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we're in a very Prosperity kind of gospel environment where it's blessing blessing blessing so there is blessing pressure so people want blessing at any cost and then it also works for the clergy it's business you can imagine you go on a Sunday and you come out of a service two hours with half a million what would and the people you are lying to excited being lied to you just need to do a few things look for expensive suits look for protocol bouncers create an image we are not caring for the Sheep we are manipulating the ship to care for us so at that level we we don't care so we begin to associate with the ship that has more money the the weak ship and the broken ship is not part of our congregation so we look at the beneficial ship when you go to a church be take career before you even sign a membership before you even begin to say I'm a daughter take care Lynn you come to my house one day I'm an angel that one day in my future wife yeah so so stay in that church you know observe oh foreign [Music] welcome to LNS my name is Lynne googie now you asked for him and today we have him on the show the conversation around religion brainwashing you know all those manipulation toxic toxic toxic religion is something that we have been covering here on our platform but then again we all go to who else would help us now wind up this series than our own person someone I truly respect and admire someone who is no stranger here on the show to come and break it down for us so that we might be able to learn and also understand what even ourselves what are we doing wrong and where do we go from here and of course without further Ado allow me to let him reintroduce himself hello wow thank you very much how are you it's been a minute I'm fine thank you it's not been a minute it's been on me it's been a minute yeah yeah God for the opportunity Pastor team one is the name uh still preaching Christ and doing what the Lord has called us to do in our generation yeah and we bless the Lord yes yes good to have you here the long-awaited conversation I say that okay next year because we we highly appreciate your contribution to the show yes and as always me I want to sit back and let you walk us through this conversation but even before we start is religion brainwashing a thing Amani too going by the definition yes religion is man-made way of trying to reach God so anytime we use that name religion then brainwashing is automatically something that can be found in religion because it's a system that man has set in in place and is a system that man is trying to introduce to Men on how to reach to God uh if we break it down and come to what we may call now Christianity and whatever we are seeing in Christianity it is not something new uh you know they say you need to understand the history for you to predict the future so looking even at the Bible times and looking back in the days it's not the first time we are having funny men funny characters and also finally follow us because they all fall in the same category so these things have been there they are there they are prophesied they're documented in scripture and it's a sad reality that sometimes we ignore them so the first thing we have to define the offices that are there in the Bible we have pastors we have prophets we have Apostles uh and then evangelists and teachers so when we most of the times the pastors deal with the congregation so you find they are called the Shepherds they deal with the people directly then we have the prophets majority of them have what we call the the intelligence of the future and who look at them independently and then we have the apostles and most of them deal with teachings and Doctrine very deep truths teaching is a general Grace you can be a teaching Prophet a teaching Apostle you can be a teaching Pastor uh evangelist most of the times they carry the message of encouragement and that's why they are mainly connected with Harvest now this is in Ephesians 4 uh from verse 8 going down we see that God gave those to be there so when we come to Christianity there is spirituality and then there is relationship okay now spirituality is a product of spiritual disciplines even witches satanists Freemasons all of them exercise spirituality and Christianity has an element of spirituality now spirituality is the ability to access and the ability to have interactions with what we call the realm of the spirit we all agree that there is a realm called spiritual and that realm we have now the demons and we have the angels that never fail so that realm is areas lead inside and it has a side that is still functional so when Christians are dealing with that realm uh it also has a lot of informations and Revelations so it is possible for believers to access that real but it is also possible for witches it's Sorcerers and wizards to access that real and that realm is governed by laws laws simply means if we train you that's why witches are trained if we train you it's possible for you to access that triam and now come and use the Bible as your backup to try and explain things of that real so now there are people who know the protocols of accessing the spiritual realm and they come with intelligence they come with things that are amazing to the realm of men and and they tend to be believed and now that opens a door of manipulation when you go to Witchcraft they call business of Witchcraft is manipulation manipulation simply means you do something without your concept so there is a force that forces you to do something like there is a force that makes you wake up go and spend your money in a club waste your life and the same thing can also be used on this other side now coming down to our audience not many people are able to access the spiritual realm and it is exciting by the way there is a part in man ordained and created to function and connect with the spiritual realm really yeah yeah there's a part that just gets excited when the supernatural happens whether born again or not born again where anytime you just see Supernatural or someone comes and tells you a lingo gay I see I see there's a part of you that kind of feels wow there's an excitement so now what happens is that when we begin with the very office that has been misused and abused the prophetic office the office of the prophets now in in in the office of a prophet we have prophets and we have seers and they're all in the Bible now the being a prophet it is government or governmental simply means when you meet a prophet a genuine Prophet that man does not need even to pray or do anything he will just tell you what God is saying at that time and that person has authority over what they are saying a good example I meet a prophet a genuine prophet and he tells me I see a dark cloud and I see death and he rises and says but in the name of Jesus that dead will not take place and that's what the Bible says by the word of a prophet Israel was delivered word and by the word of a prophet Israel was established because that Prophet was an authority so so he didn't need to force himself and Prophets don't prophesy to entice people they are from God they are telling people what God is saying and they also Prophet to also take the demands of men to God so when you meet a genuine Prophet he's Territorial and he has command he has Authority he can speak and things will happen now they are also now what we call see us and that part is in the Bible majority of the prophets in the bible came with Revelations and that's why we read their books because Isaiah wrote Jeremiah wrote so they came with Revelations and taught the people and then we had to see us a good example is a story of Saul Saul is looking for lost donkeys and Son asks is there not Sia see us deal with social matters uh there is war in the office who's behind it and my family is going through kills so they see they see they will tell you whatever they are saying so many see us have intelligence but many see us they have intelligence they can give you Solutions but they have no power like a prophet to really break the matter Asia will come and tell you the reason why your show is struggling is because there are people accusing you and there are people who've gone to get Witchcraft and then they will tell you what you need to do is now intensify in spiritual