How to Spool a Spinning Reel | TIPS to Help Beginners!

what's happening fish and friends welcome to another episode now it's still cold for me here in I hope that's okay because it gives me time to do some preparation on some of my gear for spring specifically I'm gonna be getting my real spooled up with some fresh line and today I'm gonna be spooling up this this is the Shimano Sedona spinning reel I got y'all seen this in an unboxing video I did I got it on the the gander sale for like 18 bucks so good pass this baby up but in today's video I want to discuss some of the common ways that I have heard of people spooling up a spinning reel and some of the misconceptions with those now I'm also gonna discuss some of the tips and tricks throughout the spooling process that will help alleviate line twists line tangle all that stuff that can be so aggravating for a beginner and finally I'll take you through exactly how I like to set up my spinning reels the line I use on them all that good stuff okay so spooling up a spinning reel seems to be a lot more controversial than a baitcaster you know baitcaster is easy right the line comes off this spool over the top right it's coming off the top of it and to the bait caster as you reel it in its bringing it over the top so it's kind of like a pulley system a timing belt in the car goes off the line spool into your bait caster and you just reel it on now if the spinning reel it's a little bit different because of this the bail arm once you close that bail and start to reel it that bail arm is moving around the spool on your reel it's not coming straight off this line and going right on here this is moving around but let me show you what I'm talking about let's do a quick test here I hear some people say you always want the label up you want the line coming off in a clockwise direction when you're spooling this let's see what this happens do about oh I don't know 15 rotations with it here and let's see what happens with it clockwise alright as you can see here this is the dreaded stuff that we're talking about line twist you see that right there get it in focus debo there you go see that line twist how that's twisting all up on itself you see that that's the line twist that we're trying to avoid now that was with the label up going clockwise let me cut this off let's try flipping it around going counterclockwise alright got that cut off and this time let's try it with the bottom up so it's coming off counterclockwise see how that goes around let's give that a try again we'll try I don't know 15-20 reels here so and you can see same issue we're still getting some line twists it doesn't appear to be as bad this way but we're still getting some so let's try the final way I'll cut this off try doing it the way I do for a bit okay let's try the final way I got that tie back on to my real cut this line so it's fresh here and I've just put this in my made-up spooling station deal this is what I normally do in a little box the line is coming off the top just like I move with the baitcaster let's see how this does and again we'll do about 15 or 20 reels of this just to see how it goes there we go a couple reels more and look looking at the exact same thing right there you see that all this here again the exact same line twisting issue let's take a closer look and I'll tell you what I'm talking about so I hope you can see what I was talking about with this bail arm moving around it's taking the line off here no matter which way you have it bottom up stick her up the way I'm doing it now doesn't matter heck I've even heard of some people flipping it over halfway in between my old man he throws the spool out in the water on the boat when he does it or some people put the spool and a bucket of water when they're spooling it up but every way I've tried you're always gonna get a little bit of line twist and that's because of this this bail arm is moving around it's pulling this line off here and wrapping it around your spool just like so now the only way I could really think to avoid that as if you were taking line directly off this and putting it on this way if you could actually take your spool off and pull it on directly we've seen there's also a company that has a deal where you hook it to your odd and the blind spool sits here and twists and turn as you spool it up onto your reel I think piss if and makes it maybe I don't know if you've tried that let me know if that eliminates it otherwise everything I've tried you're always gonna get a little bit of line twist but let me take you through the process of how I do this and the tips I use to avoid it so the first thing I'm going to do is open up my bail here so if you're new to a spinning reel this is the bail you have to open that up you want to tie your knot this way that way when you close it you're all ready to reel it up so open my bail I'm gonna take my line wrap it around the spool and I'm just gonna tie and improved clinch knot now you can tie an arbor knot there's number of different knots you could tie the improved clinch is work for me though okay you can see there with the improved clinch knot I can pull that down it pulls nice and tight to the spool just like that now I don't tape this I've heard some people even superglue it I don't do any of that tie your knot cut off the tag in which is just this loosen that's not connected to the spool cut that baby off like so and move on to the next step alright so the first thing you want to remember when you're putting line on the spinning reel whenever you're using nylon line especially like a monofilament