HEALING JESUS PASTORS' CONFERENCE, FREETOWN, CHURCH GROWTH AND A BURNING DESIRE

everybody says church growth the church can grow amen and there are many things that lead to the church growing aright but the church growing is like it's mysterious because it is like a mysterious group of a human being you cannot easily see what makes a person group and when the person grows we can't even see that this is the day that the person has grown it is not true when you are tall you don't remember the day you became so you just find out that you become tall these are not true and you don't know which meet us that made you grow tall and you don't know which fish you ask on which particular base did you grow tall and so because of that you have to really and think a lot and understand a lot to be able to see and identify where and when you are growing and what is making you grow so that is what people have done in science and biology they have studied the science of food and the different things that make you grow and they have come up for because a balanced diet and through the balance size you will grow normally with enough protein carbohydrates fat mineral and fight through these you will grow they have found out the analyzed and then they analyze again and I found out that there's carbohydrate in curry carbohydrates is right and what you eat yes ah cassava right you eat a lot of rice here is that your baby food that that was also my father's main food and he used to say because of Sierra Leone because it was not a name food in Ghana at that time then they found out that there was a lot of protein in fish and they analyze and analyze and the founders a lot of protein is neat and in beans and in egg and what again milk and then they analyzed fat and they saw those a lot of fat in oil butter milk now and so on and then they saw that if you eat a lot of the oil you become fat and soft and if you eat a lot of rice young cassava Gary Lackey with small meet you become big mega in Nigeria we see or a ball our user and press a lot of fat people like bread I always review it pretty thoroughly and then vitamins it helps you to be well all these analysis and discovery even help people to know how somebody grows and even how you can mix the peasant grow in a particular way but if you don't want to think and you don't want to learn you can never know all right now there are different things does make the check grow just like vitamin B is not one thing you cannot eat only meat and grow you cannot keep only right and grow you cannot keep drink only oil and grow you drink one glass of oil every day and grow it will not work do you understand what I'm saying so what I'm saying is that you need other pasta to study you see such like how in the natural we have studied biology and see the mixed-up case right up this and all of those this carbohydrates is false in bread in this in that is that and it causes this and you realize that it's not just one thing one day I went to buy some meat and the meat was full of fat and then this I said this is not good mix and they said yeah it is what they are feeding the animal with you see when you work by chicken you see that some tickets have fairy but when you open it you see that it is fast it because of what that you can have been eating that get it checked groove in a bad way do you understand that is why it fast like that and then there are some that I'm not so fast but they are certain size and is because of what they are eating so ladies and gentlemen it is important for us as believers as Christians and as trusted to study the subject of check room check group and that one I wrote a book if you are pasta this might be your favorite book put it in your room by your bed in your toilet if you have a toilet that you can stay a bit longer in it have one day all right if you are long dead every time you are there you don't have to waste time at all you open and you get a revelation hallelujah and this book and this one the megachurch they are the book that will help you to have check growing when recently I went to Kenya and let a pasta he said to me which of I never knew you had written many books because I only knew one book and that book was this one the megachurch he said somebody gave me I don't know how he got it is that me and my wife they are Canyon yeah my wife with this now as we read this book megachurch and we were amazed so we decided to do everything that is in the book so we started how to start a church what to pray how to be anointed how why if you have a negative and it told me he said you will never know that is actually that I back in our sitting room and we started said to this we have more than 800 people sitting there which is more than the people here you decipher when you are sitting there on Sunday morning Kenyan with this book megachurch it's I didn't know you had any other book is the only book I have here his wife you remember yeah you were there wait please I was there What did he say he brought some pictures also to show and he says he had this book somebody gave it to him somebody from our text in Kenya gave him this book and he was wondering what actually do do with this book but he and his wife sat down they studied it and they went from chapter to chapter it was like a manual they were using to see what other whether the book was really going to work for them so they use it from chapter to chapter to chapter and ugly as they used a book they realized that the church was growing under a liquor about a year or two they moved into a bigger hole and still using that book they built a church we had a thousand members the developers away the dental so later on the church became a very large state and other time I was speaking to Bishop he was he was passionate at of eight hundred members with his wife uses only this book no other encyclopedia no other manual glory nothing just does the book and and what you said that bless me was that they actually use the book in topics from chapter to chapter they took it and just studied it and it brought about great said good using this book hello checks passing to check those in your room how many would like to have a chat with 800 people in there physically not that they feel you are not the one to train for the SM that is a lot of people if you if you like our just count here one two three four five six seven eight nine ten one two three four five audit is fully fifty this is fifty one two three four five six seven eight nine ten ten people and one two three four five this section is 50 people so when we say somebody I've got eight and read people that are sitting there in the morning on Sunday practically it's not a small thing it is easily to mention Oh what I'm 7,000 people came when you count one two three four five six you'll be surprised yeah so and fifty times two is what's before you get one hundred before you go to 200 300 400 500 so it is possible so I'm just explaining to you that God can really bless you you know through a book yesterday I was sharing about that it can make the difference in your life we're now just drove is it possible and if you don't study if you will never become like the secular people who have understood human bodily growth with involve so many different