warfare but a prophet will tell you someone has gone to the witch but now we cut that witchcraft Force down so see us give you information and so and and and that seeing seeing ability is something that you are trained that that's when that's where now diviners come that's where now witches come you know that's where the spirituality comes that you can see with the eyes of the Holy Spirit and you can also see through other eyes so many people who propagate as prophets are see us some are genuinely see us from God God has permitted them to see but when you know I may sneak in the realm of the spirit so they see but they are there through protocols that are not bibilical they fast they consecrate themselves but their motive is not even to glorify God is to build their own Empires and majority of the people that project themselves as prophets today majority are seers they have truth but they don't have the spirit of truth that's where discernment comes that I can come and tell you you see your lingo game but I am prophesying with a familiar Spirit now because you're lost spiritually you'll say this must be a man of God and it is there in the book of Acts I think acts 16 the Bible says there is a lady who brought fortunes to her Masters and when Paul was preaching that lady went and said ah these are men of God and she kept on saying that one day Paul got tired and said no and commanded that Spirit it was a familiar Spirit the lady was saying the truth because the lady said these are men of God and they have brought us the way of Salvation and the lady used to tell the business people truth about business and they made profit so whatever she carried was truth but the source of her intelligence was not the spirit of truth that's why now you see the moment I have intelligence I can merchandise it so that now you want me to see majority that's where now diviners fall that's where which is fall even in Islam we have people called what a pigaramily and is seeing someone sees they see a few things and they tell you this and this and this is happening and and now when you hear that you get excited I see kdd you're not your your IDs to this you you live in a White House I'm now in your bedroom you know without those things I'm really afraid you have mangoes at the top and people are like wow Professor a man of God those are just here and then after that you realize they don't give solution and even they don't give solution and they will tie that sin to a seed so now now this year's majority have merchandise becoming a prophet is by ordination God must anoint you but many seers now adopt the name Prophet because the only thing you know of a person who tells you about the future is a prophet now those are the seers they see and they are seers of God who see and they tell people this and this is happening let's pray but there are people who now see and commercialize and merchandise and when you look at the West West Africa Nigeria Ghana it's a very active spiritual area Divine us and intercessors are real so there are people who come from that terrain some are genuine seers others are seers through other protocols but they are carrying the Bible and that's why they merchandise yes now you see someone will come and give you intelligence and now conclude with his own ideas you know God is saying we need to raise a seed God is saying for you to break this this and this need to happen now majority of the people that have interacted with Sears some of them have lost money they have lost resources because they were excited and majority of funny see us they never prophesy good they will tell you whatever I see in the spirit Lil you should be a Millionaire right now there is a spirit from your mother that is holding you and the Lord is saying you raise a sacrifice and you know it's true and tell you your mom is called so and so I'm in your village I'm seeing this house and you're like yes prophesy and then fear comes and when fear enters faith is out intimidation manipulation is automatic fear enter yes fear enters because now you are giving me too much information and and it means now my life is visible in the spirit which is very possible we even witches do those things which is very possible and so you see that becomes a dove manipulation the second thing is there are people uh because of their rank like right now I'm a preacher I pray I study the word I've been in faith for a while so I have a spiritual rank so there are people because of their rank in the spirit at least you need to get very clearly in the realm of the spirit you achieve ranks by functionaries of what we call spiritual disciplines like uh if today a witch it's possible for a pastor to be in a territory and preach the gospel but because he's not growing spiritually it's possible for him to be to be in a territory where a witch is stronger than that Pastor because the pastor is not growing spiritually and then there is a witch here whose fasting living some levels so he might have a certain rank this one was because she had grown in such a rank one media station it went it was live on TV it went black and everything was there batteries nearly so she had around she had literally withheld cannot he took prayers for her to be kicked out and that's how it cannot open now by the way people don't understand spiritual breaking of territories and and many other things so you realize though a church is there but they had not grown in rank so the realm of the spirit is very governmental that's why when demons saw Jesus they bowed and said we know you why because in the rank Christ is Above All Above principalities powers and rulers of Darkness that is why even if a demon is sent by the devil for an assignment and you invoke the name of Jesus with the Revelation and the rank that demon will Abode the assignment because another Authority has spoken so they are men spiritually out of spiritual discipline not character just disciplines understanding sacrifice understanding sound understanding consecration they have a rank in the spirit so by the time you come to them and maybe you're being disturbed with something of a lower rank they have the power to deal with that in spirituality we call it the law of counter let me explain it with the framework of Witchcraft uh you see there is a witch who can do something and you you you get a referral to go to another witch like someone has Bewitched you your business is dying and then they tell you there's another more powerful witch so you referred to another powerful witch and when you go to that witch they will see atakoponia and then that witch will be able now to revoke and reverse whatever was done by this which and there is even a time you go to a witch and the witch will tell you I can't deal with that because the one that did that is above me in rank so I cannot undo what has been done so you have to look for a person of a higher rank for you to do that so there are men who are in charge and they've mastered remember we are dealing with spirituality they've mastered spirituality and they have attained a certain land so they are able to deal with some certain forces from a level of rank so you come and maybe you have struggle in your job and they say now I release you go and prosper and boom you come and see things are happening and then the next thing a door open now the door opened not because of your rank because of his rank because he's the one who said let the door open so right now you want a deal with a media house and according to my rank I can I can release a word and open that door so you will go and say Percy when you prayed the door opened and then the next thing now you come with a seed then what begins in that door remember you are dealing with my rank so you can't fight those battles because I've not trained you to come to my rank so when Battle Break you must be tied to me so every time there is what I have to speak every time there are cures I have to speak and what I've done I have now tied your destiny to my gifting so you can't move and the day you leave me things collapse because there is no rank speaking over you and that is a place where there are people who know their rank in the spirit and they are doing business with that and so they are like yeah I know and they will tell you leave this church will die because they know they've tied you