I Spent 1 Hour MAD Reacting to the Most Hated Video on YouTube

i thought this was such a stupid thing that twitch did to delete all of your content like that's nuts and like nobody talked about this at all game theorists made a video about twitch streamers maybe worth checking this one here dear twitch grow up it's bad please don't the video's full of holes it's so bad you'll read it okay we're definitely gonna watch it if people are that angry about it yeah we are a hundred percent going to watch it it's got three million views and i haven't had a chance to watch it so let's go over and uh we're gonna see it okay guys here we go she got banned no chance she was streaming avatar for like 10 hours oh my god she actually got banned what yeah her channel is gone she was watching some anime oh they got her bruh and got banned that's crazy toast got banned i just turned rachel toast bam no bro they're coming first not them me hello internet welcome to game theory the show that's not going to be asking you for bits or donuts but would love a tap of that subscribe hey up butter toast man thanks for the infinite months yo what the [ __ ] why am i getting tagged in this look at this the how are they talking about me for yeah butter toast man thanks for the infinite month's up but he used my channel speaking of going live i'm actually going to be hosting a massive live stream i find it's kind of like i mean i don't know i find it's kind of in bad taste to use my chat on the day that reckful died like i don't know i mean that's you could use any chat i mean like why do that why do that that's it's just it's a bit much man next week to celebrate the launch of our final security breach theory so mark your calendars for february 19th shortly after that theory goes live and it's not just gonna be me either i'm gonna be joined by various members of team theorists other youtubers and of course all of you as we do some live theory crafting discussing your general thoughts on the franchise and its latest release so even though i just made a joke about hitting that subscribe button you really should do it and don't forget to hit that little bell too so you're notified when that final theory drops and when we're going live costs a whole lot less than a twitch sub and with that shameless self promotion out of the way it's time to get back to the video all right it was ironic youtube has become what it is today because of its emphasis on watch time by watching my videos for a long time you help this channel if you watch another video of mine immediately following you help it even more so i make a 15 minute long video and then you watch it for longer than my 12 minute long videos that 15 minute one is likely to do better in the algorithm in very very oversized uh generally that's true right and like i don't do a lot of research on like the youtube algorithms right now i'm not 100 sure every single time but i think that is basically the case my youtube channel by the way has been doing quite well uh we've been getting closer to that two million views a day mark so we'll see if that happens by terms minutes matter which is why videos here on youtube have gotten steadily longer over the past decade yeah a platform built two minute long smosh skits got transformed into one full of two hour long video essays on nfts but then i want to say guys there's a lot of people saying skip and cringe i'm not we're not skipping it i'm going to watch the video the video is very bad though well then we'll talk about them think about it like this let's say the video is really bad let's say the video has all the things that people have said in chat it's inaccurate it gives wrong information it misrepresents things etc wouldn't you want me to watch it to talk about those things because this video has like almost three million views rolled into town like a total chad saying hey your video's over here and suddenly you just stopped super popular we're chats too we're totally down with that that's why they give them the shortcuts they conflict with our watch time-based algorithm and we ultimately have to build an entirely separate viewing and promotional experience to make them get any sort of visibility mind-blowing revelation for everyone people like short videos go figure the world has come full circle who knows maybe my ability to count all the way to 55 will become relevant again so while the rest of the internet quickly regresses back to six second vines twitch is over here as the king of long form video not just an hour long that's really funny that he would here's the first inaccuracy for this video is that i actually stream for 14 hours yeah no shot bro no [ __ ] shot streams or more yeah i should have put yesterday yeah i should put xqc though if you're on youtube that is actively what twitch wants it is what the platform demands yeah imagine like the six-hour andy when platforms like twitch are contracting them not to a certain number of videos or reviews but rather to hundreds of hours of committed streamed content every year true story i've had talks with twitch multiple times over the years because i really like streaming but the huge number of hours that i would have to commit to just pure streaming meant that i wouldn't have time for literally anything else in my life yeah that's one of the reasons why i was really reluctant to to even like go after like a twitch partnership like a a custom contract is that they want you to stream a certain amount of hours per month and i don't really want to do that i i value my autonomy very high and um yeah i think that's a it's a good thing you know because i can stream when i want obviously i forego a lot of money but at the end of the day who gives a [ __ ] uh if you if you don't own your own time then like what what does anything else matter you know what i mean and like i get that dedicate work to works playing video games like the thing is that it's not really work playing video games like it's twitch streaming is much more entertainment than it is video games like if i just sat here and played video games all day i think that'd be boring for you guys like i think the reason why twitch is entertaining and the reason why people like watching twitch is because it does more than just play video games it transcends playing video games it's not just a let's play on youtube for eight hours that's why let's plays have gone away and twitch streaming has grown it's because twitch streaming is fundamentally more than a let's play you see kind of what i'm saying uh like the two things cannot like those two trends cannot exist if in my opinion i think twitch streaming is just playing video games gameplay is boring gameplay can be really fun i think that gameplay is some of my best content a lot of times especially recently with lost ark i think we've had a lot of really fun times on lost ark but i also think that some of my other best content is just making videos and talking about them right talking about videos and just like different discussion stuff i i like that kind of stuff a lot man operating these channels in short the grind is real and streamers yeah you have to stream a lot of them are forced to figure out creative ways to fill huge gaps of time that's why over the years we've seen the rise of metas over on twitch content trends on the platform that many creators follow in order to get viewers i feel like uh all platforms have metas like uh youtube has metas too uh there always is going to be a meta like there's metas with different games there's metas with different types of like content structuring it's the same thing like in a way it's it's odd that he would use this as an example because at the beginning of his video he actually talked about how the algorithm pushed the meta on youtube with longer videos and now he's saying that there's metas on on twitch as well because they need to fill longer time slots this is the same type of thing they're just two different types of metas conforming to two different types of uh of of algorithm right one algorithm is created by the viewers and the other algorithm is created by the website but they're fundamentally the same thing of people uh like curating their content in a way to attract the most viewers or to be the most successful that it can be watching them while also filling up the massive amounts of air time that they're locked into i also think that there's a lot of uh there's a lot of people that like for example like use this example of like the gambling meta um besides like rosh train ace von dice uh [ __ ] like what's rosh's other friend's name ah [ __ ] i i don't know but like there's like another one right like aiden wrong oh aiden does gambling streams too you're right do says yeah yeah yeah that's basically it like there isn't really a huge gambling meta it's just a half a dozen guys gambling on stream because they're getting sponsored that's about it like it's not like this huge meta that everybody's doing on twitch it's just a handful of people like one thing on twitch that happens is that there's like a disproportionate amount of attention that's given to things that are considered controversial or are discussion worthy so like for example the disproportionate amount of attention that's given to uh hot tub streams like hot tub streams made up less than one percent of twitch traffic but you would think based off of the conversations about twitch that it was like half the