things because I set out in death row because you preach well some of the best we just have small teachers and I chat doesn't just grow because you don't preach well because I have seen some of the largest edges with various part of poor preaching that you cannot understand one day I was watching a sudden pastor preaching on television and I tell you I try to understand what he was preaching because he has so many people in the church houses I said Wow What did he say so I put on that remote control louder so that I could get what you would think hey I listen and listen listen and listen listen and listen I could understand what you wanted at the funny that you are not getting what I'm saying I'm okay I wasn't getting it I was also not getting it every time I put on a salad I see him more people he will preach a message you can understand other people are listening yes in Wow pasta it is powerful so that's why I also saw that you may preach well by your church window you will know even feature about the church also wet why because there are different things that this text you have to understand it because if it if you don't eat meat and you get only provided that you add some binge to it it will be as though you are eating meat do you see so sometimes you you don't do something but some other thing that you are doing helps adjustable so please remember that this is a part that feminine for pastor amen I mean people who want to be in the ministry alright so what is the first things there are several things and I want to give you five of them that are going to help you to develop Delta one with carbohydrate one is protein one is fat one is minerals and one is vitamins all right so the first one is a spending vision and desire that is the number one thing to make your tech grow you need to have a very desire as a vision bowling only desire bowling desire and vision sorry amen amen a pony desire and a vision hallelujah are you there are you listening to me okay what is the burning desire a very desire is a clear desire listen when I started the church in Ghana we were in a classroom got a bless our church we have grown until we are no more thing in that classroom we don't have our own Czech Cathedral Alleluia so it is possible that is what this book is called church group it is possible I want you to believe your every part of it in here you are going to be in your own check with your own jet building full of red bags full of people coming amen and I'm giving you five ingredient in the world ingredient is that you must have a burning desire and vision a vision amen and without that burning vision for church growth you cannot have church growth because there are many processed food their main desire is that they should be financially ok your main desires are the offering should be more your main desire is that unless you should be invited to America or your main desire is that the woman who is selling captive materials in town should join your church or your male desire is that you should go to some people's houses to pray for them and to give you money all your big desires that you speak some prophecies and they will happen and people will be afraid of you in town all your veggies I envisioned it is you have a nice Nissan Pathfinder or a Mercedes Benz or a nice car that is your main these are your main television is that you should move from your house to stay in a big house in a good area of three towns such as well what are the good areas is written in station Hill fishing for oh he'll follow follow hill station I might yeah so Ethel is your main vision you see then your main vision is not as good vision so you must have a good vision now if for instance you are a doctor and you don't have a good vision for people to get well you will not be a very good doctor why because if a woman comes and she has to give back and you you would normally use it at all she can deliver normally but normal delivery you will charge how much how much does it cost to deliver a baby in return free of charge is it free and if you are going to have an operation how much is it private 1.5 million project please please can you hello please everybody required its 1.5 million for a normal delivery but how much will it be for operation about Justin hi among the operation is 1 / but a normal is how much in a private hospital about about about 800,000 and then operation is 1.5 no yeah 200,000 for normal delivery 200 and then F operation is 1.5 million okay so if I'm in the hospital and people are coming and my male vision my vision as a doctor in the hospital is to get money anybody who is coming to deliver I look at you as a mother your baby's head is too big it cannot pass through this clip to the operation is 1.5 so that I can get my 1.5 everybody I get 1.5 1.5 1.5 1 4 5 and then when they stick with Americans and the pressure has got malaria instead of giving the patient color what you choose Valera with assassinate assassinate so instead of dealing the present access to date to go to out yeah well you need admission cap because it's private hospital then you go inside you like at all you did drip you could have DD what have to drink but you tell you need drip because a drip is water so you give trick recheck this everyday you slip in the room is how much one night is how much 40,000 50,000 night you need to still not mission for 45 days so that 250,000 for admission every day trip you would take 3 liters a day 1 1 that is 100 milk so 3 Lisa today's six trips a day and four days then a test instead of attested that you can swallow the give you injection so that you feel that yeah they are pretty nice but the vision of the doctor is to get money hey so you will see that and it's a hospital I've got his own laboratory hey you would you love tests urine to blood for the liver function kidney function metabolic this difference s more if you princess that is footsteps skin cells everything kid Roger tells you do all for malaria why because the vision is not that the people should be well but the vision is that you should get money do you see so you will get well but the doctor also get a lover it's attempted in the church we are fastest instead of us having the main dishes that's a special how we have other business as well and those other change how we do the pastor awake and they change how we behave and attended our attitude towards people and we are no more as we should be opposite because we have another vision a part of the real bridges that a father should have for the church to grow and for a lot of people to be saved so it is important to have a right vision as a pasta and it's like pasta the bad vision is that your church should grow because it kept growing means a lot of different things are working and are working in the right way are you listen to me so many years ago when I went to Korea young Richard was teaching about this and instead of the pasta vision the person must have a vision for the church to grow otherwise the church would not grow I didn't understand it because I thought that all process one the object is to grow but I realized that first of all the reason why you even have to preach about something like this is because first of all people have addition to the a bit to the side of