they've never trained you how to pray for yourself they've never taught you the word of God so yeah now you build on a system called my Prophet my prophet and all you do is serve with your with your with your seeds and every connection every level you must go with your seed now this is laziness to the believer because these ranks are achievable by the believer but because they don't want to lay back now there are people who've labored on their behalf and they are harvesting on their behalf that's why in Galatians the Bible talks about false brethrens people who don't want to pray they will make money they have no problem coming with a hundred thousand so they don't want to pray they don't want to read the word they don't want to do anything they want yes you do it for them and they will understand there's a man of God who will help you some of these are not even their shrines they are like Cults people come and pack because because men again are desperate for riches so charge some some spiritual centers have been have been converted into merchandise centers I'm telling you that because I've seen people come to my office and I said I want to I want to raise an altar you when you pray you are God he will answer and I don't refuse because of my dealings in prayer there is a rank God will give me and it is true the people are Shepherd there there are times I will bless them and because of that covering things will open up but remember my shepherd I'm more concerned about the welfare of the flock when you feed the flock this is what Jesus told Peter uh uh Peter do you love me said yes I love you must I said feed the lamp God does not give you a sheep he gives you a lamp I am a young one so the only thing you do as a chef and you invest in that love so that it can grow and become a sheep then he said do you love me take care of my ship when it's a sheep you take care then he say Do You Love Me Now feed my sheep three times so you feed you take care then you feed again so what does that mean many people are milking lumps you know that that's abuse because there is an age where alarm is mature to release milk and it is not forced when it is well fed Allah will go to the owner to be milked when it has a wool if that rule of us stays it is not helpful to the lamb to the Sheep but now what is happening is that we are not caring for the Sheep we are manipulating the ship to care for us so at that level we we don't care so we begin to associate with the ship that has more money the weak ship and the broken ship is not part of our congregation so we look at the beneficial ship because there is no relationship so if you love Jesus you'll take care of his flock that's how Jesus knows that we love you but if you don't love him you will see his flock as a point of benefit and that's what the Bible says they will come in my name and say we healed in your name Jesus will say depart from me you workers of iniquity you are reward was with men so even as they are receiving the seeds and I'm not saying seeding is bad by the way we need to get that clearly as they're receiving as they are merchandising and putting a price tag on Miracles and prophecies heaven will tell them at least you you are paid whatever they paid you that's enough so now eternity we have not dealing yeah the books are sealed so that's the place of the Seer so you have a prophet governmental we have a Seer one that sees and you can see and it is God and you can see because you you have demonic intelligence and you still say the truth but the spirit is not the spirit of truth then we have what we call backslidden Prophets so you you you you are governmental or you are then you backslide remember you don't lose the gift what you lose is Authority not the gift not the gift so still there are things you are able to access but backsliding of a prophet the first thing that is hijacked is the motive of a prophet that is the first thing people can prophesy but their motive is money this is what they say a true prophetic child knows they need to honor their Prophet but a true Prophet does not manipulate the child to honor him so is it making sense a lot of sense when you raise a prophetic child they know they know when a word comes over my life yes and that word will benefit me I need to honor the source yes you know and that honor is not in a certain percentage is according to what God has blessed me but a true Prophet will not tell you before I prophesy to you bring a hundred thousand so now that's now pushing putting a price tag over the prophetic so there is no like uh God has spoken give me a car God has spoken God is instructing go donate this ah bring into the house of God two Gods two cows I am because I'm the child here yes I'm the one who needs to understand this a true word was spoken to us I need to honor it it should didn't be coming from you telling me God has instructed me to but before I do that I need your Noah I need your cup I need you you see I said when you open that field of gift many people are now subjected to you yes yes I've called you by name I've called the idea I've called your grandmother at that time whatever I tell you it becomes easy that's why we call it at the height of the atmosphere sometimes men don't think right at the height of that very intensive spiritual atmosphere now there are two things when you when people are mature spiritually and they are sensitive spiritually there are people who know in this atmosphere you don't live like that this is the atmosphere where you release an offering and and that that is for those who are mature they know their meetings have gone and I sense or whatever has opened up let me empty my wallet and not because someone told me empty I just sense in my spirit this is an atmosphere to worship God with my substance but now there are places where you hear there are seven angels with baskets and every Angel wants three hundred thousand they say in fact they want 330 is it three thousand dollars so you look and say those must be American Angels you know you know those are Kenyan you know so that's the level of manipulation and at that time at that room is very easy to manipulate let me go to deep Church politics some of these seers are also used we call it the prostitution of the gift what is prostitution of the gift I have a church and I know when a certain man comes he will attract a crowd and he will attract money so I have a project very personal so I invite Prophet so and so for one week of ministry and then we have a conversation and I tell you Mr I'll pay your flight and pay your accommodation but you have to raise your offering so you get in that meeting it's well scripted so I'll get the first offering as the as the pastor say guys it's time to give and then then I'll give the mic to the preacher so the preacher is gifted he will do it he will Professor he will do all those things the next thing there will be a climax and they will begin to give envelopes and say now listen you need to connect I hear God saying and at that level there's a deal in the office whatever man you raise 40 60 remains in the office now at that level you're prostituting with a gift and sometimes you're in need of that money so there are people and this one I've heard from a person because he's gifted and we we asked him straight on one of my sons asked him straight on why do you do these things he said you know some of your Prophet some of your Bishops in Kenya they tell me to do it because they need money for possibly the child of their own functions and we ask them so why do you do it they could not hand side and the man prays because he must sustain a certain frequency in the spirit so that he's able to hear what is happening in that area the man is always fasting those are the things I'm calling spiritual disciplines so when you are calm one you have no discernment you will qualify these activities as SP as as now relationship God tells us to look for the fruit not the the the the the the gift God the only way to know that someone is is when now you are able to design motive you're able to look at the food some of these small things arrogance Pride even the way a person speaks I don't care you know God Has Lifted Me I don't need your money those are the fruits you begin to look at and you know Jesus will not have spoken like this Jesus cared for people Jesus will