website but the fact is that that doesn't really that doesn't really represent twitch at all if you actually look at like a lot of these things like people are like oh well cam girls are on twitch and it's just about cam girls etc if you look down here there's really not that much of that at all there's like amarath at our hot tub and that's about it like all these other guys these are just [ __ ] guys just talking to the camera and playing video games but like what people do is they zoom in and they say look at this look at this right here this is ruining twitch it's not even on the uh it's not even it this is like a spec on twitch this is nothing it's just such this tiny little one percent and people blow it out of proportion it's the same thing with a lot of metas too right asmr well asmr let's look at asmr i think that's another great example asmr is down here with 12 000 viewers it is below overwatch it is below uh dark souls 3 it's below world of tanks it's below uh music it's below pubg asmr like for a br for a let's go we'll zoom in this is what actually i'm not gonna do it but like a person that's on a 1080p monitor will not even see this whenever they open up the screen and yes obviously the asmr section is a 100 percent uh it's a dick sucking simulator you know it i know it everybody knows it and that's what it is that's why every single person that's doing asmr is an attractive female wearing uh not that much clothes right almost every single one it's a dick-sucking simulator it is a hundred percent sexual and it's being portrayed as something that it's not i don't but like what i'm saying is that this it is that that's what it is that's what it is and i'm not an [ __ ] for that i don't even care i'm just saying this it is what it is look how many other categories are above it by miles it has 12 000 viewers lost ark has 160 000 viewers just chatting has half of a million viewers it's tiny this is like it's it's so minuscule and insignificant and people on twitch and people based off of twitch and and why is that why are people talking about it the reason why is because it's not interesting to talk about the fact that this guy is playing league of legends with it seems like no camera on but he's probably really good at the game like these guys are just playing league of legends it's just not as interesting to watch somebody play league of legends just chatting used to be worse no it wasn't it just used to have these girls and just chatting it was the same proportion they were just in a different section so i feel like the metas and everything like that are very overblown yeah they're very very overblown there have been things like the gambling meta which has taken a lot of forms from long stretches of opening loot boxes to more explicitly just plain online slots or roulettes there was famously the hot tub meadow where streamers talked or played games in hot tubs as part of a brilliant loophole around twitch's clothing requirements and it went off and spawned its own entire category of content yoga pants twister asmr mukbang even massive games like among us all guys fortnite overwatch i feel like eating food on stream isn't really that popular i mean that that like fat guy that guy's on youtube but like yeah h1z1 basically all of them fall into the category of metas also having said the word so many times already can i just say how much i hate the word meta now because of facebook you had to go and ruin another thing facebook and i'm really sorry that this happened anyway all right well you know what at least i can agree with them on one thing in the video i [ __ ] agree with that definitely instant search for the latest trends that can be done for hours at a time is it any surprise that one of the hottest things from 2021 to top of 2022 has been reacting to tv shows it's easier to produce you don't have to play anything or rely on audience participation you can just sit there you can watch a show that you enjoy and you can really focus in on your witty banter or not anyway i think you can you can always pause like for example like you can pause a video of me right like i mean i the odds are that whenever this video gets uploaded to youtube if it gets uploaded to youtube the video will probably be over 30 minutes long and you can find a 10 second clip of me not saying anything in that video i i think hassan hassan is the one that like hassan is as bad as i am he's as bad as i am like he pauses and he'll talk about something for 20 minutes and it'll be a three minute video like yes obviously there are going to be times that yes he doesn't really react a whole lot i think that's the same with [ __ ] anybody right and i will say with the tv meta uh you know i didn't really watch a lot of tv shows i never really did that uh i just i thought it was risky i thought it was a mistake and i thought that like you know it's it's like uh especially now since like we like i own an org and everything like i kind of worry about doing that because i don't want to put myself or put other people in a bad position so like that's why i don't do it i the reason why do you want to know the real reason why why people watch the tv shows it's not because it's easy content it's because it gave them a lot of viewers that's why that's the big reason is because if you watched people's viewership numbers whenever they were watching masterchef those numbers would go up they would 100 go up and i can guaran i can promise you a billion millions of dollars that if the viewer count numbers went down and people stopped watching nobody would watch tv on stream and that's why the meta [ __ ] died because people got tired of watching it over and over and over the viewership boost wasn't there anymore and the meta [ __ ] died because all of the dmca's turned out to be [ __ ] the toast one was just a [ __ ] elaborate ruse which to be honest was pretty [ __ ] good and i think a few or the other ones were just uh they were uh what do you call it they were false alarms basically that's why it went away is because people weren't watching it anymore so people stopped making the content ludwig debunked that i'd be curious to hear what he had to say because i i think that i think i'm completely right well i think ludwig's a really smart guy too so that's that's why i'm curious because i respect his opinion you might expect the tv meadow was not long for this world for as quickly as it arrived on the platform and as popular as it was it was killed off but we talked to toast about it bro toast is real lily didn't report toast wait what i thought toast said that he had lily dmca him so he could pretend like he got in trouble to advertise new merch yeah i thought that's what it was but she didn't ludwig asked toast toast wanted to fake it but was too hard to time toe spam was two days he pretended it was a 30 day i'm really confused like let's just move past this yeah i i don't know i don't want to go through like a he said she said thing let's just assume it didn't [ __ ] happen right like yeah i don't know because people are telling me i'm wrong other people are telling me yeah that's what happened i i don't really care downs and dmca notices in january pokeman got a 48-hour ban after streaming episodes of avatar the last airbender oh my god she actually got banned what less than a week later disguise toast got a one month ban for streaming death note no they're coming fast and it wasn't just animated shows either that same week hassan got a copyright takedown for streaming clips of masterchef the masterchef meta is over needless to say no one was feeling very pog champ that week so today as the dad went out of digital video it's time we had it it was fake yeah that's the thing is like they were they were fake and they're all wrong that's what i'm saying right and so like the reason why i think the meta died because like it wouldn't make sense oh the meta dies now because something that got proven to be fake happened you see kind of what i'm saying over come on come on sit down i'm not mad i'm just just disappointed and not in your streamers in you twitch they're just doing what you taught them to do but you twitch you should know better you're not a kid anymore kiddo and with that comes some serious responsibilities responsibilities to your creators responsibilities to your viewers he's wrong about this explaining why national global conglomerates that fill your pockets as a company that is run by literally the richest man in the world twitch you have no excuse to be this irresponsible grow up yes they do and i'll explain why the reason why they have the excuse is because if they do not take action on anybody breaking copyright without responding without receiving a copyright notice at the beginning that leaves plausible deniability that twitch was not picking and choosing who they would apply copyright to or copyright notices to so they would still be protected under the safe harbor laws of dmca that's why they weren't doing it they're stuck between a rock and a hard place where basically if they ban people for it without receiving a copyright notice then that means that they're legally liable because they've shown that they are proactively trying to remove and deal with copyright issues on their own so if there are copyright issues that exist on the website they are more liable for those because they have shown in the past that they have a system for dealing with the copyright violations