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because sometimes existing is exhausting. My name is Anthony Padilla and today,
I'll be spending a day with Tubbo to uncover how Tubbo's rapidly become one of the most beloved entertainers
on the internet at just 17 years old. How he bet almost his entire income
on a Minecraft server that will likely change
the landscape of gaming forever and the jarring reactions
from kids at school after he exploded
in popularity overnight. By the end of this video,
we'll find out if entertaining millions
of followers and subscribers has been a wholly rewarding experience,
or if trading his humble private life for immense fame has come
with struggles and hardship, more agonizing than anyone
could ever fully comprehend. [music] -Hello, Tubbo.
-Hello. Nice to meet you, man. -Welcome to the US.
This is your first time here? -It's absolutely crazy here. Everything is just slightly super-sized
compared to the UK. There's some things that
we just don't even have. -Like what?
-Best Buy. -Best Buy.
I got to get down with Best Buy. -It's just so different
from anything I've ever seen before. -What have you done so far? -We've been driving around
in a supercar, which is amazing. -When you arrived here, I was like, "Oh, are you the Blue Mini Cooper?" He was like,
"We're in the Blue Mclaren." -[laughs] -I hear this rumbling assuming that
it's some kind of work truck or something, -and you pull out from behind them.
-Vroom. -Rrrrr. -I felt like such a snob. [laughter] -Then you get out wearing the jacket. -Corpse gave me this jacket -and these chains.
-You were dressed by Corpse for this. -Corpse dressed me for this video. -When did you first start streaming? -I started streaming three years ago, but it only really took off
like a year and a half ago. -What was your first content
on the internet like? -It was me and my friend,
we played a server called Mineplex. We would record like
five, six-minute videos a day. I put them into movie maker
and upload like five a day. -Did they pop off?
-No. One of them got six views once -and I shat myself.
-Can you pull those up? -I can pull up the ones before then. -How old were you here? -13. My friends, a dark day has become of us. War has broken out- -Yes.
-over Minecraft and it's our job to unite
all the nations once again. -Oh, you're killing me inside. I haven't heard that in so long. -Has your name online always been Tubbo? -Oh God, no. SupermanPower500 is the first. -Yes.
-After that, I was like, "No, no, no.
This isn't good enough for me." Then I went to Blue Turtle
and I'm like, "Okay." -Getting close.
-Then Spectrum XP. -The internet service in Los Angeles. -We don't have that in the UK,
so I'm like, "Spectrum, yes." Then after Spectrum XP,
came Orphic Tubbo and then-- -Awwthic like A-W-W-T-H-I-C-C.
-No, no, no. Orphic. -Orphic?
-Orphic Tubbo, and then I'm like,
"This kind of sucks. Why is my name
on Twitch Orphic Tubbo? That's too long to say." I'm like,
"I wonder if just Tubbo's available." And it was and I'm like, "Whoa." -How did your content continue to evolve? -This channel stopped
because we moved house and I didn't get internet
for two months. I'm like,
"Well, I guess I can't do this anymore." We had this one little box that I would sit on top of my computer
with a sim card on it and it would be just enough
to stream at 2,500-bit rate, at 15 FPS in 480P. I met Tommy a week
into me starting streaming. He raided me with 29 viewers
and I lost my collective shit, 40 viewers and I'm like, "Oh my God." Then he was like,
"You're amazing. Let's go MVC." Then I spoke to him
for the first time on stream and that VOD is still out there. 26 people are watching me. Jesus Christ. My follower count's literally skyrocketed. He got me, 10 followers. I remember staring at this VC having it open on discord like,
"Do I join?" Then if I hadn't clicked
that connect button, I wouldn't be here. He was the one which is like,
"Okay, this is a huge opportunity playing on our Hypixel Skyblock Island." This is before the Dream SMP. He was like,
"You need to be daily uploading." -I'm like, "How do I do that?"
-That's so much time. -I was like,
"I can't afford to pay an editor." I was very, very lucky
to find this one editor that was willing to really, really
help me with all my videos. I would stream
and I would record the videos live on stream so I could stream and record at the same time
like the Wombo Combo effect. Then we split the VOD in half. He goes it. We're watching it
at like eight times speed chopping it up. -So you can release something every -single day.
-Every single day. I managed to do this for two weeks until I collapsed
and passed out at my bed. I never really understood the phrase
"on the grind" but in those two week period-- -It means feeling like
you're going to die -constantly.
