Iris After Hours - Episode 20 - Brian “Head” Welch

welcome to iris after hours casual conversations with inspirational speakers off the clock well well well well welcome back to iris after hours what's that here we are what was what sorry well well well welcome well welcome i'm sorry i liked it did you like it yeah try it again no we've already done it but guys we have got a really amazing guest today and we're full of the power of the holy spirit because this guy has got god all over him and we're picking it up in the room and it's none other than rockstar and dad himself brian welsh brian thank you so much that's a sign right there the holy spirit just blew in here come on come on okay your nickname's head yes where does that come from well when i was 13 i went through puberty like we all do and um my head grew a few inches and my body stayed the same for like a year so all the kids are like yeah look at the big head it's horrible right that's pretty sad why are you laughing that's what they did it's so sad well it mustn't be too bad because you still use that yeah now no it was uh so i'm figuring you must be healed from that yeah it was pretty bad though when i was a kid but then when we when we started this rock band in la california um in the early 90s we were like one of the guys is like we need nicknames and i was like what do i call myself you said then they used to call your head and i was like oh yeah okay i'll go with that oh so it's a sanctified version it sanctified it after all those years that really is deuteronomy 28 13 the lord made you the head and not the tail that is incredibly redemptive oh my gosh i always assumed your band came up with that but it's actually a better story wow sorry i'm just having a moment here just that's really cool because as i was looking at stuff redemption even yeah yeah that and i knew that story and that that redemption of deuteronomy 28 13 whoa i love it i got it one day i was like yep that's going on my palm gosh brian this must be i mean this is the whole this is the theme in your life redemption like yeah it's like it's not a mistake that i think that's the first thing we touched on just in this interview this podcast um just for everybody out there that's listening like you you were in one of the probably one of the most successful uh bands i mean well at least metal bands ever hey like that's the level of success you had in the world just so people know is pretty phenomenal and the crazy journey you had i mean i like just to recapture that a little bit some journey and then cut to now on what's happening with god and you now okay but do you want for people who don't haven't heard of you or know anything about you what what what has your journey been with with the band well um we're in l.a los angeles california right now and so two hours north of here is where i grew up and all the guys that are in my band now most of them grew up there too and uh we just went to school like normal kids um actually i i was born in harbor city outside of la and my dad got a um my mom and dad got an opportunity to go in business with my uncle for chevron corporation so they opened up a big truck stop in bakersfield and they moved us there and we were like we lived five minutes from the beach so they were like we're going to move to a desert town and we're like they said we have a our new house has a pool and a diving board and a slide on it and we're like okay so it was pretty quick and so we moved there in fourth grade um i started playing guitar fifth grade when i got ac dc back in black that album um it's pretty famous for fifth grade yes um aussie band mate who australian oh yeah i see we call it academy yes have you ever heard of that that is something that's really cool icdc wow so yeah once i heard uh just heard about angus young just banging his head all over the stage i was like i want to do that for my career come on the guitarist like angus young's the guitar yeah and so i started playing guitar fifth uh fifth grade and you're pretty young when you got into music and but i was learning songs that's when mtv came out and i remember when mtv like we got the signal in our house because i heard about it and i saw it in l.a i had i have relatives here and they had it la got it first so in bakersfield it came a few months later and when i clicked that button on channel i think it was 21 on the little box and the signal came and i saw music videos i danced around the house for like 30 minutes i was just like worshiping mtv like wow so what are we talking about like 1980 whenever it was whenever we were born yeah it was around 18 11 80 81 somewhere in there yeah and so i was learning i would i had a good ear so i'd learn the songs like on on mtv some of the riffs i've learned like pat benatar ariel speedwagon um tom petty you know all these different types of stuff so i loved metal i loved that are you self-taught in that way were you kind of teaching yourself i had some teachers that helped me get started but once i got the the basics i was self-taught yeah you just hear it yeah and so i just loved music any kind of music but metal was my favorite ozzy osbourne um motley crew iron maiden all those bands van halen all those bands you know everything and so that's what i did and and i i was just friends with those guys who would my my good friends who would later become corn but um i met the bass player in junior high and he was into draen duran and new wave and so i was like dude you got to get into ozzy osbourne and two years later he had long hair so i i converted him from new wave to ozzy osbourne and so he started playing bass i remember he played guitar when i when i first saw him in high school like we parted ways he went to a different high school and then i i grouped up with him and i heard him play guitar and i was like he's not that good so i got him playing bass so that he became a bass player when we were teenagers yeah no one yeah that's him and so the other guy monkey the other guitar player we got nicknames in the band so um i met him in in our freshman year in a hot of high school and he played acoustic guitar because he had cut the tip of his finger off in a motorcycle like in the engine or something and so yeah it was like really we call his finger land of the lost today because it's lost right here but my wife i'm feeling that now she'll get a pain in her finger that's my wife sensitive like that really yeah anything she'll feel like in her body straight like she's super prophetic wow so when uh when his doctor like you know he got it it happened and then he went to the doctor and once it healed he said you got to get your strength back so like play guitar or something so he started playing acoustic when he met me he he came over my house and heard me jam out and he was like dude i want an electric guitar so i sold in mine and that's how we got started no yeah a little monkey yeah wow so you inspired him to get into the electrical side of things from acoustic and then we got into these little teenage bands like people do growing up just kind of cheesy little bands and when we were like 17 monkey and phil d the bass player and the guitar player for corn they ended up moving when they're like 19 18 19 years old to la and started getting into like a funk like red hot chili peppers type of band funk rock and they did that and i didn't like that type of music so they kind of left me and and um so this is late 80s early 90s yeah yeah i stayed behind in bakersfield i had a girlfriend she ended up breaking up with me so i came and i moved in with reggie fieldian monkey they weren't they were reggie and james back then hopefully you could keep up with this i feel like we need to officially establish we're talking about corn yeah yes i don't know if we've officially said that but yes whereabouts where was his department whereabouts in l.a it was burbank yeah i just hung out with them and once that girl broke my heart i got suicidal and i just started drinking every day and i was their roadie so i went from inspiring them to play music to be in their roadie and so all i did was for a few years is i just like helped them set up their gear at clubs while they played and i drank and then i got sick of at after a few years i got sick of that and i ended up was going to move back home to my parents house they had the chevron yeah were you still i was like i was crying i was lost i was just like working at pizza hut and just drinking oh my gosh and so i told my friend yeah and i and i told my friends i'm gonna move back to bakersfield i'm sick of drinking i'm sick of all this and i cut off my long hair like and i look like kramer from seinfeld and and it was just not the metal haircut and right when i cut my hair off they're like man we don't want you to leave stay here and join our van and i'm like what and by that time they stopped the funk music and they got back in the metal and so i still they could remember that you were you taught them you were yeah so i got back with