not have looked at people and begin to tell you no I wear a Gucci I drive this if I was in America they will be running to give you here those things and they're like no no run away now here the fruit the gift is okay but the fruit is off and some of those people because of familiar Spirit they they even have the power to identify people they know this one is a millionaire this one is so and so I mean a man identified a few people and he called them by name even call them and Professor I didn't put the mic outside and ask them you come to this church and they said no then he told them immediately after the service looked for me so yeah they identified two of my boys were there so they were called and they said now uh I see greatness the Lord is saying over a thousand dollars and the other one five hundred dollars and then he said I'll put you in our subgroup of Partners and mentorship so they were put in that group and now there was someone managing the group and the group was oh it's time to honor the prophet it's time for the birthday of the Prophet or the prophet is celebrating 10 years every month there is an activity that entails money and then in prayer there is nothing like positive prophecy I see things I see dead the Lord is saying and and every man they are fastings there are many spiritual activities scriptures are shared so you are deceived you look at it and you're like so I told those guys me midnight token Indio because when you begin to connect with that altar it might reach a place that that altar will be too strong and it might manipulate your destiny so that by the time you're trying to get out you are so tight it will take an authority because now my answer will confidence there are people who listen and they will tell you from the day I withdrew things went South because now you strengthen that altar so much that now it had some form of authority even the man you give the man so much Authority by calling him dad and all that that now in the realm of the spirit he has the ability to do a few things and manipulate your destiny so it's it's that so we have backslid and Prophets they don't fall from their rank they still know if I backslide today I will not forget scriptures true story it's not that scriptures that evaporate I will still go and teach powerfully I still my level of prayer will not disappear but now my heart is compromised my motive is compromised I don't see members and souls I see them as people that can benefit me so when you when and you don't have discernment you will judge me with activities that I'm doing and not know that I left the Lord long time ago I'll still keep my sweet son yes I'll put my suits and my voice will not change so now when you're dealing with that box leading Prophet it's it's it's a very high level of deception because you have former genuine works you can quote and say this man did this man did but now somewhere along your place and the gift was hijacked and that is where now box leading prophets will prostitute the gift and sometimes contaminate the gift contaminate means you begin to hear some teachings and you're like this is not the guy we knew suddenly he's endorsing things he did not endorse before suddenly he's celebrating things he did not celebrate before suddenly he has adopted a type and a pattern of ministry there is a language we are hearing that we were not here so at that level you in a sense the gift has been prostituted commercialized or even contaminated so so so so that's and then now we have a hundred percent false prophets diviners who have a gift and you go to their Church it is a mixture of Bible and other things you don't understand and and they they they do rituals you will buy things you enter churches like rituals things that are not in the Bible you shout towards some of those diviners are so much connected demonically some even use witchcraft on the Altar and and some of them it's a hundred percent business that whatever they run is not churches they run shrines they've mastered them yeah yeah they know relationship for them is you come for service you pay uh the man of God is in the office on Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday for one-on-one forensic prophecy about these five thousand yes yes yes and then there are all these things there is oil there is water there is that part that part where the man of God is in church Tuesdays Thursday and uh Mondays 8 A.M to 4 P.M when you go you are given an envelope they are selling anointing oil they are giving you what is that let me give you where the problem is it's in our background it's in our background as Africans because we grew in societies where we had priests Community priests we call them doctors even in some communities who still have them that that work in age they are still there they are running their shrines and you get a child you go to the doctor I'm talking you have a problem you go to the doctor and the doctor is the only one who knows the source of power and is the only one who can approach but you cannot so you get so you have a priest who has Solutions but you don't even need to know his God you just need to respect whatever he says so you go and sit down and he tells you okay what's your problem so this is what one on assemba so this is the way forward and you bring a black goat and this sacrifice put it here and then after that you go with this and this one point water wash you this seven times so you see the point here is the man does not even teach you relationship with these Gods you don't have one you don't have then there is an altar then there is sacrifice and then they help you and then there is no relationship between you and the man because you came to be sorted so it's like a cleaning after you assorted if things go okay then you can come back if things don't work or you can also stick if things work you want another thing favor done to you now there are people who've converted Church to operate like that where there is one powerful man of God and the people like it so they have one powerful man of God and they don't have a relationship with the god of the man and they don't care they will drink they will do all those things they will steal government money but they want to come and hear what is God saying and then the man of God will look at what they're going through and ask them so ahead so this and this and then we'll say you know let me pray for three days I'll give you an answer and then after three days we'll call you and say you know when I was in prayer the Holy Spirit told me you need to raise a seed that these battles God will fight for you but the person God is fighting for they are not even born again they have no relationship with God but they want the things of God so at that level they're just being business that person will be willing to buy anything so that person will give you anointing oil and tell you go and apply this oil four times and some will get results because now you're operating with the power of the shrine so you'll get results so the the power is not in the oil the power is not in the salt it's in what you believe yes and at that level you have substituted the power of the cross with things that money can buy so that means we don't need to believe in Jesus we just need to go and buy anointing oil we just need to go and buy salt we just need to go and buy water and there is a level also people will do ministry in that pattern some are genuine with God but the people who mentored them in Ministry taught them those things now if I got born again I'll be praying to God genuinely Finance video it will take the intervention of the Holy Spirit and the humility of heart to hear what God is saying for you to fully align and sometimes there are people begin with those things later they discover by the way it's not this thing that him it is the Lord who heals because there's a level so God operates with us with our foolishness and then after that now he begins to mature us and we discover ah no it's not this thing the power is in the name and all that so now we have 100 witches diviners and those ones are 100 manipulating people uh those now you find their altars are strange you live and sacrifice your own children you will surrender everything they don't care about you it's business and some 100 common yes there are those who are Convent you