no tell them anyone want to kill them i didn't come here to be carried i came here to carry them that was good bring on the legion so we rode canoes we hiked and hiked and hiked after the car the truck wouldn't go anymore yeah yeah yeah and so that's when we realized we needed an airplane when we came to that appointee that's why you like to fly when we came to that point of sleeping on the grass mate i said to gishev pyroland is running and so on and said you see now there is a lot of people outside there just sleeping in the holiday inn we are privileged we are sleeping in a holiday house yes holiday out yeah yeah it's like it's not a five star stop hotel it took me a week just to clean off all the mud and everything from that trip you know just get it all out of the undercarriage and the suspension and everything just got home and heidi said you know we need an airplane and she prophesied you're going to get an airplane three days later i got an email that said the money's in the bank go buy one so i went and bought one and so we had an airplane so yeah it's very simple you see yeah how to get airplanes yeah awesome and they really after the aeroplane the thing was much easier that's much not as many later much smoother than no many religions and we could run faster and quickly and so on the gen was taking us many days we could do it one day a few hours it takes weeks to get to some of these places and it takes more weeks to clean up your car and fix it afterwards and a few of those trips and your car is done yeah it's true so that was the beginning of iris ministries you have to read the book you just have to read it yeah and all that god's saying yeah sure if hollywood ever made a movie of that book you would you would give it amazing it would be so much more exciting i'm praying that they will read some posts some of that book and make a move it's gonna be great it's gonna be an excellent movie so we will be flying in our little cessna yeah remember we're flying to tanzania kenya and we were praying for god to protect us and keep his hand under us and so what did you see in the air suddenly the whole airplane it was covered in rainbow circulated in a rainbow and a rainbow in a rainbow and the hand came down and you hold the aeroplane like this all rest the flight it's the whole rest of the flight god's holding the plane was something wrong with the plane nope nope just played for safety the presence of god just holding the plane like this all the way to nairobi that's awesome it was amazing then we fly the congo yeah we have no permit we have no visa we landed a military field that had never seen a civilian plane in years and we just land anyway and all these soldiers are screaming and yelling and rocket launchers and so we happen to have a pastor you know from town i think the only reason we're really alive today is this pastor knew the mayor and the governor and you know and we and so we need a visa who can give a visa there's no government office around so some local general just you know he's sitting in a tent with a table and absolutely nothing else he writes out something on a piece of paper and then the the next place we get to the the limit is ticking the next general says what's this you know amazing yeah you saw a lot of amazing things happen in congo yeah we did oh have you ever heard worship like we heard no no no that was intense now the thing is in congo we were in the northeast corner of congo yeah around lake kibu which is right next to rwanda so the hutu rebels that came out of the massacre in nineteen is it nineteen ninety four minute four yeah uh all came over to that corner in this beautiful land it's high altitude it's like switzerland it's beautiful right lakes lake amazing and full of minerals and very you know fertile and so everybody's fighting over the land and no law in order yeah a lot of greedy hungry desperate soldiers and so it became the rape and atrocity and you name it capital of the world in fact more people i read have been killed in congo from war-related reasons than any other any other place in the world eight million people that was ten wow ten fifteen years ago it's still happening though yeah so it's still happening you cnn uh just listed congo as the world's most dangerous country really right now they're not granting visas you know so eight million people that's more people than have been killed in wars yeah all the war is all put together since world war ii but that's where you've heard the most intense worship yeah the most intense worship remember i was i had a big mostly 100 people actually had a big old video camera yeah they were tape tape barely yeah i had this big camera praying for people with the other hand yeah but everybody when you preach every woman you preach to has been mutilated and horrible of atrocities um done too that i can't talk about it it's just beyond just beyond beyond what you can talk about in a in a group but jesus meant so much to them he's literally all they have that's it their husbands have left them they're full of disease they're mutilated for life they're no jobs no they're starving jesus is literally all they have and out of that remember that singer yes that that one lady singer she was so incredible if she ever was in the west and recorded she'd just be so famous so much wow that was intense i think if we could snatch it out of the country also she was seeing she just vibrated with power and electricity and tears and passion and emotion and wow in worship in worship in worship and these guys they had they made like any tree i don't know what they make the tree themselves and making guitars and like how amazing they make gum sets out of whatever yeah it was such a beautiful oh they had baptisms in the big beautiful lake and but yeah the worship there was just it makes me wonder how people can feel that way about jesus unless he really is all they have left yeah yeah yeah if he's just one more nice thing about life and one more thing you can do this week that's one thing but when he is literally all you have left something different happens something much much different so yeah congo and sudan are that's true so we went to sudan i did suppressor came later yeah tell us about that second visit when the riots came down the streets oh that was intense and so most of the stuff is intense yeah it's gonna say everything so i went to sudan that was the early early 2005 somewhere yeah maybe i would have to see my