Heal Yourself with The Ice Shaman | Wim Hof & Russell Brand

my little kid is crazy about it yeah I do this things like that he loves it I'm gonna do more of this wim HOF thank you for coming on under the skin right on we gave it some skin at the river I've never you know so just so that the people listening are up to speed we just swam in the River Thames together it's not super cold certainly not for you for you that's who you probably barely notice but for me I felt my testicles plunge initially to sub-zero temperatures there would've been like a couple of zeros and then I felt them very very hot and powerful afterwards when we were in that wall up I said to you what do i do where should I put my attention and you said no where exactly this way it should be you know sometimes you just need to let go and the body is able to solve it all what we do is we are we're wearing clothes all the time we are distill ating the elements of nature on our body and we therefore think so much and it's like unstoppable and where are the sensations to the body it's not there yet we have three times the world's length of vascular channels inside of us and they are composed with millions of little muscles if they are not stimulated through the cold and heat and the elements of nature then it gets weaker and guess what what is killer number one we were what kills millions of people every year is cardiovascular related diseases how come get into the river James Bay swim and take it on with you you go out with your dog don't you it needs to pee and Mehran and this and that we are mammals we should get out with the dog and into the water because it really is a vascular fitness I workout we have insulated ourselves from nature from our own human nature and from our environment I think you know the difference between the human being as they could be and a human being as they are is the difference between a free bird in a forest and a battery hen whose energy is used entirely for industry for commodification for produce just in case whim anyone listen to this doesn't know much about you but I'm sure everyone does because you've been most popular guest we've had lots of lots and lots of requests for you you've you hold the world record for the farthest swim and the ice you reach the top of Mount Kilimanjaro within two days wearing only shorts and what interests me the thing that I really enjoyed the documentary about you I believe ice made where I saw you being injected under clinical conditions scientifically observed injected with bacteria and able through breath techniques to control your immune system and fight off this bacterial infection the the main oh the the silver I suppose the point of entry for understanding wim HOF is that through breath through consciousness you can control the body to a degree not imagined before perhaps except in yogic or Buddhist or deep deep Christian and Islamic traditions the mind can control the body to a degree we didn't anticipate and this has been scientifically proven through your work yes six years ago we had a comparative study to show that the autonomous autonomous is outside of our will it's no longer a outside of our will this autonomous nervous system related to the innate immune system specific immune system and endocrine system the hormonal system you know but if we feel bad it's because we have a lack of dopamine is a serotonin dopamine level within the brain salt is subtly too low and then you feel depressed can you do something about it no because it is autonomous I tell you right now we found a way to tap into the autonomic nervous system so at that time six years ago nobody believed really what I was doing they tested me but I'm the Iceman I can do special things he is the Iceman he's a brother of Batman and Superman and here's the Iceman curse I was running marathons beyond the Polar Circle in shorts at going up Mount Everest to the Death Zone in my shorts and a cone under the eyes and all those things many records I did many challenges and then the scientists began to see hey but what this man is doing is physiologically not possible according to our science and what has been written down but he's doing it and he is a human let's test him so they tested me they for 80 minutes they had me in ice they took my blood and then the blood they exposed it to endotoxin that's an e.coli bacteria which normally creates a very violent reaction on the immune cells even in the end blood serum with my blood zero reaction that means zero inflammation zero inflammatory markers within the blood what is disease it's inflammation inflammation is the cause and effect of disease now this guy is showing is zero reactions what is going on but he is the air Iceman he is an exception that confirms the rule so hey that's it and that's a he is a freak of nature tell you I'm not I'm one of the twins identical and my twin brother is not able to do what I do why because I jump into the River Thames I let my body out together with my dog I'm the mammal III get into nature and that made me into a deeper level of my physiology awakened to my mind but nobody knew about that so I said to these doctors what I can do anybody can do it's only training it's only awakening because it's already there everybody is innately capacitated to rule over his autonomic nervous system is the healing of the body is within your command I mean I don't see hospitals in rabbit world or the wolves or the elephants only it's not there and there are no hospitals there are no psychiatric asylums or anything there is no pharmacy they deal with that themselves cause every mammal is innately capacitated to heal himself to be in connection with the specific immune system we lost it because we were closed all the time we are D stimulated within our own physiology and it's not answering because there is no question the question the triggers are gone the body is not responding so all this vascular system which is composed with millions of little muscles they are very much connected to the cells and their reactions these cells are there and innately capacitated to respond to adapt to the situation and to keep equilibrium balance within at all so that there they came sorry but the doctors came and they said okay you say that everybody is able to do them they took on the challenge can you because if you are able to bring people into this control you have shown in a scientific experiment then we have scientific evidence that we are able as humans to go into the autonomic nervous system immune system in the deepest and the endocrine system that means we change the perspective of what humans are capable of against disease both physical and mentally not little bit big time but before that how much time do they need to train with you a one-year one happy I said ten days it became four days in four days I brought him to the top or without former experience in the cold engine shorts to the top of a mountain in Poland and it's funny almost because we went up the slope it was minus 10 and one 1/2 hours we had to go to the rich which is the border of Czechia and Poland and there these ninja dressed like military people with guns they came over the ridge and they saw a group of people in their shorts coming up and it was minus 13 degrees Celsius already so I told these guys in the beginning to change their mindset hey guys you are the new gladiators you are going to win the greatest war ever of the May most of misery and agony that one of the bacteria and the virus four days later they were under on the flanks on the under on the shore of the of the mountain to the rich -13 we came across these people that was funny we made selfies in the end but then we went on to the top and at the top it was minus 27 there we danced the Harlem shake all in shorts minus 27 and I knew they are there where mother nature meant her to be four days later they were in the hospital and they showed after sixteen thousand hundred and thirty four test subjects been experimented on with the same a coli bacteria all becoming sick like fever headaches not nice time it's a controlled experiment but they haven't got a nice step and they get some you know 400 euros all of them so yeah for that