know for them it's business make as much money as possible but putting them aside let's look at the people being called thank you Jeremiah says that I dread that scripture yes this was Jeremiah 5 31 I want to read it in the Amplified version yes it says the prophet prophesy falsely and the priests rule on their own authority and my people love to have it so but what will you do when the end comes so the Bible says these people professing falsely but my people you look at where traffic is it's not where the truth is look at where traffic is and I understand people are going through tough times and Desperation can make you go to I don't care you remember luliano yeah there are believers went to Orlando because they were desperate you have cancer you have diabetes you are looking for help you have a sick mother you have a drunkard brother there is a level of desperation that kills logic you you want help at any expense and that's why majority of these places people operate with referrals so sometimes you enter in areas because of desperation you don't know what to do but there are also people who don't want anything to do with God they just want the blessing and that's the other problem because we're in a very Prosperity kind of gospel environment where it's blessing blessing blessing so there is blessing pressure so people want blessing at any cost and then it also works for the clergy it's business you can imagine you go on a Sunday and you come out of a service two hours with half a million what would and the people you're lying to excited being lied to you just need to do a few things look for expensive suits look for protocol bouncers create an image and get some good sound system and you know uh prophesy to three people a million years betting you just need one testimony you know betting they just give one testimony we mean it is how many people scratch after that testimony so you plant three testimonies you know when the man of God when the prophet the man of God of this house when he prayed for me and I released My Sacrifice the sacrifice covenanting with his birthday on that day boom this happened so when you hear that and it's a it's a principle we share testimonies to excite to to encourage and to live the faith of others but there are people who now use it as a marketing strategy one testimony is enough and what I'll tell you yeah yes Kenyans are desperate they Globe literally things are happening and people are desperate but there is no shortcut lean if we go to the gym and I lift the weight on your behalf you'll never get muscles for me the way for these people must know God for themselves the temple cutting was torn into two there is one thing that we need in Revelation to the Bible says you tested those who claim to be Apostles and found them to be not so that means there was a mature church that knew who Apostles are so the the ones who came they looked like them but that maturity made them no these are not the ones so it is time for people to mature individually because false prophets will intensify false Apostles will intensify in fact prophets are called ships Matthew 7 15 calls them there they are wolves in sheep clothing what does that mean they package themselves in a way that sheep feels comfortable but in the process they begin to devote the ship so by the time you discover you in this covering for 10 years but you have been devoured you're so wounded you're so broken and there are people who don't even go to church because these things happen to them and what happens is that now their genuine assignment in God dies I will tell you there are genuine people that God lifted to be Financial Kingdom givers that their wealth was meant to support genuine Ministries but they landed in the wrong fast so today they don't help anyone and that's why you find all this bitterness giving people work out because they're like another man again but is it part of the Bible you have to teach it but again now with a balance so another majority of the people who have a calling of giving to Ministries most of them land in the wrong hands and that Ministry is attacked and the assignment in Zion is compromised so you find them even now saying ah you know eight percent because it looks like all chances are fake so the first thing is to raise our discernment yes so that you sit down with Pastor 10 you're like okay this guy is nice suit nice English but same spiritually false prophet but same thing same thing when you look at the pattern you can sense so when our discernment design we are able to to repair and we are able to do that the other thing is if you are tied to a man maybe by your sacrifices and ALT over diviner and altar of all this witchcraft you never knew you're just innocent you you're looking for a child this is the place you went then later you realize no this my spirit is not okay one of the things is that you just number one genuinely need to repent and genuinely need to disconnect and finally as you disconnect when God helps you to get an authority a genuine spiritual father and cover you just need to tell them what happened so that they can give you support in prayer because now it's disconnection I know a woman will buried because she wanted out of an ALT over diviner and so the woman Rose an attacked her to a point that she died her business died because everything she had was because of this altar so when that woman retreated with everything that was out of that demonic covering began to collapse so it's not acting you can just walk out you can't like if I realize hey this man and then I just walk out I need to get someone to speak now over this Authority you can't get one you need to work out like uh like a like a like a crocodile sniper and begin to cut conversations and engagements and then look for a genuine cover and there are many German men of God look for a genuine cover go and say where you are and let them help you pray so that you you are disentangled some of them will still declare and say you like because majority of these people when you have money you become now a very out of a high level uh client so they they can't lose you some of us we've been we've been abused uh simply because someone came submitted under you and you said it's okay so so you realize okay but you know for the sake of these young ones you're able to Bear the battles so they have to instill fear to those who are remaining so that now everyone now has a mindset and they look at you and they're like a prophet because some have gone through tough times and they came back and now they use those testimonies to tell them here God brought you here you must stay here and if you leave then you are gone that's running Christ yeah and and the other thing I tell people when you go to a church be take career before you even sign a membership before you even begin to say I'm a daughter take care lean you come to my house one day I'm an angel that one day in my future white okay afterwards yeah so so stay in that church you know observe there is General weakness of men out of creation and perspectives of life but now there is there is there is wickedness you look there is no perfect Church you might find a few funny washirikas no problem but to interrogate the anointing of the house are they teaching the word is it consistent um are they truly submitted to the Council of God uh who who is the father of this man what is their origin where did they begin from how did this chat what are they you know all those things ask the hard questions and stay from afar dad I want to say I really honor you the mantle over your life then after six months when I discover boss they could buy you want out and you you are everywhere because that's the mistake again people do they go on one Sunday healing Deliverance Sunday they see the power of God and the me if you ask me the church that feeds you the word and trains you trains you you to pray for yourself you to engage for yourself you too you you to know God for yourself that church is a very powerful church because I was asking do I need a mediator are we is it that we've gotten into an era where I respect the prophet I am actually um you know I I Adore the prophet not the person the prophet is also supposed to be serving because you you see even the oh Dad mom or my Prophet the man of God it's always about the man of God the