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Oh, God. Can't [bleep] and can't piss on the dirty dishes. I'd end up probably with a nice rope down in the basement. ROBIN ZASIO: I just want to take a peek. Can I do that? No. I just want to throw something at her. I'm not trying to hurt you at all. Please. Please know that. I don't like how you're living. ROBIN ZASIO: What thoughts are you thinking? Shame. Yeah. Disgust. Yeah. If she did love me, it's like she would have got rid of her junk and got me back. I know I shouldn't think this stuff's more important than you are. [music playing] Oh, God. ROBIN ZASIO: When they walked in, they were absolutely horrified. I feel like I could walk through the dump right now and it'd be cleaner. And she's our mother. I can't watch you live like this anymore. I can't. [sobbing] JOANNE: I'm Joanne, and I'm a retired school bus driver. When I was growing up, my father and I would collect stones. He'd make candy jars with special lids on them. I think that it rubbed off on me to save things. It was like there was a piece of my life. I'm Rance. I'm Joanne's son. My mother is a hoarder. She collects, and she can't let things go. My name's George. I'm Joanne's son-in-law. My mother-in-law's house is crap from top to bottom. It's a [bleep]. I grew up in this house. After my husband and I were married in 1970, I moved in with him in his apartment. And then in 2002, when my mother died, we moved our things in before even removing all of my parents' things. My name is Robin. I'm the daughter of Joanne. I would honestly have to say that at least 75% of the house belongs to people that have passed away. My name is Nicole, and Joanne is my grandmother. That house is very creepy. My grandfather died in it. A guy that hung himself died in there. JOANNE: My parents bought the house in 1945. My parents had told me later that a person had hung himself in the basement. My grandmother lately has been talking about, like, weird things about why doesn't she just not live anymore. JOANNE: If I don't get the house cleaned up, it'll be about the time when I would look for a noose and hang it down in the basement where the other guy killed himself. NICOLE: I'm worried that we're going to get a call, oh, your grandmother was found dead in the house. JOANNE: When I go through my dead husband's things, I get overcome with, you know, hate. I do remember instances of him coming home, and he was intoxicated. And there was different people, different women with him. A lot of the kids were in bed and I was in bed. My husband brought home one of his couple of girlfriends, and she proceeded to heave all over the bathroom. Then you're to leave me the bathroom to clean up. And so, OK, now I get to go get something more and get to hang onto something so that I could have something for a piece of my life. This was her, I will get you back. This is mine now. You don't touch it, and I hope you're pissed off, because I am. ROBAYN: My mother's hoarding was so bad that for years and years of different therapies, I have learned that I had developed post-traumatic stress disorder. The lifestyle of a hoarder is not just collecting things. It's hiding your life. So you live with lies. You live with deceit. JOANNE: I found I was shopping at the mall and, of course, with a fractured kneecap, I can't walk on my leg. Got you. Don't worry about that. My family has said I can stay there. ROBAYN: When things come into the house that my mother brings, it usually causes an argument. My husband is at a breaking point with everything. GEORGE: All the animosity about her staying and cluster [bleep] other people's houses, it's going to drive me crazy. The best thing for everybody would be for you to be able to go home. We've been to her house six, seven times to clean her house out. And we'll literally take garbage, put it in a bag, put it in the garbage can, and she'll go outside and look through the garbage can. She would pull out things, and she'd be like, hey, I need this. GEORGE: She's probably got six cordless telephones. I'm going to keep this one, because I'm going to fix this one. She is not mechanically inclined. I'm tired of the excuses. I'm going to keep that, because I'm going to give it to somebody. Then give it to them. She could go shopping in her house. I went Christmas shopping at my grandma's storage unit, and I just wrap them up and give them to my friends. GEORGE: Put a tag on it, wrap it up in a freaking comic, and hand it to them. Merry Christmas. Don't buy it. I don't know where I put it, because it fell off the pile of [bleep]. Oh, now I've got to go buy it again. And I brought it home, oh, [bleep] it fell off another pile of [bleep]. And I bought it again. ROBAYN: If this continues, he will be telling her that she is no longer welcome in our house. My relationship with my mother will come to an end if she does not seek help for this. RANCE: If she isn't able to get help, people like that tend to break. And I am very, very scared that if she was to break, I wouldn't see her again. KRISTY: I'm Kristy, and I ran a daycare. I used to be a