fluorocarbon the are gonna have memory which means it's that coiling right it's stuck to the memory of that spool wants to coil off so you have to be careful and keep your lying pulled tight that's gonna help so keep that line pulled tight you can use your fishing towel this is a little towel that just connects to my backpack that I take when I Bank fishing you can hold it with that I just holds my bare hands it doesn't matter to me but whatever you're holding with make sure it's not gonna burn this it's not gonna be abrasive and get any Nick's or cuts in it otherwise you get a good chance of breaking off so I'm gonna start doing this now I'm gonna go I don't know I keep my attention so it's tight but I don't want to hold it so tight that it's impeding my spools ability to do its job this spool moves up and down as you put line on it so I'm gonna hold this decently tight I can't tell you exactly how much but not so much and it's gonna burn your fingers off and rip them off and that's so tight that it's gonna stop that spool from moving up and down so I'm gonna start putting the line on just like this keeping a good tension so as I'm going through I'm gonna stop every so often apply some line conditioner so this is a silicon-based line conditioner that as you can see helps reduce that memory it takes that memory out and increases casting distance it's really just putting a thin layer of that silicone coating on there that helps this line from grabbing itself and sticking to it and you know getting those wind knots that pull out similar to a nonstick pan I'm just applying some of that every so often as I go through just apply that in little spritzes as you're going through and I'm gonna keep putting wine on it keeping tension on I'm gonna keep filling her up all right so I've added more line I'm gonna stop for a second apply a little bit more line conditioner just like so and keep going okay so I got that all spooled up this is just some cheap backing line that I use this is what I use before I put braids on which is normally how I do all my spinning reels and I'll talk about that in just a second but just using some of this cheap line to show you because as you're spooling this up you want to make sure and keep a close eye on how much you're putting on here as you can see at the top of the spinning reel here there's a part that curves down you want to make sure you stay with about an eighth of an inch of the edge of that if you go over that and get line all the way up to the edge of this where it's gonna start creeping over it you've got too much line and what's gonna happen is when you cast off a lot of this is gonna kind of ball up and you'll get that weird nap that goes all the way up the first guide and it's all tangled up you've got too much line on there so you can put too much line on this be careful not to do that now on the opposite side you don't want to put too little on so let's say you stopped halfway about half the line that we have here now you're gonna end up with two problems the first problem is that if you don't have enough line on here this line is gonna bang on this lip as it comes off its gonna beat on this when it's not completely full and you're gonna lose a lot of casting distance and the second issue you're gonna run into is you're going to lose speed so if you have this less full let's say maybe I'm trying to make a little loop a line around my thumb it would only take about that much line to loop around my thumb now as opposed to this whole bail it's gonna take a lot more line to loop around there let's say that much the more line you have on the reel the more line you're taking in for each turn of the reel you're bringing in more line keeping that real fast if you only have a little bit on there you're only gonna bring a little bit of line in for every turn so essentially gonna lose speed on your reel okay now this is a perfect segue I cut that off and look what happens after you spool up your reel and let go of it look at that see how it's just popping off there and hopping off all over that's that line memory it's trained to the size of this spool not this spool so the first thing I like to do after I get my line cut and get this all on here you can see all this stuff's falling off here jumping off just to give you a better look see that see all those loops that happen I take a look on you know the first few yards of it and pull it as I pull that now see what happens nice and straight I pulled those loops out nylon fluorocarbon it stretches so when you have a bunch of those little loops in there you can take it and pull it out pull it tight like that and you're gonna get rid of all that line memory it's a good straight line so that's the first thing I do take a couple yards out pull it tight to reduce that memory once you get all this line wound down there's a little piece on sping reels where you can take your line and push it down in that little hole just like so and pull it tight that's actually a line keeper so when you're not using it you don't have a bait tied on it actually holds your line there so you can do that with it and it keeps it nice and stored without a whole bunch of line hanging off so i lock my line on there and I'm gonna take my spool off now this is a trick that I learned from watching Bill dance take my spool off and let's head over to the sink for the sink what for view bow I'm glad you asked we're going to retrain this line so it stays on this spool and keeps the shape of this so the first thing I'm going to do you're drag washers and everything are all up in there I want to protect those