I Was RIGHT!!!! (and I hate it) - Semiconductor Shortage Explained

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Honestly, the people who bought the panic sold 20xx series cards are probably sitting pretty happy.

Could have gotten a 2080 ti for <= 500 online back mid 2020

Would have easily held up for another generation or two

👍︎︎ 161 👤︎︎ u/aj0413 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

So what's the proper way to type the konami code into the url?

👍︎︎ 12 👤︎︎ u/Motokid600 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

Unfortunate that it's just Asus and MSI signing up for this. They aren't even selling their cards at Nvidia MSRP anymore. Even the worst Asus RTX 3070 card is $125 over MSRP at $625. cheapest MSI is $205 over MSRP. Some are like +$300 Is that actually what the cards here were priced too?

👍︎︎ 116 👤︎︎ u/bubblesort33 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

Good initiative, but nowhere near enough unfortunately. GPUs are going to be near impossible to find until next year.

👍︎︎ 237 👤︎︎ u/Lmui 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

I wonder how many of these buyers are gonna flip and sell for a profit.

People suck. Never forget that.

👍︎︎ 73 👤︎︎ u/Seanspeed 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

Linus said on WAN Show that he managed to get 500 GPUs. If he's doing 100 each time, I'd expect another 4 of these annoucements.

👍︎︎ 33 👤︎︎ u/Dazza477 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

Anyone actually get one? Too bad no 3060ti in the list. I had to google what Konami Code was. Did you have to type "Up, Up, Down.." stuff in the URL?

👍︎︎ 84 👤︎︎ u/bubblesort33 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

God, this is actually a pretty decent and informative video, but that fucking title is such a turnoff for me.

I never minded the thumbnails because they’re easy to ignore. But I have literally 0 idea what the video I’m clicking is about now.

It’s super annoying since I just skip videos like this usually now because there’s like a 70% chance it’s a video I don’t care terribly about. And that’s a shame, because like I said, this video is actually pretty good.

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Now that said, on the GPU part, he’s right. Miners aren’t the sole reason no one can get GPUs. Nobody’s been able to get GPUs since before 2020, and mining wasn’t talking off then yet like it did now.

Nobody wants to hear that though, because miners are an extremely convenient scapegoat. To be clear, they’re definitely part of the problem, but like I said, look back to when the GPUs launched. No one was mining then, and they were just as impossible to get.

At this point I’m not even sure the mining bubble collapsing would make a huge dent in the secondary market. GPU scalp prices would hopefully become more like pre mining days since no one sane would spend 2-3k on a 3080 at least.

Fuck though, nearly 1.5 years for supply to catch up is brutal. Especially since last fall it was estimated that by feb-March it would be equalized. 1.5 years from now is literally “4000 series will launch soon if it hasn’t already” territory.

Edit: Lotta retconning going on about how easy it was to get a GPU in 2020 lol. (Obviously 3000/6000 series)

👍︎︎ 409 👤︎︎ u/Invisiblegoldink 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies

Answered all questions then it hung up at “verifying your answers”, 5 mins later I refresh, and it said out of stock.

