How to: Exterior Insulation & Cedar Siding

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yo welcome to containing luxury so on this episode we were going to be covering how to install all your cedar siding but I'm short-handed so we're gonna decide to go get us some insulation panels discuss the different types of insulation panels you can put on your exterior and which ones are going to be good for both interior and exterior so let's go get that stuff and we'll get back here and show you how to install [Music] one of these that'll be great for the audio there's my home depot mother so as you can see there's a lot of different types of insulation this is over at our local Home Depot store certain installations are gonna be good for the inside certain ones are gonna be good for the outside so if you're insulating on the inside you have to use the closed cell stuff so that's gonna be all these boards they don't have any of the super thick stuff here yeah no no stop en okay okay so the uses of something like this type of board are actually written right on it pretty simple interior exterior walls basements or crawlspace under slab and foundations do-it-yourself and craft project panel there we go and this is what we were talking about where we'd have to put a fastener so say we had our cedar siding on here this is that our sub structure of whether it's in so fast or is the two by twos that we rip down they would be flush up against the back of this and then our panel will be up here and then you'd have to get a fastener that's going to go through that siding through your insulation and into your into your two bites you in the back so this would be a good insulation board to put on the exterior and a lot of different applications but you just got to make sure you got a fastener big enough okay so this is gonna be your batt insulation which is a lot of time it's fiberglass or sometimes now it's like composite but most commonly it's gonna be fiberglass batt insulation really itchy stuff it's what's going to be most commonly found in your attics in exterior walls of wood frame houses so this is a it's a really typical product of insulation but not ever going to be used on the inside of a shipping container if you see somebody using that insulation they do not know what they're doing and it is going to cause a major problem down the road so so just be weary of that and anyone that gives you plans or has a plan that has batt insulation showing on the inside of a shipping container don't go with that okay so these are gonna be some of this is actually a closed cell board this is a really thin one the half-inch so most the time they're actually going to have a little chart like this it's going to help you figure out your R value and your R value and what our value means is actually the resistance to heat flow the higher is our value the greater the insulating power and I know I sound like a genius but it also says it right here the chart actually explains exactly how this process works so this is a half inch piece so the r-value is real low at 3.2 so the higher you get obviously the more insulating value you have so you can go four and a half inches thick but that would be like that thick of a panel we'd get you 31 that would be super energy efficient but it goes beyond when calculating therefore the r-value goes beyond just this insulation board the siding itself the heat load on the container from Sun you know air voids actually Yeti is a super amazing you know thermos and it actually just has an air void so there's no insulation in it so I could be wrong about that but I've seen one cut apart and that was the case with stainless steel air void stainless steel so we designed our container with the method in mind that allowed for different air gaps and it actually gave us some insane insulating power so it goes a lot further than this but if you use this as a basic chart of you know the more more layers you have the better insulating value we thanks I know I was a hand model higher model over the years what we could do is if you get an insulation board just double check a fastener that's just gonna be big enough just to tack it in to the interior substructure so in this case this will be fine it's just literally there just to hold it in place until I can put my siding over the top of it and that's gonna mail all the way through this into those into that substructure so I just need something just attack it temporarily three is like 14 pounds actually it weighs like 1 pound if that well it goes to show you have you did whoa I'm gonna put a couple of these in my pouch and then normally what we do is we pull measurement off the bottom rail let me move this out of the way so we pull measurement off the bottom rail we know that these sheets are 4 foot by 8 foot so yep 4 foot it's pretty windy right now so what I would do is kind of mark this at 4 foot it'd probably help if I had a pencil on me right now but I'd put a pencil mark right at 4 foot there do another one over there and then a chalk line but a chalk line there like $7 over at Home Depot it's gonna make your life really easy you just hook onto your pencil mark here come across hang it line it up there and snap it you can do a really long section all at one time that's gonna allow you to make sure that you're working off of a straight line when installing all these luckily these are pretty lightweight but just get a nail tacked into the so again I'm just gonna attack one more nail that's just gonna hold it in place and a lot of these I even have my demo hammer I'm even have my regular one so again these are just kind of here to hold this insulation in place when we grab our siding we're again gonna want a snap line so essentially we now have this nailed off you just got to put a couple in to kind of hold it in place sometimes you can just go in a straight line down you can just tack in a couple [Music] okay so essentially once we have that good now we pull measurement for our cedar siding which in this case is I think these are seven and a half seven or seven inch planks they're supposed to be seven quarters yeah seven and a quarter that one's just a little short so what we do is we'd want to overhang this insulation a little bit you know we'd snap a line again maybe seven inches up across this whole board snap a chalk line and then with our cedar siding we'd be working from the ground up coming up the and then we're shooting through this insulation if we can see up here we're gonna shoot through this insulation into this board up here so I got to make sure I'm using a fastener in this case I was using these to attach through this which you can see how much is only going into that stud so I wouldn't want to use this this nail to go into through my board because they're you know barely any of it would be catching so I want to probably add at least 3/4 of an inch to this these are inch and a half so two and a quarter or even a two and a half inch nail would be ideal for shooting in that cedar siding through this insulation so if you have a thicker insulation board you got to make sure you're calculating all that stuff and make sure at least three-quarters of an inch to an inch penetrates into your substructure okay so we're gonna mark this out at seven inches because our siding is seven and a quarter and I want a little bit of a lip guess I'll actually come all the way down here so I'm just holding this right at seven there's putting a little mark and then when your one hand or one guy you can actually just use chalk