I don't want to get them flat not that it would necessarily hurt it but I don't really want to do that so I'm going to take a paper shout towel and shove in there and take a paper towel and shove in the bottom now it's not an issue if you get your dragon stuff wet in there does kind of mix with the grease but just make sure you let this air dry out completely before you put this on the real what I'm gonna do is turn on some hot water also peep of anybody else I just want a regular soap I want to wash my hands with regular soap not winter candy apple goes to my old lady anywho I want to put on some hot water not you know regular warm water like lukewarm temperature I want to put on some hot water like I would normally wash my hands with not scolding burn my fingers off but hot water alright that's some good high-quality hot h2o I'm gonna put that right on here like this I'm gonna do this and try to keep it towards the front end of it and just keep spinning it for I don't know about a minute or so I want to get this hot water on here and it's gonna retrain this line to take the shape oh gosh shape of this fool that was a absolute fail debo again make sure you keep this nice and slightly dry okay you can see there I kept the top dry with that paper towel in there it did fall out but I just made sure to keep it this way so the water didn't get in there same thing for the bottom the bottom kept all dry with the paper towel in there now I let this air dry just to be sure and what happens when you take this off the line keeper now when you let it go look what happens one coil came off that's it one little tiny coil after I put hot water on that and retrained it look that's all it came off there one little coil so instead of when I let it go before and 15 of those coils tried to jump off there I've retrained it to the size of this spool and wants to stay in that shape doesn't want to jump off there that'll save you a ton now let's get this put back together and I'll go back over there and talk about casting this okay so after you have your reel all put together and put on your rod and you're ready to go out fishing the number one thing you want to remember it is you want to avoid slack line slack line is going to give you all kinds of an issues on a spinning reel so the process of avoiding slack line starts as soon as you cast you know if the spinning reel you open up the Bale take it fling your lure out there some people take their hand and close the bill this way they use this and go and flip it over look what that does that moves slack line and it throws us you want to avoid that so when I'm on the field casting you know let's say I'm working a drop shot shaky head net rig I cast the lure out I use my opposite hand in my case the left hand to close the bail and then I take my left hand and pull that line tight the reason I'm doing that is I want to make sure that line is seated in Lion roller so right heel on on your bail where it closes there there's a line roller so as that line gets pulled out you can see there there's a little piece that moves and rolls and helps assist that line to roll out I want to make sure that my line is sitting in there before I start to reel or work my lure or anything okay the next big part comes when you're working a lure so if you have something like a little spinner bait or something that like crank bait you're casting out and just consistently reeling with the spinning reel no big deal as long as you seat your line in that line roller and you start rolling shouldn't have any issues it should be tight all the way back but if you're working something like an ed rig a drop shot of shaky head after I cast that bait out I'm closing my bail and I'm making sure he's seated in that line roll or just like so I'm gonna start working my rod to move let's say I've got an ed rig I pop it two three four times keep your rod tip up that way my line is still tight on that last little pop and then roll down your slack okay what you don't want to do is cast it out have a whole bunch of slack like this you know just kind of hang in here you work it up so there's a whole bunch of slack and then drop your rod tip so there's all this slack hang in here and then reel it up because if you've got all this slack and start reeling up there's a good chance you're going to get this wrapped around here it's gonna get wrapped around the bottom of your spool you can end up with issues that way so just remember if you're using the lure that you work with the rod ned rig you know whatever it may be cast it out close your bail make sure everything's tight pop-pop-pop and on that last pop where everything's tight reel down your slack then okay now if you don't want if you're afraid of you know moving the bait or something with it up like that cast it out work your bait drop it down but before you drop it down just make sure everything's pulled nice and tight some people even hold it with their finger there's a number of different things you can do but just be conscious of that anytime you're working a lure with the rod don't reel up slack line and by that I mean floppy slack line like this of course you have to reel you know what I mean okay so I showed you a setup for monofilament or fluorocarbon the things you want to remember a nylon line is different but let me grab a little my other rigs and talk about the benefits of braid and why I believe in it I'll be right back okay this is one of the setups I used last year this is my shaky head drop shot kind of do it all medium power spinning rod with a 3,000 size reel that's my favorite all-around