the rear vision maybe the bishop or something and a little more so because of that because I tell you if you're depending what is the main vision that you have you will do certain things as somebody was asking other well why when we go to Canada because we want to win souls why would we go to Canada bloody want to win well we cut tariffs all our traps and our path and we come here for to say why I look at me to get something from here you don't have a funny we spend to come here we are not getting it did one dollar we have any for so much money's to be here a big thing is free everything is that everything is losing money there's nothing business there's no aspect of what we are doing that has any profit or nothing yes that's nothing either not if you don't have a business for something you you will never do it they got it is totally against other type of ideas it doesn't make sense when they selling it that is it doesn't make sense at all and we are not American come from America we are also from Africa you call me a white man but when I go that they call me a black so now I'm in DC so many of the fastest and Wanda the dishes is not clear that is why you stand god we don't really have the kitchen that will make you have the right place because the piston is slightly to the side of the lip then another thing about the vision is that the vision is not painting easy it's not clear yet a process should be able to count the numbers in your church so in this book the megachurch I have a chapter the first chapter of the second chapter how to mega church group how to count your member you think when you sit one day somebody came to my church and that time I checked out about 800 people then I went to London and I had someone Thursday that oh I was I hear that you have you had a powerful convention who more than 8,000 people 8,000 people that that was about four twenty years ago it is not so now I don't have eight thousand people but you say everybody report any number at all that they feel away this is hello social in 2000 so pastors need to we need to know how to close now when you know how to come that is when you will see that you have got only 50 members and that is where you know that you have 63 people and that is when you know that today 38 people came to church and today I ask that it be - now it is only from there that you can have a vision it's when you know where you are that you before you know where you can have a vision that is the only way to have a vision the building block of a vision is to know where are you that is what help you to know where to go and when you know where are you then you can know where are you going but because we still a shame to come when we come the people that we set up oh they are so few but I tell you what pastors and evangelists tell lies about how many people are coming to their churches or the a crusade both of us tell life we will go to heaven and they are calling lion evangelists and pastors will be included in terms of the numbers they have been calling and telling you because the Bible says the owner of the King is in the multitude of the people so well as more people it's important to the patient when there are fewer people is a disgrace to the pension so both of us mothers want to mention many many many big numbers but actually there is nothing so when you now know that I have 70 people then you can have a pending vision 400 people now as you are a thought and a happy one is your burning vision you must be able to measure a particular number and you must know that number that you are correctly and the moment it will take for you to move from this number to this number so every pastor if you would reject you go I'll tell you one of my fastest in one country I told him that I will visit your church when you have 200 people I said when you cross 200 and I said not multiples of one service human hundred people are sitting there then I'll cover this issue so he was no he was so full of a penny vision follows a very vicious because he had about hundred and said then I was coming to that to the area and he did try them two or three every day so when I saw him at the camp I said how is a said Bishop we were 192 oh I try to have so that we could have called the 200 so that I can tell you to come I said no how welcome you have to cross 200 hey so you see that because you have to cross the 200 you add the pasta you see that and he told me that now the paper that is easier than it is in book megator because you would not be looking for anything that can make your church group that that is what a vision that the vision that you say and do whatever there must be Ultima to to make yourself better for the digital and the visit is an internal engine for your church to grow and something that guides you nobody was telling you that something is telling you what to do that vision will make you speak to the right people it will make you talk to settings if you make you read certain books it will take you reset and books which you wouldn't have read this is the reason why many of us don't read we don't have a vision if you have a business you cannot live because other prisoners and people are flipping that obviously those people don't have a betting vision for jet growth but maybe there are no process or yeah whatever but if you are offending with some a gas can be sucking on my dead girlfriend that is the message that you are applying this world and the president's cabinet police check somebody who's not an attack in a classroom someone who's ever sat in a classroom also hot ten people five people six people and people 20 people tested people for I just want to have 40 members as I'm sharing with you how your test and group go to the hub but houses of members houses and more than 1000 check it and I'm telling you sharing with you how to make yourself look and all that doing is to sleep obviously it's not you're failing vision one day I went to America and I was going for a Benny Hinn crusade and because I'm interested in miracle I'm interested in Benny Hinn that is where I learned about miracle so I was so excited because somebody was able to recognize me and they took me on stage so I was sitting on stage behind the transfer like this but the people I came with acted with about hi people they were not able to get a visa to come on the stage so they were in the congregation do you understand what I'm talking about but Mina when I thought on said I was thinking to myself I should have not been in the congregation because the people here were simply better than the people at the back but anyway I suffered in either that it means unimportant so let me hear suddenly and my people they were sitting they also had good seats one two three four they were in the front one two three four five and they walled it had the people like him so we were waiting waiting waiting waiting for Benny Hinn suddenly he came you know how he comes when he when they said is that they had a captain at the back and they give him a microphone and they put on the microphone at the back then you host a microphone that he walked - they're catchin shrinkage yes I thought I was sipping I was watching epicness I was what did because I was arrested so when it came on and he was thinking I