them we we formed the band kicked out a singer got a new singer who was still back in bakersfield and we realized we went to school with him and we formed the band yeah so also you knew jonathan so you got jonathan back from bankers here yeah we all grew up there so what happened was when we got him we formed the band corn ko backwards r in and we started playing around la hollywood orange county everywhere and we got record label attention and we got a record deal and that was the beginning of a dream slash nightmare yeah you were early 20s right and i didn't even realize you guys had that much history already yeah even leading up to that we're family man like i remember those guys come over in my house and they would we would go downstairs because my parents my mom shopped at smart and final it's like that where you can get everything buy everything in bulk yes so all my friends would come over and just totally eat my st my mom's stuff and we had a basement with an asteroids game and a pool table and actually sit down table with the flat like that the the big a game machine yeah that will you put a quarter into the joystick little triangle yeah yeah and you can press like hyperspace like no kid would last on that two seconds now because the graphics are just so true no i don't know my five-year-old um atari the original item you did yeah they got it at rite aid it's got it's like wireless but it's got all the old games like frogger and like all those all the time yeah he plays somebody loves them what does that mean no what's the what's the history behind the name corn i read something um there's different stories going around honestly it was just like we were talking to the singer and huntington beach pier which is like 45 minutes from la south um we were like hanging out we were like we need a band name what are we going to call ourselves and corn just floated around there's a couple stories i don't remember what where it came from maybe that movie there's a horror movie a lot of us were in the horror movies back then like children of the corn yeah and so the singer's like let's spell it wrong so that because he had a lot our first record was a lot of lyrics about getting bullied picked on abuse from parents or family members could be sexual or emotional or um the relationship woes so it was a lot about like he was regressing to his childhood on that first record he's like he had a song called [ __ ] and was about how they used to pick on him and call him tell him he's gay and he was a [ __ ] and all this stuff and so when he when he thought of corn he was like let's let's do the logo like a little kid's trying to spell corn and they spell it wrong backwards are okay my son's still rising my five-year-old still does because it's really real yeah so that's what kids do and so that's what that's how we got our logo and so our first record was pretty emotional actually and um it was a it was a thing of like why did why did you do this to me you know was that one issues which one was that was just a self-titled oh that's right yeah wow and and so with with that album did did you tour that those songs live as well were you playing them live or was it more of a studio album it was oh yeah okay so we we got the record deal a couple labels were looking at us and we ended up signing with um immortal records which which was with epic records and sony they were like sony epic immortal and so we went to the studio and like i said it was emotional record or singer the last song on the record is about sexual abuse and his song called daddy and the singer ended up our singer was crying for like seven minutes at the end of the track he's just then it's real he's just curled up in a ball crying and um and so it's really emotional but when we got done with that record they're like okay there's this band it sounds like nothing really out there what are we gonna do with them our first show was with no doubt gwen stefani wow yeah our very first show and we were like what are we playing with that's such an interesting pair right and then we played with like bands like offspring um we played with sublime which is a weird combination too then we went on the road and played with house of pain that song jump around they play basketball games all the time jump up jump up and get down jump jump yes and so and then we toured with them that was our first tour with house of paint and another band called biohazard and then we started getting to the metal world we got megadeth which is the guy from metallica who started his own band in megadeath it's called then we got on tour with ozzy and then we know why we went gold how was that that was my childhood no so i didn't even care that he couldn't talk i was just like aussie you rule he'd he'd rumble down the hallways and just like i'd be like ozzy have you heard ozzie try to talk he can't talk who cares i'm like you're ozzy i don't care if you speak english and i can't understand you but um so it was just like well you know a surreal moment was sharon osbourne and ozzy came to our dressing room in the middle of that tour and they said your managers told us you went gold today and we wanted to bring you champagne and to present you with a gold record or whatever they did what's gold is it uh 500 000. and that was our first record like a year into it less than a year and so you couldn't have really anticipated how successful that was going to be no but sharon you know she's the one that saved ozzy when he when he got fired from black sabbath and he was holed up in a hotel here in l.a just doing coke every day she went and found him and got him up and said you're going to go solo you're going to be big in his career just and so she looked at us and said you guys are going to go very far in the industry and she just like kind of predicted it well i almost broke prophetic voice yeah so it was fun in those days that's was the dream was unfolding it was coming true right in front of my eyes all of our eyes and that was fun but you know we started climbing up the ladder and it slowly turned into a nightmare right yeah because pro pro i don't know this is just going to be proverbs says that you know you can test metal in the crucible and all this stuff but man is tested by the price whoa whoa wow i did not yeah like i don't remember that version yeah there's it says probably you test metal with like the issue to assist like this but man is tested by praise whoa that's crazy it was just making me think did is that how it felt a bit like when you started because i know you had a very hard journey with drugs and all sorts of stuff did that come prior to that or what did that come with the success like did the success trigger some of that i tried pot when i was like eight years old and i didn't like it or didn't know how to smoke it and then i didn't do that for a while um and then i tried it again when i was like 13 and it was laced with pcp or something because all i know is i took a couple hits of it i bought it off a friend from junior high and i sat there at 2 p.m in my backyard and i was like okay i got to smoke this and then my parents gonna be home at 5 30 to go to dinner we're all going out to dinner i'm just going to get a little high first i smoked it and i looked at the clock it was 2 30. and then next time i looked at the clock it was 5 30 and it's and i was sitting there the whole time like oh my gosh and i remember i felt like flames right after i smoked i felt like flames were shooting out my arms and i just went wow and then i sat there and i looked the clock and three hours had passed so i stopped smoking pot right there i didn't like it in my 20s when i when i when i moved to la from bakersfield i started drinking a lot i told you but during those years some my one of my roommates started selling pot and another one started selling acid so i started taking acid and then um in the early years of corn we we started doing methamphetamines a little bit speed yeah and so we did that for like a year yeah and then and then when we got a record deal we kind of quit that and went on the road oh okay that's cool okay we don't want to lose our career because yeah being addicts you know so but so we switched to more alcohol and cocaine once in a while right yeah it was we were a mess you know and so that's what i never dreamt about when i was a kid being an alcoholic and fighting like temptations from drugs and stuff so it was it was a little bit it was kind of dark right off the get-go but as the years progressed it got darker yeah and so when that success started happening you got the gold album um how did it how did it progress from there we got a momentum going and so they're like after the aussie tour or whatever tour maybe we did a little one after that but they said after this touring cycle go away we want you to do a record in like two months so we went and did just to keep the the train going you know and so we went and did a record like so fast got right back out on the road that record actually