check my passport again so when i arrived then from then we i get into the bus public bus going to my refugee camp at that time they had huge refugee camps from south sudan yeah like half a million people in one camp so then after we finished now i'm taking off going back to katu on the public bus with the gems what's with me and there's only one hotel that will take foreigners on this agricultural hotel great in the middle but just like last night they killed james scott johnny karanga he was a vice pro he was supposed to be a vice president or something like that from the south yeah so they killed him on the helicopter crash august so we didn't know and then as we are going to cut home on the public bus in the halfway there was a riot the southerners are killing northerners the northerners are killing the southerners that was waste of my life ways of my life great soldier drivers everybody out we are jumping out some coming from the weed then we are running so as i was running towards this side there was huge this group of southern southern sudanese they are walking towards this site and then i'm running backwards going to other direction when i arrive other direction where i appeared there was no chance for me to reverse there we are all the northern sudanese that we are here so you're between the two i'm between the two not a good place not a good place and they are chopping people killing people i closed the eyes while i was holding my big bible i was traveling that time with a big bible not small bible you need a big bible in that situation you know in certain countries you you want to take a big bible yeah big bible i close my eyes i'm running straight towards the northern sudanese people and here there is a different light scheme the southern sudanese they're very dark in life ski northern sudanese they have a lighter ski more arabic more like arabic so i'm just in between all those things i'm running and there was nothing what i was expecting i was expecting baby to hear my shady on my neck or the steer on my rib that is only what was left it was too much so as i was running running running running i'm not feeling anything yet i'm running i'm running i'm running with the eyes closed when i opened my eyes i was already downtown cartoon at a couple hotel standing transportation hey how did it happen i look acropolis hotel exactly at the right spot wow hey hey i don't know into a northern sudanese yeah yes rebel grove expecting to go to heaven right now expecting to go to heaven right away wow yeah i'm in aquaphor hotel i was completely overwhelmed i don't know i have to laugh i have to cry i have to do what i don't know and then i called parole and i think he was in california that time i don't know when we managed to speak yeah i said parallel and i was dead i was i was dead i was dead wow yeah so that night i managed to fly from catholic even the way to fly you can't take off like this you take awful street like this like like a missile to avoid the rocket rocket launcher yes that time this was intense that's intense yeah so i i got some training and avoiding infrared missiles from the ground and all from my combat co-pilot friends in the air force yeah the crazy yeah you know you got to go straight at the enemy fighter or missile and just turn at the last second so it can't make a sharp turn to get you oh i see some things to do yeah it's lying in the goma you know in congo i haven't i have an air force south african pilot yeah the big c-130 hercules he says don't worry papa rolling just follow me i'll come down low over the lake way below the the altitude they need for the to use their rocket launchers you know just stay right behind my tail and we'll just skim the lake and come into the international airport and you'll be okay and you were okay wow that is intense yeah if you want to come to goma and yeah you've seen all kinds of miracles yeah a lot of miracles yes over the years you've seen the dead raised yes incredible can you tell me just recently you were at a hospital can you just recently me and my wife went to the hospital and went to pray for one lady while we were praying for him we saw we look across the bed the the lady that was getting panic the panic of death anywhere she was so while my wife was running to go to look for the nurses i ran into look to take care of that lady when i arrived there i used to mine to see what's happening there was no life i said no no no no come back come back come back i didn't even pray like a father please help us and to raise this lady and so on if you wouldn't mind so i just forbidden not to go away i said come back come back come back to this body complete now come back now come back now come back now that was only the prayer and then she came back how yeah so when she came back he said you are not going anywhere you have to live in this body tomorrow morning we are coming here and when we come here you we have to find you in this body that was only prayer that we pray great we went to home the next day i didn't go my wife went there and then she was 100 to 5 she was going with my wife praying for other ladies wow and then my wife gave her 20 grand to go home when she was discharged yes so god is good i should i should try that on heidi you know because years ago she she would have such great visions of heaven she just want to go to heaven you know and i need to tell her you're not going anywhere stay here you're not going to come yeah she's mellowed out now there's one story one but i think illustrates the gospel and all kinds of things plus power plus everything that's frenzy story yeah the francis story is amazing can you say that oh well the francis story i think was in 2007 when uh when we were having a youth conference wise what we do and then the middle of the night was created the service is finished so he was in charge of where the ladies were sleeping where the men were sleeping and all kind of that he was in charge for that great i left me and betty we went back to to the house right the rebels came and finally between the two gates came and started beating him and started killing him well we called the police the police didn't come it's in the township right right very dangerous the police didn't come then they called me we called the military the military came when the military came they found the body of francie they ripped off everything is there the tech he's dead it's that yes they take the body of francie to the moog