was watching my this is Benny Hinn here and I'm also sitting here I was so excited so I was enjoying I was willing to hate my people my people who are in the front end I did have their scene okay and join it so I just look up you know how would you look to your friend you see Sally how is when I look this way when I look this way that's my people they're my people one of them was sleeping like his eyes would cover up Vanina tell me sing it oh what a shot what a shot what a shot on a shot what a shot and I realized that these people are not as interested you understand they don't have a painting vision and I have a penny vision because all that I want to do just what is that because I only see it on television I have not seen it lies it was my death time or by second time I've never seen it in America before so you realize that is the substance of that very envision that makes you not even reaches in books or even go to certain places but when you are the very efficient for something you see that you'll be sitting there you see that you'll be reading you will see that you'll be listening you nobody will have to tell you what to do and that is why sometimes when we are having conferences we say that it is forecasted because when you are talking about Selena has to do with access people are not father I'm not interested in what we are talking about so he loves rather talk about generous Christianity another actor what a part I want to hear to help him to let the check wet or to let a chat group do you understand what I'm talking about so you need to have a bending vision for said group now that penny vision will let you go for certain conferences that you wouldn't have gone for big off you will never have gone because you didn't have a vision for church growth when I started the church we are still having our session of a classroom and we are moving on I wanted to have a picture and I said the pattern of head off who has a big church is young Vito in Korea so I went to Korea I flew all the way to Korea huh yes I could sit there and I saw the SAP I attended seven services I attended from any more than every service on Sunday I wanted to see I wanted to learn everything was interesting to me it makes me rich young guiteau's book a book that was written in Korean and translated into English I was visited trying to understand and relate what he was saying to how it can apply in camera practically nobody told me to read it and I was not looking for money but you see when you fulfill your main business all the other visions after that now I have money I don't even need anything I don't need anything when I getting so big I don't either I shall go any any chance any of the Tet Offensive in really got on the Bishop of all of them yeah I don't even need I don't even need to get to my salaries from here I can't we can be safe from about more than 68 countries including here I understand it the way efficient is correct you see that it was aligned you if you you it could let you even go to Bible School and you make you land if you make you do certain things because your name is only one I want a church I want to have a church and I want that text group and I want that check to be big that's all and if that is your in whole you know you will listen to messages nobody will call you as it dude you listen to preach it you need to have you listen to anybody Rik Emmett SW ask you somebody who colleges how many people I am your check yourself you be listening hey yourself you you you you'll be shocking in yourself you will travel but what do you advise you nobody will ever so you will tell you this because inside you the result is kill defecated there is a vision and there is a try there is a dream there is something that is buried in you I have fasted I know they would not there was not people less than a thousand people in their lives and ministry I know and there are some I Louise would you never have it because they don't have that bending vision so this is the number one and everybody who come up now yo get your scepter about sweetening Korea in November he said something to me a look he was it that everything I don't want to sound proud or anything cuz I would sit in my room and for the people he was talking about in prayer if you don't have any I tell you if you have a belief in your hand from today you live it delete it did you hear that I believe it you can have a megachurch it is possible it is possible and it is going to happen practically in your life it's gonna happen practically in your ministry amen are you listening to me so that is the first area brings chest growth the second area that brings chest growth and I'm just giving you five of these areas because of time is lay people lay people amen Leymah lay le why hallelujah no what is a lay person and lay person turn with me to second Timothy chapter 2 and layman is somebody who is not paid by the church amen if your church is going to grow late people must be very important in the church that is people who are whom you don't take Amen people who you don't take who are not paid by any anybody they wept for God without payment if the check is going to work now or historically churches that have become large and great and big I catches that use lay people who are not paid I will give you three examples that I hope you will know one is young he chose church in Korea most of the people who work in the church are lay people and many of them are women most of them are lay and most of them are women women is another but it is it is in the book but it is not I'm not talking about that today but mostly they say if your tech is going to grow and everybody you have to pay I'm sorry it's not gonna be easy given the to say that we do we don't pick dialogue there are people that you see around they are not paid some ones are wearing their t-shirts on our movies they are doing this yellow face some of them are not mediator some of them they get influye of their own they use their own money to come here yes if everybody's face it's not easy to do the work of God so where you are the church where we for you man I shall we have to fail you before you think we have to pay you before you join the fire we have to fail you to control themselves we have to tell you before you play instrument we have to pay you then you are coming to spoil the whole cake remember remember what I'm saying remember what I'm saying youngji shows church is example in Ghana we have a very very large church called the Church of Pentecost did I misjudge the Senecas here to the pinnacle Wow a very large and famous Czech called the Church of Pentecost they use leg people what am i right and they are called elders if after the churches and they don't pay them true or not true yeah I got and that is what makes catch it like any chakra is sterilized there are people you don't pay lazy and they are all working if the tech is working and it is large enough people we don't pay and their place in the church without these people you cannot do very much I will show you why the tab check that you may also know how is a test originating from Nigeria and I'm sure it's going to be a church one day that you will even know that it came originally from Nigeria easily because very people are