entered number three on billboard and so right our second were you guys just wondering what's happening yeah how is this because we're number three on billboard but i have a toyota celica with dents all over it and i'm like wait a second so we're climbing but the money wasn't there yet and so we just we built that record and then towards the end of that record we got lollapalooza tour with like um a lot of bands around there a band called tool even devo that old man diva was on yeah he was just a big summer tour yes damn the bastard slab so uh after at the end of that touring cycle mtv started playing us in the middle of the night only though because our band was pretty loud and whatever so you shot some film clips yeah i call them video clips yeah videos in australia i caught a film website they're music videos i like that australia is better than a yeah have you been in australia oh yeah with corn yeah i've been there a few times wow i love it and i knew your accent was from australia you remember yeah he did call it didn't even tell him i'd be careful because new zealand's and if i say you're from australia to new zealand they're like yes so i i just take my time and try to listen but um so yeah we uh that record did better and then after the second record um we did it was growing and so what happened was the executives at epic records said if we put a lot of money behind these guys i think they could just skyrocket to the top top you know i mean like arenas and all that stuff so so we're talking a lot what about now this is about 95 the second album was the end of 98. i'm 90 sorry end of 97 97 okay we started writing for our new record and our new record called fall the leader came out in 98 and it went through the roof skyrocketed like we started selling 150 000 records a week when it came out oh shh and it went down did that kind of make you go or did you realize then that your sound was sort of something different yeah i've read about you guys being instrumental in establishing what new metal yeah means could you talk about that for a minute or like was that something you were realizing like oh this is unique this is something that people are connecting with so surreal to me i was like how do you remember i was dancing around my room came on the channel and i got the signal and now i'm on it every day and so i'm just like how did i get here and so yeah it was it was just surreal how it all happened and that sound there were some other bands that were coming up with us and they helped us like get the whole that whole genre going but we were they call us the godfathers of that yeah new new sound so but um but it just grew and grew and grew and it can't that record came out as number one and i mean everything skyrocketed like we got invited to be at the mtv mu music awards we won two moon men that year and then grammy awards and just grammys too no we didn't go because we're on tour but we got nominated and but we were just mtv awards were there we sat behind like dr dre eminem and jennifer lopez all these like just i mean uh christina aguilera like and tommy lee from motley crew another band that i worship when i was a kid they gave us the award so it was just so high of a level but we started playing arenas then and then what happened was we get so big like that everybody in every city you go to wants to come to the concert and so every drug dealer it seemed like in town so um there would be drug dealers backstage and then it just got dark it was like for everyone yeah every day everybody these drug dealers had access to get in yeah and they would give us stuff and we had endless money so we would just like buy up the cocaine on and just party all night long girls were just everywhere and it's weird because around that time we all ended up getting married to girls that we were with before corn and we started having kids and stuff but on the road we were like you know we're rock stars we're like we're in control of everything people do anything we say so just like proverbs says you know we got tested by our praise and we failed every day every day every day every day and so it was just a madhouse party then we'd go home and try to play mr dad and stuff and mr husband and then he was just living a life and hearts hearts know when they're being yeah absolutely deceived and when it's not true love like god's made us in such a way that that is an intuition yeah i was gonna say did you did you kind of have that feeling then like all my dreams are coming true this is everything i've wanted and yet it doesn't feel like i thought it would totally did you already feel that like about honestly the second record when it came out i started to feel the emptiness of touring and i was just like wow because it's like when we first started our dreams were coming true and it was like all of us friends we grew up together and we were having fun around two years into it it seemed like everybody was just chasing the girls in the party and kind of grouping off with other people like maybe crew members or whatever it's like this guy's hanging out with these guys and so it just was like there's nothing really here and so but the money was pouring in you know as we got bigger but i was buying things and yeah i was i was slowly becoming an empty shell year by year that would pass because god was calling me and let me just go back real quick when i was 12 i got bullied a lot i think i mentioned that i got bullied too my singer got no no you didn't okay my singer got bullied i got bullied a lot in junior high and so i met a kid down the street from my house it was really nice to me i ended up hanging out with him and his mom told me about jesus during the summer and i had asked jesus into my heart this one summer not with her around nobody knew but me and god no i was at home because she said he's a savior and i was like lord if you're the savior of the world then come into my heart and so i wasn't able to just live in this crazy debauchery on the road all those years because the lord was with me and so i that emptiness was like a way of him just you know pawned me to himself but that would work a few years later really you the story of you getting saved in i think 2005 the salvation was earlier than that god was with you yeah already i love that yeah he doesn't abandon us when we go into the darkness does he whoa he's always i'll never leave you or forsake you that's who said so never means never you know and it was it's not like i knew him and was just like forget you i didn't understand it i didn't because i lived like an atheist you know i just asked him into my heart when i was a kid because if it was true then i wanted it but i didn't have the the knowledge of it or experienced something but that desire is precious to the lord yeah and so year after year the party just continued um obviously living like that marriages don't stay together all 500 percent the divorce failure within two years after we got married so divorce settlements lawsuits like everything the same thing yeah within like real short you know or sorry real close to each other but so my wife ended up leaving me she got so bad on drugs she hooked on drugs really bad when i was off uh on tour she was partying and we had a daughter and everything and so she was so bad that the courts gave me full custody of our daughter and so my daughter was three years old and you have full custody and you're still touring and you're addicted to drugs at this stage well i was i played it i stopped the drugs when i got full custody i was like oh i'm going to step up to the plate yeah that lasted four months wow so i just i didn't have the strength i didn't i remember there was a root of self-hatred that when i got picked on i would look in the mirror when i was a kid and i'd say i don't like you you're ugly just like those kids say i felt that and so all those years through corn and everything it was um i need to turn that off sorry okay now you're oh that's fine oh mine's off can i start that over i think that's yeah yeah it's probably important you know the phone make sure that the statement the call no that was an alarm sorry i just had to turn it off we're good can i just say the root of self hatred because it ties into what um ready so there was when i was uh getting bullied in my junior high school years there was a i remember looking in the mirror and just feeling that like having thoughts of i don't like you you're ugly you you know and i didn't feel good about myself but i carry that self-hatred all throughout corn and everything and so that's why i couldn't stay sober i didn't like myself you know i didn't like myself looking in the mirror and so i just wanted to be another person and so i drank and did drugs and everything and so i got sober when i got full custody of my daughter but then four months later 9 11 happened and all that stuff and they're talking about world war three and i was like i'd start drinking i was like what's the point man this whole world's jacked up