line here hook it on that mark pull it all the way down hold it on your mark there pull it tight and just boom so I actually only had blue chalk with me but they have red or orange red is probably gonna be your best for this but and now at least we have a line that we can work off of if I were to take one of these cedar planks here I would then be able to put this like so and use that line right there just attack this in now what I might want to do in advance in this case we're doing the insulation as we're doing the siding so I can actually see my lines so if you're a pretty good carpenter you may not need to even snap some vertical lines on where your studs are or your your backing is if you want to do this it takes a little bit more time but you'll be dead on if you know if you don't have a good eye and a lot of experience you just clip on you don't even need to put about pencil mark but just clip on and and kind of come straight down from that snap a line and then go down all of them just as straight as you can and a lot of time if you hung this panel level or straight when you first put it up like ours is perfectly flush off the bottom then the printing I can use as a guideline to make sure I'm straight so you can kind of see my pencil or my chalk line is the same distance off all these little plus marks on there so I know right where it is you can also use those as a guide if you were knowing where your plant your your stud is if I know okay I'm just shooting just off the side of these so that's what these are here for to kind of give you a reference point so I can use those when going straight down so now that I got that reference point I can kind of go ahead and install this this first layer of lap siding and with lap siding virtually any any type of siding you're putting in you're always going to work off the bottom and work your way up so all those seams are overlapping the water kicks over them and never gets behind them so I've got this dual framing nailer that I can shoot a couple of different size nails with this is expensive tool so if you don't have this if you're doing some other some other work you might have just regular Finnish nailers so this is slowly gonna be used just to hold it in place you can go back and hand nail it if that's your preference you could put screws but it'll take you a really long time but say I'm by myself right now and I'm trying to put this siding in I can actually kind of get to a point where I'm flushing it up to the end there I know where my starting point is we come down a little bit right to my chalk line there and and there so now I have those reference points so I could just shoot a little finish nail hope that just shot right through we're not going to use that one I would have to turn down the power on that but okay so now that's gonna be able to hold it in place so that first nail is shot with the finish nailer trying to show you how you can tack these things it just shot straight through the wood so a lot of these guns are gonna have adjustments on them which kind of show you a little chart of sinking the nail further or setting the nail further out so what I'm gonna do is make it so it's gonna hold that nail a little bit further out and just do a test nail I shot it in with my framing nailer but I'm just gonna shoot a little test nail make sure that yep so now that's good enough that I could use this if I just had a finish nailer just to kind of tack the board in place so that now if I wanted to go back and hand nail all this stuff you know I guess I could find a place here I could go back and hand nail this this is gonna take a lot more time if you don't have a framing nailer you can just use something just to tack it like a finish nailer or something so you can free up your hands if you're doing this by yourself to go in and finish off all the nails but definitely never use a finish nail or just to put on your siding and bad storm it's gonna come right off so so I could take another piece here and I'll try and ninja slide this behind me okay that didn't go as smooth as possible but the pretty big pieces but again I'm not gonna put I guess this isn't again cuz I didn't explain this yet but this next piece would essentially you know go like so but I would be lapping my pieces so I would cut one off to flush with My Starving piece I'm gonna put a trim piece at the end but I would have I would have this this board so I have lapping seams where I'm sorry I don't have seams that are right in line with each other I'd want to have a seam and then another seam over here and the next one seam over here so that that way you don't have a leak point where water is just getting through when getting onto your second row they actually make a tool that you can clamp on to the boards which will help guarantee that you have the same reveal on each plank going up but if you don't have that and it's not a common tool to be able to find I mean in other areas but not around us because most of our finishes stucco finish down here but if you had to you could just take your tape measure and you know again just mark about five inches up from the edge of this and then again you could go you know about five inches from there and if you did marks every five inches then you'd have a line that you could snap again all the way across here every five inches is then gonna give you because these boards are seven and a quarter you're gonna have two and a half inches of guaranteed lap that's gonna you know protect it from water that's virtually your siding just make sure that you're calculating out you've got to get into that that but that backing stud at least three-quarters to an inch anything less than that it's going to be it's not going to be holding the piece of siding well enough so taking into consideration the thickness of the part of the board that you're shooting through your insulation and how deep you need to penetrate into that backing stud alright guys so that's about it for our insulation on the exterior with siding again I didn't have the hand I was hoping to have today so we kind of made do with kind of showing you the basis basics of installing siding over insulation and a lot of the different types of insulation that you can and cannot use on your exterior and your interior so I hope it was helpful virtually you know if you have a different type of siding Hart Hardy Wow Hardy board yeah that's it Hardy board or you know cedar siding or even if you were putting plywood over that and wanted to put laughs and stucco it's virtually the exact same concept of what we just showed you you're just taking into consideration the thickness of the board the thickness of whatever insulation you used and how deep you want to penetrate into that that backing so that's about the basics that you should be able to apply that to anything you're doing so we hope you guys enjoyed this this video and again if you want to try and support us we're an educational series so you can hit that patron account other than that subscribe share and hit the bell we'll see you guys on the next one [Music]
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Channel: Containing Luxury
Views: 128,584
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Keywords: tiny house, shipping container, container home, container house, container build, DIY, Construction, How to, cedar siding, insulation, exterior
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Length: 16min 11sec (971 seconds)
Published: Wed Sep 25 2019
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