not Nigerians would be that's it and it's a church called redeemed Church of God are they also here I'm sure there is any regime person here yeah daily regime pasta here yeah they will be here because they are mega church they have a vision to have a catch every five-minute walk must have a catch in a developing country yeah and in a developed country every pending it's bright so when they region check we'll have so many people do not even see the fossils not even be Nigerian he will be from wherever so many of them that's another check that is very very very big when they meet in Legos they can have about 4 million people coming to one Sabbath yes but when you see the place do it is use it in the amazed the check that kept them where the hole is is a sense from I don't know how to describe it it should be it will be about the baby about the stage of time 10 yes it not opened 20 where this where they meet in Nigeria and all the people that are working that they don't pay them the youth but when when you give your life to Christ you you go into a bath there will be a bath and then the bass takes you to the front of the church do you understand what I'm saying there people when you give your life you guys you go into a bath because that field is very big so the batter's come to take you to the front for the author for those who are give it a lot to Calabasas bring them from the back of the cache to the front [Music] no you can't walk a stupa and what is the characteristic of this church again left before people that are not paid by the change lenses must reach the fridge there are also people who are tasted up go to the best times of them so they are 90 to 120 so if you decide and believe that people who are not paste must work in the church then a lot of people can be brought in and it can become a great Church or whatever called a great house if you read second Timothy chapter 2 that's 20 it says is a great house okay in a great house there are not only vessels of gold that is about not only full times the highest is goes full time passes a bishop or hopes of whatever only goal but also and all Silva but also that it would because every time we are going to sell to get money go fill the out of wood and of add some people to honor and some to dishonor huh if your chat is really bigger you have gold you have filled up you have wood and you will have a now a presence we are going to sell your gold your silver your wood and your earth all right how much will you get when you selling wood that is more like this not much how much will you get out of when you sell a small like this not much how much will you sell yourself silver which is like this ah you start to get a lot another do sell if you just go that is like this you start will get a lot more so you realize that what God is showing you is that some can get a lot and some can get a little more and some can give little and some can give very little but in a large house all of these are included in the large house or they are types of Dessel I use is the house that is great it is great and then you have in the great house honor and dishonor it is life there will be this honor people will sit people will make mistakes but it's a sign that it is a lighthouse it is not a lighthouse do not have those things but when it's a large house yes when I went to Korea I was surprised when I wish they took out their premise and I saw a cemetery as I wanted it as notice that catches them as a while hasn't got your symmetry I realize that look it is a big change you will have the symmetry because people will die if it is big it is not that there is anything but where there's a lot of people people die it's not that the God is not with that change what I bought is not with you but all these things are part of being like are you listening to me so my friends have Church growth is something that is possible through ordinary people amen now tell me three two numbers chapter 11 in a larger everybody say I'm going to be part of a large house lift your right hand and help yourself say I am going to be part of a great house amen and the Lord said unto Moses numbers chapter 11 a men gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel whom down lowest to the elders of the people hallelujah and officers over them and bring them unto the tabernacle of the congregation I will come down and talk with me there I will take up the theory which is upon thee I will put it upon them and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee hallelujah everybody say bear the burden share the burden amen when you are having laid people like Moses you will be able to share the burden with other people it's not the belly is not just on the senior pasta but is on everybody else hallelujah so a lot of people will share that burden with you amen because you are sharing the burden with the people are you listening to me all right now it is very important for you to believe and understand that God wants to give us mega churches amen and the second important thing that will help your church to be a mega church is what I didn't hear you I did not hear you please lay people amen the third area that you need to know or mega church is pastoral ministry amen pastoral ministry hallelujah everybody say pastoral ministry how to be a good pasta amen now if you are not interested in learning some of these things your church can never become a large Church now how how do you be a good pasta you can also say how can you be a good president because there are some president which are who are better than others that some president who names is to bring war it's true their main is to bring war when they come the world war an example what the Kaiser of Germany during the First World War when he came into power his mail was to bring war and in those days to fight in a war was glorious it brings glory but after the first world war that war was began to be seen as an people think that before it was like something growing you go to warn you can really stir up the farmer for our efforts as well as well because so many people died it was seen as opposite that prospective object of war the concept of war was was changed in the minds of people and then Hitler when he came into power in 1932 or 31 when he killed the power 1933 six years he was just starting to prepare for war because that he studies how his presidency what he won the election and he became you know that there's a Chancellor of Germany like Helmut Kohl or what the woman is Becker he was a Chancellor of Germany alright but his main thing was a did you fight so he started for six years making factories rose factories to make gun drill and every proposal by the time they started the world affairs of the feminized in 39 they are so many planes turns over he was respectful adversity nazar they were not repent over the president of Allah you're thinking of war is it so there is different ways of feeling leader so now I do have a pasta whose length is two two parter the people in a setting with you can really let your church grow and God can really flex your pastoral ministry so you must develop what we call the path of shepherding amen how to be a good shepherd and that I have the whole book on that it's going to take forever to