they do it and so sixteen thousand one hundred and thirty four people were being tested and they all became sick and now suddenly twelve people were very able 100% school to control the bacteria being injected within a quarter of our we changed signs we changed the perspective of science the autonomic nervous system endocrine system and the immune system are no longer not accessible very deeply accessible so what this experience demonstrates is that to the immune system and the various anatomical systems that you have described the experience of extreme cold and the experience of an invading bacteria or an invading virus is seen as the same thing something that can be repelled and controlled or write simply stress and you not far from being an anomaly as the Iceman the the beautiful Monika that you have taken on been given you are able to teach these techniques to anybody so there are two things excuse me that I'd really like to know one is how did you I did my burp over there I turned away from the mic you immediately it's one second later I did a burp down the mic what kind of mind games that wim it's a good game it's coming together sharing tribal we're in a sealed space we're burping ourselves to the next dimension a burp away so women like there's two things that I want to know one what are the techniques that can activate these systems that teach the body to deal with stress in a different way whether it's climbing up a mountain in a pair of shorts and making friends with Border Patrol guard ninjas or repelling ecoli injected into the bloodstream what is it that you activate and how do you do it yeah it's actually very simple and we got it on our website is very for free it's an app you take it down and you learn the basics very much endorsed by some millions of data of scientific technique by it's a breathing technique well you know what what do you do when you go into the cold the first thing god you breathe deep how difficult is that that's it's what we do not do anymore because we wear clothes we are D stimulated you seem less a man whose only motivation in life is to get everyone naked which used to be how I live I love that I love that there's over exaggeration of clothes and you know high-heeled kind of nice but the thing is so we've become desensitized because we live in like this bit and this is a very simple breath technique that you can teach everyone how did you discover that you could do this yeah years of looking there is more than meets the eye and I became a sort of debater philosopher looking into esoteric disciplines and and all the yoga and the kung-fu and their Japanese and the Sanskrit and all those things that's what you you were interested in this stuff for years yes I was I was because of curiosity yes yes curiosity is the best drive it defined the seeker becomes the finder in the end but for that you need an inquisitive nature and that is a part of the conditioned ways we have we are schooled in and yeah and getting conditioned because you describe but this stuff you use very scientific language necessarily because I think if you're talking about something as profound as being able to repel disease or withstand extreme temperatures people don't want to think of it as something yogic or woowoo they want to think of it as something scientific something pragmatic and practical you always had the curiosity you said about kung fu about yoga about various techniques that are about I suppose mind over matter when did you what was it that what was your breakthrough that when he realized he could control morning or Sunday morning it was I was pondering in the park there was the water nobody was around because it's Sunday morning and there was a thin layer of ice on the water and just felt attracted I went into the water and yeah I got an answer from inside it said yes it felt so good and I felt the power while I was into the ice water I could stay and I see in front of me right now like I was wondering why I didn't feel any pain and I could play with a thin layer of ice like very subtle and that was this wandering and then I went out I felt a rush it felt great ok so the other day I came back and dude the same and I felt the same and I felt so good and when you feel good about something you always come back so that's what I did I became conscious of my breathing it was deeper it was different and when I was going more profound into my body through their breathing I could do like 25 don't do this at home because I did it gradually huh it was very dangerous if you do this directly but I was able to do in 25 deep breaths while being immersed in the cold ice-cold water I became so charged the carbon dioxide out oxygen in different processes start up in the inside of the body became not only impervious to the cold the last breath after the 25 always after 25 Julian old go ahead five to seven minutes under the water and like every day very controlled very still in the mind the only thing you could hear down there in the fetus position I was what very still fetus what that is and then the last half minute is always promoted by having a pee the kidneys yeah it's like dying or something something like adrenaline comes because there's a lack of the right chemistry in the body and that it's a inaugurate the moment of going out slowly but surely this is what I did every day and it brought my body's power to my attention and then I saw oh this breathing then I began to separate the breathing of the cold and I did that at home we started to do these breathing techniques of these deep breaths that you can hold in you start to do it away from the water yes what were you exploring then you know intention or just you're just curious just curiosity and feeling good about it and I saw all the chakras what do you mean you saw them yeah you know lights yes I saw them all you saw them oh yes oh yes oh no problem it's all there it's electricity and once you are able to manipulate the nervous system dramatically you are able to activate it activates boom boom boom boom and they become visual it's nothing esoteric about that is there can you describe to me what use when you say you saw the chakras what we swear we've seeing them you were closing your eyes yeah you close your eyes you see adult is a very beautiful penetrating yet very soft to light and it's beautiful its three-dimensional and you transform inside the body becomes electric you feel it you feel it and it's amazing it's amazing but him like anything else at a certain moment after years we get bored with it you get bored I got bored like hey there is more I got into these techniques and I saw it all and I could yeah the the noise in the brain it Changez three times and you get there Towson belt that's sahasrara as we know in yoga yeah yes I say here mooladhara swadisthana manipuraka an errata visshuddhi akhiya sahasrara brahmarandhra samadhi and then you got these layers of this Samadhi we're describing the tattoos that are on my arm of the chakras and you're saying that through deep meditative techniques achieved through controlled breathing you can physically experience these archetypal and essential energies which a lot of people that use the scientific type of language that you use would disregard as nonsense but I'm very curious as to how you for your own personal mission for your own personal yogic journey have discovered information that has been written about has been spoken of before that when they we talk of the Yogi's and the Rishi's in Vedic literature going into states of consciousness and coming back with new information about how to control the body's energy systems it seems to me that you are doing this again now that the you know the point the point of the spiritual life is to feel good now many of us in contemporary social systems do not feel good because we are disconnected and we have allowed our personal being to become controlled by systems that do not have our best interests at heart that simply want us to be units of commodified energy that are not free so the first these techniques first of all gave you access to of information that's you know you said not an esoteric way but in a very real practical way do you now believe from you