-It is. The grind is on the verge of death. I had dreams about video ideas. That's how stupid it got. I had this one reoccurring nightmare
every single night. I was running away -from the upload button.
-What? Literally? [laughs] -I did that and in that time, I managed to grow the stream
from 3, 5 viewers to 20, 40 viewers. That two week of grind
was so rewarding. -You almost killed yourself
to get 20 to 40? -Yes.
-So it paid off. [applause] Good job. Worth it. Did you have one thing
that kind of blew up or was it a consistent growth period? -Very roller coaster of emotion. I've never spoken about this before, but when I was feeling
really demotivated, I went on this website
and it was like, "Pay £200 a month
for a twitch viewer bot." I was looking at it and I'm like,
"Oh my god, is that what I need? -Do I need to buy a viewer bot?"
-To inflate it -to make it look like you are popular.
-I never did it. From my daily uploading,
I went from like 40 viewers and I stopped the daily uploading,
I went back down to 5. I was in Red Alert. I was panicking. Then I did more research about people who got caught for using viewer bot and I'm like, huh. Looking back I am so incredibly fortunate
I didn't do that. If Twitch found out,
they would have just deleted my channel. -Right and you would not be here today.
-I would not. Then one day I was at school and I was invited to SMPEarth. From SMPEarth,
I was able to get 100 average viewers. I kept the 100 viewers. I really went hard. I got to like an average of 300 viewers
on my own and then he told me
to join the Dream SMP and then Dream messaged him
from my understanding like after his first stream was like,
"Hey, if you want a mate on the server, we're looking to expand it." Then he put forward my name. He could have put forward anyone
but he chose me as well. Then my first stream on there,
I broke 1,000 viewers. -Damn.
-Then I broke 7,000 views and then after that, I broke 10,000. Then the first law stream
I broke 20,000. Second law stream I broke at 40,000,
third law stream I broke 200,000. -That's how quickly it blew up? -The jump from 40 to 200,000
was like a month. -What were you thinking there sitting--? Like did you have your numbers on? Could you see
how many viewers were in there? -Honestly, after that stream, I threw up, genuinely. Once a number gets past
a certain threshold, for me it's unquantifiable. Past 500 was unquantifiable so on that first stream, I'm like, "There's enough people here
to topple an empire. What am I doing here?" -When did you realize that you could turn this
into a full-time career? -I got my first paycheck
and I'm like, "Holy crap, I can buy a car." -In one paycheck,
you had enough to buy a car? -Yes and that blew my mind. -Did you show your parents?
-I showed my parents and they're like-- We all just kind of sat there like-- -[laughs] -Did we ever really talk about it
because my dad sat back there? I barely remember in the beginning,
you guys were convinced that the people donating
were pedophiles. Looking back,
there was some dodgy ones. -You were like 15, 16? -In hindsight,
the first person that ever donated me probably was a wrong'un
so they were right to have that. It went from one low end of the extreme
to one unfathomably high end. My sense of money has been
so unbelievably warped because I constantly go
to my mom and dad, like, "Was this too much to pay for this? I don't know how much
this is supposed to cost." -When that happens to someone, they either stay living the lifestyle
that they had beforehand, or they go the opposite way, and then they just start spending
all the money because they're like,
"I'm used to living with none. -What does it matter if I spend it all?"
-I went to PizzaHut and I had no idea what an acceptable amount was to tip. I tipped something
like 400 times the bill. -What?
-No, not 400 times. -400% more than the times the bill.
-Oh, okay, so four times the bill. -Yes. Four times the bill and I'm like, yes, that seems about right. Then I spoke about it afterwards,
they're like, 'You did what?" -You were still going to school
when you blew up? -When I was in secondary school, three days
before COVID closed it down, I had announced my Instagram
and I turned my school Instagram into my streaming Instagram. -You mean the one you used for classmates?
-Yes and then on stream that night, I announced it and I went up
300,000 followers in 3 hours. -Then everyone at your school saw it? -Like for the last three days,
I had people kind of like-- [sounds] It was the year of my GCSE,
which is the massive exam you take to get
your real-life qualification. -You're supposed to take that at school? -Yes, I was failing
almost every single class. -Because you were spending
too much time streaming? -Yes. I haven't actually told Father that
-120 hours a week? but I was failing everything. I never did a piece of homework
in my life. First, I put it into Grammarly
and swapped out all the words and then I put it into an algorithm
to change it. That's how I submitted my English homework
because I'm very dyslexic. -I see your dad over there
just shaking his head right now. -I almost managed to program
a Python thing to do it for me so I could just press go,
input the sheet -and it would do all of it for me.