good mother. I'm Tiffany, and Kristy is my mom. When I was younger, my mom kept the house very nice. It was very immaculate. Now, it's like what went wrong? I don't understand how it could change so drastically. Nobody should be living in a house like that. I'm Dylan and Kristy is my mom. It's impossible to move around and just mounds of stuff that's not needed. I feel like she took my childhood away from me because of her junk. KRISTY: Well, he thinks I chose the stuff over him. Only bad mothers have their kids taken away. I'm Tanya and I'm Kristy's oldest daughter. Dylan, he has been living with me for the past two years. My mom is not happy with the fact that Dylan lives with me. But I can't imagine what that would feel like as a parent. It was hard. If she did love me, it's like she would have cleaned up her house and got rid of her junk and got me back. I would love to have him move back in with me. DYLAN: It was hard to go away from my mom, because she's raised me, and I felt sorry for her, because it's like now she's living on her own. It just made me feel bad. My mom has gone through a lot in her life. There have been trust issues, beatings. There have been assaults. The assault was pretty bad physically. He had a ski mask on and first thing he did was just hit me right in my nose. I had a lot of facial injury. I had a few teeth knocked out. It went on for quite a while. The detectives said, oh, it's one in a million that you'd ever have this happen to you again, especially by the same person. And then he came back nine months later. The clutter in my house has a good portion to do with my post-traumatic stress. TAWNYA: She's collecting all these items and doesn't want to get rid of anything so that no one can break in. KRISTY: I clutter in entryways. It's like a safety issue to try to protect me. Sometimes you're supposed to deal with things, and you don't. You just go on with life, but when these things happen, it's like it's in your subconscious. Oh, I love children. When you look through a child's eyes, you see a new life. TIFFANY: My mom had the day care. She did really good cleaning the areas where the kids were at. And other than that, the areas where she didn't have kids at, that's where all the junk went. And after a while, she had too much stuff to hide. At first, they would only inspect the rooms that were in use. And then they inspected-- they decided, you know, all the rooms. Her day care ended because of the hoarding. When that was taken away from her, that's when the clutter started to escalate. KRISTY: I don't think human beings are meant to be alone. When you get to this point, it's kind of like you're a nobody. It really doesn't matter. NICOLE: My grandmother's been talking about how if she was dead, nobody would have to deal with any of her problems. And it really concerns me. - Joanne. - Hi. Hi. I'm Dr. Zasio. My name is Dr. robin Zasio. I'm a licensed clinical psychologist, and I specialize in OCD and compulsive hoarding. What happened? I fell and-- ROBIN ZASIO: The first thing I noticed is that Joanne had a very serious leg injury. Ripped the tendons off the bone. Oh, my gosh. You feel like you can take me in your house and show me around? Yes. I think we can do that. ROBIN ZASIO: OK. All right. Tell me what I can do to help you. I had to help her get up the stairs and gently walk her into the house, because at any moment, she could certainly trip and fall in all the hoard. Not a lot of room to move in here, huh? My question to you is, did something happen in your life where things turned around and you stopped taking care of the house? JOANNE: Mostly, it was like a revenge thing that I started getting more-- accumulating more and like that when my husband started bringing his girlfriends into our house. You were married, and your husband was bringing in girlfriends. Yeah. And I think that really was one of the breaking points of where, I'll get you somehow, and-- ROBIN ZASIO: OK. --I found a way. ROBIN ZASIO: The relationship was so dysfunctional, her way of getting revenge was to hoard and to basically destroy the house. Joanne, I know you're getting tired. Let's move. I see there's a chair here. Let me have you sit down, and then I'm going to kind of keep looking around, OK? JOANNE: OK. [grunt] All right. I'm going to walk upstairs, take a peek. I'll be right back. JOANNE: OK. Oh, my gosh. Oh, Lord. In Joanne's case, the electricity went down and the plumbing went down. And rather than fix it, she adjusted by using diapers. Joanne, that's quite a sight up there. I'm really concerned about the level of contamination in this home and how much of this stuff is really going to be salvageable. If somebody came in and got rid of all your stuff today, what would happen to you? I'd end up probably with a nice rope down in the basement. So what I'm hearing, if somebody came in and take your stuff without your permission, you would kill yourself. I don't know. I really don't. ROBIN ZASIO: This really threw me off. At this point, I have to be very careful that the process doesn't go too quickly for her. I'm going to be here