and so i started drinking i promised i wouldn't do crystal meth again but but by that time i moved all the way back to bakersfield where my parents still live to this day they were helping me raise my daughter how young was she was she she was about three then wow four three or four and um she actually five she started kindergarten and everything and i was up drinking one night with a friend and we ended up getting crystal meth and that i was like i'll just do it tonight and that turned into a two-year addiction every every day i took a that's a pretty crazy drama crystal meth yeah like it screws if you hit a little bit no big time like it'll make you psycho and like i was trapped though it was a perfect place for me to be because when you're on your back and you got nowhere else to look but up you know right so it was i looked back and so it was it was ended up being a good thing but so i did that for two years and were you on a break from touring at that point i was touring the whole you weren't talking about okay okay off and on so once i was uh in in europe and i had my dealer package a couple eight balls of crystal meth and send them to me through fedex and that's when i was like wow okay it's time to get sober you've really gone past the line here and so my plan was after that to go home and go to rehab i went to outpatient rehab i couldn't get clean nothing worked and i had two friends that invited me to go to church during that whole time and i was like i'll try it i just pictured ned flanders from the simpsons when i was like but i went and this guy got up there and said you come to jesus as you are don't change yourself just invite him in and he'll he'll change your life from the inside out and so i put it to the test i raised my hand received christ i went home and i just prayed lord jesus i'm a meth addict my daughter deserves a better father if you give me freedom from this you know basically show yourself that you're real you know you know i'll do it just help me and um i was going to church high and i just kept because the guy said be yourself come to jesus and so i would go high and wow within a couple weeks i had an encounter at my house where i felt like heaven open up around me and arms just came all around me and i was looking for an angel or jesus walk into the room it was so like yeah and so i just i looked up and i said father and i felt like i was home for the first time in my life and so i threw away the drugs the next day and i've been and i just i meant it and i did what i said and i followed him ever since it was 11 years ago wow yeah so you were free from addiction that day or was it a process because i i feel like sometimes the lord just does that so supernaturally someone just feels so free from addiction and then sometimes i've had friends they do have to stay in rehab and they have to go through that process and it's a longer one and i'm like i don't know why it doesn't always work that same way like in one moment but for you was it kind of a supernatural healing from from addiction yeah i don't know if it was i think it was supernatural but at the same time i had so much money and so many drug dealers and and doctors that would give me vicodin i got hooked on vicodin at one point xanax everything i was doing everything that i was done i just didn't know how to let go it was a really strong decision yeah and so when jesus came and he revealed himself to me in that room that day i felt the presence i felt like heaven opened and i felt a love from another dimension and i was instantly addicted to that i was like i don't want the drugs anymore i want that and so i was just i was like how many more lines can i do how many more beers can i drink how many more pills can i take you know i was just done and i get what you're saying because i get frustrated too i'm like lord just just reveal yourself to them and they'll be done with it but everyone's wired different and so i think i did everything in such access excess that i was sick of it really it made me sick so i was just like it was quicker you were right that sounds like that's amazing yeah i mean it took him like 20 years after i asked him into my heart to like so if you look at it like that it wasn't really quick you know yes yeah yeah but he knows he knows the right timing and was it right after that you decided to leave the band it was um i remember the christians that was i was hanging out with they were like you know stay in the band you know you could change the atmosphere there whatever that's interesting yeah your christian friends were saying that yeah yeah but i remember one day this guy was telling me that and it was like i heard but not heard but felt the lord like drop words into my spirit you know just like go home and quit the band be be with your daughter and get off the road and just follow me get to know me and so he was telling me to stay that and i walked out of his kitchen i said i gotta go and i went and quit the band right then and then i found out that they were wrapping up a 23 million dollar deal with emi records 23 million because they we had worked on an epic record sony for 10 years and we did so well that basically went to other labels and give us a blank check and we want this amount of money wow so i didn't get a dime of that and i was like i don't care anymore i just want to be home with my daughter that actually they toured so much after because they signed a check and they had to work that money off that yeah so it was a blessing not to get any of that yeah yeah and so oh my gosh isn't that the wisdom of the lord yeah it's crazy so did it feel like a relief at the time or was that really difficult because of the relationships you were in it was difficult because me and the guitar player were like guitar twins and we did everything together musically yeah just one question about that did you swap over was it rhythm and lead or did you do both did we're both rhythm and lead yeah yeah so you just flow together yeah swap it around it was really cool amazing that was hard but at the same time he was a angry alcoholic then and so i passed about 11 p.m he he was starting fights with people and stuff so i was just like i get away from him too i just want to get away from everybody so it was at one it felt like i was doing something meaningful for the first time in my life that really meant like everything because jesus because it had so much white that he had so much it's god who cares about career and all that or fame i was like this has so much meaning but then it was i'd have days where it was really hard and emotional because those are my i grew up with those guys you know and i know it was ugly and it was hurting people and so it was up and down a little bit so they didn't understand yeah i imagine they were like what why why homie did one too many lives thinks jesus is talking to him that's exactly what happened and so a lot of the fans thought that too but yeah but it it you know after the dust settled they they signed the deal and they went off and did their thing and that went off and did mine so it was fine yes it wasn't like you left them and they lost money yeah they got more money they were blessed yeah they got my party you said you didn't feel bad so they got an extra like after taxes three million to split up or something wow that's so crazy wow and you became single dad like full time yeah after that it was cool to look at my daughter and be like i'm gonna quit my because when when i told her or my parents are saying you know your dad's gotta go to work that meant see you next month yeah and so i looked at her and said um i'm gonna quit my work and be home with you and she was just like she felt so special she just smiled and and then she was she was like is that allowed can like can grown-ups quit their work so she didn't understand it like she was five years old and but um you know just to be home with her and make her breakfast take her to school pick her up from school every day was just like it was it was magical man wow because i never did that her whole life you know and so preschool none of that stuff i was there as much as i could be but yeah so i just did that for the next few years and i was telling you guys earlier where god i moved to phoenix arizona and started having really like i was the type of guy i was like lord i'm going to go in this room and i'm going to do whatever it takes spiritually to build myself up i want to get as close to you as i can i want to know you i want to really really know you i want to know you as much as these guys in the bible i want to know you and so i would do that and i started having these encounters with god in in phoenix and he became so real to me and uh he also you know what's like it's like when you get saved you guys probably know like when you get real with the lord you feel this and you're just like oh my gosh this is so and you get so zealous and everything but then after a little bit it'll take you through the trials it's like he shows