teach about this that the app of Shepherd a is something that is very very important for you to study so that you know how can I be a good leader that's a people when they stand for elections you'll just with because of how they act how they do it in Ghana for instance somebody like president Rollins who became president he overthrew the government and so on he somebody that everybody knows that if he was to stand for election is likely to win is it today because of how he was is somebody who can go into a fishing boat with the fishermen and bow fishing with them to see the problem that we have you can come into the data at the President and sweep it with with the people when they're dead bodies a he will come and carry some of the dead bodies himself as the president you carry that carry the dead body inside and walk to the water with his shoes and everything and come so it's a type of person and the way is what about it it is only did a revolution on that you find out that many people would like that kind of person to be a leader so what I understand is good or bad that what I'm saying is that when you I pasta you can decide to be a pasta in a certain way and that way can help you to have a lot of people come into your church and grow it in a subtle way amen and that is what we call the art of shepherding tell with me to John chapter 10 John chapter 10 verse 11 Jesus said I am The Good Shepherd hallelujah in other words I am the good master I'm the good pastor and the pastor who is a good putter so that means you can have a good shepherd or a bad shepherd you can others good pasta or a photos of a good pasta as I say you can have a good president or a photo is a present a good president depends on the type of person and so when we want to learn how to be a good Shepherd or a good pastor there is no other person better than Jesus Christ will not teach us how to be a good shepherd how to separate the sheep how to act how to breathe how to do the things that a good shepherd will do Alleluia so this is a book the art of shepherding and a lot of a call transform your pastoral ministry amen the next thing that I will given you five things that'll help church growth the next one is check growth and prayer amen I call it gets image all right in first in Luke chapter 22 verse 39 Bible says and he cannot improve seeded as his custom was to the mount of olives and his disciples followed and he said to them Luke chapter 22 verse 39 church grows and gets Emily or Chad Ruth and prayer and he came out and proceeded as was his custom to the Mount of Olives all right and the disciples also followed him amen when he arrived at the place he said to them pray that you may not enter into temptation amen and then his Rayden withdrew all right and then he began to pray again he said not my will but thy will be done and an angel from heaven appeared to him strengthening him amen number one you will learn that at Gethsemane when a pasta takes time to go to the Eternity you will have the turning point of your ministry the turning point of your ministry is not at this conference the turning point of your ministry is in the Garden of Gethsemane when you are alone with God [Music] amen because the public blessings are found after private times with God amen so many process only public ministers all right but many of us must become ministers who preach and who pray privately and wait on God privately are you listening to me are you understanding what I'm saying yes so I want to encourage positive when I was with young teacher recently he said something he said how he said that if I have unhappy the church I would sit in my room and call the members from the room I would sit in the room and call the members to come to the church that is how he will get people to come to the church and that is what he does it is by the prayers privately and as they get families was a turning point when Jesus had the real victory and that is where a pasta will have real victory amen all right so that is very very very and I want us to know that Gethsemane is a very important place for you to develop your ministry amen how many are going to develop your prayer ministry so the fast step to judge booth is what bonding desire and the second step towards judge booth is what is what lay people amen and the third step is what pastoral ministry or the art of shepherding is under sue and the next one is what judge growth and prayer amen then the next one is church growth and copying copy have you had a wet copy copycat to copy or to follow amen it is very important that you copy and you follow people that are successful if you want to be successful you must learn how to copy hallelujah is it biblical to copy is it biblical to copy Genesis chapter 1 verse 26 Bible says and God said let us make man in our image and after our likeness amen now because the Bible says that in Ecclesiastes chapter 1 verse 9 the thing which has been is that which shall be amen the thing which has been is that which shall be and that which is done is that which shall be done amen there is no new thing under the Sun is there anything where obviously be said see this is new it has been done before of old hallelujah so ladies and gentlemen there is nothing new Under the Sun if you want to develop or you want to learn you'll not learn and develop the ability to learn from somebody else everybody tend to Hebrews of the six s 12 the Bible says that we must be followers of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises of God you'll not inherit the promises of God through faith and patience by following everybody says following face following following following following following the act of following you must follow follow follow follow follow hallelujah and if you don't follow follow follow you cannot learn because we are sheep and sheep land by following they know where to go by following the leader so if you want to do well in ministry you must learn to follow and to copy so the Bible says what has been done is the thing which will be done the thing that made a peasant check grow is the same thing you will do that will make your church group because there is nothing new there is no new things when I went to Korea recently or some years ago I was amazed when I saw the churches are you listening to me and I saw the cat and there was no the Africa was a copy of an Appel copy of this copy of every car D of mid-1 in Korea when you go you if you see advocated best Korean based I tell you do not believe it is it is nicer than a bit everything even the symbol on it is just like the bed that is not a bit they are copied and that's why today Korea South Korea is one of the most advanced countries in the world all of us you see our televisions they copy everything worked out on the copy and that is why they are move fast you are moving slowly because you are not prepared to cooking yeah when you start to copy you that will be faster in your life and your ministry and that is why when you are young fashion it is easy for you to copy that is why young people are able to learn more things but when you are older is price it examples you put my to learn from something or copy something you know but Hebrews 6:12 says we should follow people who to faith and patience