-So you are more of a programmer than an essay writer? -Yes, I really cheated, which is why I was so stressed
at the exam, and then I didn't have to do them. God is on my side. -There's so much head-shaking
from your dad back there. [laughter] -Have you seen
any creepy stuff of you online? Before we continue learning
about the world of Tubbo-- -Which is criminal. It's not very nice. It makes me feel a little bit like maybe it's time to pack
this whole streaming thing up. -It's violating. -Yes. It's definitely a new level
of invasion of privacy. -I wanted to give you
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of your numbers or viewership? -A hundred percent.
It's because it's so daunting on how it's every single dashboard
you click on as a creator on Twitch has a massive green up arrow
and confetti or a red you suck, your life is. When I saw 30,000 viewers,
I'm like, "What the hell? What am I doing wrong?"
This is a pattern. There will be ups and downs, but it still made me
really not want to stream. -You were scared of seeing that -lower number.
-Yes and then hence, I made an alt channel and I streamed on there
like 12 hours a day. Then I never streamed on my main. Looking back at it now I was so stupid
and I fixed all of this. One day I went on Phil's stream
and I was like, "Phil, your viewers fluctuate
from 90,000 for 15. How do you stay unaffected by it?" He's like, "Mate,
I just turn off the view account, mate." and I'm, "You can do that?" Then he showed me how to turn it off. I have never had more fun streaming
than I have now. -Opening up that part of your brain that was dedicated
to all that worry and stress that you're giving regarding numbers, once you stopped worrying about that,
do you feel like it opened yourself up to work on all these cool things
that you're now working with? -A hundred percent.
As soon as I stopped that, the creativity I felt is unmatched
to ever before. Everything I'm doing right now
is what I've been dreaming of and been ambitious about
since I was 11 and being able to do these amazing things. Oh, I really wish
I could talk about some. There's some I can,
but there's some I can't. I can tell you if you want. -I will bleep this for you. -I'm making-- -No. Yes. How far out are we from that? -It's been worked on for quite a while now
and also I'm making a-- which covers the entire process
of coming up with the concept of the idea to-- from start to finish. -I've going to bleep all of it
and that's on my grave. -Better be.
-I will be-- I promise. -If I hype it up now, it will be ruined.
-I promise. -Pinky promise.
-I pinky promise -Sacred vow.
-I will bleep that. -This is sacred. You must get recognized a lot. -Yes, it's quite a bit. -You blew up during the pandemic. -It was a blessing in disguise. When I came out of quarantine, it was a media relentless and then my local town newspaper,
The Bogner Observer did this story on me,
where they had taken photos of me, which I don't even know
where it's from. They tracked me down
and taken photos of me. -Wait, they literally got
paparazzi-style photos, personal investigator style. -These photos were taken
when me and one of my old schoolmates -were at the arcade.
-Did you have no idea these photos- -I had no idea they were taken.
-were being taken until it was published? -Yes. I was a little bit like, "Is this just how it is
or is this wrong?" [chuckles] -Has fame taught you anything
about privacy? -I was always under the impression
that the world was wonderful and everyone was really nice. -I remember those good old days. -It dawned on me like
a couple of months ago that you know what? Not everything is safe. -It's sad when that naive side of you
gets sucked out of you. -In terms of the content thing,
I was under the impression that all the content stuff
is amazing all the time. When that was-- I was like, "Oh, this doesn't feel so good." I experienced burnout
for the first time. I was like, "Let's just sleep for 24 hours
[chuckles] for like three days." -Then, all that worked? Was that it? -Yes.
-You just needed sleep? -Just lying in my bed completely still
for like 18 hours at a time. -Just like giving yourself a chance
to not be looking at social media, -thinking about streaming.
-It's like a factory reset if you will because life is exhausting. -Sometimes existing is exhausting.
-Sometimes existing is exhausting. -Have you seen
any creepy stuff of you online? -Yes.
-I feel like that just comes
with the territory, right? No one can prepare you for what you're about to see
of yourself online the moment that you become popular
[crosstalk]. -There is some very sexual images of me
on the internet. -You are 17, by the way.
