This Trick Makes You Immune To Illness | Wim Hof on Impact Theory

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today's episode is brought to you by our amazing friends at bling cast on their behalf I hope you enjoy if I'm able to make my skin temperature not going down well being exposed to ice cold water skin temperature that's our and that power is the same power we can learn to embrace and awaken in which we are able to tackle any stressor in the world any stressor emotionally and physically and mentally whatever here you come up we are built to be able to oppose that to get through and to learn and not to be afraid because we have the power [Music] everybody welcome to impact Theory our goal with this show and company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that will help you actually execute on your dreams all right today's guest is a real-life superhero the first time I heard about him I really could not believe that he was real he holds 26 official Guinness World Records for feats that were long believed to be fatal or just outright impossible he's run a half-marathon above the Arctic Circle barefoot he's remained completely submerged in ice for nearly two hours and he climbed Mount Everest wearing only shorts he's also hung more than a mile off the ground by a single finger run an entire marathon in the new me about drinking a single drop of water and swam underneath the ice of a frozen ocean for almost the entire length of a football field on a single breath his radical demonstrations of what the human animal is truly capable of have garnered him devotees and skeptics in equal measure but he has systematically silenced the naysayers by subjecting himself to the rigors of science he has allowed himself to be poked prodded and probed during his insane feats and in one experiment even allowed himself to be injected with an endotoxin to prove through conscious action he could mobilize his immune system to neutralize the threat which is exactly what he did and when people tried to dismiss him as a genetic freak who is simply beyond the rest of us he taught 12 more people to do exactly what he did and they all got the exact same results so please help me in welcoming the man who can raise his core body temperature while submerged in an ice bath The Iceman himself wim HOF [Applause] welcome to the show man courageous in true thank Wow warm-hearted not cold not cold at all but now we're gonna get into some of the cold ass crazy [ __ ] that you do and I want to talk about adaptation what is it about what you do that triggers the adaptation response and what adaptation response doesn't trigger the power to adapt to this stressor in general we lost this connection is because we wear clothes all the time and we live in a comfort zone behavior we think we can control nature but by being non stimulative in our behavior we lost the connection in the depth of our physiology course we are able to adapt about to anything we are built to be able to adapt without stress into any stressful situation again a solution the body knows but because we got into this comfort zone behavior hundreds of years our genetics have changed our physiology has changed everything has changed and we lost actually the full power of the mind and I'm here to bring it back impact better listen to this conversation yes I like that alright so how do we bring it back I did many studies already because I don't like speculation I go through study this scrutiny and let any scientist prove me wrong because I like to go through the truth because I think there is more than meets the eye I did many studies and yes I could resist the bacteria as thought of not being able by humans we changed medical history by showing a group of people compared to sixteen thousand one hundred and thirty-four people becoming sick after injection of a endotoxemia and then suddenly twelve hundred percent score within a quarter of our complete control over the innate immune system and is specific by the way the adaptive immune system and how did I learn to do that and to pass it on because it's already there in us it only needs to awaken the finally adaptive immune system the adaptive immune system is willfully regulating and controlling your t-cells and b-cells and they are located in the bone marrow we are able to wilfully influence the bone marrow and to release the T and beta B cells which are very specific in the targeting on the bacteria and the virus and apoptosis cell death they created instead of fever and uncontrolled shivering and and headaches and being sick flus fever and all that is the second layer we got into the third layer into the depth of the immune system into the deepest so willfully being able to get into the bone marrow and release the T and B cells in case of inflammation is what we and inflammation I tell you is the course of any disease all right that that's a lot to dive into so first of all let's set aside inflammation for a second I've heard you talk a lot about that and we're definitely gonna get into X I struggle with inflammation but talking did you just say that you can willfully control apoptosis yes anybody can okay for that we have the breathing exercises and it has been shown in the comparative study all the guys who did their breathing exercises the end of talks he normally creates inflammation and thus uncontrolled shivering are all over agony headaches and fever and they're people really get sick after injected being injected