know from what's been demonstrated through your own personal ability to withstand extreme temperatures your own personal ability to withstand the introduction of viruses into your body and then your ability to teach others that this will become more specific more thorough for example do you think it'd be possible for people with depression to control the amount of dopamine or serotonin that's in their systems through different techniques oh yes absolutely the last very very nice to mention you and to show you and you got all the chakras over there yes they are all over there and with that the elements you know / TV Jalla teacher's Raju anta Khurana elements well / TV the earth Jala water Aki the the fire and then Raju the air and then you get anta karana the thinking brain so all that I know I know all the Sanskrit all about it and you know that you did this stuff no no after after and like parallel about that I thought it was so awkwardly written and so inaccessible and what is it what is it not I don't know there was still a lot of confusion until I got into the cold water and there I found a connection and then I found the connection that the breath was able to make me more powerful using the cold as a stressor to learn to equalize the power I could stay for longer and long at a certain moment I could stay all the night out in shorts in freezing temperatures and feel good that is the power of breath breath is the life force only you have to connect it with your consciousness with your awareness you will you will it's like a baby a little baby slags there's nothing wrong with it but still not able to walk it needs neurological connection so we need neurological connection with the breath in order to elevate this consciousness this awareness perception nowadays or a perception we got not 5 senses we got eight senses they through all kinds of devices they have seen different neurological networks I mean visual cortex is a neurological network hmm but the Sixth Sense is also a neurological network the seventh sense also and while the objects and of these senses the objects of the six answers the accessibility of the will to be able to go in any place of the brain that is going into the subconscious and the consciousness is the sixth sense it gives you absolute confidence to go your part whatever is your part doesn't matter if here you are able at a certain moment from going from time-space ego into the or all the parts of the brain which is the subconscious and consciousness when it's necessary and brain knows and the subconscious knows then leaves you alone you are without stress you are a very confident man or woman human number seven number seven the proprioception neurological network that connects the will with the air specific immune system in the deepest with that we are able to get rid of disease in any way or to heal therefrom or prevent but we need to find as a connection we have shown this and six years ago with a group of people to be able within a quarter of our to tap into the proprioception they into this network at will and the bacteria had no chance after sixteen thousand hundred and thirty-four people why would i testing it before they test it so deeply before with sixteen thousand people what were they trying to demonstrate they're trying to find a way to battle inflammation and what were they using that pharmaceuticals or know they were you our they of course they pharmaceuticals they have done a lot of studies to make money so so and then it comes a natural way which is only by accident because there's no money behind so what happens when you under clinical conditions demonstrate the power of the mind to repel disease to confront stress what happens to the people that have supported these studies did I say oh this is brilliant now what we can do is we can shut down Pfizer and Glaxo industries and we can all manufacture the necessary medicines within our bodies or that is the thing I think the signs now it's quite sort of not corrupted but so linked with money and research money for research and we all need to make money and also doctors at Hydra that they do not truly are necessarily into a finding a ways of healing the people in natural ways but making money yes so a and that is the establishment people need to bring bread on the table as they say in the Netherlands we say that Ingrid on the table right table exactly that's money other things are not really interesting how do you get your money since there's just a little side street because I want to talk about the number 8 neurological network that is the interior reception which lately I showed brain scans having controlled top down by the will over the body that is a step beyond disease is what is happening in nature and you have control over what is what what the stressor is doing on your body and that could be called heat emotion anything and there was it was not known that we have a top-down possible control so from the will into the body into a reception we get into that meaning that you can with your own will decide right now I am going to not experience this heat or I'm not going to experience this cold or I'm not going to experience this violence you yeah yes sort of or make the deepest part of the brain at work at will enabling this deepest part of the brain the endocannabinoid system and opioids the periaqueductal gray hemisphere it's a part of the brainstem if that is going to work then it deals with whatever stress is coming to your body from the inside out do you use this in a practical daily way say for example you feel afraid or intimidated or under some kind of threat have you got examples of doing that in your own life yeah I deal with stress in many ways like everybody so I'm a family father of six and I got a dog and two chickens and and fish and three turtles and so when these said they need maintenance when those sometimes stressed about a right time to bring in the system yes it was it was only when these professors came to me a psychiatrist professors and they told me asked me if I was willing to be subdued in an experiment in a model they developed and this model was to bring stress onto the body cold into a vest when was this two years ago two years ago two years ago in February this in Germany or Michigan Michigan Detroit and Wayne State University School of Medicine there they put me into a brain scan in innum brain scan you are not able to move and like an MRI is MRI yes fMRI and brain scan fMRI is more the body and brain scan is the brain so they put me into both a couple of times and they had 74 people before that one a half year was a study already ongoing 74 people had been tested with the perfusion vest which is a vest firefighters use underneath their equipment to keep cool so it has to be inside with cold water they pumped cold water into the perfusion first and then it goes back and because the body wants to get warm or something they cool it down and keep her on cooling so what normally is shown is that the people with their 74 people all showed that the skin temperature was going down when it was called warm when go up cool whoa cool whoa those are the graphics then they looked inside the brain and that what is dealing with the stress is the prefrontal cortex was very activated in in their cases and it insula for example when you do deep meditation for a long time then the insula gets this phoric state activation so then you lose prefrontal cortex is going lower it's like blue color when you forea is there because then the insula is working it gets up and in all the cases this was very activated and this was very low like rat and this was blue and there was no other activation in the brain this was dealing with the direct stress coming in this is what they saw in the brain then they took me and when I did nothing the same graphics they saw the same graphics the prefrontal cortex very activated and the insula very little activated like everybody else so and then they asked day three whim now today you have to do what the Iceman is doing your meditation I don't know what I'm doing I just do it it's like in the water what do you think of yeah don't think baby just be you know I just do it and I all these moments