Fucking kill me

👍︎︎ 17 👤︎︎ u/TheMexicanJuan 📅︎︎ Mar 23 2021 🗫︎ replies
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- I was right! (yells with joy) And it's terrible. At the start of last year, I predicted computer hardware prices would rise and that they would be sold out everywhere and yep. Over a year later that has basically come true. But no, no don't congratulate me because while everything I said was true, I wasn't even close to being correct about why there is still a shortage of PC parts and a broader global shortage of semiconductor products. But now, I've talked to some people high up in the industry, off the record, of course. You know how it is. And I finally got the real reasons why it is so hard for gamers to find the CPUs and GPUs they need to get them FPS. And this bad news is brought to you by Pulseway. Pulseway is a remote monitoring and management tool that we use ourselves here at Linus Media Group. With it, you can control all your Windows, Mac, and Linux machines from one app. So try it today at the link in the video description. (electronic music) For those of you living under a rock. Currently, there is a massive global shortage of semiconductors and everything that they're used to make. So CPUs, graphics cards, cars, even fridges. Last February, when I predicted there would be a global shortage of PC components, my reasoning was that COVID and the restrictions it caused would interrupt manufacturing facilities and the logistics companies that they rely on. It was a fair guess. And lots of smart people made the same guess, with companies like Apple lowering their projected revenues. But then in reality, supply of semiconductors was only briefly disrupted. And for almost all of 2020, they have been pumping out more CPUs and GPUs than ever. So why are the Ryzen 5900X and RTX3080 weapons grade unobtainium then? The real honest to goodness truth, guys, is because you keep buying them all. When people got stuck working from home that old e-machines that they hadn't used in years suddenly didn't cut it. I mean, it's reasonable to think that in one household, Junior could be attending a lecture, the Mrs. could be keeping her elderly parents company on Zoom, and Pops could have suddenly gotten into day trading or NFTs or whatever. All at the same time. This has led to a trend reversal that I don't think anyone saw coming. 2020 was the biggest growth year in the PC market in a decade, with a whopping 20.6% increase in U.S. PC sales in Q4 and, fun fact, Chromebooks are actually tracked separately. And those reported a staggering 200% increase in shipments year over year. To add even more fuel to this fire, enterprises have had to heavily invest in their cloud services with providers like Zoom, Microsoft, with Teams, and Slack needing to seriously beef up their data centers to keep up with everyone all of a sudden working and meeting from home. That's a lot of video data. And while you might think, "Oh, well, okay. Microsoft needs a new server. How does that affect me?" The truth is that your Ryzen desktop chip is made of the same chiplets as an EPVC. It's just down to how AMD glued them together. The two hardest hit sectors, though, are automotive and graphics cards. And we'll start with automotive because it's simpler, and because it's the better example of how I was kind of right. Automakers currently are being very vocal about having to stop their assembly lines because they can't get enough computer chips to go in their cars. But this is actually largely a problem of their own making. Back at the start of the pandemic, most automakers cut their forecasts and reduce their orders, assuming that demand for new cars would drop. And it did - temporarily. Until all of a sudden, no one liked riding the bus with an infectious disease on the loose and demand came roaring back. By the time they realized this though, the fabrication capacity that they had released had already been sold to someone else. So, okay. I wasn't right. I was just wrong with the automakers. Now for GPUs. Well, it's the miners, right? Let's all say it together, guys. (Bleep) you miners, (bleep) you miners. (bleep) you miners Whoa, okay. Hold on. Actually, nobody that we talked to actually agreed that miners were the underlying problem. Like to be clear, they're not helping the situation. And no one could say for sure if their GPUs are going to gamers or not. But everyone we talked to is pretty sure that the majority of GPUs are currently ending up in gamers' hands. It's just that way more people want GPUs than usual. And there is some data to back this up. Valve generously makes their concurrent Steam user count public. And if we look Whoa! If we look at this, it absolutely explodes at the start of the pandemic. And then, just as suddenly, jumps again after the summer when the second wave forced everyone indoors. Then at the same time, a new generation of GPUs that was finally a solid upgrade from NVIDIA's 10 Series, along with a new generation of consoles showed up after seven long years. And we shouldn't be surprised. In fact, we should actually be grateful that the new consoles didn't have a ton of compelling launch titles. This could have been even worse, David! Now you might not realize this, but Nvidia and AMD have to guess how many GPUs that they'll be selling months or even a year before the first one hits a consumer's hands. And while they were able to assume that demand for Ampere and Big Navi would be a bit higher than previous launches, you know, based on prototype testing data being very promising and historical sales numbers for premium cards, they got it wrong. Way wrong. I mean, you might even remember Jensen saying in the lead up to the launch of the RTX 3070, "the 3080 and 3090 have a demand issue, not a supply issue. The demand issue is that, well, it's much greater than we expected and we expected really a lot." So, okay. You might say, why don't they just make more? Well, because again, I'm kind of right. Demand issues cause supply issues. And there are only two companies in the world that can make this kind of bleeding edge tech: Samsung Foundries, and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, or TSMC. Under normal circumstances, they would be operating at roughly 80 to 90% of their capacity, which strikes a nice balance between making enough semiconductors to