with the bacteria e.coli and that's normal but it was not normal to be able to inoculate that reaction how did we do that by breathing exercises that are like controlled hypoxia where through the brain stem the fight and flight suddenly activates the adrenaline and resets the body and resetting the body is going past our comfort zone conditioning going back in our primordial state the way nature meant it to be and that is being able effectively to battle this ease very simple very effective very accessible for any human in the world and that we go a step further a Stepford is the last study wherein I was exposed to cold water and just by a thought I was able to make the skin temperature not going down well I was exposed to cold water on my skin ice water your skin temperature didn't yes and normally it goes down that is what everybody thinks isn't it and yes 74 people before me they did it and they saw all the same graphics it goes down after exposure to cold water and when warm water comes up then it goes up again and goes down called walk cold walk cold walk and then I did it same I didn't do anything why because I'm in command of my breath and with that I become in command of my alchemy and I'm able than to scent and to manipulate any part of my body they looked inside the brain and whereas normally a stress comes to work on the body and that could be cold could be heat but could also be emotion depression bipolar anxiety fear pta PTSD trauma it's all stress in the brain and it gets inflamed and we don't know how to break the loop now they looked inside of my brain while this stressor was gone on and I stayed out of the stressor when the call came in I just stayed over there and a warmth cold wolf I stay in control and then they looked inside to bring and whereas normally the activity of the stress is highlighting the prefrontal cortex the conscious brain because it's cold oh I feel bad because I'm divorced now and this and that and my business is gone and whatever you know stress real stress and that the insula which is normally active very activated when you go into deep meditation then the insula gets a is becoming more rat and then this is blue because deactivates the normal daily consciousness and the insula the deep meditation is oh and blood flow goes in the deeper parts of the brain something becomes all active and its pleasant it's nice before ik and the stress coming to my body did not make my prefrontal cortex active and then they saw something very remarkable which is a robust activation of the PA G which is part of the brainstem that is the deepest part of the brain the fight and flight the survival but also the area of the hormonal periaqueductal gray hemisphere which is responsible for the activation of opioids and we got an epidemic on opioids isn't it but we don't know how to tap in and to make these opioids work for us again say it's like pain killing analgesia natural works very strong inside of us we lost the connection but now it is here and the other one is the aforex hormones the cannabinoid endocannabinoid system both are there and they saw me activating for the first time in medical science robustly into that area that's why it did not only solve de-stresser from not being cold it was warm and the professor's they had a difficult time putting more ice in the water because I was warming up the water and I was doing nothing that is the power of our mind and what I can do anybody is able to do so when people are depressed or bipolar or anxiety or fear or trauma PTSD illustrators and they cannot break the loop I tell you we found the key to break the loop that's where I am right now with the science and now this needs to be implemented for those in need and there are many many in need so that is so extraordinary the fact that I'm so glad that you were doing a brain scan while you're doing that because I imagine when I think about what you must be doing I think about something being tensed something being hardened and so when I've practiced your breathing it's it's a very active intense like drive but hearing you talk about it as meditative of tapping into the insula of you know activating deeper regions of your brain and not the prefrontal cortex that paints like this whole other like emotional connection to have with what you're doing which changes entirely how I approach what you're talking about mmm which is really interesting another thing is they say we are doing right now and we got it endorsed through the Joan W brick mental health care foundation 1.2 million who endorsed this study on the DNA in San Francisco with the top researchers over there if you're changing yes or if you have a mission that allows DNA changes itself it prolongs in cell activity cell division which is a telomeres the condition of the telomeres is about longevity and the quality of life if it is not attacked by inflamed transcription factors then the d the genome expression is going to be just nice and right and besides of that the protective proteins around the cell are then through the hormetic exercises or the breathing you just mentioned together with the cold showers it is hormetic illustration hormetic forgotten hora Matic is like positive stress conscious stress you neurology is inside that and it connects with your body the way nature matter to be and in the primordial state of our cells the cells should be protected by proteins but because of our comfort zone behavior they are inactive does the flama Tori in impulses