you who you're gonna be and he let you feel that and then he takes you through the process of trial and tribulation and blessing for a few years to get you and then you end up that person that he shows you you're going to be in the future because i had a lot of crap that needed to get healed and delivered and everything so i was gonna say it wasn't just i'm saved and it's smooth sailing now and my life's just easy it was actually a crazy process even though you're out of the band and all this other stuff yeah it was quite a journey and you talk about what was happening right after you you said you had that this amazing kind of time of encounter with the lord or he he became more real to you than he ever had been you're having these experiences and then what started happening after that why do you think you talked about needing that encounter to get through yeah because he was uh i remember a prophet from um south africa came his name was benjamin and he came and he said i was just wanting to get back in music as a solo artist and he's like the lord's going to put the brakes on a bunch of things and he's going to show you he's going to take you to his real people and you're going to get taught by them and you're going to really know the lord but brian the lord's going to show you how to suffer with him wow and kind of a rough word because you know that's one of our core values in iris one of our core values is is suffering for righteousness right yeah it's all over the bible yeah it's all over it so um in my head i'm going false prophet but i'm doing i'm going on tour next month what i would want to say you know at the same time i like i love the and he's been faithful to that he showed me how to suffer and he showed me his real people that have really taught me amazing things and so so yeah it was it was a a lot of things that happened i i i had good times with my daughter in the beginning and then next thing you know in 2008 the financial crisis hit with the oh yeah everything the market dropped yeah yeah that's when i moved to america really we immigrated in 2008 and everything the market was just falling perfect yeah perfect time to move and buy but um so i uh my house i lost my house foreclosure i lost um i lost in phoenix yeah i lost my bmw it was so beautiful what did you have a 7 series with 22 inch rims and and so i lost two fans that were part of this company i started and um i got in business with this guy start all these companies and uh put my millions into it and i lost every dollar that i had it do that and and that guy disappeared and so everybody sued me because i'm the public i'm i'm the name of the public video yeah yeah so they sued me and so talk about losing everything but i would pray i'd be like lord give me more faith and then my money grew wings and flew away and i'm like lord what's happening he said he asked for more faith and everything was gone and i had friends that were they were like their houses were short selling and they were getting out of their stuff and mine foreclosed boom bad credit and i'm like everything i'm the one that's like seeking you the most like what's going on these guys weren't even walking christians you know some of them and you ever wonder in that moment hey wait why did i leave the band like oh yeah or were you like wait a second totally but at the same time it was okay it was confusion because i had i mean even like your family um joyce meyers like all these people i would read about and i and i learned that before the lord exalts you he humbles you and he walks you through seasons of faith where you like got nothing but his hand of provision and so i knew that and so when i was losing everything but then i'd have days where the spiritual attack was so strong that i'd be like i shouldn't have left corn i made the wrong dish i'm gonna have to move in with my parents for a couple months what am i gonna do and so it was really crazy and it was like back and forth i thought it was losing my mind yeah hang on about your parents how is it with your parents do they found it weird that you found god or did how did they respond you got great questions you both do but um i remember they thought i lost my mind like everybody else but i must have been thinking oh my gosh he's into drugs and he's not looking after his daughter properly or whatever as well i mean they must have thought you needed something did they or did you not let them in do they know what was really going on with you they knew something but they they played the parents where they looked the other way and they're like uh he's fine he's just a musician you know and so i i i was a functioning alcoholic and drug addict yeah as much as i could but so when i got saved though i was just like you know my issues with my dad he was angry a lot growing up and he drank a lot when i was growing up um so i was things were bubbling to the surface right when i got saved so it was weird i got saved then i was like pushing my family away and i was hanging out with the church people you know so so my mom's like what's happening to you why you you left the band like what is this church and i gave her a book fox's book of martyrs and i said this is who i am now how's set up i did that to my poor mom that's the most boring question i was gonna say yeah it's not like easing their interests like all the dicks i was coming off of drugs man but it's a powerful book it's amazing but don't give it to your mom when she's like trying to figure out what's going on with christianity so brian that is celebrity my son's gonna die but god god was really kind and all that so they got curious and they started going to a more conservative church by their house checking out christianity and then they ended up giving their lives to the lord like that i think later that same year some within a year or two um how did you feel oh my gosh when i tell the story to philly the bass player he he tears up every time because he fights he knew my dad he knew that he was you know drinking sometimes he was angry and stuff and so i showed him the video of my dad getting baptized he just he's like you know this is crazy that's another thing i was super curious about was feel this journey yeah into faith were you part of that was that just god acted in god i tried to help him gosh for those who don't know the bass player of corn became a christian yes the bass player of corn became a christian this is crazy [ __ ] because i thought sorry i'm gonna admit my ignorance here because i i thought you were the bass player because i thought it was the bass player became a christian i i thought well there was only one story because i didn't know corn that's how god confused everything you know how hard it made it on me i'm like people would be like why aren't you why'd you have to leave corn he's still in band he's a christian i'm like oh yeah because and and i would go play shows 10 people come and watch me play and feel these playing with 50 000 still and i'm just like what's going on you know so it was really all that pride god was taking that pride remember i love the proverbs thing i'll go back to that like man gets tested by praise so i was getting tested by lack of praise too when i was going to playing and so the pride my pride was just getting melted and i'm like i was cringing like a little demon with holy water poured on them so can i tell you philly's story yes yes his dad his dad was a prison minister so he's that's he's a pk i feel he's a pk well he got saved we would drink with his dad when we were kids right but he got saved when we were like 15 16. and then he told us we all we we had demons when we were kids he'd be like when he got saved he's like you need to get away from that there's demons you guys have demons and we're like yeah also not subtle yeah exactly people do that but um so years later i get saved i leave the band i get he gets a hold of me or i get a hold of him his field he's dead and he says man i've been praying for you guys for years no because i want my son to know jesus too oh my god because if i go in my head i'm thinking good luck with that because he feel the let me just tell you field he was like the gangster the band like he loved rap music and he'd be like what punk like he would just treat people like he would control us and all that and so his dad told me on a phone call once he goes man i want my son saved he goes and i'm thinking good luck and he goes if i go to jesus when i go to heaven if my son's not saved then i'm just going to be like give me my son i want my son saved so two months later his dad gets this weird disease and he dies he dies i got saved in uh january his dad died in may i think in 2005. yeah wow gosh this is all happening at once i know oh it's like a crashing of heaven so i went to the funeral and i saw philly there and i told him and i said i was crying i said i just want to tell you your dad said that if he dies and he's going to go straight to jesus he wants he wants you or whatever like that oh he