on Mount Everest and the Kilimanjaro in the marathons under the losing my way under the eyes hanging by one finger in midwinter between hot air balloons extremes they stayed for two hours in eyes and all feeling fine it was high I got a doodad what I always did but now it's not nature around me it's a brain scan but I knew what to do I had to comfort it I had click oh yeah that's it so I went they put me in the brain scan and they pumped the cold water in but my skin temperature did not go down anymore and like eight times and coming and going like cold warm cold walk had no effect I was one degree up and I stayed over there called a warp impervious and not moving no contraction of muscles no deep breathing because she cannot do that you see a blurred images on the monitor so I was not allowed to do anything just by thought and then they looked inside the brain they saw very little activation of the prefrontal cortex like blue no activation very red like in insula very high up like I was in a forea I was warm the water was warm where it had never been called to Marilla tomb to me and and then they saw something they never had seen before and that was the activation of the periaqueductal gray hemisphere which is the deepest part of the brainstem the crocodile mind the reptilian brain we have no control over why because we never go like cold warm no we are into this D stimulative behavior and all the people they lose the connections because it's not necessary to there is no need for the periaqueductal now the periaqueductal grey hemisphere is the residence of our opioids and endocannabinoids the cannabinoids before eeeh nice feeling like huh she's like a nice wheat pot or whatever is called you feel Wow yes they're great they are activated at that moment within our system but we got we got this t-shirt it says get high high on your own supply it's there it's there for us all so they saw me activating that robustly and then they said we found two key components of the autonomous processes in the brain thought of inaccessible by humans now accessible for our conscious brain related to mood regulation and mood regulation mood is anything is emotion could be through cold stress heat stress emotional stress daily stress all those things and then they said this is a transformational technique that will change mental health care but how long will it take that it gets to the people who need it my assumption is that because you have spent all that time practicing there with the you know clearer and more physical conditions of exposure to cold you have learned how to activate you've said the insular aspect of your brain he's not consciousness in this case it's your brain it's a physical measurable thing so that when you are required to access it you can I felt that so that's you have a form of practice fascinating that you could access that crocodile mind it makes me feel that perhaps the way that our brains have evolved is in you know I'm obviously any kind of evolution is by its nature incremental but it seems that what must have happened with human beings is that part of the mind this crocodile mind where the opioids you said were my ears pricked up at that point women let me tell you where the opioid receptors are stored this part of the mind must not because it's formulated so so far as separated by such distance of time from the conscious mind that most of us occupy the relationship between these two parts of the brain is not being correctly formulated and but because we live in these lives where we are encouraged to live on one particular frequency we don't know how to travel between these parts of consciousness now when I think of the mystical role of the Shaymin the shaman is the member of the tribe that can travel between levels levels of consciousness the shaman is the member of the tribe that knows how to access the crocodile mind the insula knows how to go between these levels and how do we see shame and represented in tribal cultures as different totemic animals they know how to access different parts of the animal mind I like this so for for me these practices that you are developing is a kind of a new shamanism a new way of accessing different parts of the brain you know they obviously the relationship between the conscious and consciousness and the brain is a strong one but it suggests to me that there is a relationship between consciousness and the body if you know the skin temperature wasn't altering so it feels to me that you know when if you were to try to if you were which obviously is your mission to popularize these techniques so as many people as possible have access to them it seems likely that before we could get to the point where we are able to regulate and control our own dopamine that we would have to go on a process of learning these more basic forms of control would that be correct yes I always say make it simple a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away hmm that's it having cold showers yeah take a warm one later but first a quart one you know what happens when you first take a quart one I need to go into distress yeah no you activate your conscious brain into the brain stone I had my my personal experience of what you were describing and what you have mastered was one time I jumped into a very cold pond in someone's garden just experience it and like you say I gasped and stuff and once I was in the water I was thinking Michael my body is designed to be able to cope this and I'm never letting my body experience so I'm living in just one room in the mansion I'm not exploring the other rooms in the mansion I'm not opening the doors I'm not looking exactly exactly you know what happens is because we think so much on this one level way of using our brain that's the neocortex it gets 25% more blood flow the rest is getting 24 25% less it's not it's like surviving it's not blooming it's not able to be connected with because the right biochemistry is not there so in case when people get out of balance there is a like a dopamine serotonin which is inside our brain cells and when that happens we don't know how to bring the blood flow over there you go into cold showers it's not about toughness no it's about bringing the blood flow right in the brainstem and with that it passes the mid brain which is the mammalian brain which is the feeling and that feeling suddenly gets the right biochemistry and then you are able with your will which is a neurological muscle to of course you like to a bring balance to the biochemistry and accordingly the the dopamine and serotonin which is a natural thing to be but we denaturalized by bringing 25% more over there on a regular basis and we we survive we go win us but when the problem when this [ __ ] hits the fan we don't know how to get in there and and bring balance so if you go into the cold shower and deal with the cold and or do these breathing techniques then you go into the deepest and with that it activates the right biochemistry and it needs to pass the midbrain which you'd get no 20% you get 100% of the brain activation and we have shown that in the late a lot of study with Hanover in the one of the two best brain scans of the world they saw it was disco in like doing these breathing techniques they said German sir say it's disco now you know Germans dancing and a little bit like wood but it was disco he said 100 percent of the brain was working that is biochemistry and that is what we're where we miss out on through our D stimulative comfort zone behaviorism so through these techniques we're not just talking about the mind we're talking about the brain aspects of the brain parts of the brain are light enough that are not normally lighting up yes through doing this we're accessing of course the brains caballo chemistry we're getting access to healing and a totally different perspective on the world what have these healing I'm feeling yes yes healing and feeling I love that little phrase I'm gonna write it on my pad but what how is it what do you think is the impact on your intellect you know I spoke one to a man called Ed Stafford he's a sort of a survivalist he used to be in their Marines or SAS you know it's a hard guy and like he became