through the transcription factors just little ass holes and will go into the cell and they begin to mess up the telomeres the longevity the cell division the condition thereof and we live shorter and better so less and we are becoming vulnerable for the wrong genome expressions and that causes diseases because this is really interesting if this is really shaking down to hormesis which said another way is a little bit of bad does you a lot of good yeah and so you actually need something that stresses a system in a way that most people would think of as bad yeah it actually ends up being good and this is where I'm jarred in the best way possible with what you were saying about it being this meditative experience for you because I think of going in Isis brutally painful of requiring all of my discipline and desire to battle through and I I wouldn't have thought of it as being something that I have to relax into of you know really sort of releasing letting go relaxing almost removing myself from the certainly removing myself from the suffering of the pain but I'm curious are you when you're doing this and you've talked about dipping under the ice and going into this meditative state and you've described it with these sound effects which I always found really interesting but when you're going into that do you feel the pain and divorce yourself from the suffering or do you literally not feel any discomfort you feel anything but you learn to let go you follow the breath and thus the hormonal system the endocrine system which we have shown in scientific research is really active in your command and with that comes the adrenaline the epinephrine the opiates and cannabinoids all right now they are very strong I have a really strong painkillers as well yes right yeah so that's interesting so you're saying that you're actually killing the pain by tapping into that system because you've kicked off all this neuropharmacology base yes okay that's super interesting what I want to know is when you're going into the meditative state you know you've just been injected with the endotoxins yes what are you visualizing like what are you actually thinking when you're trying to get to adrenaline or bone marrow or I tell you if you go into here to the eyes you're really not thinking about your mortgage or your wife or this or that you are not going to picnic you feel the focus will be on your feeling how to get this feeling into adaptation and to overcome whatever is coming and it goes directly in a I tell you the the cold has been my teacher I just followed the teacher the feeling learned to let go intuitively I felt I want to do this I did yoga did come food it or all kinds of things and and a great part the cold is really merciless but righteous and I was ready to go in I felt intuitively I want to go in because it has got something I don't know what it is and yes I went in and I felt it the connection was there beyond any word and that's what I was looking for this tapping into deeper part of the brain feeling pure energy feeling power innate capacity the power we have to deal with that I was looking for that and since then I went on and on and on I know I did all these records and many more challenges I did crazy stuff really sitting all the night in your shorts outside in freezing temperatures and feel great that is something that is hower and I've been venturing and discovering more and more and finally I began to realize but it's all in the mind oh yes so learning to let go in the right way following your breath the breath is able to prime the body and then your mind the neurology of the mind if I'm able to make my skin temperature not going down well being exposed to ice cold water skin temperature that's the power and that power is the same power we can learn to embrace and awaken in which we are able to tackle any stressor in the world any stressor emotionally and physically and mentally whatever you come up we are built to be able to oppose that to get through and to learn and not to be afraid because we have the power of the mind you can't imagine to what degree I want that to become real in my life so I'm gonna start pinning you down and some things so that I can walk away from this knowing please do okay so it it seems like there's two things to your method number one is the breath so what I want to know is when you're breathing in the way that you're breathing which there's a lot of great video on there that will link to in the show notes so when you're breathing like that why do you think that allows you to begin to reconnect to something that everyone will call the autonomic system meaning that you don't have conscious control over how does that link it yes a very simple these breathing techniques I've learned to do in extreme cold so they are stream ly effective very soon I was able to stay and prolong my time in ice water feeling great but is the breath just about oxygenating the tissues AB stock surgeon ating not only to go past in this case to go past the lymphatic knots which normally inhibits the oxygen to go deeper now we found a way to go past these knots into the lymphatic system and with that you come into the depth of your body and making you able to alkalize you blood within a couple of minutes and with that a when the blood is the right pH degree then suddenly the neurology of the mind which is like electricity is able to run through on a subtle basis how familiar are you with hyperbaric oxygen not too much I never