wants you to walk with jesus and he looked at me the funeral and everything he goes i got jesus in my heart you ain't better than me and everyone looks at us and i'm like what i don't even and that was it i just got away from him we went separate ways but i guess after that he went home and he had a bible and he started reading it and slowly but surely his his life started to change and so i wasn't even involved i tried to actually minister to him and he yelled at me so god did it all wow so yeah how's your relationship with fielding now great it's so good he's he's a night and day i mean he's nice to people he's like i mean no one's perfect he still battles with with you know some things his personality like i do too but um he is just like man he's so he's so kind compared to how he used to be and it's just it's a trip to see wow and so would you ever have anticipated joining the band again no eight years later this is almost a decade later no and you were probably like i'm done with it my whole story it was kind of another test because my whole story was like i left everything and i followed jesus and i went through all these tests and trials and and i don't need fame or money that was my story right i wrote a book about it it was on the new york times bestseller list it was probably money off of this story so i go back to corn yeah and everyone's like well what happened was the lord spoke to a rock concert one day and because christian bands play with non-non-christian metal bands and all the time i went to this concert i brought my daughter and i i ended up reconciling with the guys and they're all sober and they invited me to play a song with them and the lord just showed me and i got advice too from some people i trusted but the lord showed me he's like um what better place to be than around thousands of people that were just like you used to be you know what i mean and so he led me right back in there and the music is honestly people christians get held up on like what about the message and the language and stuff like that and that's all there is it's just some the songs are angry and uh and there's some cuss words flying around but that's it there's no drugs backstage or nothing and i get to tell my testimony in interviews all the time you know and i get a meet with fans after the show we did it we did a movie it's on netflix um darren wilson wanderlust productions yes holy ghost holy ghost that shows what we do after the concerts now how do your bandmates feel about that like if you're backstage and you're like kind of witnessing to people and talking about your story are they just like do whatever or they're like are they just stoked about it but they don't really understand it the singer he uh i think everyone has some kind of history with a church or something christianity in some way some negative and some yeah but they um like the singer loves to play video games and so he'll he'll go play video games our guitar player monkey he likes to relax and facetime his kids and everything and everyone just says whatever you like to do do it life's too short if you want to go tell people about jesus go do that if you want to play video games go do that it's just it's just god's hands on there and on the whole situation it's amazing and it's just so cool to see so yeah it's beautiful and but just if people would think about it it doesn't matter about this what the people are doing and everything around there because i'm going out into the dark place and i'm witnessing you know i'm like i'm just playing i'm telling my story and then people's lives are getting touched and people just recently can i get give a couple of testimonies oh you would love to hear we're gonna ask you what is there must be some amazing stories of fans that have come and healing feelings and god journeys that have happened there's some resistance like my first time when i started doing this like for i'm gonna do this every night i went and i grabbed a a group of people and i was like hey you guys come here let me tell you something i start telling my story and this girl lifts up her shirt right in the front and i'm like all right so i kept going and and i had friends out there and they're like hey just let him talk and i gave him a testimony and so people prayed to receive the lord and everything and so so so it was like that the first it was like trying to get me to maybe back down from doing it or something like spiritually or something and i was like that just stuff doesn't faze me so and then um so i started doing that every night and so we've had healings happen we've had some people resist it and that's fine too because seeds i love it because when they resist it too i said okay if you're not ready for this that's cool but i lead them to the lord i show them how to go to the lord i say listen when you are ready because there's going to be a time in your life all you got to do just when you're alone just go lord jesus come into my heart when you're laying in your bed and it's only you and not your friends around i just i still lead them and show them how to do it but there was robbie dawkins came out and this guy was out in the crowd when i was talking to you and he was like where's the strip clubs he was just being disruptive and at the end of the thing a fan got healed after robbie prayed for him he's robbie dawkins is a healing evangelist so he's a friend of mine and a fan got healed and this fan that was yelled for the strip clubs was like i need my back heel i broke it at a corn concert ten years ago i started laughing because i knew what god was gonna do and i took him i go robbie right here and he goes i'm not gonna pray for you but this fan who got healed is gonna pray for you and you're gonna see jesus is the one that heals not me so he got the first man and he prayed for the the guy that was yelling for the strip club and he started bawling right there he said oh my effing god is this stuff this stuff's real i could touch my toes i haven't touched my toes and he goes he goes my mom's been telling me about this for years i go if it do you think i would be out here still sweaty i didn't take a shower yet tell people about jesus and it's not the most popular thing to do at a rock concert if it wasn't real you think i would be doing this if it wasn't real and he's like oh my gosh and so he got saved and then a lot of oh i remember this couple they got they lost their four-year-old son after his tonsils were taken out a real really strange thing and so it was like i think it was four or five years they were trying to get pregnant they had two miscarriages and they came there and they're just trying asking everybody if they can meet corn because the husband they're christians but the husband helped it helped corn helped him grieve with his anger you know about losing his son who ended up praying for them right i mean god will use stuff yeah you know and so we prayed for them and and they're pregnant a week later they drove to another show and they came and told another group of fans their testimony i mean oh my gosh i love when the dramatic stuff happens and i'm just so thankful that that their lives are they're pregnant and then i'm still friends and they come out and hang out with us still to this day so beautiful things happening man god is right there so and you know radicals really you don't need to justify if god tells you to do something and you feel that you do it you don't need to justify returning to corn if he's god told you to do it that's the most important thing anyway you know what i mean yeah and look at the fruit this is all these testimonies of fruit the fact that a guy broke his back at a corn consumption and got healed at a time redemption theme right there this is redemption can i tell you one more thing i got so bold with that so two nights ago yeah you would i think two nights later another kid was like disruptive and i was like i think that's a sign that god's gonna move dramatically and i was like hey come here and i go i go you're gonna pray for someone and he's like no i'm not and i go who here has something wrong with their body and this guy raised his hand i go come here i go pray for him he goes no and he walked away and i was like oh um who here has a problem believing this stuff and this guy over here raised his hand i go come here you're going to pray for him god's going to heal this guy right now prayed for him three times didn't get healed and i was like well jesus changed my life you guys and let me pray for you so i felt so humiliated by the formula right so so there are failures and sometimes i look stupid but every time that happens god comes back like we always get the victory so like the next show to be something awesome and sometimes it's just really cool and i love you you never know what happens after that exactly you get to heaven you'd be surprised that could be one of your greatest testimonies at failure up in heaven when you feel like what happened in whoever what if a lot of these metal