-Yes, which is criminal. It's not very nice. It makes me feel a little bit like, maybe it's time
to pack this whole streaming thing up. -It's violating. -Yes, it's definitely a new level
of invasion of privacy. The reason I signed up, especially was just to have
a nice creative outlook and I know that's quite the same
with a lot of other people. It comes with all these downsides and you never really hear much
about the downside. I feel like I'm gripping
at the very little privacy I have left. It's like I'm holding it. I'm like, "No,
I earned this privacy. Leave me alone." -How does that relate to dating -and public relations?
-There's a couple of things that I'll never talk about ever
on the internet. That is dating, relationship,
very close friends. That is the minuscule strand. I think I would lose my mind
if I lost that. Man, if I'm going to be honest
I dropped down-- -You made a music video. -You made a song for the first time.
-I did. -Was that your first song -that you ever made?
-That was the first time -I ever delved into music.
-That was your first song, Life By The Sea.
Your first song you ever made, 11 million views on YouTube,
17 million plays -on Spotify.
-Really? -I know you haven't looked at the numbers.
-I haven't looked -at that. That's amazing.
-I just looked at the numbers. -That's a 28 million
collective views/listens -No way.
-in just a matter of a few months. I shit you not. I haven't checked it
since like a week after I published it. That has just blown my mind.
I had no idea. -Would you say
that the lyrics in this song are the most vulnerable
you've ever been? -I feel like you talked about
-Yes, -so many deep things.
-when I wrote this song, this was probably the peak of me
being really stressed by the numbers. I used this as a form of escapism. You might think
you have to accelerate all the time, but realistically, slowing down
can make your content miles better. -Life is about ups and downs constantly.
-A hundred percent. It's so healthy
to always have the mindset of, "I'm going to do better than that" because you might never,
but that doesn't matter. It's about having the mindset
and the positivity. -That really does trickle down
to everything in life. Once you start getting scared
about the fall and of like experiencing moments
that aren't as great as the one before, then you guarantee yourself that you will never experience something
as great because you're going to be stuck
in that worry cycle. -That worry cycle is guaranteeing that
-A hundred percent. you're never going to be
as happy as you possibly can be, do as much as you possibly can. -It's so important to be
in a good place mentally in order to create the things you love
and enjoy creating the things you love. -You've talked about some things
that you'd never talked about before. You mentioned that
you crashed your parents' car the first time that you drove. -Sorry. -Was your dad in the car? -My whole family was. My sisters were in the back
taking "terror selfies". [laughter] -My mom was in the passenger seat
teaching me how to drive. She's like, "This is the accelerator
and this is the clutch because everything's manual in the UK. "You need to find the biting point where the clutch
and the accelerator are leveled out." Then I found it and she's like,
"Brake." I'm like, "Where's the brake." -She bought the clutch
and the gas pedal but not the brake. -Then she was screaming
brake, brake, brake. I was stressing
and doing this with the wheel and then we went right
into a grass verge. -Was the car okay?
-The car was indeed okay. -Now, I got that out of the way. Were the humans okay? -Physically fine.
-Emotionally? -That's going to--
Therapy is what they need for that. -You've gone on to sell
a ton of merch and ukuleles. -That was a very out-there idea
making for merch. -You sold out, right? -Yes, like that. The factory that
was manufacturing the ukulele was like, "You need to stop.
We can't make this many." -There's not enough trees on this planet. -They did manage to clutch up
and make them but it was so stressful. In the first three minutes
of the shop what I can say, there was over 200,000 people
on the site. -Two hundred thousand people on the site?
-Waiting in the queue. It was something ludicrous like that. -Two hundred thousand people
-Just in the queue -watching the timer tick down.
-just waiting to buy something. -I'm like, "Holy shit." See, the thing is,
after I sold my merch, that opened up so many more doors because a lot of the limiting factor
for my ambitious ideas was the money side of things. After I sold my merch, I'm like,
"Let's just go ham. Let's do it all." [music] -What are these new projects
that you're working on now that you can actually afford to them? -TubNet is my Minecraft network
which I'm working on. All Minecraft server technology
has been stuck in the micro version 1.8
which came out seven years ago. -When you were 10 years old.
-When I was 10, these servers were beginning and now there's so much more opportunity and we're able to do things which have never been attempted
in Minecraft before, such as full cross-compatibility from iPhone to Nintendo Switch,
Xbox to computer. -Has that ever been done?
-Never been done on a scale this large because the technology just wasn't there. My developers,
I can't praise them enough. They're absolutely amazing.
My team of managers, artists, they're absolutely-- There's about 20 to 30 people
working on this project. -There's a huge hole in the market.
-There's a whole team. -It feels like -it should be done by now, right?