to help you manage the anxiety. And in the meantime, what I need to know from you is, until I come back tomorrow, are you going to be safe? Yes. My daughter is going to have me with her overnight tonight. Between now and tomorrow, we have a plan for safety, right? You're going to stay with your daughter. Yes. And if you need me at any time, you will call me. OK. OK? OK. ROBIN ZASIO: This is a very serious situation. I'm very concerned about Joanne's safety. TAWNYA: I really want my mom back. I want her to move on with her life and feel some more value in herself and belief in herself. Kristy? Yes. - I'm Mark Pfeffer. - Come in. Thank you. My name is Mark Pfeffer. I'm a licensed psychotherapist and specialist in the treatment of compulsive hoarding. It's interesting when you walk in your door, you have the saying, the best things in life aren't things. What are the best things in life? Family and friends and just enjoying life. The sign may have been a way for Kristy to remind herself what's really important. But it's like any of us that puts Post-It notes up to try remind ourselves to do something. After a while, they're invisible. Tell me a little bit about what this room was like when you used it as a daycare. KRISTY: Of course, I didn't have any of this junk here like this. The kids had room to play. Imagine someone who's a compulsive hoarder trying to run a business in her own home, serving other children and trying to live a life herself and for her own children. And it was really a credit to her to even attempt to try to do that. Tell me about this kitchen. Well, I used the stove about probably a month ago. I had to clean it, of course. And you also use the stove for the heating. Yeah. Because I didn't have some of the vents cleared out. MARK PFEFFER: She uses the oven at full blast to heat the home, which is really a terrible safety hazard that tells me that she's really given up, and that's very sad. What bedroom is this? Well, it used to be Dylan's room. MARK PFEFFER: What are your feelings about being in this room? KRISTY: I get emotional, and I miss him. MARK PFEFFER: Why is he not here? KRISTY: Because things had gotten so bad. MARK PFEFFER: What's your relationship with Dylan right now? I can see still that hurt and the resentment. Do you find that from your other children as well? Well, with the house situation and hoarding, yeah, they don't respect me. MARK PFEFFER: Kristy has always loved children. Ironically, she did not take care of her own children the way she should have. So they had no place to live the life of a normal child. If we get this place cleaned up and the room that Dylan could live in and a house that he could live in as well, do you think he would choose to come back? KRISTY: I don't know. I hurt him a lot. I know I did. I'm very concerned about Joanne. Before we can even start cleaning up, I'm going to have to assess her mental status to make sure she's prepared. Good morning. - Good morning. Good morning. I have gathered you, because yesterday you talked about a history in this family of people throwing things out without your permission. You did say if that happened that you would get a rope, go down to the basement and hang yourself. Corey and I have talked. And in order for us to move forward, I do need to hear from you that right now in this very moment that you are not at risk for harming yourself in any way. No, I'm not at risk. OK. Given that, I'm going to turn it over to Corey, who could talk about the plan. Due to the circumstances and things that you said yesterday, we really are going to slow it down a little bit. My name's Corey Chalmers, and I'm an extreme hoarding cleanup specialist. We're really afraid that she's serious about suicide. So to keep your anxiety and your stress down, we're going to bring everything by you so you can take a look at it, make a quick decision. Are you guys ready to get started? - Yes. - OK. All right. Let's go. Thank you. Here you go, big guy. Thank you, sir. I wonder what the late fee is on this. Christmas. Yeah. Can I keep this bag? This is where I worked. It's another life. It's another life. Can this bag go, Nana? Are they down there? I think we should make a deal that the rest of the bag is garbage. - OK. All right. You're comfortable with that, Joanne? I want to know if you're comfortable with it. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Wait. Bring it back. ROBAYN: Some of the stuff that's being thrown out, it is unopened and it's still in packages. So it all has to pass by her, and because we found something in the bottom of the bag that's not open, now she's going to go through everything. If we keep doing this, we're never going to get done. Oh, God. When they walked in, they were absolutely horrified. There's no way you could even live like this. ROBIN ZASIO: You cannot live like this. This is absolutely not safe. And if it wasn't for the fact that your mother has been living with family for the past six months, I would have had to call Adult Protective Services. There's a bag of used cat litter with cat [bleep] and cat piss all in it. It's