before they receive takedown notices you see what i'm saying so basically they're doing this to actually they're not doing anything to avoid having a liability for whenever the the dmca's actually do come and also twitch streamers it's like twitch is in a really bad spot right because they have to say like hey [ __ ] don't do this don't stream tv shows in their entirety for five hours we're gonna get in trouble but if they do that then twitch could get in trouble so it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation that's the real reason why it happened it didn't happen because of some uh it didn't happen because of some like oh twitch doesn't care it's the opposite it's that twitch does care or you are going to be so grounded mister copyright and freeze obviously deal over here on youtube you risk demonetization or copyright strike that could threaten the standing of your channel so much as walk into a mall that has copyrighted songs playing in the background i hope that i i hope he's not going to use an argument as if because youtube has a draconian system that is uh oppressive and outdated and bad that twitch should also have an oppressive and outdated and bad system because i i don't really agree with the way that american copyright exists fundamentally so whenever i see that like oh well youtube has a bad system it's like a weird way to look at it is it's almost like that farming the mount right farming amount in wow it's that oh this mount has a 0.03 drop rate and we don't want to increase the drop rate because everybody has to farm it the same as i did well no that's not good for everybody else like i don't like the that's why i always let people upload my content like i don't give a [ __ ] i don't care unless it's actively hurting my content and it's actively like damaging what i'm doing like there have been people that have made close to a million dollars probably just uploading my work who gives a [ __ ] i just fundamentally disagree with the way that american culture views intellectual property i i fundamentally disagree with it literally one of the biggest reasons why music theory will never be the fourth theorist channel as much as i i'm sure many of you would like it to be yeah anthony fantano had a problem with this too actually like because he used to play remember like he used to play clips of uh of of music and then he actually had to completely stop doing even that because he kept getting takedowns which is that's [ __ ] like it it's [ __ ] because again you can't use fair use is not a proactive defense against a lawsuit pro fair use is a defense in a court of law to say that you are not guilty of a lawsuit so you can't say oh it's fair use you can't do this because you have to prove fair use in court certain types of content that are too dangerous to touch here it's stupid there are these massive archives of practically every video and audio track that has ever existed scanning in real time against your videos to ensure that you're not ripping off someone else's stuff unfairly each time you hit upload the way it works do you guys have like one of those apps on your phone where like if you're listening to a song and like you're like oh man what the [ __ ] is this song and like you click on like i have a one that's called sound hound and like so i click on like what was the last one i did uh let's see colorado by milky chance flea bla flea bag by youngblood uh well let's see i can't drive 55 by sammy hagar better days uh raged by dirty heads right and so i went through and like anytime i hear a song that i really [ __ ] like i i use this app but it tells me what the [ __ ] the song is and then i take the music and i put it on on my spotify and these are all my new songs on spotify and i have this i used to play this on stream i can't do that anymore but i have a playlist of let's see how many songs uh over 1400 songs and so yeah that's it works the exact same way is it's just an algorithm that puts your content up against basically a hundred of these apps time you press go live most of the time i know that i've done something wrong before the video even gets published because the system now scans it in advance whereas these twitch streams they were showcasing entire seasons of shows uncut unedited and honestly unreacted to every 20-minute episode available for people to watch for free for months before it ever became an issue nothing shows the difference between the platforms more clearly than ludwig for those of you don't know ludwig makes great content i love all the stuff that he produces this one video alone about how he got views to a secret channel that he created is a master class in how digital platforms rewards smart people who work hard and think critically he is a really smart really creative dude i highly recommend that was a great video i i don't think i ever watched that streamer with the highest all-time concurrent subscriber count on twitch gaining nearly a quarter of a million subscribers in a month thanks to a continuous live stream of his life where each new sub extended the length of the stream by 10 seconds but it has been 30 days 30 days total as the clock winds two minutes left i got nothing left to say but thank you so in late 20s i want you to swipe i was supposed to be an exclusive streamer here and he immediately got banned it's my third day on youtube and i got banned from streaming and banned again i technically got banned once and banned again three times not three my understanding is that it didn't actually ban him it just automatically took down the stream and then he could just go live right after that again so like because the automated system took down the stream like band is not really like the thing is on twitch and like just online banned suspended and taken down are all used interchangeably even though they're not the same thing they're three completely different words that mean three completely different things you think offensive mind you but because of copyright stuff he was reacting to top youtube videos when ping phong brought the baby shark banner down apparently dmca is going to be a little bit more of a concern than i had originally imagined it's worth noting that the other two fans he was just kind of playing into the whole thing and memeing it up but anyway i think he summed it up best here it is kind of crazy that in the first four days on youtube i got banned in the first four years on twitch i never got banned but growing pains baby the platforms are very different in how they deal with copyrighted works yes they are well the issue really comes down to twitches copyright enforcement or lack thereof i don't think anyone was truly surprised by the takedowns that happened and pokey got banned that's crazy i mean it's not that crazy what's confusing and frustrating was the inconsistency of the takedowns while pokeman and hassan were getting copyright takedowns there were others like xqc and moist critical who were still doing the same thing with no repercussions it wasn't a simple case of break the rules get clapped rather as xqc put it reinforce based on how likely it is to blow up it's why boxing stuff is extremely dmca it is the most insane i think that they only enforce it whenever they re that whenever they receive a takedown notice so it actually doesn't really have much to do it doesn't have much to do with if it's a uh if it's likely to blow up or not like and like xqc is right in a way because if it's more likely to blow up it's more likely to get more attention and if it's more likely to get more attention it's more likely to get a copyright notice right so like it's an abcd thing right like a chain of events a domino effect but i think that they only do it whenever they receive the takedown notices so the reason why he didn't get suspended the reason why uh why charlie didn't get suspended is [ __ ] simple it's because they didn't get a notice and pokemane and uh and whoever else did it's that simple i think that twitch generally i don't think twitch is as inconsistent as people make it out to be but yes there are instances where twitch there are clear instances of people breaking the rules and twitch doesn't do anything about it of course dmca out there it's like boxing or ufc it's in the takedown because they will take action in real time look at them it's the wild west nobody knows what's gonna stick what's not gonna stick and this is a guy who probably knows a thing or two about what will and won't get you a copyright notice considering that last year he got into hot water for reacting to clips of the olympics but he doesn't i remember that [ __ ] dude oh my god like that like that's the kind of stuff that i think is stupid right it is like i i can understand like sending somebody a copyright notice if it's like okay you send somebody copyright notice for watching a whole tv show got it right makes sense but like watching a clip of the olympics i just i mean [ __ ] that man that that's [ __ ] that's such [ __ ] [ __ ] man like and and like again i'm fine with people that you know want to protect their copyright to an extent but there has to be a there has to be some common sense involved with this as well raise an interesting point youtube is like an archive of the internet the videos uploaded by your favorite creators live next to grainy 240p simpsons clips uploaded back in 2007. it's about right that there's an unlimited amount of time for copyright