did that but so I know it heals infections and skin problems and things what we do is the same thing but then naturally we do controlled hypoxia like controlled high stage strain we just did a study in the Andes Mountains and in South America and 4,500 meters is about 14,000 feet and they compared Diamox which is used for acute mountain sickness very strong medicine to the breathing and the breathing one so the breathing is more effective on those height and in those extremes than a medicine and this is what editors are known and we got eight more studies coming out and then we got the power to chair to be the alchemist within our body that's the way nature meant it to be another thing is they say 20% of our brain is working [ __ ] that man it is hundred percent and we got Eddie innate capacity to enter into any part of our brain and now we have show to get into the deepest and with that we become the commanders of our own mind and body so actually we are mammals we are about you know we are built after millions of years as mammals if he is geologies inside their wiring and everything is inside and three times the world's length is vascular systems inside of us killer number one in our society is cardiovascular related it's big time and that is because we wear clothes we are never be stemmer stimulated through cold warm and pressure it's no longer there so there is a mediocre state of our vascular conditioning and that food that we take cold showers then there's some shock to the system that does yes horror horror missus or we do it consciously and with that we connect even with the brain with the vascular system all over and it's amazing how simple it can be how simple we contact the tackle this serial killer their cardiovascular related diseases we can tackle it a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away I love that so something that I didn't expect when I started impact theory is the number of people that stopped me the number of people that write to me and tell me that they're contemplating suicide ah so we we got so many people who don't commit who was sad because they found this hmm because nobody wants not to live but they don't know how to live and this where reactivates and resets their body to the way nature meant it to be and that is to be happy strong and healthy yeah talk to me about your wife and how this is the way I started my wife jumped from a eight story down in 95 four children had no money just there with four children my children made me survive and nature healed me and that was the cold because in the cold you shut up and all this turmoil the emotional confusion the broken heart is all physical it's all real the cold is able to shut it up shut it down and survive and with that I came slowly but surely in control over my emotions and now I'm able to make people aware of that capacity even without your cold showers in all those days but that's where it came from now I was powerless done with my wife who was a schizophrenic and psychos that put all kinds of pills in injections dinner work whatsoever there are spoilers but now I'm in power I saw in the sub current I'm working now with those kids and they work away with me and we get it spread this all over the world that we found a way how to deal with emotions with the cold with heat with stress in the brain in the body we found it and now I'm almost or so far that I'm dealing with a new comparative study with Wayne State University and Michigan on a comparative study on bipolar people within four days I will make them have a absolute sense of control when they are able to redirect their brain and my balance within the out of balance hormonal manic depressives and all and with that my circle is round from being powerless to power and I'm a dropout from school I'm teaching professors and doctors now all over the world and they say after seeing the results of me in the brain scans and the way I activate part of the brain thought of impossible by humans they say this is a transformational technique that will change mental healthcare and we see it the coal is my warm friend that's so powerful so I wanna I want to walk through what you're doing in these four days with people that are in this situation and taking them from not feeling like they have control to feeling like they're in control is it is it the exact same thing that you would teach somebody that's getting the injection with the endotoxin yeah there's literally no difference there's no no difference if you people get a get to me and they want to learn how to beat inflammation both with a physical course and I effect as a mental then come and I'll teach you because nature is my master nature's my teacher I just obey to the rules no it's tricks etc I'm gonna hand you over within four days you know it all and then you you learn to go into depth into the six and seven cents eight cents all controlled the way nature meant it to be I reset people within a couple of days and then go past the conditioning and then it is up to them to get out of the trodden neurological pathways and get into the new one and that they say if they asked me hey wimp what is enlightenment because I never asked it but I have to ask you because it seems you got some answers I say okay all Bibles and quran's are written about that [ __ ] so I tell you in one sentence what it is just be happy strong and healthy and the rest is [ __ ] yes the the way we are schooled is to take on that out immune diseases cancer