prophet the prophetess where is God in this whole conversation so that means they've not trained you to do these things for yourself this is what happens naturally I'll explain it in a few minutes um Isaiah says who who shall I send Isaiah 6. from verse one to eight and then he says and who will go for us those are two questions the first question God is asking who will I send but the matter there is who will go for us you can be sent but you went for your stomach at that level you will build and Ministry around yourself and we've seen that a lot in Africa where a man dies and the ministry dies but it is possible God will give gifts to men but the main thing that men need to do is to point men to the give of gifts that is the most powerful thing and it is possible to be caught up as a man because when the noise of Celebration is so loud sometimes you might be caught up and listen God will see God through a man God will give men a man God will anoint a man to go and minister to men but that man when he has genuine alignment with God He will always Point those men to God so that they so that I don't think I brought the tea I'm just a vessel I was empty in January now in February God has given me this and this is for you and so that's where now the maturity comes because we must honor men of God and we must honor the god of the men and men of God should not take the place of God but now what is happening the challenge in Kenya today is cultural and honor is territorial what do I mean how kikuyu's honor is different from how massage honor in fact for those who might even think they are worshiping power you see how they love their leaders for us we honor men but you realize we criticize even those we honor we are a little bit liberal when you go to massage this is how they honor now what is happening today we have imported Nigerian and South African culture of honor and we've brought it in church so we have Kenyans honoring men of God like Nigerians now you go to Nigeria a man can even kneel down and say Yes Papa and to them that is honor and even if he's not a man of God when a governor comes they will also kneel down and say yes my Governor but in Kenya too precious so for us but this is how we own a mess you you will see a Kenyan and you know they honor this man they give him the respect so what is happening is introducing cultures uh like when I was in when I was in Nigeria I felt uncomfortable because someone would come and kneel down and say bless me sir and until I was told this is the culture I saw them do that and and I was uncomfortable because you why would you need like you know I'm a man but then I discovered here kneeling is a part of you know it's a part of Honor because we have the king system yes now if I see a Kenya nearly then I'll know the way who's your teacher this is not part of our curriculum but you you can honor me from your heart and I'll know that you honor me so what is happening is now that importation of Honor it's not that we I have my spiritual father and I call him that and he has never forced me to call him and I honor him not because he forced me because he has also earned that honor so ideally it hasn't there's a popular teaching going around is the teaching of sonship and fatherhood and the teaching of honor and we are manufacturing more servants and lessons and we are manufacturing superheroes and less fathers because when we teach father and son it's relationship so if I can't reach my father because he has broadcast then he's not a father we are dealing with servants so that teaching uh to us to favor teaching your Father's son hey so okay you serve your father with seeds up or emphasize because now you're trying to calculate a culture that is not in I won't lie to you go to mainstream churches go to Catholic go to ack go to PCA those people will even buy their pasta car without being forced they will build a bishop house and a very good house without being forced because they have seen this man this man has failed us this man has taken care of us this man has been with us and so they they feel they can actively participate in building their own church yes scratch they feel we we open honor because this man but many times it does not come from the man he does not come and say more pastor foreign so we begin to see on this other side now there is a level of extreme I believe in honor I'm a student of Honor I believe in sonship I'm a son but I believe you cannot import culture we can only teach honor from the context of scripture and let it affect our culture but again honor has an element of culture in it so we can't bring South Africa Nigeria you go to America I was so surprised I was in I was in Europe um so I'm getting into church with the person and we sit in the congregation yeah oh you're the pastor wow amazing yes and then there is nothing like senior Prophet Apostle it's brother teeth you know uh look at you know for them titles don't matter yeah but you see in Africa hey doctor Bishop honorable before yes but we can't blame because in our in our culture we we respect those titles but now we cannot amplify them so you know we've taught honor some some of it has been extrapolated and imported and so some people are really struggling and there's so much emphasis the moment you pour your life to members they will know and those members will pour their lives to you you don't need to manipulate them the moment you have a vision and that Vision there is a mantle over that revision that means people are seeing this where you're going yes and people are saying generally there is an anointing of God upon this man those people I tell you the truth they will surrender some they are people who even give more willingly than when manipulating good yes I have a question uh when I was hosting mother she kept saying how the prophet test would come and say God has spoken to me God has instructed and she even asked herself why is this God talking to everyone apart from me so my question is how do we talk to God and how does God talk to us because sometimes you hear someone saying God told me this and this so how ex this is even for me personally how do we know do I know when God is talking back to me how do I know this is the voice of God yeah the first thing is that God will speak to us in different levels there is a baby Christian a young and growing but God speaks to all of us God is Not Afraid of anyone yeah God majorly will speak through his word that's why sometimes we have and you're like wow I didn't know that's a revelation that's a confirmation that's an instruction the second thing God can speak through Visions God can speak through dreams and his gift for us to know when God gives you a Dream It's I may not have the power to interpret it because as lead camera means something different for me camera means something different it might mean God is giving me an active Ministry for your camera might mean oh you know what we are expanding our our business so that object might mean different things to different people when the guy behind the camera sees a camera in a vision it might mean hey you need to upgrade the quality you know so if all of us dreamed with cameras we can't say a camera means one thing so that's why now we need to understand that God will speak to a dream and you know that dream God only can interpret it and and God will also use men sometimes to speak but it is always good to understand the policy of Prophecy is that there must be a weakness of two so if I come and tell you something and it registers in your heart and you're like wow this this sounds like true you'll discover in the work of Life you'll meet to other people and you'll be like but they had this thing you are the second guy telling me that's now a confirmation that what was spoken was actually God said because the principle is a principle of two uh uh the second thing is that God majorly will speak us through the word God will speak us through vision through dreams and also anytime God speaks through men there will be a witnessing of your heart there is a level where we may not believe what God is saying but sometimes God will inform you update you whether you believe it or not and in the future when it comes to past you remember somebody spoke but the problem sometimes when men speak there are those who speak in the spirit and they're those