holders to discover copyrighted material and issue takedowns conversely vods on twitch only live for 30 days max and a lot of times the streamers won't even keep the vods around at all that means that there are a lot of streamers who do not keep vods around for times that they do something bad mike uh it's like like it's it's the meme right of oh well you did something bad we'll just delete the vod you're fine like this is a very very common thing twitch uh same thing we talked about the hot tub meta which is tiny barely worth mentioning in comparison to youtube yeah well the reason why and like so the big point of difference of like why twitch has these rules and why youtube has their rules is because the youtube system is automated twitch doesn't have an automated system youtube does that's why you get hit for copyright way more often on youtube is because it happens proactively and on twitch it happens reactively most of the time when streamers do get caught it usually has to be live high profile incidents where the streamers are caught red-handed smacked down in the middle of a stream but to catch and report these incidents requires a lot more effort on the part of the copyright holder as they're probably not gonna be randomly tuning into an eight-hour xqc stream at three in the morning on the off chance that he's reacting to some hunter hunter when it does happen it's usually for live pay-per-view events like boxing and mma matches where the fight or that and also like so twitch has like remember like i talked about this it was on my second stream do you remember how i talked about how there's a youtube channel that got its stream taken down because of the fact that it had it didn't have a lot of subscribers but it had a lot of viewers twitch has a algorithm that detects whenever a new stream reaches a certain threshold of viewers and whenever that threshold the viewers is reached it basically triggers a check in the system if the stream is legitimate or not if it's being viewbotted or not that's why you see these videos or sorry these streams go up on on on on twitch and it's like elon musk is there talking to you about all you have to he's talking about crypto and he's got the best deal of your life man if you give elon one bitcoin right now he is gonna give you two bitcoins like immediately like he will immediately give you two bitcoins that's it so yeah i mean that's it so it's to stop viewbotting and it's also to stop like for example how many of you guys have watched a pay-per-view event on twitch like let's say it's like the uh the logan paul fight or something like that how many of you guys watch the pay-per-view event on twitch right it's soccer i remember soccer used to be huge on twitch so like what twitch does now is that they are actively monitoring the live feeds whenever one of these events happens or they have somebody who's actively monitoring live feeds that works for that copyright agency and then those people send the copyrights and then twitch deals with it automatically and youtube has the same thing because there's another another instance that actually like shows how this works so do you remember back whenever that guy got banned on uh sorry he got a dmca takedown by uh amazon game studios because they thought amazon thought he was advertising gold for new world in his video but it was actually the ad itself that was placed on the screen like some boomer uh person i thought that like the amazon department so the reason why amazon was able to do that is that a lot of these big companies have effectively a back door built into the the website for them so they can issue copyrights immediately and take down content immediately without twitch actually making a decision so whenever amazon did that amazon took the content down themselves it didn't go through a checks and balances system like youtube on on youtube like it would normally have it went through just amazon or it went through just disney i think disney is a great example of this too and basically they don't have uh they don't have the same type of approach to sending a dmca notice as you or i would if somebody was uploading something that we made uh in in a copyright or in an illegal way it's amazing what money can do that's right and again like i'm not i am explaining this i'm not saying that this is good or bad i am just explaining how these things happen organizers want to make really sure that the only way you're seeing floyd mayweather and logan paul dancing around each other for a rigged fight is to pay 49.99 to insert streaming service here the truth is the idea of deleting your vods on twitch isn't just something someone figured out one day to help with copyright strikes it is something that twitch has explicitly encouraged in their communications with i thought this was such a stupid thing that twitch did twitch literally gave twitch literally made a press release telling people how to destroy evidence for a crime you understand that right that to delete all of your content like that's nuts and like nobody talked about this at all what crime copyright infringement like that's a crime here in america like i'm not again i don't like the copyright system but it is based yeah that's why we love it yeah [ __ ] it dude i just thought it was just crazy that happened man that's nuts in the past back in may of 2021 twitch sent an email out to creators warning streamers about using copyrighted music and responded to quote a batch of dmca takedown notifications with about a thousand individual claims from music publishers all of the claims are for vods based on the number of claims we believe these rights holders used automated tools to scan and identify copyrighted music and creators i don't know about you but reading between the lines it seems a lot like twitch is telling streamers this is how not to get caught don't save your vods and you know what you don't even have to read between the lines because later in the same letter they outright say quote if you know you have unauthorized music or other copyrighted material in your past vods or clips we strongly i i want to say that i know on pretty good authority that twitch if you delete your vod twitch doesn't go to their mainframe and they're like oh man she had a nip slip but she deleted the vod we can't see it anymore [ __ ] now we can't ban her they have all of it saved there's a backup yeah devin nash did a video about this how vods are still available of course devin did like devon knows this stuff better than i do we recommend that you permanently delete anything that contains that material and it seems like most streamers got the message loud and clear that's just irresponsible twitch you're being a bad influence and setting your creators up for trouble that whole delete stuff because other people have automated tools and are hunting us down mentality yeah you're too big you're too old and you have too many creators depending on you for their livelihoods to play so fast and loose with the rules at this point youtube has not only managed to make a system that works for archived videos but also for their live content the systems just automatically scan live streams for copyrighted content and takes them down when necessary just ask ludwig and guess what that's not me just being a shill for youtube tiktok is working on their version heck even facebook has a version of live copyright monitoring and they're the absolute worst twitch on the other hand is just not interested in doing that according to a january report by the washington post it's a lot harder to do that i think that's the big reason is that it's a lot harder and i like the difference between like tick-tock and i think you can go live on tik-tok but what i'm assuming is that like it's way different to parse out a video than parse out a live stream so i i yeah youtube live streaming yeah it's like youtube doesn't live they also do it live you're right i don't really know if twitch will ever do something like this or not i have no idea like for me here's the truth like yes it would suck like maybe i i wouldn't be able to play certain songs at the beginning of my stream or something like that sure but for me it wouldn't really change a whole lot like i don't really give a [ __ ] that much it doesn't really affect me a whole lot uh i don't watch a lot of tv shows i just watch like different youtube videos and that's pretty much about [ __ ] it and on top of that a lot of people that watch i watch their videos they like whenever i watch their videos and i try to make this is a goal of mine right i try to make my content transformative and i try to uh you know like really give a give a fair shake to what they're doing copyright claimers will eventually force twitch's hand for sure unfortunately so as i said i don't like the american copyright system at all i find it oppressive it's yet to create its own automated system for live content id and it does not appear to be in the process of doing so that is crazy twitch you've been doing live streaming for longer than anyone if anyone should have been on the front line setting the industry standard it should have been you because guess what not only does it put your creators in the line of fire but it's shooting yourself in the foot by not self-policing by not setting the tone for how copyright is handled on your platform again like the reason why they sell they don't sell police is to create plausible