depression and alike and power a gaining power and being insensitive is normal I think it is sick and we got to stand up and show through scientific research that and no speculation that it is not so and it sounds like what you're saying is the thing that stops us all from that at a really like cellular level is inflammation yes so the sort of general root cause because you've talked about being able to alleviate symptoms of arthritis even thrown in cancer because to you the root cause of all of that is inflammation the information cause and deregulation on cell level in the DNA in the genome expression so all the same things now we have learned to tap into the lymphatic system and we just finished this study within 20 minutes alkalis the blood in the lymphatic system which is the deepest one considered to be inaccessible now is accessible and it's actually the storage of garbage chemistry within our body and now we know with these breathing techniques how to get a pasty not get into the slight acidic state of the storage capacity of the lymphatic system and change them to becoming alkaline or cleanse it when we're getting the knots so we're admittedly for anybody watching we were way out of my depth so I'm gonna be asking probing questions that are educated but I fully understand I'm outside my depth here but when you sleep your brain actually shrinks because the inflammation goes down it allows certain I mean use the word toxins to be flushed out of the brain things like the amyloid plaques and things that can build up in somebody that ultimately will show signs of Alzheimer's do you think that what's happening at the lymphatic level is a similar kind of reduction in inflammation caused by the breathing absolutely pulling the the oxygen in that I mean at least there's like an internal logic that I can wrap my head around which would be immediately clear it is paired with the parasympathetic activity which is done on the autonomic nervous system level now we have shown to get into the autonomic nervous system and to create both sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system activity at will so if you do the breathing before you go to sleep or if you do the cold showers then you will sleep better so cold shower day keeps the doctor away yes and it's good all right so for everybody that's about to embark on this journey and I'll include myself in that I want to go back to when you're 17 yes the ice water starts calling to you and also part of what makes this fascinating is you have an identical twin yes so one it's fascinating that you guys took very divergent paths so if I understand right you've begun to teach him your method yes but when you're there at the water and it's calling to you mm-hmm what what is that like it's 17 I know you'd been searching searching for like I need this this whatever this is I need it all to make sense I need to connect to a God or something to to fill me up to let me connect to something bigger than myself so yes you have that calling I don't know what but it is there and it is inside of me and it's more than meets the eye and all that and it at age of 12 study psychology and going into Hinduism Buddhism and all kinds of esoteric disciplines and when I was 17 ugh I just had this feeling and my twin brother who's identical is not able to do only after my training to come up with the result because it's not genetical it is trained and so this one is able to be trained by any body to have the fact that you're an identical twin it's like you're the perfect subject I mean it's literally crazy you have an identical twin to be like the perfect control subject yes yes absolutely it's like hundred percent genetical score match and he is not able to do it and I'm not and I'm able to do it so they did certain kinds of experiments and they saw this in scientific environment that I was able to do things and he could not and the later when I trained him he was able to do about the same Jesus that's that's extraordinary we all are able to battle inflammation to have a control top down in our body much more than we thought possible at least to be able to guarantee happiness strength and health which is all related to hormones and the control of the immune system and nervous system all right let's go the next step so you've got happiness strength and health and health so what is happiness happiness is all the if for work hormones related to the game endocannabinoid system we have absolute access therein at will we only need to invest in exercise internet like a child has to learn to walk so what do you want you want to be dependent on pills and this and that and drugs etc or do you want to get high on your own supply it's there why do you play guitar music is the voice of the heart of course of your feeling and its resonance and resonance getting into the brainwaves and we have tested this with the NASA equipment doing the breathing makes you able to go into these deep alpha delta gamma waves in fully controlled but music shift your greater brainwave just at will yes anybody can do that how far could you could you go to like if I said we're all gonna make noise but I want you to get into a gamma wave state which is like [ __ ] deep meditation could you do that in like five minutes or less if I go a couple of minutes I'm getting there Wow I'm resonating with that force with that resonance and that affects certain parts of the brain deeper parts of the brain who are connected with the voice and and