broken open, and it's on top of the dirty dishes. ROBIN ZASIO: This is going to be a little overwhelming, but I think you need to see it. Oh, God. The fridge, when I saw inside that, it made me feel really sick. I feel I could walk through the dump right now, and it'd be cleaner. ROBIN ZASIO: Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right, actually. There's no way it could be any worse than this. I understand that she collects crap, but the bathroom, that's just nasty. Oh, God. Oh, God. [crying] I grew up in this house. My great grandmother, now my Nana. And I went upstairs, and it was, like, my whole childhood is, like, trashed on. No one should ever live in something like this. I agree. It's because it's your mom. And she's our mother. That's-- that's not bad, it's terrible. Oh, it makes me sick. This would be unhealthy for a rodent. You're right. My room starts getting a little messy, she says, you need to clean your room. You need to clean your room. And why is she doing it to herself? That's a question for her. Yeah. I agree with George. When we walk outside, you need to ask her. You need to-- you need to get an answer, because that's an-- that's a question I think we would all love to know at this point. RANCE: My daughter falling apart in front of me, it hurts me to see her hurting. (SOBBING) I love my Nana to death. I can't watch her live like this anymore. I can't. KRISTY: I bought a hoarding book. Oddly enough, I lost that book, because that's what hoarders do. Good morning, everybody. Morning. 30 degrees. Are we ready for this? I'm Dorothy Breininger. I'm a professional organizing expert, and I specialize in hoarding. The fact of the matter is, you've created a situation, and we're going to help you with it today. Kristy has a resume of bad memories-- divorces, assaults, a child being taken out of the house. So many things that this hoard represents. I really want to see them blast this hoard. It's just gotta go. And who are we here for? Me. All is for you. Thank you. Yeah. Got it? I haven't had that person all along. I totally get it. I get it. Is this group ready to take care of this lady? Yes, ma'am. Y'all ready to go? Lead on. I can't tell that I'm in a kitchen, except I know I'm holding onto these stove doors. I don't know how you could even live. It does break my heart that she would just live like that and that is something she would think that is OK. And I know you're studying your daughter's face. What thoughts are you thinking? Shame. Disgust. DOROTHY BREININGER: Yeah. [clatter] [grunt] I would like to keep this. It's an expensive preschool. We don't have preschool anymore. I'd like to keep it. And that's for the dogs, for Tawnya's house. It still squeaks. Do you think that would work better than that one thing you have? It's the same thing as Light Bright. I'm fine with the Light Bright I have. They may not want it for their children. That is something that we can definitely live without, and it's way worth it just to get rid of it so you can have your house. MARK PFEFFER: She was unable to let go of even some of the most basic items that were almost really just junk. And of course, that is the disorder speaking. I'm sure all this is garbage. And a little get. DOROTHY BREININGER: So Kristy, can you trust your daughter? She just said it was trash. I do trust you. It's just I'm compelled to do that. And I don't want it to go to their house. It stays here. But you want it here. That's kind of Dylan. I do not want this, mom. You need to get rid of it. I know it goes to the guitar. That's broken. KRISTY: The guitar shop right over here. Why'd you buy it? She just won't, like, give it up. She just keeps going at it and doesn't stop until she gets her way. I was just angry at her. He doesn't care. I could trade it in and get something. Why haven't you? Because it was yours. If I don't want it-- KRISTY: Like, I can't touch your things. She's just making a choice of keeping all of this stuff rather than having a relationship with her family. I don't want you to think the stuff's more important than you are. Listen, the house is-- All right. I think we need to get out of here. - Yeah. - That'd be cool. ROBIN ZASIO: All right. JOANNE: Right now, I feel like they will come out the door, they'll blow up and they'll walk off. Promise me you're going to do this. Yes. You're not going to do anything stupid. Please, promise. You can't do this anymore. It's not good. It's not safe. And I love you and I'm not trying to hurt you at all, please. Please know that. I just want you to get help. I want you to be safe. And I want you to be happy. OK? CORY CHALMERS: I was glad to see Nicky come out and hug Joanne like that. That was a very special moment, and I think that Joanne needs to hear that from all of them. I never knew that you were living like that up there. JOANNE: I believed my children would disown me, because my husband would always tell me they did not love me. ROBIN ZASIO: He told her that her children hate her, and I think that the hoard not only was revenge against her husband but a form of self-punishment. You are a