deniability to remain under safe harbor laws in dmca like that's the reason the only reason that youtube doesn't do that is because they reached like a three-year agreement with a bunch of different companies and it took three years to get there and now other companies or other places like facebook etc like facebook has a very complex system too i don't really go on facebook anymore because every single time i go on facebook i see a middle-aged mom posting minion memes and then i realize i went to high school with her and i have to go lay down sing the power to third parties people who are going to be much less lenient much less forgiving damn does break in situations tell you guys it's not funny give your platform and your creators a big black eye you've been able to get by so far because you've been under the radar but now that low profile persona is fading away and this is gonna start happening more and more and also don't don't you like money twitch i know your big big boss man jeffy bezos does and probably give you a pat in the head if you earned it more maybe you'd paint one of his rockets twitch purple or something growing up as a platform building these sorts of copyright tools would likely make advertisers brands and media companies all of them more comfortable with your platform and the content on it meaning ultimately i do not care i i don't think that has anything to do with advertisers like like yes to a certain degree advertisers would be more okay with it but the fact is that copyright infringements in my opinion are not even in the top 10 for why advertisers would be reluctant to advertise on twitch and you want to know a huge reason why advertisers would not want to advertise on twitch it's because twitch has a very very rudimentary system google adsense there is a reason why people think google is going to take over the world it's because the google adsense and the google analytics and the google search engine is the most advanced and most well-designed search engine and analytics machine in the entire world and nothing else is even remotely [ __ ] close that's how you can talk about things you can look at something on another website and then the next thing you know you'll see a video on it or an ad about it or something even tangential to that on a youtube video a week later it's because youtube and google google really has such a lock on advertising and adsense and the reason for that is because because they have such a good job at making sure that they create ads that target people that want to watch those kinds of ads they have a higher success rate in converting viewers of ads into buyers of products but on twitch we don't have that everybody gets the ad i can't go to yemen i'm an analyst everybody gets the ad tell them cactus jack sent you to hell apparently nowadays and um listen what i'm saying is that the fact is that youtube has a much better way to direct viewers and direct people directly to the ads that those people are most likely to engage with twitch does not have an adsense program that is that good so whenever nike spends 500 000 on advertising on twitch they probably have a lower conversion rate of that 500 000 than they would on youtube do you see kind of what i'm saying yeah yeah and so like that's a big reason also like there's uh sexual content uh gambling content uh [ __ ] uh what do you call it and also i think a lot of streamers do get really good deals like i don't even know if this is entirely true like uh like foosley is sponsored by dr pepper dr pepper's a huge brand like we're sponsored by mountain dew which is owned by pepsico right mountain dew game fuel and like there's tons of people on twitch that are sponsored by blue chip brands all the time so this isn't necessarily true and it's also not true entirely with the ads that twitch delivers because twitch does have a blue chip ads on their platform so yeah i i think that like youtube is better at it but the reason why youtube is better at it copyrights are not even in the top 10 in my opinion ultimately more money for you and your creators just consider the meta that we're talking about today we're twitching twitch has proven in the past that non-stop streams of tv shows could work back in 2017 when they did a two-week livestream marathon of yu-gi-oh on the official twitch presents channel to an audience of tens of thousands of concurrent viewers that were monetized by frequent ad breaks give you that real authentic tv experience huh internet and the tv truly has become one in the same that may have been a one-time event but then what about the official bob ross channel that one's going strong i think this is a very bad comparison because both of these examples twitch owns the rights to do this so like whenever twitch runs something like this it's not like twitch just decided that hey we're gonna play yu-gi-oh today on the official channel no twitch owns or twitch had an agreement with the people that own the copyright of yu-gi-oh to do this it's the same thing with uh i'm trying to explain to some people putting the cool story bob thing and i think i just feel like they're being condescending to me they're like okay yeah wrap it up baldi uh we know you're gonna say yeah yeah okay baldy wrap it up come on yeah look what i mean is like well twitch is able to do this legally so it's different doing 24 and 48 hour streams of the joy of painting with each stream reaching over a hundred thousand views and yeah you can purchase a channel subscription to twitch user bob ross examples like these show that the twitch tv meta doesn't have to be a legal liability if twitch is willing to turn it into a legitimate commercial opportunity right now that's actually a good point whisper network of what shows you can get away with streaming on twitch without getting a copyright strike but instead yeah that's definitely true is that some people like there are shows that have a higher risk of getting a copyright strike it's the same thing with music like if you're playing uh i i don't know uh dream theater or you're playing uh corporal connie or you're playing sabaton the chances of you getting dmc aid are a lot [ __ ] lower than if you're playing rihanna or drake or metallica right but i feel like metallica probably doesn't really keep up with it like metallica that was the thing 20 years ago right with napster and like kazan [ __ ] but like nowadays like obviously the top 40 type songs they are much more highly uh much more highly regulated they're not even really regular but monitored they're much more highly monitored what happens when a company with a big nostalgia property decides to openly give twitch streamers permission to use their content or they did this this is a great idea and they did this with arcane because this is what i said it should happen right is like i would want to have like a sponsorship like now like the lord of the rings series there's like so much drama around it i don't think that i would but like in the future like let's say we have a new series like there's a series that i really want to watch if i could watch that on my stream as a premiere i would do that so like this literally happened with arcane pay them to do it say i don't know get a popular streamer to do a marathon of the ghostbusters cartoon to get people excited for when the new ghostbusters movie hits theaters or get popular twitch streamers to stream their live reactions to the first few episodes of a new season of tv i mean let's be honest yeah i would love to do that i think that would be really cool like i i am one of the premier react dandies on the platform like this is this is like definitely one of my main things i i love it uh why people [ __ ] on this video it's pretty good i think the re i'll talk about why people are [ __ ] on the video as well at the end of it and i'll talk a little bit about it and like the the inaccuracies and like just in general like the way that people feel about i don't think this video is as bad as people made it out to be though like i was expecting it to be a lot worse beer if pluto tv can manage to get streaming access to every random rerun out there in the universe to fill 250 channels of free 24-hour content then why not you twitch and hey you have amazon prime videos and exclusives over there well they have this but you can do watch parties watch parties suck dick because it only is available you can only participate in the watch party if you have uh what do you call it if you have amazon prime like watch parties will never grow they will never catch on they will never be popular and i understand i think who was it was it hassan that did the watch party for borat and he got like a million viewers or something like that that only really happened because twitch integrated and embedded his stream in like the amazon website or something like that these were not a hundred thousand legitimate individual people i i that and that's just the way it's the same reason why like f extra life has like a bunch of viewers it's basically it's it's view body and twitch does this they have like packages that they sell and they also give it to people on the front page too so pacora i don't know about pakora i have no idea uh he's very condescending though well i'll talk about that right i will talk about that think about getting streamers to react to those maybe drive interest in all those random art house films that you're always paying people to