he likes to survive in extreme environments and he once spent six months alone on an island before he went he spoke to these Aboriginal men and he said they he said the main thing they taught him was he said he said we in our culture we believe we have free brains the brain of the belly this is the main brain the brain of the heart this is the second brain the brain of the head he said that your culture the West the people of Europe the people of North America that you guys live in he said for that we have the same word that we use for a tangled fish in there for us this part of the brain is just for problem-solving don't live in there all the time and like you're saying about that 25% of the blood flow is in there you know it's live it's live you know we're light in that part of the brain up so much of this much of these techniques what it's helping you to do it's not like it's not a cerebral and intellectual thing it's like because I were wondering when we were hanging out for example when there was at work we went down to the river near where I live there was a man there in a canoe now I'm English so I see this man in the canoe no this man's there in a canoe he's gonna see me in wim hof get into the water in our pants right and there sure enough he's hairy in his sandwich and women hello good day to you you know with you and staff and like the man leaves you do you have any time for thinking about social anxiety what other people think of you whether I know so when we met the farmer Oliver anybody well goodbye Oliver do you think about like these kind of things are they on your mind or view lit-up aspects of your brain mind consciousness to such an extent the social anxiety what other people think of you don't really register exactly you know you're talking gut yeah the microbiome which we just showed that we found a relationship between microbiome and and the brain which is also the course in effect of say depression this is happening in the gut in the gut yes it's a microbiome deregulated through inflammation getting through the blood-brain barrier but that's a little aspect it's interesting because many of these things that the spiritual community takes for like believes is true and the say scientific or atheistic community say no this is not true they these things are true and can be proven by science but there typically is no appetite to demonstrate that they're true one of my frustrations are like you know I respect and love and I'm grateful that you speak primarily in scientific terms because science is obviously a massive part of the answer but when people present scientific findings as neutral I say well it's not entirely neutral because look at what the focus of science is Sciences objectives are capitalist objection objectives own ideas that are taking place are the studies that are funded by organizations that ultimately want to commodify and commercialize their findings people aren't studying ie looks like people can cure cancer by thinking and breathing differently no one's paying for that study Chiron once that's happened so that is not neutral yeah it is and yeah you know and it's almost mammalian logic the people who are selling medicines and pills they don't want to lose their clients no to go back to that thing you don't get embarrassed in front of the farmer then what did you feel what's in your mind when we see the farmer and when we see the canoeist you just what are you sitting oh yeah yeah just a it's a bloody great day you're not neurotic you are not a neurotic man you warm enough in age want me to turn the temperature up you okay do you want a blanket mother nature takes care of me ah yes yeah you know a there is three times more neural activity coming from our heart to our brain than vice-versa but we keep on thinking in the Western world and dominating our feelings we close it up we take 25% more blood flow in the neocortex all the time we don't know how to sleep or we I get anxious you sleep well I sleep like a rock every last night I was up 3:00 3:30 no three o'clock for one hour and a son I am there why don't you back up for now what you do meditate yeah you sit up I know you stay laying down yeah contemplate and do conscious breathing do you ever have problem getting an erection no it's an erection is an automatic process no like her typically they're like because I know that because in that no inhibitions they're absolutely not and a professor with whom I work he tells doing these breathing techniques and going into the cult this way that makes the expression of the genomes in the DNA or responsible for virility really turned on so this could be a killer for the viagra business any time you know not only if you do this breathing as I yeah mentioned a little about it you do this breathing then when you have been intimate with you or a woman which is a nice way to say it intimate it could be anything a cup of tea is being intimate yes yes you've been very intimate with that one yes and so there are different ways of being intimate with your woman and when you have done you know and exhaust it like oh you do 20 minutes of breathing you go again full-on it's amazing just for that this podcasts are already successful everybody is gonna love it not like love it because we love that so not only does Dutch person in history it's like everything that British people think of Dutch people the kind of sort of permissive nurse the extreme nurse the sexuality you've taken it to the absolute pinnacle will teach me some breathing right now show me some so I can demonstrate it alright you got a clock here so get me at a timer on you got it right I want you to go within two rounds up to two and a half minutes without air in your lungs no I can't do that I can't this yeah yeah only die and but then reincarnate come back as a guy with this haircut well no that's two minutes you have to just press Start okay so tell me what to do let's do just one round and about two minutes without breathing you will stay and without air in your lungs okay and the consequences of that all that is is a is a chain reaction within the body into the deepest part of the brain and the activation of the adrenal axis of getting into the brainstem and activate also the opioids and endocannabinoid system which is responsible for activating the immune system you reset your body to its primordial state that is what we are going to do but don't mind about it just do it Jennie will you do the time inside women doesn't have to worry about timing yes yeah come but we see this keep this is the podcast it's not doing anything that we this not lose any context this is lovely okay so I'm ready to start now so Jenny just don't let it go off so okay so you're gonna teach me this technique it's on two minutes oh and you can get it to two minutes to a second so and normally we do this like four rounds in the morning it takes about 20 minutes so now we do one round about five minutes is gonna take okay these are being anybody is able to do this along on a sofa or sitting safely like you are sitting now and orbit don't do this in water don't they do is behind a wheels will have a car because you really get into pasture conditioning past your consciousness you can go and there is nothing going on it's great what is going to happen your body becomes very alkaline which is just newly being proven in a scientific research be going to be published very soon now is a lot related to this how simple it is how many complications will go away if you only do this let's go right Fuli in for a mouth huh yeah the mouth nose doesn't matter whatever you feel I do like this okay with your mind follow your breath go on go on fill up your belly your chest everything you got boolean letting go Fuli letting go we will do 30 30 breaths we almost got tap early and letting go relax fool ya don't you let you fool in letting go so all right fool yet letting go here is the meditation is the going deep even people meditating for years are not able to go as deep as we will go now and go go with the flow like the sea waves getting to the shore then letting go and there it comes again Huli a letting go 17 boolean let it go wholly letting go earlier letting go you feel