who speak presumptuously a good example a man of God is invited in a church and there is a guy seated in front very dirty you know the boots are full of cement and all that and he begins to profess and tells the man I see God coming through for you and I see Financial breakthrough and then when they are leaving church he goes into his wallet and gives him a hundred and tell him I don't know what you're going through but God will bless you then the guy walks straight to his um Ranger double cabin and drives in and the past has the main Pastor who is this guy tells him he's an engineer he didn't have time to change so he came straight to church so presumptuously the guy looks at his dressing and assumes he's poor so there are people who prophesy to us presumptuously and we end up thinking God has spoken there are people who are told they are millionaires I tell you today they are still in a bedside because the one who prophesied maybe did that to excite you or maybe it was a presumptuous and even genuine prophets can do presumptuous where they never ask God they just spoke out of what they feel David comes and tells Nathan I want to build the temple now saying do whatever is in your heart let that God sends a prophet and said you can't build my mere house so it looks like Nathan was not like but Nathan presumptuously just spoke something which God did not told him so it's key for us to understand they are also presumptuous prophecies [Laughter] so we need also to detect and the best thing any believer can know is that God is Not Afraid Of Us God God see come as early days no God is Not Afraid of us God will come to you directly and when you know that principle you will perfect your relationship with him with him yes you will perfect your relationship with him so that you are able to hear him yes and sometimes soon as still Small Voice that's how we can communicate so God will come to your neighbor and communicate to you to your level as you grow you begin to know his voice and as you grow you begin to know so there's a level where he will communicate and there's a level he will speak and if you don't have to judge you but according to a level of maturity yeah if you don't obey death comments that that that God cannot deal within that level if you don't give this and this will happen so you give out of fear no faith and relationship yes wow powerful allow me to ask on the comment section religion and spirituality some are saying Hey thank God I don't belong to any religion me I'm a spiritual person I'm not a religious person what's the difference between being religious and being spiritual spirituality is a product of disciplines I say that's where witchcraft Satanism information all those things fall under spirituality the Bible teaches a lot of spirituality but the guidelines of the Bible teaches spirituality and it also opens up on Good and Evil other spiritualities they don't have good and evil they don't have evil so they will magnify a witch as a good person they will magnify rituals and sacrifices as good things but the Bible will draw a distinction that this is spirituality but this is demonic this is spirituality but this is of God so now that's where the Bible comes in so when you're born again and you are a believer of the Bible you'll be able to distinguish between light and darkness uh and so there are many people say I'm just a spiritual being they've just opened a door for many many spiritual activities and those people can end up anywhere because all you need to do is to understand what do I need to do for this and this to happen and it's a very risky Affair and what we need to know the world is not becoming more secular the world is becoming more spiritual so spirituality is being taught in all quarters and people are able to invoke a few things unknowingly and they get results the Bible clears tells you demons and angels black and white yes so the Bible is religion no the Bible when we put religion I'll call it the Bible is a manual that will guide you on relationship with God and guide you on how to deal with the realm of the spirit with balance yeah yes okay that's what it will do yeah the core business of the Bible is to introduce you to God who is a spirit being the fellowship with God and interaction with God you'll begin not to understand the dimensions of God which is now spiritual yes someone is watching you and they are like Percy I really want to go to church I want to be a member of a church I know you told us even take a year observe things but for people who are looking for key points on where to belong which church to belong Awakening but I think that's why sometimes when you talk I have to I think rank him but I I also maybe to ask if I want to belong to a church then to be on the lookout where should I feel safe very simple go to a church that believes in the Bible both the Old and the New Testament we are not measuring on one they are teaching the whole counsel of God go to a church that believes in the holy spirit because the churches that don't believe in some things of the spirit that believes in the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues is just a gift they believe in the holy spirit that the Holy Spirit guides them the holy spirit will do all these things and all that and go to a church that exalts Jesus above personalities above Miracles and above prophecies go to a church that exalts Jesus above Mind Of God above prophecies above all those things if you go to a church and from Monday to Friday's Deliverance please you will never grow if you go to a church Monday to Friday's healing service you will never grow if you go to a church and from Monday to Friday's prophetic service you will never grow those dimensions are there Miracles are real prophecies are real deliverances are real but the pattern of Christ is that he taught them fast then now he delivered them that's exactly what happened go to a church that puts emphasis on scripture and the authority of Christ not any other authority if they preach water more than Christ then run away if they preach salt more than Christ that's another gospel if they preach Prosperity Prosperity more than Christ it's good to prosper you know it's good to have decency of life in this real but remember eternal life takes some Dimensions if you sense there is manipulation please run away so please yeah and what I'll say there is no perfect charge please don't look for one because you'll when you enter you make it imperfect because you're also not perfect but there are standards that are non-negotiable yes okay there are standards that are not negotiable I have a burning questions should we buy anointing oil um oh Jesus I'll tell you the truth these things some of them are used as symbolism but they are not the ones that work I'll give you a good example if I come and pour anointing oil here it's not the oil that will work it is your faith so when when we are tied to these things oil salt and all things when we are tied to these things we need to interrogate our faith I know there are those levels of point of contact and all that but when we have faith in Jesus ideally we don't need those things but remember my people love it so yes so personally looking at the whole Bible nowhere the apostles sold oil nowhere the apostles sold the handkerchief know where the apostles sold water Norway Jesus did God even when they prayed for handkerchiefs they were taken for free but I also know the apostles received an offering that was given genuinely and nowhere was any manipulation Lynn I'll tell you the truth and I say this because by the grace of God I've seen it in church when you teach men the word balanced balance implements let the word touch every area of their life teach them about marriage teach them about finances teach them about prayer teach them about you know how to walk in the spirit teach them about how to interact with this Physical Realm when you when men are well taught giving will never be a problem the church I Pastor people give more during the week more than Sunday that's the mystery whatever we collect on Sunday when I get that report whatever is received on Sunday is not as much as people died during the week people give their givings during the week so that means there is an understanding I don't need to stand 30 minutes they already know so you live