stay profitable, while offering enough downtime, to perform maintenance and extend the life of their equipment. If AMD or Nvidia had higher demand for their GPUs, they would just buy up some of that 10 to 20% idle time, pump out a couple million more chips, and everything's hunky dory. But the current situation means that the fabs are already running at 100% capacity. So companies are getting exactly what they pre-booked and not a way for more. This is why you're seeing some parts of the industry that are fairing much better stock wise than others. Finding an iPhone, for example. No problem, even though it uses TSMC Silicon, but that's not because Apple has some kind of extra pull because of their size. They've just been selling fewer iPhones for a couple of years now and the pandemic didn't change that. Same thing for Intel. You can buy their CPUs at MSRP, no problem. But they've also seen less growth over the last year. So their demand ended up more in line with their forecasts. Now obviously then, given the choice, I'd rather be in Nvidia or AMD's shoes, even if it does mean that gamers are mad at me, which raises the question then: Is there even a strong motivation to fix this problem? I mean, high prices are good for Texas energy suppliers, right? Well, Nvidia, AMD, and TSMC may have all reported record breaking revenues, but if capitalism has taught me anything, it's that leaving any amount of potential sales on the table is straight up unacceptable. I'm sure TSMC would love to sell 20% more wafers this year. So why is it taking so long? It's because they're trying actually, but it takes a lot of money, like tens of billions of dollars lot of money. TSMC has plans to build a $35 billion plant in Arizona, upping their spend from $12 billion after Joe Biden called for $37 billion in federal funding to address the global chip shortage. As for Samsung, well, they've also got plans for a $17 billion fab in the U.S. by late 2023. 2023. So yeah, these plants obviously won't be done anywhere near soon enough to stop the shortage of chips today, but then even if they came online tomorrow, they're only one part of the chain. After AMD or Nvidia get the wafers from TSMC or from Samsung, a lot still needs to be done to turn those into a graphics card you can plug into your system. They need to be tested and sorted for their capabilities. They need to be forwarded to board partners who need to manufacture PCBs, assemble the cards, QC them, package them. You guys get the idea. And the thing is, all of those factories are also at capacity. So every single part of this entire supply chain, I mean, even the guys who make the capacitors that go on the boards needs to be upgraded, which means that these shortages will continue for quite some time. How long? Well, we tried to find out, but unfortunately there seems to be a crystal ball shortage as well. And no one, even off the record, was willing to make a solid prediction. One good gauge that you can use at home though is the used market. Right now, if you were to use only retailers as an indication, getting a fifth gen AMD CPU looks pretty difficult, but the thing is, the prices on eBay are only a touch more than MSRP. What that indicates is that supply and demand for these have nearly equalized. So it's likely we'll be seeing them in stock regularly pretty soon. As for RTX 3000 Series GPUs: big yikes. It's estimated that graphics cards are being shipped anywhere from 10% to 30% below demand. And it's estimated that it will take three to four quarters for the supply of semiconductors to catch up and an additional one to two quarters until inventories are back to normal levels. We interrupt this program to bring you an exciting announcement. I was pondering this situation where gamers are being forced to pay outrageous scalper prices for the latest hardware. And I was thinking to myself, what if there was a way to make 100% sure that the buyer was A, a real person, not a bot and B, a verified actual gamer? Well, now there is. Introducing the Gamer Gauntlet, or GG for short. All you have to do is pass through it before everyone else. And for two and a half glorious minutes, you will have reserved a spot to buy one of the hottest products out there at MSRP, or at least MSRP plus that, or import duties or taxes or whatever else. There's nothing we can do about trade wars or other such things. Of course, the real trick here was for us to get our hands on hardware at MSRP so that we could turn around and sell it at MSRP. That is where ASUS came in. They were absolutely jazzed about the idea and somehow scraped together about a hundred RTX 30 Series cards for us to support the initiative, all of them with key ASUS technologies, like their Axial-tech fan design with a counter-rotating middle fan, their max contact heat sink, which is specially polished for maximum heat transfer, and their super LA power to premium power delivery system. But enough talk, where do you go? If you're a verified actual gamer, listen carefully, because this knowledge is only for you. Go to LTT Store.com forward slash the numerical digits of the card you wish to buy. So that's 30703080 or 3090 followed by the two final digits of the Konami code. All right, you guys got that? Stock is extremely limited. There's nothing we can do about that. All we can do is make sure that every card that touched our warehouse will go to a verified, actual gamer. While you guys are on there, we've actually got a promo running on the store on orders over $30, you can get $10 off a water bottle. So if you do miss out on a graphics card this time, at least you can take advantage of that. And as for whether this program will continue, yes, it will. Both MSI and AMD have already committed stock for the Verified Actual Gamer program. And we are hoping that more will follow. So guys, make sure you stay tuned. Oh yeah. Back to the video. So yeah, you might be lucky to get a GPU at MSRP this time, next year. That is unless maybe big crypto crash leads to big sell-off. Of course, there's another burning question in all of this. I mean didn't basically the entire tourism industry get laid off? Aren't we in the middle of a huge recession? Why is there this unprecedented demand for $800 graphics cards? Well, here's the thing. Normally during a recession,
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