light in your head losing your body tingling it's all alright breathe into it breathe into it intensified whatever you feel is different we are charging off the body we want to go into the depth we are charging up the body yes 23 7 more fully and let it go oh yeah letting go earlier for fool ya three oh yeah - earlier one here comes the last one pull ahead let him go and stop after the exhalation just witness feel the feeling the rush it's your blood then you nervous system charges there is no need for breathing whatsoever it's no hypnotizing just a magic of the physiology at work now we are your body your nervous system is getting into the brainstem slowly and surely oxygen levels begin to decrease rapidly does the brain stem is beginning to answer hey there is no oxygen but you are alkaline you chemistry is right so there is no need for breathing but the crocodile doesn't understand he says I have to survive adrenaline shoots out you get a reset to your primordial state wherein the immune system suddenly is within the reach of the will and it's happening all what is not necessary in the body the wrong cells cancer cells half cells it is being expelled because you need to be in function a danger is happening the body goes into this autonomic nervous system state of being to be the best of yourself and you are doing it all consciously you are at ease this is the way we get into the deepest and take over control in the neurological pathways right over there blood flow is going into the depth into all the parts of the brain any brain scan is able to tell that so there it is okay breathe in at breathe in and hold and squeeze to your head ten seconds ten nine eight seven six five four three two one let it go that is one round now this is what these people did in the hospital and then the bacteria had no chance how simple it is and when we are dealing with inflammation causing depression in the end we take away the inflammation with doing this within a quarter of our and people feel real revived of the depression and depressed state so it's a it's a cure for anything because we are built to be able to prevent and heal from disease both physical and mentally and this is the way and possibly as you said in the beginning and I've been entering into this different yogic states and getting knowledge from the ether or wherever it is because this is the what they want to bring into the world and it can be experimented and tested meticulously through scientific scrutiny and comparative research that it is simple to enter background with our contemporary mind into the depth of our beings of our brain our mind our spirit our soul anything is over there within exercise your comment tree was right on it I felt like that is the part the part where you feel like oh I've got brief I've got brief like there's a moment where something powerful impulse fear and so fear is adrenaline I suppose what we mentally label is fear that must be us ready to campus the deepest part of the brain part of it is hippocampus there's a storage of fear trauma and all those things they are being you learn to control them within 10 minutes we did one route yeah second round you would have gone two and a half minutes without air interlocks you get even deeper more blood flow gets there and you will your new role logical pathways they chop it yeah yeah this is fantastic well I notice about the state afterwards I'm a person that has quite a lot of you know my narrative izing mind is very active I think a lot I think a lot of words you know I think maybe also the elevation of intellect hmm you become sharper when I implied yes yes in that state though the eye there was some cessation like afterwards there was a like for me it was a slower you know like I feel now I thought suspend matric rate peace slow yeah yeah and seeing it speed of light yes because we are light the nervous system electricity is electricity system and we go within that system and activate it into the deepest thus it cleanses us everything that we categorize we categorize everything according to our animal experience time itself the way we see time is categorized because our understanding of the cycles of the Sun and the cycles of the earth and the cycles of the season but time itself there's no objective actual quality and it seems that through accessing different parts of the consciousness we can change the way we relate to time we can change the way we relate to disease we can change the way we donate to one another that mostly what civilization or show once said civilization is a clearing in the forest you know all of our systems all of our cities all of our laws all of our beliefs just a dent in nature and if you alter this itself at the level of the individual let alone their level of tribes and cultures and systems then we can formulate different laws different relationships when I see that the political debate takes place within very narrow parameters we should regulate this we should fund this we shouldn't do that for me this feels like a very small conversation Breck sit down brexit Trump don't Trump for me it's like this is a tiny molecule of the conversation and what we need to access is a transcendent different realm about the way we organize our cultures more truthfully in alignment with who we are as individuals and who we are a society if it's possible to find different ways of sharing resources let's use those if it's possible to find different ways of healing our bodies let's use them it's actually a very practical system that I would advocate for rather than continually advocating for systems that retain power in a very narrow bandwidth of our social systems almost anything you look at as a problem in the world today whether it's ecological meltdown medical meltdown bad food being proliferated it's because for someone it's not a problem for some it's beneficial ecological meltdown not a problem for Halliburton food that was a good diet of American or Anglo phonic world not a problem for the industries that control it the level of heart disease cancer not a problem for the people that produce the drugs we can no longer trust this system we have to learn to transcend the way we are schooled and the way we are able to use our brain which is 20% before it wasn't not too much the matter because the industrialization and all was not at that big scale that refined and control to make money and to control our minds of how to make more and to make more money so that is only the last 200 years or something and now it's really embedded in psychological control of two people I say okay I don't mind what you guys all do yeah you want to make money I understand but I want to have 100% control over my mind no because I don't trust you guys anymore so I found a way to tap into the brain and to find a way to go past this conditioned mind and there suddenly I find there are ways to heal myself there are ways to pass it on to anybody else there are ways to deal with depression and mental disorders there are ways to get more energy out of myself I own my own mind and I'm showing this to others to a own your own mind it's possible we got millions of data that we are so conditioned through hundreds and years of stealth and being brainwashed in certain ways that is serving a system our schooling is serving a system wherein we get careers and all that it's not necessarily serving happiness strength and health so it was the Dave Asprey in his podcast he asked me women well I never asked this question what do you think of enlightenment and a please put it in one sentence all Bibles and grants written on that [ __ ] so IIIi can wind up I got it just be happy strong and healthy and the rest is [ __ ] so that [ __ ] that the way we are defending and carrying we are not light but dark we are not lied not heavy that [ __ ] needs to go and ask yourself every morning are you happy strong and healthy are you going for your dream fishing are you going for your state of your your subconscious are you learning how to make full usage of your own mind so the Spirit is able to grow and your soul is able to shine like the Sun and it's there because the rest is [ __ ] if you don't I think most people don't believe