wonderful person. You're a great mom. Let me be there for you now, OK? ROBIN ZASIO: I have one question. Do you believe what they're saying? Do you know that this is the truth? ROBAYN: (CRYING) Please believe me, mom. JOANNE: Yes. I feel happy and lucky that my kids did say that they still love me. And I found out that they loved me then too. All right, Robayn, the dreaded bathroom. It's hard to imagine what gets you to this point in life, where you don't have to throw away your own feces and just sit it on your floor. ROBAYN: I don't want to be here anymore. Why? This is so hard. What changed right now? I'm feeling really guilty. I feel guilty, because it's just wrong to ask another person to do that. We're here because we want to be here. We want to give her her life back, and we want to give you your mother back. I don't care if I have to play with poopy diapers all day long. This should be my responsibility to do it, but I can't do it. I'm too grossed out by it. You know, it's sad. I feel sorry for both of them. Joanne, can I see what's in your storage shed? Storage stuff. Rakes, hose. ROBIN ZASIO: I just want to take a peek. Can I do that? No. ROBIN ZASIO: I just want to see what's in there. A visual. Would that be OK? No, it can't be OK. Because then she's going to start [bleep].. And I've got stuff in there that's not mine. No, I'm not. Wait. She's going to go out. CORY CHALMERS: Robayn. Robayn. ROBAYN: What? Come here. ROBAYN: [bleep] and you know damn well why are we still lying? Why are we still covering? When you're forced to grow up as a liar, the last thing you want to do is listen to other lies. And when it comes from your own mother-- ROBIN ZASIO: Joanne-- That stuff is-- I don't want to do anything with it. I just want to see what's in there. That's all. ROBAYN: This is so hard. It's killing me not to yell at her, because as she's sitting in there lying, I just want to throw something at her and tell her stop [bleep] lying. CORY CHALMERS: Puzzling. I'm still puzzled. Who are you protecting by leaving this stuff in the shed? Are you protecting you? ROBIN ZASIO: There you go. Clearly, she's defending this stuff and didn't want us to come in here, because a lot of it is her stuff. It is her stuff. I can't keep doing this. I can't keep living the lie. What's going on, sweetheart? I just don't know what to do. Trying to even figure out how to do anything in there, it's very upsetting. I just want to get rid of it. You can't just keep it all. I can't re-buy it. Who would want all this stuff anyways? Get rid of it. You don't read this. I want to read to my-- I don't know what to do then. She doesn't want to get rid of anything. How do you-- how do you afford all this stuff? I don't have all this stuff. TIFFANY: I just felt like it was going to take forever and forever to go through things. And emotionally, physically, that's so draining for me right now that it all came crashing down. MARK PFEFFER: Talk about these stuffed animals, Kristy. What are stuffed animals usually used for? To cuddle with, yeah. So we're going to come upon a lot of stuffed animals. Tawnya has dogs. And they can eat 'em up every day and tug on 'em, and they love to do it. DOROTHY BREININGER: She's right here. Do you want them? - Mom, we don't need them. We just need to move on. DOROTHY BREININGER: I don't really care if the dogs have something to chew on. MARK PFEFFER: I was pushing Kristy to provide her the opportunity to make some decisions under high levels of anxiety so she could teach her brain that it's OK to live without some of her possessions. I'd like to keep a couple of these. But obviously, we can see that there's much more work to be done. [inaudible] Do you think that would work in the bedroom for the kids? What bedroom are you talking about, mom? The one downstairs. The one downstairs is full of stuff. You hang clothes or-- MARK PFEFFER: Kristy, we're trying to get your home in a place that's livable. What is the worst thing that would happen if you got rid of this item? I just don't want to have to buy something like this again. No one's going to make you buy it again. I don't like how you're living. Do you want this for yourself, mom? But you have to let us help you, and you're still putting up walls. This has been a big waste of time in here. We've made no progress. MARK PFEFFER: Make these decisions, and it'll help you get better. Just let it go, mom. I can't. How are you feeling today, first of all? I wanted there to be more taken out of the house. I just feel that later on, it's going to be harder for mom to get rid of stuff if the organizers aren't here. Dylan, how about you? She needs to decide what she needs to do and do it quickly. MARK PFEFFER: Tawnya, what are your thoughts today? I would like to see some progression made. It's just hard for me to move. That's why all those help's here, so they can help you right now, because they're leaving. They're going to be gone. One of the things I did want to talk about while I have the family here, if we got the house clean, whether or not, Dylan, you would want to come back. I know you love me. So