How FAT should a Ryzen 7600x cooler be? ❄️ - 7600x Cooling

recently we had an in-depth view of the ryzen 7600x an amazing CPU great at games surprisingly good at hard tasks it looks like a water Strider just overall a great step forward compared to the previous generation however something we did not touch upon was the fact that the 30 performance increase also came with atdp increased from 65 to 105 Watts now upon first inspection this doesn't really seem like a big concerned after all there are many 105 watt CPUs out there the 5800x for example but in addition to the heat upgrade the new entry level or mid tier level whatever we're going to call it does not come with a shiny piece of aluminum tuned with some of that fancy plastic ignoring the countless amounts of Mini-Me you can read about this topic the 5800x did not come with a cooler either and that wasn't because AMD tried to be apple but because the rough stealth that came with the 5600x would have never been able to keep that thing cool heck not even the 5 7 hundred decks came with the cooler so there you already have the actual reason why a 7600x does not come with the cooler not because they wanted to do it but because they needed to do it look at it this way AMD had two possibilities they could either create a cooler which would be powerful enough to keep this CPU from thermal throttling even if you install it into a shoe carton which then just translates into drastical price increase new cooler new and bigger packaging more expensive shipping and so on and so forth or they just don't and they leave the old price tag on and let's be honest the Uproar of not including a piece of accessory anymore is smaller than one caused by a price increase just look at Apple they are switching between the two possibilities every year but hey at least the old cooler still fits that's something no matter if you like it or not once you have the chip you gotta keep it cool and that is exactly what we are going to do today answer the question how much cooling do you actually need and no just because your last CPU was rated at 105 TDP does not always mean that your cooler will also be able to keep a 7600x cool and all of that is thanks to the definition of TDP which is merely a suggestion just look at the 12900k 125 watts TDP that's that's a joke okay before we begin a few important things starting with the CPU itself until now for ryzen CPUs the rule of temperature was pretty simple TJ Maxx or the maximum safe temperature was at 95 degrees C and at that point the CPU was thermal throttling so hard Minesweeper started to stutter so the rule was everything underneath 90 was survivable 80 is a lot better and 70 is good of course under load and depending on the exact CPU you could never be able to stay underneath 70 on the low that was just impossible but anyway for many many years we just needed to stay away from that Devil's number 95. for the ryzen 7000 however this is not the case anymore the new TJ Maxx is not done it is actually a safe operational temperature as stated many many times by AMD you can run a 7000 chip at 95 degrees C 24 7 and nothing will happen the power management system is designed by intention to do that especially on the higher core countries that being said I wouldn't do it or at least I wouldn't I wouldn't advise you to grab a cooler that cannot keep the CPU lower than 95 on the load hey if your cooler can do that while spinning at half speed grade great AMD intentionally did it that way and your fan will not annoy you and if you would really want to you could always get it cooled down a bit more so great but where is that line which coolers are good enough for a 7600x and which one are not this is our CPU Cooler performance Benchmark list this is how cool each of these coolers can get my 3900x while the fans are spinning at 100 of their Max Speed while performing coming this Benchmark the 300X is pushing about 130 Watts but wait do not assume that every cooler on this list that can keep a 3900x cool at 130 watts would automatically be enough for the 105 watts of d7600x unfortunately it does not work this way try looking at it this way if you have a cooler a that can cool down up to 200 watts and a cooler B that can cool down up to 150 watts there is absolutely no guarantee that the 100 Watts load cooler B would be better we had plenty of coolers that proved to be a lot more efficient at lower temperatures compared to bigger behemoths and besides that the CPUs are also not the same anymore some may have their hot spots totally centered although may have it on slightly on the right others can distribute the heat very very well over the IHS and others just don't and also keep in mind how the IHS on a 7600x looks like that water Strider looks nothing like what we had until now so no as far as coolers are concerned never assume anything without having having like a comparison value from where you can derive your CPU you can assume wrong however if you take a list like this and you know that on each test we are pushing about 130 watts and let's say that we know that this this and this cooler can keep a CPU X cool but this cannot well then we can start to assume stuff because we've got an actually comparable value if we know that these three can do it it's pretty sure that this one can too maybe it will be a bit better than the one above it though it will be worse than the one below it those possibilities come from the differences created by other levels of heat or