that it is possible to be happy I think most people don't believe it I think most people think this is life I mean if you think about some of the philosophical ideas that govern the cultures that we are from you know life is suffering you have to work hard you know that these kind of like people don't most people I talk to don't think oh it's possible to live a blissful life free from tyranny I got I got it this morning how to talk with my son about this haenam your son who is here with us who's managing this situation arrogantly responding to your constant demands for photographs yeah yeah yeah a lot more yeah what did you say autistic Lee is doing everything around me yeah I was not into anything I had to pay the taxes and I'm not into paper so I had a guild with the Texas and and then he came along he built it I built this format of this website and all into it but this morning we had a discussion and this discourse I mean you cannot say that everybody won't want to be happiness because there is no light without the dark you gotta experience some [ __ ] sharing moments to appreciate the feelings which are so uplifting and elevating and nice and great I said absolutely I do agree because yes I do I do there occurs what what I say is we found the compelling evidence of the key components of the autonomous processes inside the brain related to mood regulation and that mood regulation emotion is I found ways to regulate that at will consciously for those in need and for an who are the ones who need it people who are depressed or having bipolar issues or psychosis schizophrenia anxiety fear PTSD trauma all those things the real terrorists of our mind we are able to regulate guys it's there we found the ways to tap into the brain and take over the control when is necessary for the rest the life let it be very very colorful beautiful message let me make sure that I've asked you everything that I need to it's been amazing and hanging out with you but I would like to understand before we go let me understand before we go like can you connect with the person that you were before you had access to this information can you remember living a life where you didn't have this zeal where you didn't have this certainty can you remember feeling like oh god I'm depressed today or oh yeah America I mean I came from these valleys depression and all I know doest want I lost my wife in 95 she jumped from an eight-story down Jesus Christ I mean and he is my oldest son Dana miss the oldest son he was a it was 11 at at a time and the youngest was like 7 years younger this is mentionable pain you've lost your life they left their brokenhearted and you know what she was she had schizophrenia yeah as they called it and they put all kinds of injections into her and anti-depressive and she only got worse so that is my burden that is my start of my journey deeply within to seek solace to seek solutions I wasn't aware of that I was only brokenhearted and having little money and have four kids to bring them up by myself and no wife around me I mean the love of my life beautiful lady very lusty in life and beautiful she was beautiful look and look at him as they answer polygon sim young man I've got three more men and I got two daughters and two sons and they are all very handsome and pretty and this and that she was very pretty and very alive but then this terrorist in the mind and then a regular healthcare with all their knowledge all the doctors ships and professorships and whatever they got in knowledge just got worse and she jumped she gave it a kiss to to their little babies before she went she was very conscious of what was it was a real terrorist a real terror and that terror now we are able to tackle I found as a drop out of school in my in my journey since then finding and looking into nature the cult brought me stillness in in my mind the breathing brought stillness like control over the emotion and then I came a guy I did many records and then the scientific world came to me and they began to experiment and now I have come in connection with the psychiatrists in the world and the best top researchers on the DNA the best ones as a drop out of school and I'm showing them how to go and tap into the deepest part of the brain and to learn to re-regulate anything that deals with our mood which means depression psychosis bipolar schizophrenia trauma fear anxiety yes so anything of those we are able to tackle this is my message it comes from a broken heart and now it is full circle we got the knowledge it came from nature and nature has the answers whereas the books are failing and the system is failing and we got this message now for you and this is my podcast with you you go also very fast about past all apathy perceived limits and the conditioned mind within this system you are a true seeker and thus we find true findings and this is woman hmm this is good stuff thank swim-off thank you what about how did you mayor say I feel that we have established that you have discovered something that is very powerful I feel that we established that this is something that can be conveyed to other people that it's not just an anomaly a quirk it's something that we can all learn and we can perhaps think about how to make this information accessible and simple and useful to a number of people with all sorts of different abilities and all sorts of different challenges it's interesting for me to think about the moment of Inception being one of loss and pain and the sort of ordinary tragedy of losing somebody to suicide and manic depression or schizophrenia schizophrenia how then prior to these techniques did you survive as a father how did you deal with grieving children how do you deal with that how did you deal with that what was the process with the grieving children I was just being with them are we but the children make me survive nature healed me hmm that it is you can't think you got a B I remember every weekend after the a during the night they came to my bed and we slept all the five together like a nest and very it closes it's naturally that it closes that it becomes a nest again a place of safety and without thinking you just do it you are simply there for them 100% and the loss later I began to work on my broken heart but there was no time of dealing with the broken heart or the feeling because the four children are very demanding but beautifully or also because they don't let you think too much about your sorrows and your grief Oh so it seems that for me that you instinctively use thought as most people understand it merely as a means to communicate and articulate deeper experiences even when we were in the river and I was in the river I was cold you know I'm telling you right okay I'm cold too now you're saying like I was expecting you gonna say right breathe in through the right nostril block the left nostril now exhale through the mouth now hold pull the mula bandha tight and Arianna bandha I was thinking how it's gonna be like in a very prescriptive but you said is there no just be in the cold be in the cold and there's your body do what her body is able to do and like in this moment I recognized that you know like as I sit you also Washlet do where shall I put the attention don't put it nowhere nowhere don't put the attention nowhere other things I remember from this brief experience when we were doing there is that Tai Chi we were doing on the show what we now know it just came up with dirty once I had no toilet and I had to do my poopy so I had to stand in this awkward position they call it a horse stance the Sheena bandha boomba posture asanas whatever the thing is I lately did it for three hours a barefoot in the snow and you know what in three days I do it with anybody in the snow barefoot standing in that awkward horse stance which activates the adrenal axis so when did you know that it actuates the but where when you go into the culture you learn it's interesting mythically like in mythology the acknowledgement that to discover the truth of who you are you need to go into the belly of the beast you need to go under the ocean you need to go into the darkness into the pain that's where you will discover the true gift of the self if you