make or you know the good shows like marvelous mrs maisel which is fantastic and deserves more love we live in an oversaturated media environment where hype is more important than ever for getting people to care about new movies and shows and so doing stuff like partnering with streamers has huge impacts for viewership and brand awareness you think it's a coincidence that the bob ross painting challenge became such a big trend over here on youtube after the bob ross wasn't he just saying at the beginning of the stream again how there weren't metas on youtube as a point of difference between youtube and twitch that there were no metas there are metas on youtube there are metas everywhere there are metas you know what another meta is um where's the doja cat song no he clearly said wait what was this here he said youtube has met us too he never said youtube had no metas you're right he did not say that but what he did is he asserted that because twitch streams were so long that people create metas because of twitch streams being so long which is an implied point of difference between twitch and youtube this is an implied point of difference it is not direct you are right he did not say that but he implied that twitch stream revitalized his name in the public consciousness when i say that twitch needs to grow up as a platform i don't mean that and a finger wagging old grandpa matpat here on youtube knows the best kind of way i also told youtube it was time to grow up last year so it just seems to be the kind of thing that i do now dad pat's final form has truly been unlocked i know there's always going to be resistance to the idea of becoming more corporate everyone wants to be the underdog rebel who doesn't play by the rules but as we just talked about there are clearly ways to have fun and make a profit for everyone while still following the rules twitch is so close i i agree with that i think that it's like not necessarily like ads and corporations are not fundamentally bad i don't think they're fundamentally bad but i think that they usually make the viewer experience less authentic and i think that's what people are really fighting back against and that's what people are really pushing back against is not necessarily the idea that uh the the viewers are like that like we don't want corporations involved it's more that whenever corporations get involved you lose that grit you lose the authenticity and you lose a lot of the things that people like about twitch and the people that like things that people like about youtube the reason why youtube and twitch are such popular platforms and i think it's also the same reason why tech talk is a very popular platform is that the content to a certain degree and i think this is more so true with twitch than youtube because it's harder to put on a face whenever you're on a live stream for hours at a time versus you know editing a video where you look good and um top left oh that look at that dude that was a good day look at that i forgot all about that that was a good day and uh yeah anyway uh so what i was saying here is that like twitch distracted myself because i was thinking about like so like i thought about that i read lost ark and then i thought about the fire uh the the fire uh the the fox that i was fighting and then i remembered that like she had that human form where her boobs were really big and then i forgot what i was gonna say uh give me a minute guys let me let me go ahead and let me just let's just move back just for a second okay guys ah [ __ ] okay oh [ __ ] what was it gonna say oh wow that was really that you guys really got me there wow ah uh what was i saying about twitch like something about my twitch like so my copyright [ __ ] right like i don't remember i don't remember what it was but like yeah who gives a [ __ ] to getting things right but it's the creators that can really help make this final change don't just try and get away with what you can push twitch to do better to be clearer with its guidelines depart i i don't agree with pushing twitch to do better and and do the guidelines what i agree with is i think that like for example i'd love to have on what you know what an example of doing better is let me give you an example of what i think doing better is this is what i want to see more of right here this right here we don't need to see that's whenever train tweeted at 21 he tweeted at 21 [ __ ] savage and 21 savage said yeah you can play my [ __ ] like that's what i want to see more of i don't think that it it's gonna come from the platform i think that it's gonna come from guys like me guys like train like i would love to like for example like next time uh i don't know tool comes out with a new album i would [ __ ] love to have them on my show and like talk about the album talk about like my experience with the music maybe have like a couple of my friends on dude and like play the music that would be really [ __ ] cool yeah so this will be in 10 years right exactly so that would be [ __ ] cool and i don't think that i don't think that's out of the question i don't at all uh run thank you very much to the 10 gifted subs thank you very much thank you thank you thank you it's the same thing with like other uh other types of music as well and just like that's just the first band that i can think of off the top of my head like sabaton right i [ __ ] love sabaton so like if i could ever do that that would be really really cool so i think that these integrations are actually going to come from they're not going to come top down they're going to occur within individual communities you know what i mean like that's what that's what i'm about man uh nightform97 thank you much the five get the subs i appreciate that yeah and so like because i would want to advertise their stuff right and in a lot of ways this was one of the biggest arguments that i made with content is that by playing the music there are people that say every time that i would play the last stand by sabaton people would be like bro what is that i need this [ __ ] i i need this like this song makes me want to reclaim the holy land like like come on man like i and and they would go and they'd listen to the music they'd download the music and like every day i felt like sabaton would gain new fans through that right and i think that there is a mutual benefit there absolutely is because if there wasn't a mutual benefit then you wouldn't have game companies paying streamers to play their games the reason why game companies do that is that they know that that promotion is valuable so yeah i mean i think that's a it and it's good for everybody right and that's the thing is it's good for everybody and i think that's the big reason why i'm against a lot of the copyright systems that the the us has is that i feel like they're reductive not only towards creating new content but they're also reductive towards people that want to grow their content and their content is necessarily not owned not necessarily owned by them like kanye west had this problem uh a number of other artists have this problem where they don't own the masters of their own work partner with more companies the point is at the end of the day it's great to be a rebel but once you have people depending on you their lifestyles their homes their families their employees you have a responsibility to be a good partner to them as a business leader absolutely i don't think anyone could claim ignorance or reasonably argue otherwise oh yeah a hundred percent like if you're watching a tv show on stream you know what you're doing like every single person knew exactly what they were doing stationary thanks to the 10 gifted subs i appreciate that thank you very much and actually if i ever did want to have sabaton on my stream i think jay the bard is actually uh he knows people in the band right so i could probably actually do that so we'll we'll see what happens maybe one day that will happen but all i'm saying is that uh yeah i mean i i don't think that and this is like a a perspective thing and this is like advice that i i give to people and you know i don't know if it's accurate with everybody of course it probably isn't accurate with everybody but just in general advice that i try to give people is like try to take bad things that happen to you or things that are setbacks and turn them into advantages or find a way to make it work for you right and my dad taught me this like you know find a way to make this work for you and i think that this is a way that it could actually work for content creators and it could actually be better than what we have now you twitch share in the blame for creating an ecosystem where exploits and under the radar tactics take priority over responsible growth yes to that too and it's especially disappointing when there are so many other cool opportunities that you could be working to build for the benefit of everyone so get out there kiddo make better choices there bud mom and i will be rooting for you from over here but hey that's just a theory a game ming platform theory thanks for watching and here is just a final reminder to subscribe hit the notification bell and mark your calendars for you so you don't miss that security breach theory as well as the live stream that follows it's been a long time since we did one of these massive theory crafting collab streams literally seven years in the making so be there to spam the chat with i was there