by beating men when men mature giving will never be a problem because they understand because they understand they understand why they are giving them faithful watch and that tells you they don't give so that Pastor can see because they give to m-pesa so I don't even know who gave us oh this is the amount so you pray for them you bless them and it helps you not to deal with members from how much they are giving the attention and you listen to them and you pray for them a millionaire will come and you listen to him and pray for him and you have no interest in any of them you just want them to grow and love them Lord and be lifted so when when we have the heart of Christ Christ looked at the people and said yes that is the heart you care for the Sheep yes wow powerful so it's a balancing act you have to balance because [Laughter] our wisdom here every area of life you know it is the whole Council when you teach that whole Council you raise very balanced people by eight heart attack by eight Taco job they're people who are focused they become samples when they have the full Council you know there are even people in the comment who spend the whole day in church they are not saying you know I'm trying to be really balanced because I don't want to be told lean you are fighting religion or something but you find people have spent the whole day in church cleaning the church if like the whole day from Monday to Saturday they're in church and you are wondering how will these people pay rent what will they eat what's the problem what's the issue there or is it okay okay yes yes that's what I do benefits of financial crisis I work with my hands you stay so much in the upper room you blow up you stay so much in classroom you dry up there must be a balance um yes so so we must learn the art of people sending themselves if you don't work don't eat the principle of scriptures are very are very serious but you see this is an excitement spiritually When you pray you feel good but you don't pay rent with feelings you pay with money so you can't prophesy over padlock I speak to you my testimony stranger please foreign [Laughter] so we have to bring that balance because again when people are so much in spirituality they lose the reality that they are here physically and there are things we do here yes when people are getting hear so much about demons they see the devil in everything yes yes I love I love this I love that we actually have in these conversations because if actually a lot of people are asking questions along this topic then it's an issue then Africa we have a religion issue we have a religion issue and it's very important that we still have people like you Africans Are Spiritual that you can't run away that's why they get attracted to the spiritual thing and they have seen spiritually to work and they know it's there and now there's a desperation for solution but now what happens those who rise they don't teach people how to deal with them yes they rise solve the issue and build an economy around them so that now there is dependency on the man but you don't even know how to pray oh yes wow powerful thank you passy but as always is there anything that you fail we needed to touch on that we haven't and I know they know where to find you by now but also for a first time watching this episode where can they find it some of these conversations are very detailed and very deep I've tried to handle what I felt was necessary uh I'll just end by saying we are in very technical times Falls will rise deception will be very high it will take a person to have discernment to know this is alive when there are thousand notes came in Kenya the new ones many people refused them because they had not handled the new notes they didn't know what it is and they were afraid of deception they say in the bank men are trained to handle original notes so that when the faith comes they know this is fake so I'll encourage you to train yourself in handling the original so that we'll be able to know the fake don't go looking for the don't go handling the fake you might not know the original and this is the age of deception they look alike until you have the technique or you know a thousand note you touch the Blazer this is because they have handled the original for long they know how it looks like when you deal with the truth for long anyone that comes with another gospel another Holy Spirit and another Jesus you will know them and that's the place to flee we are in the age not of lies or tricks we're in the age of deception someone will open the Bible they will say praise the Lord they will worship the whole setups looks charged but until you know the original you'll end and think this is it but until you know the original and I thank God for such conversations yes and may God heal anyone that has been manipulated yes and may they not stop their relationship with Christ because they met the wrong man you are you you got born again to be with Christ not to be with a pastor yes so if you stop going to church because you met a wrong Pastor or a wrong priest then in in the first place you are not going to meet God you are going to meet men so never kill your relationship with God simply because you found a wrong Ambassador if the ambassador of Kenya misrepresents us today in America it does not mean that if you loved Kenya genuinely you will not come to Kenya you'll avoid the man and still no Kenya is a good place so let us not stop mainly have said me understand that I give that's a wrong attitude you went to Christ not to a man so so get out of the man and continue and walk with Christ so Pastor Tim wangi Life Church International that's where we gather and every Thursday we also Gather in the city uh Kenya Cinema every Thursday from 5 30 to 8 and our foundation is very basic Bible Bible Bible every day on my Facebook page eight to nine we do a Bible study study chapter by chapter verse by verse so that's my only way and contribution to the body is it easy no but to grow and outgrow you must remember you must never thank you so much me personally I want to you've been such an amazing friend of the show I think you're the one who have seen as but you know it's it's important to work with people and to have people like you working with our platform and appearance you call them and we appreciate you yes and thank you for taking your time it's amazing to know you are the last guest I'm hosting this year so maybe blessings next year my people and thank you so much for tuning in I hope all your questions have been answered and I hope that by the time we come back next year we will be more cautious more aware and we will know where we are heading but most importantly as Percy has said and I keep repeating here please open your Bible and read read also that word for yourselves it has been translated into so many different languages that it you can easily understand for God so loved the word we continuously need someone to interpret interpret and go to a church that helps you know God a church that directs you towards Jesus Christ and they are saying something important even if you are manipulated come back to the church the fact that you met one bad person let it not ruin your experience of knowing the Creator for yourself thank you so much for watching I cannot tell you how grateful I am if you are looking at my dress you know the dress is from Elegance fashion so if you want to support them guys their contacts are here and they were also there at the beginning of this episode get yourself something if you can and thank you for your continued support 600k subscribers here we come may we continue impacting our society one story at a time our email is also right there on the screen and Pastor T's contact details are also on the screen and please go to his YouTube channel personally there is um someone I want you to watch it's called don't call me Naomi right don't call me don't call me Ma call me Naomi guys go watch that one blessed my heart and so many others that you can also find on his platform and I'm wishing you all the very best continue believing continue hoping let no one take hope away from you but above all remember we must all put in the work Hakuna chaburi my name is Lynn gogetil next time bye bye oh [Music]

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Published: Fri Dec 16 2022