heads are like resistant to it and they're in their 30s and 10 or 15 20 years from now they're older and they're more mature and the seed just sprouts yeah and they come alive they're not listening to metal anymore they got their kids and everything and you know that's what i think god's doing he's preparing stuff you know but there's there's a lot of uh instant stuff change lives and everything but i think there's going to be a lot like thousands of just uh later bloomers you know wow yeah definitely i've got it i've got an interest a question i mean it's not even a question i just suppose to me it seems like you've been able to maintain yourself and you came to faith but you didn't you changed but you didn't change in the sense that you're still yourself now you're still brian and you're authentic authentically yourself i know a lot of people when they come to christ can feel they need to change even culturally or the way they dress or you know these external things i suppose i'm talking about do you have any advice to to young believers about just when they receive christ about not having to you know it's not the internal is more important than the external you know what i mean yeah um because people could probably look at you conservative christians could look at you and go oh my gosh that guy's not a christian yeah you know i mean people have you've talked about feeling judged from other christians for going back to the band yes right like you've dealt with that i mean i just feel the for being in the band i didn't lash out at them like some of these keyboard gangsters on facebook but i was like dude you i told him once i was like you can't play those songs you know yeah so i get them and i've been there once before so i try to give them grace but you guys god's so hungry after the world and um and and he's not religious he is he's just loving and jesus he argued with the with the um religious people and he loved the sinners you know and he wants us to go out and be and be with people that were like i was you know and so that's what he has me doing it's a calling though you know yeah it definitely is a calling and he does it to churches too where he gets to people to get sick of their lives and then they they're led into churches and stuff and then they get saved there that's the way to do it too but some people he just likes he's like i'm gonna use this one to be a little radical and it's like jesus loves to shake things up yeah loves to shake things up sometimes and he's loving but he's a fire and he's an untameable he's a lion he's a fire that can be put out lying that can't be tamed it's just like yeah it's amazing man it's really amazing it's it's like it's the funnest thing i've ever done walking with god and if i wasn't led back into the band like that's my thing that that i love doing is walking with god it's like he could have led me out of music and done something else and in mozambique or something and yeah you know what i'm saying like i just wanna i just wanna be where he wants me to be and this is where i'm supposed to be now yeah it's really music is such a passion for you yeah so like how good of god that you you get to still be doing that yeah does it spin you out how different the dynamic is now on tour and with your bandmates when you think back to the first time night and day like that must be so crazy we all get along if someone has a problem we humble ourselves and fix the problem until that person is happy i mean everybody's on board with that yeah there's no bad apple in the bunch we're not perfect but you know what i'm saying it's like we work together well and it's just so crazy because that's and we we have so many other bands that are friends and they're just like buttonheads all the time or they break up and all that stuff and so there's really like a grace and a gift in our band right now yeah it's gonna be for the remainder of the career it's going to be like that because i know these guys and and they're just changed and your first album back was paradigm shift and how was that i mean recording that and that felt like different recording that album together that's cool you know their name um yeah it was different and we were trying to get like what have we i've been gone eight years i'm back and what what is our sound now and then so we did that record it did really well we got our first number one rock radio hit actually ever and so and then we did our newest album and i think it has more of a corn feel to it and a lot of the fans are really happy it's really heavy and it's passionate yeah but um yeah it's heavy metal so so it's heavy yeah and what is it not for everybody what does the life look like now are you on the road a lot still now yeah i got two months off right now so that's good then we're gonna hit it um pretty hard starting march and then we're going to europe in march brazil and april states all throughout the summer and uh australia come on nick okay yeah and then japan and all that and canada so it's gonna be and does your daughter travel with you now or is she doing is she left home or she how old she's 18 years old wow she's going to full sail university online for um creative writing for entertainment so i'm so proud of her and she's uh she comes out and visits me on the road she's going to italy and paris and all these in march she's going to meet me out there for 10 days and that's so cute yeah she's been to rio australia japan europe three times um yeah so she goes that's so awesome she's a corn fan so yeah she actually she went through a lot of um depression and suicidal threats and everything when she was 14 four years ago as i was going back into corn it's crazy i have a new book called with my eyes wide open i was going to ask you if you want to talk about that you came out last year and hang on you're an author i mean you've written about is it seven books you've read no three three i think that's prophetic come yeah so with my eyes wide open is it tells the full story of how god led me back into corn it's called with my eyes wide open miracles and mistakes on my way back to corn and my daughter she she went through this horrible things so i found a boarding school the lord led me to a boarding school that's they're christian but not legalistic they don't force it on the kids but they're so like they're they believe in the spirit and all that too so it's like they're incognito so they got this presence there how did you find that school there's no there's not any there's only like it's one of a kind unfortunately and i hope that that spreads but so my daughter went there and it's just she's got female leadership in her life and just you know mentors mentors and so she needed that she was 14 and she just got healed up and i got help so i didn't have to do everything myself i was a single parent you know i couldn't deal with it myself and so it just worked out great wow couldn't have worked out better wow and so how are you is there any love interest in your life or how do you deal with that do you feel like you're cool just to be single for the rest of your life i do i wow okay yeah and you know what i thought that was too personal but yeah you really took it well but we asked we talked earlier but um i really feel like um that's my calling and i know some people they get they get really zealous in the beginning and they're like i'm gonna be like paul i don't know then god gives them a me or whatever but i really feel called to it but i'll never say never because every time i say never yeah it's dangerous the opposite happens that's so amazing yeah that's awesome and you don't drink alcohol at all now either is that correct i went 11 years i didn't drink and then i started i started with wine with communion a little bit and a lot of my christians and non-christians they drink responsibly and everything so i tried that then i ended up in bars doing shots and stuff for two months in 2015 and the whole time i was like lord this isn't me i can't drink laura i just can't drink i can't drink responsibly so i'd get drunk and talk to the lord yeah and i was like i'm gonna quit lord next week and i went to bethel and talked to uh chris overstreet uh oh sorry yeah chris overstreet i talked to um uh the chris fowleton's son jason yeah i was like i'm having a hard time quitting because i tried to drink responsibly and i can't and i got scared i was going to be alcoholic and so i got off it like it took about two months but um lesson learned yeah i have zero cravings after going through that like people drink wine around me every night and i'm just like i don't even want it because i tried it and it doesn't work for me yeah so i had one slip yeah that's such a personal thing wow that's good yeah it's okay it's okay to be not perfect you know and i think that was in me and it needed to come out and so yeah it was it was a really difficult process though so gosh yeah wow so brian this has just been amazing i want to sit here and interview you both talk about your lives