and her resonance and which is a deeper part of the brain begins to active be activated thus the blood flow begins to descend into the depth of the brain and then it becomes enlightened and activated and gets the nutrients and the biochemistry and that's meditation all about now mindfulness is very much a researched and it shows that through mindfulness you are able to activate deeper parts of the brain they become more alive because simply the blood flow goes to these deeper part but what we have seen now in the brain scans not even seasoned practitioners and mindfulness are able to activate those parts you have been activating and I say it's innately capacitated to anybody but it needs the conscious technique and passing on of that not money as his rep but it it is there but it needs to be awakened it needs to be shown if you always walk to this way to the house because that's your knowledge you don't know the shortcut which was always there god is there any way for you to put it into words so obviously there's no substitute for the training but what what is it like there such practice meditators but they can't do it you can do so what is that thing that you're able to pass for days the confidence opening up your heart and suddenly you become aware that it is simply there within four days we get into a tribal sense together there is no me and you we are together in nature battling cold there there is no thoughts you help each other you get this natural sense of helping each other which enables me like oxytocin I help you it's really strong that oxytocin and within those groups I do in nature within one a half day they are out of their conditioned state of them are mind holding in tension and completely open relaxed and then they are able to let go and let the body do what the body is able to do in extreme situations because they are no longer confined in their narrowed consciousness everything reacts to it directly and finds the answer and with that comes everybody and and it all suddenly makes sense that love is the greatest power of the universe and that we lost a tribal sense of helping each other and it makes them able in just four days to go in temperatures like way down in freezing temperatures in conditions and then having great fun and dance the Harlem shake in your socks up on the mountaintop after hours in those conditions those that makes the depth suddenly aware to one's consciousness and that is like I never felt this I never yeah but that's you and that you we are here to promote to show that everybody has it and so all the problems in the world we have a system inside in wilful possible command if we only exercise and awaken to it to handle anything that comes to us because that's the way we were built not hopeless full of hope and not 20% of the brain within our command about hundred and there are this and with a hundred we find freedom because we can go anywhere without fear because we are in control god damn I love that before I asked my last question tell these guys where they can find you I got a website it's wim HOF method dot-com there is a free app and you can get a get it all for free on there and then you try out because feeling is understanding all right my last question what's the impact that you want to have on the world together with impact theory we go into the detail and impact theory is not only impact Theory you guys are a platform and you make you bring it out and that's though there are the deeds because people will take this up through common sense a man this [ __ ] works and with that it's gonna run because when [ __ ] works it gets all the place do you want to see this in school systems oh absolutely I think they they should not only be trained in say mathematics and a history and language but also in happiness strength and health and children oh they are naturally still at the core we got alienated they are still there they are born with it we should never go away because that unconditional love unconditional power to be held strong and help and happy doesn't need six cars or ten houses no it's already there and with that we don't we go away from this possessive way of thinking and an insensitive trying to find a position to secure our life and all that fear-based no you have the full control over your own mind we were born with it and we never are going to teach our children again to become narrow in their consciousness but learn from the beginning to expand to it all and that's the real school of life and we're in this soul is a flower and it's mating thank you so much for coming on the show man right I was incredible guys [Applause] I am literally speechless that was one of the most incredible hours of my life I hope that you guys were as hit by that as I was that was beyond extraordinary to think that so many problems come down to inflammation and that we really can take conscious control of that and that this is a journey that anyone can go on and I think the biggest mistake you could make possibly in your life if he's right about this is to dismiss him as being genetically more advantaged than anybody else and instead to see that you can train your way to that and the fact that he was born an identical twin this is so crazy this is like I don't believe in fate man but it's like it was set up perfectly to show us just how much is possible and that is exactly what I think he represents just how much is humanly possible and I 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