have inherited the promises so for me in my experience it is like copying people that I have come to where I am I am the number one copycat of Africa I tell you yeah and the African public a champion and I will telling anybody for championship competition in copycat competition under titleholder heavyweight title the copycat competition is true anything that I'm who you can ask me where did I copy it from and I will show you a pink copy everything yeah by you using you don't even know unless I tell you you will not do but I'm trying to help you and I'm telling her visitor you to also learn how to copy free dr. Shiro copied it is feeling shy you don't have to feel shy if you feel shy you can't copy once you feel shy you can copy it properly this show this trick once you feel shy L hope you will in Genesis chapter 1 verse 26 God said let us make man in our image and then so if you wanted to make a copy of himself so the copies idea comes from God are you listening to me because he wanted to copy himself in man then he met the plan as animals and he kept an a seed so that they would bear fruit I start their own kind with it to make when you make a mango tree for when I came here I thought mango tree here say nothing garden is that copy and they are copy them seldom ever became a variations always the same mango tree there so member tree with stones the Omaha treetops on their big copy it's a principle from God a leader because people copy in exams then it's like a bad thing but I'm not talking about apart from exams a part of exam in normal life it is you I later you want to dress well look at somebody who dresses well don't think just look and the present should be like you it's a pessimist as a packer is very fast and the person is able to dress nicely and you are also very fast you have to find such a fact pattern and copies you don't have to read whether dress of a slim patient hey [Music] one day I saw Paris fast lady she was wearing the dress of a very slim girl I said no do do do do do do do do so if you are a pasta you want to have checked grow if you are a minister you want to have miracle you are a preacher you want to survive you want to be there you want to do well look at somebody who is doing it who I've done it that you can understand what the person is doing I just copy what the person is doing chef Leslie don't be a sin I'm telling you take it from me that I say that I am challenging you to African copycat competition I am The Champion if you want to challenge me for my side till you come and I will show you anything that I'm doing you can't go just as easy aspect and I will show you where I copied it from and when I take you then I show you you be ad agency a because when you copy a lot of things as you combine them together you can't see what it is at a point one day I went some I went somewhere and the person told me Dada the messages that I pick up original and I wanted to laugh in my head and I was saying to myself that this person doesn't know how much I have followed some people yes with all you see except it's a spiritual principle not only will you receive that when you receive the power of God that term that is coming from the path of every man who has power and get that group out of him is it is a half power that was when he met a shameless woman who was not ashamed to touch just the hem of His garment power came from the passion from Jesus to death but all their photos and processes designed all the big guys around then there's no us what's our where this is not a security issue but they were not consider whether or not experience in power they were thinking of something else but somebody is receiving power so after a man ago they're always power gift and greatest coming out of the person for those who have the ability to resist one day I was sitting at the table airport I was at a board meeting with a pasta sometimes I like to cross my legs so I crossed my legs and my my leg was like this and you are sitting on my right side and my my foot was crossed like this he never he never spoke at the meeting afterwards he took me later his official every time the under of your foot hacked me an electric shock came to me as I was sitting at the table where does a few people he said everything under the hood and electric shock was coming through me I was even surprised what I was infinity electric shock what I'm trying to explain to you is that every man of God has power and gifts like you which if you have something you can even take it from the present the president even know that the thinner it is is he been coming to you because the people that I have lengths from they don't even know that I've learned from them recently I met Benny Hinn again second time upon the one I was telling you yesterday the one or the short man came to take him away I met him again and I had my small computer and I showed him I put it on and I showed him I said do you see what is the first 1986 those are the videos of hit that I'd be watching 19 it is more than 20 cent I should look how do you get this and I said this is very powerful they said I thought you should put your syllabus immediately call service' he said I should put this on tell him he was rickety he didn't otherwise he has not even married sleep like that anointing and miracle yes I don't know why yet one child with his wife which is finnish spitz ha I hope that project to show you wow the people that have never been a pleasant way to go the power and the gift I've been collecting from them I just receive and I'm moving on wow what a shock what and shop where I shop when I shop so chat growth and your ministry your calling it depends on your topic ability which I'm telling you something I hope I can take it in Chinese outside yeah basically depends on your vision how much vision you have because God always brings people into your life so that you can learn from them yes and you can learn from what the peasants say and what the place is time and then you can enroll in a championship competition or copycat championship and go to bless you what are the five key areas are giving you these are just five of the things there are many more but are just using five number one is what for church good I cannot hear you born in desire number two is what lay people and the ministry is and also how many are going to use lay people or if you use less before you will be rich all churches which are full become rich I have a pastor friend he used to pay 2,000 pounds every month for instrumentalist to play and I came to his second I thought I preach I said let people should play instrument you shouldn't pay and he's threatened to come and play instruments in your check shame on you small kids my father what is jelly on he wanted two shillings to learn how to play and he's got them did not think that's why he baby so when I played the piano in the check I see it as a great a kid that's what I'm able to catch because I play something a good I'm going to charge all right no it's a crazy it's a messy because some people do not stop and when you are old that you cannot even learn how to play the piano you cannot learn it so when they stuff ahead me he said Wow because all this is London they say all of the way this other there's a two