being not identical or a million reasons so the goal for today's video is essentially to create books because none of the values on this graph apply to a 7600x so we removed however the relation to one another in a sense of performance difference will remain somewhat the same so for now we are going to pick and choose a bunch of coolers from that list and we will slowly create an estimation which will end up with a very straight line and everything above that line is okay and everything below it is not okay so let's start I already hand-picked a lot of coolers which are sitting like here on the floor right now some Arctic some be quiet like silence knock you out inside and let's not forget that AMD rough cooler that everybody is whining about yeah I I tried it and using cpu-z it hit 110 degrees within a minute and then the PC to shut down so no let's get to the real deal starting off with water coolers I wanted to start off strong so I picked up an Arctic liquid freezer 420 and yes the p14s on there are definitely original this is how Arctic designed it I did not just slap three p14s in in White on it because it was actually a argb version and I wanted it to be not wgb no no this is original yeah the liquid freezer stayed at a snuggling 78 degrees C barely Arctic barely but you made it onto the yes list this is the yes list oh and I do not yet have the 420 liquid freezer videos so it's not on the list yet but let's pretend like it is it's not like we all know where exactly it will be positioned in the end from here we wanted to slowly travel down the road luckily we have all available Arctic liquid freezers so we could slowly test each of them one by one and see how they perform foreign this wasn't a good idea yes this this worked so far so good at this point we already at least know that everything in between here and here will be able to keep a 7 600x cool but before we jump we also included an Arctic freezer 30 for Esports duo in our testing just to be sure how air Kudos would work foreign of course we started off with the biggest and baddest nhd15 which I do not have here because it's sitting in my editing rig and cooling down my uncoolable 12900k so uh and I will not rip it out now it's it's no it will stay in there now uh so we will just pretend like it's here wrong side going deeper and deeper everything was going fine until our first problematic candidate although the u9s did not allow the 7600x to get up to that 95 degrees C and although the 7600x is built to work on that level I would still like to see some sort of Headroom under normal circumstances you could let this one spin a tiny bit slower but once summer comes back again and your room gets filled with 30 degrees C air there is nothing the small u9s could do to keep a 7 600x from turning into flames and Ashes so in order to take Headroom into account every cooler that cannot keep the ryzen underneath 90 degrees C Under full load is not enough the no list bad cooler bad cooler the only issue now is that the u9s never made it onto the list of my 3900x so I still have no stop line damn it coming to house be quiet although the dark Rock Pro 4 did do it the pure rock 2 ran into some issues finally I can draw a red line so at this point we have a reason to assume that everything above this line will probably be a no-go this means no Arctic a13x no Montag air 210 no AWS at 120 oh thank God that thing was was so awful foreign s which managed to pull it off too and surprisingly good like ignoring the overkill of slapping a oversized red onto a BTO CPU it was the best performing air cooler which is okay this did the best job until now and the Mugen too so far so good it seems like the dark Rock slim did not have any luck either and this not only significantly restricts our list of potential coolers but at the same time it kind of finishes our list now we can say that everything like a scythe Mugen 5 refc doc Rock Pro 4 and above are definitely okay and everything below a dark Rock slim like ikuga aqua and alpen thin broken three and so on all of those are a definite no for the ones in between like an Arctic A35 Shadow Rock 3 well those are starting to be okay they will be at the upper limit but not thermal throttling it though and this concludes our list now we know what cooler we can go for and which one we should definitely avoid if we don't want to test if a 24 7 TJ Max is really as not 24 7 as AMD claims however nevertheless sometimes it's good to be safe than sorry and sometimes times like for example a silence m705 would be a safe bet it's not nearly as expensive as a nhd15 yet it can get the job done and it's very good at it on an extra side note I also wanted to see if we can do sff bills yeah we cannot or at least start with the L9 x65 which is the best sff cooler I have right now as it will thermal throttle really really quickly so no I but I will keep looking for a solution and at some point I kind of forgot my favorite cooler the Nokia u12a like poor guy was standing at the floor but yeah now you know what you need to do in order to keep a 7 600x cool I hope you enjoyed the video but from the side note we still have a Discord server and it starts to fill up pretty well so if you want to join I will leave the links in the description below anyway thank you for watching and hope to see in the next one bye

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Id: YF5Pl2sFixs

Length: 12min 56sec (776 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 05 2022