I mean, we can start it off to where I could just come and start staying here like every weekend or something like that. Yeah, I think it'd be good to, like, come and spend some time with her and then just work my way from there. That's interesting, because the other day you weren't necessarily thinking that way. He was able to compromise in letting his mom know that he was willing to give her a chance but not yet fully committing potentially back into the situation that he left. KRISTY: Makes me feel really good for him to want to continue the process so he believes in me. And if I do and then I think that he'll be spending more time here. [clatter] Dylan, one more bag. Thanks. - How about two more bags? - Yeah. That can go. Garbage? - Garbage. - Good job. Good job. KRISTY: That felt good. The upstairs is clear, and then the downstairs is your storage area. Everything from upstairs came here. We have to set the guidelines for her, strong and clear. Only one bag or one box up at a time. Sort through it, make decisions, and then you can go down and get another one. If she can stick to that policy, she'll be OK. KRISTY: Whoa. One bag at a time. I think I can do that. My hopes and prognosis is good but guarded. I think with aftercare, the chances of them becoming a family unit and getting that house back is good. Is this a safe place for Dylan? Yes, it is. In fact, not only is it safe, the bathrooms are clean, kitchen is clean, there's running water, electricity. The house is clean. Everything is cleared from that upper floor. I think the house looks pretty good. Personally, I want us to, like, have more family things together. Christmas, Thanksgiving. That would be nice. Garbage. This all goes? ROBIN ZASIO: The family dynamic was very different today. Yesterday, there were a lot of emotions flying. Mom, I need to get a new frame for grandma and grandpa. ROBIN ZASIO: Today, it seemed like all of that was gone, that people were seeing how hard Joanne was working. And I think that they were feeling relief. This whole process, you've made thousands of decisions, and you look brighter and happier than I've seen you. I think that's nice. I appreciate it more than anybody would ever know. You actually said that you appreciated it. ROBIN ZASIO: This has been a very difficult process for Robayn. And today, for the first time, she heard her mother say thank you. It's not tears of sadness. I'm just happy that-- I can't believe you said that. Honestly, it can all go. Mom, what's this stuff? I have to confirm this with you, because this was an argument seven years ago. Do I now have your permission to throw out these broken phones? OK. It's going to take a couple of years to get my handyman badge. I would say that we were joking over the phones, it finally sunk into me that I'm doing better. ROBIN ZASIO: How do you feel about her throwing these phones away that was a major source of contention? This feels great. Thank you, mom. JOANNE: The process has helped me learn how to make decisions faster. You can throw 'em out. If I can't make up my mind in three or four seconds, then more than likely it's not needed. ROBIN ZASIO: Right now, we are sitting in your living room. We have de-cluttered the home, but there's going to be some work to do on the back end. Joanne has never dealt with the psychological pain in her relationship with her husband. She's never had an opportunity to tell her husband how she feels. If your husband was standing here, what would you say to him right now? JOANNE: I would say, Roger, you betrayed my trust that I had in you. I didn't deserve everything that you did to me. I didn't deserve being put up against the wall and hit, and I resent that. And that it should have been better. ROBIN ZASIO: Day one, she threatened to hang herself. She agreed to contract to safety, but she was ambivalent. Day two, she was still ambivalent but did it. Today, she said without hesitation she is not in danger of hurting herself. Can I leave here knowing you're going to be just fine? Yes. Yeah. ROBIN ZASIO: Yeah? - Yeah. ROBIN ZASIO: I think your prognosis is really good. Thank you. ROBIN ZASIO: You're welcome. NICOLE: Today, after seeing everything she's gone through and the way she's acting, and I feel OK. ROBAYN: Things went great today. Happy isn't even the word to describe what I am. I'm more like ecstatic. RANCE: She's able to come through the house with her walker and not have to worry about falling. CORY CHALMERS: We've taken away about 4 and 1/2 dump trucks, which is about 2,000 pounds each, so we're talking about 9,000 pounds of trash which was removed from this house. I think the prognosis is great for this family, as long as they participate in the aftercare. NICOLE: I'm definitely going to come over here more often, and now that I have-- she's got a house. Come over. She can bake cookies for me. JOANNE: Today, after everything, and finding that I do have support behind me, it's not even an option on the plate of going downstairs, except maybe to do laundry. That would be it. [music playing]
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