plus the last time we did something like this scott crashed it with lore hints so maybe history will repeat itself i don't know steel wool what you doing next saturday so one more time that's next saturday february 19th our final security breach that already happened yeah it already happened incredible live event subscribe hit the notification bell we'll see you all then i i so what let's talk a little bit about this video and i'm going to link the video i mean obviously you know do these guys really need promotion i mean they got 15 million subscribers they got more subs than i do right but like it's a good video i i don't think it's really that bad at least uh there were inaccuracies and i think that like yes obviously whenever the top like these are all corrections and clarifications of the content like if you put out this many clarifications and corrections to the content uh that you made i think that the reason why you do that is because the uh the person making the content has an agenda behind it and they have a perspective that they want to uh they want to promote they want people to think the way that they think and i think that's kind of what happened as uh you know this video the reason why i think people didn't like this video i'll talk a little bit about why i think people didn't like it the reason why they didn't like the video is very [ __ ] simple i think that a lot of people disliked it because it was youtube criticizing twitch and people like keemstar and other people out there as well have created this idea that youtube streamers and twitch streamers are two different groups of people i upload on both platforms most of the like this guy in didn't he end his video talking about like a live stream that he was going to do potentially on twitch or something like that like i don't know i'm sure this guy probably has a twitch channel too so it's to a certain degree a level of tribalism i think also it's people that don't like seeing their content get criticized or their streamer get criticized and i think also it's people that are worried about having a having content degraded again like to lose autonomy and to lose control of what we can do on the platform just categorically like just categorically people don't like losing control over what they can watch and what they can see on the stream and i think that's the biggest reason why people were upset about it that's the reason why they weren't happy about it i think that's the main thing also the video did come off in many cases like condescending like talking about how he's like the dad of it it's just it it is kind of condescending in a lot of ways and i think that people could very easily interpret it that way and again like also at the same time because it had a lot of inaccuracies there are people that were like okay so it's this condescending video that got a lot of things wrong [ __ ] this guy as i said before i try to i try not to take things at face value and i try to like listen to what somebody is trying to say not necessarily what they do say and i'm just yeah it's just what i'm used to doing right it's like you kind of have to translate you like translate the biases out of it to have the conversation about the idea and that's kind of the uh that's that's what i try to do okay obviously it's not what i always do it's hard to do this but it is a goal of mine that i try to achieve so yeah that's where i am and let's see here if i can read a few of the comments and then we'll move on to the next video we'll watch something else most people see something they don't like or don't agree with don't even finish the video and make their idea of it well it's not just that i think that it's also the fact that there's a lot of people that see something like this and they just don't like copyright i think that's the big reason yeah i think they just don't like copyright the same as i don't and so they look at somebody who's like okay well this thing you know i don't like this thing well then okay well now what right i i don't know let me see what the hell the rest of this is i don't see there's why so much drama about the video uh i'll see what some of the comments are and we'll read those like better stream with broken a rules i'm being permanent band will small streamers get perm banned when they slip up once this is like i i think this is like the dumbest thing to say in my opinion like oh wow somebody who makes the company millions of dollars is treated differently than somebody who doesn't like yeah of course people that are more important and more famous and make more money get better treatment that's the way it goes in all the world everywhere and it will never be it will never be different it is the same as all the things i remember people thinking that hillary clinton or somebody like that is going to ever go to jail or donald trump is going to ever go to jail no they're not like you know what i said this is bobby's world and we're living in it it's the same thing on twitch this is the way everything in the world works yeah it's just the the more important you are the more money you have the more influence you have the less you have to follow the rules that's just it is what it is uh and again youtube has the same thing youtube has the exact same thing like how many other streamers would have probably gotten permabanned for the pewdiepie bridge thing on youtube like i i would assume that there would be a lot of other people that might have gotten permaban for that on youtube but pewdiepie didn't you know why because he's pewdiepie that's why so let's see here complaining youtube too stricken sold out matpat complains twitch isn't strict and sold out uh it's hard to say say matt uh it's mad matpat suggesting twitch start being like youtube's trick copyright handling legally hand money to one company that made them copyright so strict in the first place disney yeah it sucks it definitely does um let's see if i can read the rest of these feels completely wrong to keep this uh up without edits oh right that it was inaccurate yeah and this is like the problem with like putting out videos and just like in general like having videos that are like a good thing with an article for example is that you can edit an article like if you have like an article written out and there's something inaccurate in the article you can just type delete and change what the article says but the difference is that on youtube you put the video out and the video is like a crystallized form of of entertainment or media and you can't go through and like edit this out or put this note in you can to an extent but it's not as it's not as effective as it would be in writing an article i understand that you can but can we both agree that it's not as effective in right as writing an article youtube used to have annotations yeah yeah so i i know that it is it is there but to compare it to being able to write an article is not true uh let's see so much in this video is simply untrue it's awesome nice disclaimer in the description that no one will read and this is what the problem is and so like i actually ran into this issue and uh like this is why it's so important to make sure that whenever you do videos that you have accurate information and it's especially bad whenever you have a story that's unfolding and you cover the story and then people get one impression of it and then it turns out that that impression is wrong so i'll use an example basically whenever new world sent that one guy a dmca i made a video and i was really critical of dmca of amazon assuming that they did this on purpose right and i said again assuming they did on purpose everybody in the chat was like [ __ ] amazon [ __ ] amazon [ __ ] amazon amazon sucks i hate amazon right and they assume that it was all completely intentional well amazon came out and they rescinded the strike and they apologized to the creator and all that stuff happened so i took that original video down because that video was then at that point misinformation so i put up a second video and people got upset about that because they said well amazon made you take down the video i said no i took down the video because i thought that like what i really didn't like and this is something like you guys probably see on twitter a lot where like there'll be an article or like some sort of thing happens it'll be like massive horrible [ __ ] story this crazy terrible thing happened and it'll have 40 000 likes and then the correction to it the addendum to it that actually contextualizes it and makes it not as crazy has 1k likes so these people are like yes they do issue a correction but they never delete the original content that was trending in the first place so people still believe that it's true it's like a pro jared is a good example of this pro jared uh got accused of a bunch of stuff that seemed to not be true but people didn't really read the correction they didn't read his side of things they just heard that this happened and he never got a chance to really defend himself so what i try to do is i try to remove the information that i find to be no longer accurate or that portrays a false uh a false image of the of the situation right of what happened and i thought this was a fair thing but then people accused me of being in amazon's pocket they accused me of hiding information they were like why did you take down the video are you a [ __ ] like what if they were lying to you