thousand pounds into two thousand pounds a week because a week other body said it was a 8000 Emerson so when he when I left he caught all the is Jamaica and he said from today da I don't like alien 40 and he said updates under that they continue the chest no one plane if you come play for God place they couldn't play if you don't like it go then some people select this people came the more people they said today he told me today I have spent one two three four they are all waiting to play children up there more so he told me this was about eight years ago so I was subletting how much money we owe Smith eight years ago they found a week times 52 weeks times eight years wow that's a lot of money to pay down look if you are paid for everything you don't want to use lay people though our guys don't like if in one case in city to play instruments to control the sound so don't make it in one Leo's diddly on one Leo's not it in one single one like this so if you would please here is the dog go and train all the young the children in a check eight years or they complete 80s 90s they can play especially if they if God has given them the here by the age of eight or nine they can place they can play the main church they can play they can hear they learn very fast children are faster than what we cannot be obtuse if we are proud Jonathan we can learn things but the children dick unless sort of things suck when they are had a crusade and afterwards a pastor who was part of the Crusades came and brought a list of people that we have to pay I can't wanna be Joe instrumentalist and the one that I found most preposterous most preposterous was the person who control the sound the sound controller volume high and low that guy also slim was on the laser we have to give him money I found a most preposterous tell somebody preposterous are you listening so let people is a very important group that are going to work and I see our pal a pastor I was a I was a medical student I was a pasta when I became a pastor I was a student I was in medical school fourth year fixed year final year exams I did everything I was a pasta and all the house of his hours a doctor work in the hospital I work a pediatric surgery general surgery also finish department then I was an internal medicine department I was dead to out I work at the module eight did everything and I was a up from the world I come a watchman I come to check I switch I go back to the world always after the draw I thought at my chest nobody will save me we even we didn't used to take offering sometimes because I was visited by the hospital you can prepare a lesson can do so many things let's Mexican fiesta I had a vacation in South Africa we are more than 1000 members he was a doctor working 80 kilometers away every day he struggled 160 kilometers to work and back and because of the church he comes back 80 kilometers 80 kilometers in 80 kilometers out because of better Elliot more than 1000 people come into the church on Sunday morning or the doctor so let people can do so many only that you see we don't believe that in a lighthouse there should be also good also some Silva also some would also serve as a kite have you seen God taking only one type I believe God praising only one type so many types of people are doing the weather God and if you limit assess from today there will be no only boat in the world you see how bad it is only goal everything is gold then you cannot do this check because we need a lot of goal to make this pillar we need s for this this is also important it is no effect as valuable as gold it has a value without ethical hop this boat is very small now ring and on hand along with we can up everything both then we can have much we can have much if everything is good I will listen to this the art of shepherding how many are good it becomes Good Shepherd Jesus that I am that good I am the booth I am the booth I am the booth yeah that means that you can be a bad Shepherd you can be a bad Shepherd but you have to learn I'm going to study what it means to be a shepherd and these are the super voice transform your pastoral ministry I see it not here this one this this is a book I will recommend very highly to you transform your pastoral ministry this was once that second most popular book that I ever wrote transform your pastoral ministry many many pastors love this particular book transform your pastoral ministry amen all right what is the third important thing for church growth I cannot hear you check group and what Preah get similes that is where the standing pointed how many pastors come pray for three hours one person said to me I cannot pray for more than 20 minutes for how long three hours on your own Wow [Laughter] rayma bobba bobba ten hours Alabama all night only you you alone and your God amen and what is the last point check good and what copying as you copy you are going to move faster how many want to move faster fast everything faster faster faster amen now let me turn it let me tell you why as I conclude white copying is very very important because you cannot understand everything if you check it in your phone you can never understand how it works you just have to let somebody show you pressure and pressure in this way so you copy what the pattern is showing you and then you see that it's going to wet so in check growth and many things in the ministry you cannot actually understand what is happening so that's why you have to copy because you know understand it easily it will take you too long before you ever understand what is going on so coffee when you see somebody who is very very as that inside and the best is always where black and the peasant looks nice you may not saga until as scientists tell you that when you wear black you look smaller I think we will not have time to get that scientific whatever by eleazar the fact is web has a lot about the web like you realize that you also looking slimmer that be you may not get a chance to understand why somebody British like this or why this happened before it was that scientific understanding it may never happen you may never know how we I don't know where we put on the remote like this how the television comes you can see President Obama from civil you have a rebel you understand this I don't you honest honest cathode ray tubes and other things and flat screen and how the digital the chips were I don't understand it it beyond you you have to develop under to disease and they keep having also commander solid it have to do it and the church is like it's like a computer chip you can understand just put it in and use it copy things that are being done and see yourself flying flying in the ministry so I have it a very strict flying in a ministry yes that is the key to flying instead of walking will fly you run you right up with wings like eagles and you do great things in the ministry stand to your feet everybody [Applause] let us pray father thank you for your blessing for today we thank you for your power your Holy Spirit lead us Lord just ask law for the Holy Spirit I've got for the anointing ask God for church growth God is going to do it God has done it God is going to do wonderful things

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Published: Thu Jun 08 2017