and then in mugu there while they were bringing in the morning another body they find now that in the body bag the body bag is like there is a life inside moving in the body there yes so this very moving story they crying while the group would they at the whole community hold this pray we will be praying and declare forgiveness to the the those guy rebels we can call the rebels i don't know so we were based declaring forgiveness but when the military came to take his body that night they caught one guy of those guys that we are aware they caught one of the guys that had done that to him he killed him they killed him yeah the guy that killed him so they took the guy to the police that night he's there the police and now france to the mock the next morning everything came together now eight in the morning six o'clock me and my wife when he was already put into the hospital we went today to the hospital we find he's this not big guy but we find the body was swollen like this all swollen up from the beating yeah all swollen eyes everything we put like this so we prayed for him after we finished praying we went back to the meeting two o'clock well at some point did friends you say forgive them yes yes yes he was speaking he said you know i forgive them completely i forgive them completely but now two o'clock the doctor calls me say please can you come to get this man because we don't see anything wrong two o'clock sunday one sunday nobody is released nobody in my number everything was strange and while the police was calling us to go to right statement yeah of the how the man was dead yeah the police is calling the hospital is calling i said to pastor mabilla let's go and we drove the meat we went today to the hospital we find francie now it seems like he's coming beautiful young man not like nothing in the desert like he'd never been hit lucky was never been beaten nothing had happened hey hey what is this but now it doesn't have the clothes on you had to go shopping for clothes yeah so i said to customers 200 this man take the car go to the to the road today there is a some people from in pakistan i don't know this guy that they sell things on the market go and buy him t-shirt in the trousers so he ran in and bought him to t-shirt in the trousers abroad and he put the new clothes on we said let's go to the police now to release the guy well they were upset the police rep said they would not press charge so much upset we've been calling you since this morning to come to write a statement called to write a case number and you didn't come here to open docket why we say no no no no the why is that the person being killed is this man here that has been killed they were mad you didn't press charges for killing somebody who's actually not dead anymore not dead anymore yeah that's hard the police what what are you talking about the military themselves the military was here last night and they brought his car and said they killed someone is this man here this is so strange and then france we say you speak he said i need that men to that i can release him i forgive him completely the man who'd been killed said to the men who killed him yeah the police is here the men that killed the france his other side so he's tight here yeah inside here he's sitting down on the other side of count we are on the side so i say i need that man i will i want to just forgive him completely the police say no no no this is so strange where we're talking talking calling each other and so on then they brought a document for us to sign yeah so we signed the document and then after we sign in like affidavit that the man is free of charge so the untied the many came the men fell down france said my friend i forgive you with all my heart forgive you with all my heart the man was crying my father what can i do now so we say no one thing that you can do we will lead you to the lord and then francis said france you lead him to the lord and then francis say with me my jesus my jesus wow the man who killed him yes yes yes well he heard other people know which we didn't find them yeah so it finished then amazing but now he's working in jobic yes yeah wow but that's not the end of the story just a little while later easter sunday heidi and i were invited to speak yes in the church on easter sunday and i think franzia was getting married that yesterday yes yes so we're talking about the resurrection and the life and my illustration is sitting there on the platform with me about to get married the man had been killed yeah he was there about to get married yeah on resurrection wow yes sorry that happened so that happened yes so stories like this keep you encouraged when things are not so and we don't have anything to look back for so we have much to look forward for so that's a good point the bible says forget what lies behind press forward to what lies ahead why do you think it says that i mean even that is wonderful even the chickens the chickens i loved watching the chickens when you open the chicken house all the chicken will run forward they enjoy their freedom [Laughter] when they reach far away from the chicken house they face the thing before they eat they stretch themselves they spit i'm free they start looking down to eat and then they see the food even there is plenty of food started putting down backwards their food and putting back putting putting back putting back and eat a little bit a lot putting back putting they want to go back they will continue going forward so it's wonderful so we could learn from chicken keep going forward keep going doesn't matter let me eat oh gosh [Music] we need many more podcasts with you we could listen to so many stories we're so inspired by you thank you thank you so much it has been wonderful yeah having a great time you are our hero okay so fight for your joy fight for your joy yes fight for your joy thank you to all who are listening to iris after hours and until next time this podcast is presented by iris global for more information or to 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Channel: Iris Global

Views: 16,911

Rating: 4.9052629 out of 5

Keywords: Iris After Hours, Podcast, Iris Global, Heidi Baker, Rolland Baker, Nathan Kotzur, Crystalyn Human, Christian, Missions, Iris Ministries, NGO, Free, Encouraging, Inspiring, Testimony, Stop for the One, Africa, Surpresa, Sithole

Id: 5AyLSRjPS_o

Length: 50min 21sec (3021 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 23 2017