et cetera and i could not convince those people that what i s that my perspective was right but because there's yeah they just don't care right again you can't argue you can't use logic to argue a person out of a position that they didn't use logic to arrive at in the first place so i cannot logically explain to them my thought process because these people do not use logic it's that simple it's like going up against brock in [ __ ] pokemon and you pick charmander guess what you're gonna have a bad [ __ ] time killing that onyx because that onyx is basically immune to fire damage and those guys were a whole lot of onyxes it just doesn't [ __ ] matter what you do you can't tell them anything so all i'm really trying to say here is that the whole situation with this is uh he's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place if he takes down the video then people will criticize them if he keeps it up they will criticize him uh that's why it's so important to make sure that like especially with information like this that you have it right in the first place and uh mo thanks for the 20 gifted subs man i appreciate it uh thanks a lot thank you thank you thank you in germany there's a rule for news that if the spread of misinformation they have to make it right in the same size and at the same place in a news article yeah well we we live in america and misinformation is called the news so um i and also like i don't know like there could be [ __ ] in germany too i am not willing to accept that america is the only dystopia for wrong information i think that there is misinformation everywhere in the world i think that every country engages in propaganda and misinformation towards its population i do also agree that there is a difference between the level of propaganda that somebody in china receives versus somebody in north korea and i also agree there's a difference between somebody in like let's say great britain versus america or maybe brazil like there is a spectrum of this but i think that all of it does exist above the number zero does that make sense uh let's read a few more and then i want to move on again this is a topic that of course it concerns me a lot of you guys might not really give a [ __ ] about it as much as i do but you know i stream and so i care about this a lot i like talking about this i think it i think it's interesting you guys might not know this but i was a um i was going to uh i was going to school i wanted to become a lawyer and i actually wanted to focus on intellectual property that was like one of the things that i i really i felt strongly about so this is something that i i'm passionate about and i'm interested in yeah we know yeah yeah explaining to my dad that i was going to uh not go to law school and instead make videos about world of warcraft he says all right all right okay oh you're gonna do it he supported me though he did my dad supported me i uh first stream i ever did first stream i ever did i tell my dad the night before because you know this is back whenever i streamed in the am and i told my dad the night before oh [ __ ] let me scroll down make sure i'm over here okay i told my dad the day before i'm like dad i'm gonna do a stream and my dad's like what's that and i told him i'm like it's where people watch you play video games like they'll watch me play wow and i was like man i'm going to show them how good i am right and my dad's like wow literally who cares why would anybody watch that why would somebody watch somebody else play a video game and i said i don't really know but they do so my dad's like okay well just don't want to get in the way of work they don't want to get in the way of school i said okay dad i won't do that i screamed that night the next day my dad and i go to wendy's for lunch we would always go to wendy's for lunch i'm talking to my dad and my dad says so how did that thing go that that like a thing the thing the video uh the live video thing that you did the stream and i'm like oh i made 150 my dad says what i tell him i'm like yeah i made 150 and he asked me he says well what were you selling i told him nothing he said then why the [ __ ] did they give you the money i tell him i don't know [Music] i don't know and then after that he says all right well you're gonna you're gonna be on again tonight too right and that was the day my dad became my biggest fan and then later on after that so i go and you know like obviously like my dad knows about train wrecks you know i you know i've i've known train five five years i still got the picture of us together over there right on my wall and um i tell my dad i'm like remember i'm not you remember taiwa right you were trying my dad's like yeah of course i'm like you know trains making a mill a month for doing gambling and my dad's like is that right and i'm like uh yeah yeah i haven't i i don't do it though he's like so uh the thing is gambling's not really that bad i mean i used to gamble a lot on like poker and stuff and uh you know gambling it's uh it's not really that bad of thing and the fact is that you know sometimes you do win and it's not like you never win i mean yeah you might not always win but sometimes you know you know that's what it is man that's what it is and so i'll have to get my dad on stream one of these days and get him to uh to talk to y'all and uh tell some [ __ ] stories and uh we're dad yeah yeah that's about it when does the gambling start oh it's in like uh probably probably whenever next time he's over he'll be like yo come come do it right and uh what's this here gambling's legal in texas i i mean who gives it it's with crypto right it's monopoly money and uh yeah talk about how you made 150 in the first stream yeah yeah so i this is my first stream that i ever did sorry i'm gonna tell this story real quick and i'm gonna i'm gonna go on and like i told my dad and um i was like man like this is what i did and he's like so they just sit there they watch you play video games all day i'm like yeah that's crazy right and i kept doing it over and over and over and i told my dad there's like a point where i was like this is before i got my sub button and i was making like it was a lot of money i was making like ten thousand dollars a month like streaming with like no sub button just do donations and my dad didn't really believe me i i think that he legitimately did not [ __ ] believe me and he would come over and he would sit on that sofa right there and he would do what he always does he would pass out and he would watch me stream and there was one time i was talking about so like whenever i was a kid my dad introduced me did you guys ever have like the jar of like jet puff marshmallow cream so my dad had like a he he introduced me to this and he just wanted me he's like yeah check this out and like after i got older i was like well [ __ ] i love this this is this is delicious this is the the most delicious thing i've ever had so i bought it for myself and i'm talking about it on my stream my dad's like this you talking about that marshmallow cream i might yeah the stuff that we used to get i'm like yeah yeah and like so anyway my dad's like hold up wait a minute so you have some of it i'm like yeah yeah i have it he says where is it i'm like it's oh it is it's in the fridge and this is what he says can i see it as if he just wanted to look at it as if he just wanted to look at it and i hand it to him and that was it it was all [ __ ] gone man that [ __ ] was done yeted and deleted that [ __ ] was finished uh done and uh so for six or five subs man i appreciate that thank you thank you thank you your dad dude no the thing is like after i told my dad i regretted telling my dad how much money i was making because like my dad used to you know like we used to go out for did we we still go out for dinner right i mean i i t my dad and i go out for dinner like at least once a week usually twice a week and um we always have and he used to pay for my meals and then one of these days like i must have told them that like oh man you know i got like a two thousand dollar donation today or something like that my dad's like is that right and so next time we go over we went to bill miller barbecue and my dad's like i'mma go sit down yeah i'm gonna go sit down just go ahead and get the food and so then yeah so like now now my dad's got me paying for all the [ __ ] food too and then i call him out on this and then he turns around and he says well hell yeah i am i'm an old man on social security you're gonna make me [ __ ] pay for everything and i'm like actually you're right you you know so he [ __ ] turns that [ __ ] around on me yeah yeah and i'm like okay all right fine it is what it is yeah it is what it is you repaying them for years of free [ __ ] that's why i i got no problem with that man like i i mean that that's what you do right it's the same thing with my mom like people always ask me they're like oh man like why you know aren't you mad that like your mom doesn't have like a job doesn't do anything doesn't work right it's like no it's my mom i take care of my mom i take care of my family like it's just it's it's not a decision it's just what you do like like i don't actively make a decision to do this it's just it's just what happened servers up no they're not up [Music] you

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Length: 74min 34sec (4474 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 22 2022