do anything spinning combo now you can see here I've got some yellow line on there that's some 15 pound or pro braid this is the super slick stuff the thing I like about breed is leave that see how it's just hanging all limp and not caring about anything breed doesn't have any memory you don't have to worry about putting a whole bunch of braids on here and having all those coils jump off and such you don't have the line twist type thing you don't have to worry about memory with braids that's the number one reason I've switched to using braids on all my combos now I've talked about this in another video and somebody brought up a great point and said hey did to check out Brian lattimer's video I think he did it on wired2fish correct me if I'm wrong somebody linked me the video and I watched it and he uses basically braids on all of his combos except for he gave a couple examples where you want all fluorocarbon where you want that line to sink you know now a lot of it's just personal preference some people like going straight mono or straight braid because they hate to tie a leader and I get it that's completely personal preference I wasn't a big fan of it until I don't know maybe four or five years ago when I started messing with it and what I mean by a leader is I never fish straight braid so I don't ever take just my braid excess stuck on I don't ever take just my braid eat I'll lure directly to the braid I tie a leader so as you can see they're a nice little small knot that's the Alberto knot that's the knot I've become comfortable with I can tie it really fast I haven't had any breaking issues so I always use a leader on mine about six seven feet I just want to make sure that when I reel this up my leader knot is just past this but it never goes into the reel so when I have this reeled all the way up and I'm ready to cast it I want my leader not to be before this first line guide but not going into the reel you don't want to have that knot go down into the reel where it can get caught then when you cast you can get caught on the other line you've got all sorts of problems but a tie leader leaders give you the freedom to use that nylon line so whether it's a fluorocarbon or maybe you want a little bit of stretch with monofilament you know you can have a line on there that the fish aren't going to see is easy instead of some glaring yellow bright line I've got fluorocarbon on here I could go six pound I usually don't go below eight pound now something with like a shaky head I'll usually go ten pounds but you can put a clear line on there fluorocarbon is more abrasion resistant than a straight braid so there's a number of different things you can MIT submits mix and match now additionally you've got the benefit of braid sensitivity you cannot argue the brain is the most sensitive line it's got no stretch in it so when you're working something like this a shaky head a drop shot whatever it is you've got such a direct connection whereas if you're using monofilament there's a good amount of stretch in there and you will miss bites if you go straight monofilament it's harder to detect the bite as opposed to going straight braid or grade with a leader so that's why I do it I can cast a lot farther with braid break comes off here much easier I don't have to worry about those knots you know those spool knots coming off there to me it's just so much more manageable and braid doesn't go bad so I don't have to change braid on a reel like this you know when my leader gets down you know from cutting and retying cutting and retying I'm just gonna snip that knot off above right there on the braid cut that off and tie a new leader on and I'm ready to go so all right fish and friends that's gonna do it for today now I want you all to remember I honestly don't think it matters which way you have the spool there's this huge full debate label up label down flip and halfway in between in a bucket of water I don't know all the ways I've tried initially they're gonna give you line twists no matter what you use the important part is what you do while you're spooling up the things like holding the line tight adding a little bit of line conditioner pulling the first couple yards out tight to reduce that initial twist and then taking that spool off and running it under some hot water to train the memory to this spool not the big line spool now my opinion those were the biggest things that helped me now again you could avoid all that put some braids on here you don't have to worry about the line twists and all that other stuff increased casting distance I'm not gonna get into it but comment below and let me know if you have any questions about spooling up a spinning reel if there's more spinning reel type videos you want to see maybe you want to see a lion video mono and fluorocarbon versus braid pitching and flipping with the spinning reel I don't know whatever it is comment below and let me know I appreciate it now today's subscribe fish and friend shout-out goes to Captain Mark Captain mark thank you always for watching commenting we have some good conversations back and forth and of course thank you to everybody else who watches without all of you again my channel would be nothing except some guy in a basement so while you've got some down time get some new light on your reels you'll be happy when spring comes with their fresh and ready to go but that's enough for me it's late gotta edit so until next time thank you for watching you

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Id: 2LTevI3onHI

Length: 17min 53sec (1073 seconds)

Published: Tue Jan 28 2020