-I know. Yes. The main thing I want to drive home
with this server is that
there's so many scummy servers, which is [?] money
and are so pay to win and promote gambling to kids. I just want to not promote
gambling to children. How hard is that not to do? EA. Sorry. [laughter] -It seems like that would be the baseline. -That's like the bottom rug.
No gambling. Obviously,
the server needs to make revenue but everything you buy you get. It's going to be focused
on cosmetics, ranks, skins, nothing that will take away
from the core gameplay, no pay to win. I'm going to run events
and I really want to drive in this new kind of era
of Minecraft competitive gameplay where we get casters
and do commentary and eSports events
streamed on a [crosstalk]. -There are no eSports that people do -with Minecraft yet, right?
-There is no eSport with Minecraft. The closest thing would be
over MCC or Twitch Rivals. It doesn't compare to having the arena,
the commentator, the casters, the teams assembled with the best people who have refined
and honed the skills that we have developed and created. -You almost want Mojang to come in- -I want him to step up quite frankly.
-and officially try to do what you're doing. -Yes. There is so much missed opportunity. In the future, if this goes well,
I'm really looking to build TubNet out into like either
a game development studio so we can actually start to change games
which I think is going to be amazing. -How much money have you sunk
into this idea? Can you say? -Sorry, it's too much to say. It's literally a black hole. It sucks away my soul, everything. That sounds like an exaggeration,
but it has taken all of it. -Is that a good investment, dad? -I'm hoping so. -Hoping so.
-He's really hoping so. I want people to play TubNet
who have no idea who I am. I want it to be
when I'm 24 and retired-- -Supper old and wrinkly and 24.
-A hundred percent. I want people to be able
to go on TubNet and be like, "This is an amazing game company. They've made something amazing here." -Regardless of your name. -Because I don't want to brand it
as Tubbo Network or something like that. I want it to be TubNet. I want it to be completely
separated from me. If you know me, you're like,
"Oh, that makes sense it's his." If you play it
and you don't know you're like, "This is amazing. This company,
every company should be like this. This should be the new precedent." -You just have so many passions
and you're excited about so many things. -I feel so excited about everything. Sometimes I find my own excitement
a little bit draining, but right now
I'm on an excitement high. -I was going through comments
in the community posts, so many people just telling me
how inspired they are by you- -Really?
-and your excitement and your passion and you're just made
such a positive impact on so many people's lives. -That's mental.
I can't even come to comprehend that. I try to focus on the good things
and it makes it a lot more enjoyable. -What do you think is
the biggest misconception about you? -I make a lot of mistakes. Everyone always comes to me
and they're like, "Oh my God, how did you succeed
at everything you do first time?" I have failed so many times. It's not first time, it's just I don't really talk
about the failures because I'm embarrassed by it. Failure is embarrassing, but if not for the failure
I would never be here. -Many people think that
when they have a failure, that means that they are a failure. -Which is not the case at all.
-Therefore it's time to stop give up that thing,
you already failed, no reason to keep making yourself
look bad or be embarrassed. -Fail and fail properly. It's about how you react to your failure. It's about getting up after you fail because you can fail
and feel bad about it. By all means, feel shitty about failing because failing
should make you feel bad because that drive you feel
when you feel bad to do better is what makes amazing things. -You got five seconds
to shout out or promote anything you want
directly into there. -Knock knock.
-Who is there? -Batman.
-Batman who? -This isn't a joke
because I didn't think about a thing. -Get him. [laughter] -Subscribe to Anthony. All of the interviews are very good
and he knows how to fall from the ceiling. -I do know how to fall from the ceiling. -He's going to teach me how to do it. -Oh, shit.
-The deal was I tell you my secret project, -you teach me how to fall--
-I've never taught anyone how to do it. -I've never told anyone before.
-Can I fall from the ceiling right now? Would you make me
fall from the ceiling? -Let's do it. -Hi, my name is Tubbo, and today, I will be spending
a day with Anthony Padilla. -Yes.
[applause] -There you have it.
I spent a day with Tubbo and among so many things,
one thing that stood out most to me is the way Tubbo sees life
through the lens of what excites him most rather than focusing
on the things that drain him. [music] -I'm working on such stuff
that I've dreamed of from-- I just spat on you.
I'm so sorry. -No, you didn't. I caught it in my mouth.
It tasted great. What? [laughter] -Does that make me a super spreader? [laughter] -We took tests. We did COVID tests. -We're tested.