never go below the surface if you never go under the skin then you will never discover truth of who you are you will only vibrate on the higher frequencies so for you the cold has become your teacher you have become the the yogi of the cold from the cold you have discovered deep truths now um yeah they are living when you friend the stick for my dog bear and you say raus raus which I guess is a Dutch word for lost let it go let it go let me throw the stick on the dog listen I got a speaks Dutch yeah so it's um for me it seems what one of the things that I am understanding is that underneath the physical and material reality there is a truer realm which we can access through techniques and if we access it we can change ourselves if we never try to access it and the first point of not accessing it is to not believe it's there if you look there is no ulterior realm there's only this there's only what can be measured there is only in the material world that means you are never going to investigate you are never going to have what you described as the most important ingredient the curiosity the curiosity that yes maybe it's possible another ingredient the faith and the optimism that I think it is possible to be happy I think it is possible to be strong when you have these beliefs then you can investigate with faith the possibility to become a different person which you must have needed a lot of when confronted with the loss of your children's mother you have to need it faith hope curiosity and then you can fall into nature because what I felt at that moment in that in that River was oh what I'm I'm not gonna because I have a facility for thought for fast thinking but they often there are situations you cannot think your way out of there you just have to be you just have to be and let go and be in the cold water and then other energies that are not at the frequency of fast frenetic cerebral activity are able to be accessed yes I mean they will after this and if you go regularly into the the cold shower a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away you will even become better at it do you think I will win mm yeah I'm doubting now no man I think that's a really fantastic podcast oh well I've really enjoyed the experience of getting in the war of playing with the dog of hanging out in our pants doing what I fought was Tai Chi but it's actually something you were making up on the side of a river just two guys standing in pants yet moving about I hope people will enjoy the video footage we'll have to we'll have to release that I'm very interested in your continuing exploration of these techniques and I would like to help you in popularizing them and communicating them in a way that that is great I think you a great man and bringing complicated matters to the people and with that the awareness and with that physical awareness and physical ability to deal with things like emotions and and faith let's have faith back again that we are able to regulate our own happiness strength and health it's all about that guys and it's them we got all the evidence and we are in popular rising together with this man and with this man and we are just two blokes bringing something very complicated in very simple ways to you because it's there because we love you all right wim hof thank you very much for coming on under the skin right on fantastic yeah great great right we paused for it we fought the podcasters over there but then we kept talking and women said this which was very interesting which I wanted to include in the podcast so there was a little gap and then he said this there must be a consciousness prior to matter you know Norris yeah matter physically and matter dynamically the it a big bang there's the most stupid thing in the world existent that it all began with the Big Bang well what are you talking about it's a big part of the universe or what and and then like like we are began there is a there is a there is simply a matter which we are not able to measure with the devices we have yes yes yes yes yes yes and that gets into matter and when that matter comes then we are able to work with our consciousness on that matter to bring it back to that state wherein it was and now release it to get back into that state and there is the soul there is the beautiful soul which is immortal and indestructible there we find a relief of the fear and the concept of what is death and it and that should become physical and now we have the devices to show by DNA research and big microscopes etc how the metaphysics and how the matter dynamics work before while it goes into meta and when it is released it's like a telephone it's a body and when your telephone is kaput your information your consciousness is still in the iCloud it's it's not dependent on our body but with our body we are able to do what those people who are passed away we're not able to do and they passed away and their codes their consciousness is encrypted in our genome expressions and now we have found a way to tap in and to clarify and thus we do the breathing I bring the people with their consciousness inside and at a certain moment people begin to yell there isn't that strange thing like two days ago with 800 people are you 80 to do this in the round house or something yeah that thing that looks like a hank bang mmm I used by the way very good in a plane dang so well you were there and you hear people have like a sort of speaking in tongues type experience yes yeah yeah yeah yeah gloss a Leo like spirits are captured spirits are very much related to physical genome expressions our genetical cause or for the past generations are like captivated spirits though spirits have lived and they left a certain kind of genome expression which has embedded in in the passage through the sperm into our little new conception and there goes to light and grows into a baby and it has certain kinds of DNA inscriptions we are able being alive to tap in into the genome expression it's not only epigenetics I go a level beyond I mean in a sense as you said before it's an entirely new paradigm that's accessible when I listen to this it makes me think that all these billions of years of history and the evolution is merely the expression of a conscious force realizing itself as matter until that until its inaugural consciousness can be once again reacts s and it feels like we're almost at that point even though it's a time that seems culturally and socially defined by a certain kind of Darkness surely this consciousness knows how to realize itself through us the light will prevail yeah that will prevail nice one man thanks for listening I hope you enjoyed that episode with wim remember don't try any of those techniques in bloody water you lunatics it's dangerous go and look at his web site and learn about it properly like I have done and ever since become a very very powerful fella next week we're gonna be listening to Teresa Cheung and she's a spiritualist she's a wise woman she's gonna bring some much-needed feminine power for this podcast I'm very excited for you all to hear her she was a wonderful person to meet you in some fantastic books about mysticism and it was very enjoyable talking with her in the meantime the avid listener smiled one is Jack Monroe Adam Curtis Fearne Cotton Yanis varoufakis they've all been on so check him remember I'm doing those live shows at the moment from come see me go over brand calm and mentors the audiobook is very good some make someone listen to it as ever liked it anyway I love you thanks for listening stay with us hi thanks for watching this podcast and going all the way to the end of it was usually kindest to kick the Belmont up a little over there and there subscribing so that we can infiltrate your serenity and peace of mind with jangling bells and parties

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Every day and I mean EVERY day I don’t feel like taking my daily cold shower But once I’m in my energy gets a boost after only a few seconds And I step out of the shower alive and vibrant 5 minutes later... It’s such a treat Looking forward to cold winter swims, the best anti depressivum available Thank u Wim for changing my life for the better