now hello it doesn't seem fair this is amazing and i'm super excited to see the future yeah they're staying touched yeah definitely absolutely absolutely and we've got to get you out to africa too so yeah come and visit i would love to everyone should go once right that's another thing that's not for everyone though the africa thing really even visiting no visiting i i'll recommend although it is really hard for some people even just that but yeah no living there is not for everyone that's for sure totally but yeah we'd love to have you yeah i would love to eat thank you so much for being here yeah thanks for having me i feel like i just stole it all the time blabbering but i guess that's why you wanted me here literally true yeah it's amazing to to hear that and i'm sure everyone listening has just been super blessed would you like us to release a blessing or a prayer over every anyone everyone that's listening right now yeah yeah it's on your heart yes yes when you receive from your brian yes whoa yes lord i love that there's such diversity in the body lord and there's you know i went to the church in florida recently lord and there's just all kinds of the people are so genuine and they're reaching out and there's like you know thousands of people and they started off with a hundred people in their church or less and so i love the diversity that can come and and hang out with with the spirit people the more conservative people the the seeker churches the and and so i just want to celebrate that because so many people online go and they battle each other about stupid little things lord but you know what everyone's in love with you god amen everything's in love everyone's in love and everyone's thankful for the pain that you endured jesus on the cross and saved us all so i just pray that you would release a grace for unity wow grace for unity lord and help us not not get upset about the uh just the people that are feel like they're police officers for the kingdom and they're going after everybody i call them keyboard gangsters lord because they're just so tough behind those things but help us love them to you and pray for them instead of fighting with them come on so yeah lord open all of our eyes because we're all we all need to go the next place so open all of our lives the bitter ones the the ones that feel like we're mature but but you know if we if we feel like we can't learn or go somewhere else then we're just going to stay where we're at so just open our eyes so we can all go to the next level lord and we just release forgiveness to everybody in the body that have heard us lord online or whatever and we ask you that you would just give us that grace for forgiveness and unity in the body lord we thank you and and reveal yourself in a new way to everybody listening and watching a new way lord new levels for everybody lord in jesus name and we've got a few questions we just have to ask because we end every podcast with a couple of all the same questions chris you want to go first do you have a favorite sound have you seen dom and domer yes you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world yeah remember that sound he did that's my favorite sound no um favorite sound like anything like yeah wow i just i'm sorry i'm not good on the spot but i just say just all instrumental music just that sound of that language i think i'm hungry did you hear that was that me i didn't know i thought that was eminem yeah just music yeah sound of you like classical music yeah yeah because some of that instrumental stuff's really amazing yeah oh my gosh but if it gets too technical and my brain takes over then i like i like the music that i can the sound of the music or it makes my heart like open you know yeah so i love melody yeah wow yeah i've got a lot of questions i want to ask about music with you because you're such a musician second podcast yes second podcast what's your favorite sound ooh ooh i was not expecting that um my daughter laughing yay it's a con it's such a classic parent one but it's so true yeah that's good so true yeah i think it's my my two-year-old trying to talk at the moment oh that's yeah that's more pure than that oh my god what's next favorite movie i know they're they're tough it's hard man i really like um i'm just gonna say too there's no rules yeah i like forest gump i like uh classic one i like uh narnia passion of the christ of course so thank you come on yeah it's quite a wide range it's nice come on yeah mel's up for another directing award upcoming academy oh yeah is he for hacksaw ridge yeah no yeah you got nominated for best director redemption yes come on this is the thing with this tell me that wasn't a spiritual attack on his life i don't know i mean that's not especially yeah yeah yeah so absolutely have you met mel i have not met but i met uh steve mcaveedy he produced directed or produced with mel the passion of the christ so i haven't met mel yet but um i was going to do my my story with mcaveedy he was getting involved in my documentary at one point and that didn't work out but um that was it hasn't been made yet the documentary about your life it has it finally has have you heard of i am second yes timesecond.com it's a bunch of testimonies you know i saw it online researching yeah it's amazing they cut it all together and the editing is incredible they did um they believed in me going back to corn when some christians were saying you can't be in the band they were like i know him and he would never go back there unless god was leading him so they went and they filmed my return to corn they did a documentary that's great so yeah you've got to see them yeah i'm interested to watch more of their stuff because i saw your your one yeah and then on the youtube thing it was all these other ones i thought oh my gosh this is super interesting yeah it's really cool it's my it's their first feature length documentary film um my story so that's going to be coming out in the next year or two but um yeah so look out for that yeah yeah that's cool yeah crystalline if there's if you could explore any other profession what would it be um ballet dancing is ministry uh profession yeah that's what i would do yeah well because i mean i'm in ministry but i got a career in music too but everything is ministry to me but i would just i kind of look forward to the time when i don't have to um when i don't travel on the tour bus you know because those are hard to live in for me yeah but um yeah i'm just going to go into full-time ministry whatever that looks like when i'm done with music yeah that's awesome that's awesome now when it's all wrapped up and said and done and our time on earth is earth is through what words do you want to hear out of the mouth of jesus when you're walking into heaven about you what do you want jesus to say to you or what do you want to hear him say about brian head welsh now that wasn't so bad now was it i have a feeling that death is so like we look at it and it's this big big monster or whatever and i just feel like he's gonna we're gonna get there and cross over and he's going to be like wasn't as bad as he thought i just want him to say welcome home too yeah i've been waiting for you and if what i don't know how that all works when we get there it's like it's pointing to a man to die and then a judgment or whatever i'm just gonna run to papa you know even if there's some court session going on and be like no no i need a hug first i need a hug first then we can get to all that other stuff so yeah not so good fantastic is that all the questions i can't remember yeah yeah that's it i mean yeah yeah that you have to end on that one yeah the best one so brian thank you so much and yeah we would love to get you back another time that'd be fun yes absolutely definitely thank you for having me yeah and thanks for being such an encouragement and for just being such an amazing canvas for god to paint on canvas oh that's so good yeah well i've been courage i've been encouraged by this ministry over the years so yeah it goes both ways thank you thank you for your support yeah yeah we need to have you back because i feel like there's so many things being covered like you've done amazing humanitarian stuff oh there's so many things part two yes part two music i want to get into more about music yes definitely um and which one are we closing out on thank you also to everyone who is listening we hope you've been as inspired as we have i feel like redemption has been the theme for sure of this podcast and we love it and we're so honored to have brian here and if you want to leave any comments just look below and click on it and tell us what you think of after hours and we will see you next time god bless this podcast is presented by iris global for more information or to support the work of iris global please visit us online at irisglobal.org

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Length: 75min 37sec (4537 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 21 2017