Has Veganaury Gone Too Far? | This Morning

last year meat sales fell by 184 million quids so a lot less of us are eating meat and part of this is due to the rise in veganism and campaigns such as meat free Monday and how do you say this began you began your worry think which is which is not January began you re okay so yeah that's when people pledged they do vegan for this month it's a bit of a tester of beginners a lot of people are asking the question has began we've gone a bit too far is it time we started sticking up for the meat industry we'll be joined this morning by vegan activist Gerry Armstrong alongside proud meat eater Rachel curry who actually hunts and kills her own meat guys good to see you before we begin I just want to explain to people what veganism is it is a lifestyle that avoids all animal foods such as meat dairy eggs and honey as well as animal derived products such as leather and as far as possible products tested on animals fair enough yeah yeah okay and is that something that that you think people should aspire to as the world changes as we aware of climate change as aware of better health you think this is a good thing yeah of course it's a good thing if you're against animal cruelty animal abuse and just killing innocent animals and breeding them exploiting them the new by a default should be a vegan I think the gunner is an amazing campaign there's no sinister intention behind it it seeks to save animals to help the environment it's an insane use of our resources to drol this food to feed to animals and then kill them and take a small morsel of their flesh and so positive campaign vegan I've been vegan for six years and I'm healthier than ever and what made you want to become a vegan was there a point in your weight loss originally I was clinically obese and then I found a diet to lose weight I come across a raw foodist he talked about the power of fruits and vegetables I lost a significant amount of weight and then I connected to the karmic sort of ethical sense of killing animals that I didn't see any good coming out of that surely it's interesting that twice as many women do it Oh's man I think women are more connected to their emotions and more connected debt to their compassion and men are just there's more stigmas I say twice as many women doesn't mean all women including the one beside you beside you here who we're not going to talk to and this is Rachel Richard is amor began you are a well I have nothing against anyone's personal choice how they choose to manage their health or you know what they choose to eat basically but I also feel like I have the right to choose as well what's best for me the interesting thing is I actually was a vegetarian when I was younger for the same amount of years as Joey's been a vegetarian I'm not a vegetarian I'm a vegan so my six years I was vegetarian it didn't work out for me for health reasons I became really quite anemic and quite poorly when I was little but that's just a really low that's an anecdote we have the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics one of the credible organizations on health on earth and they say a vegan diet can be healthy for all stages of life including infancy in the media recently we're in quite a few famous influences as well have had the same effects when I work outside the house at the minute so they've actually changed back to a meat-based diet would you accept jewelry that you would have to plan your diet a bit more old I planned are you gonna go out any sausage rolls and burgers and Pringles all diets should be appropriately planned now your solution I think is to for the 66 million people in the UK to go out and hunt wild game absolutely not what is your solution I don't have one solution there's no weakness I see it's all my view is that there should be a balance this should never be an extreme of one I don't wouldn't encourage everyone to eat meat and I certainly wouldn't encourage everyone to eat plants well I think there are invited environmentalists and I know that there are environmental impacts against both of the extremes I believe in balance I believe in people having choice but I also totally agree with your views on other well of ours - V are you opposed to animal agriculture conventional animal agriculture as it stands I am opposed to factory farming and I am opposed to poor animal welfare so why do you oppose V January when it seeks what about people who say I'm a responsible why do you one make that what you would also like me ask her why she opposes V January wouldn't be January seeks to boycott the industry she claims to be against because she believes you can eat meat and promote animal welfare at the same time I do I do also I might also say I don't oppose being a vegan I oppose anything which kind of encourages people to take a militant view on anything and go out there and disrupt we have really hard-working British farmers the UK actually has some of the highest animal welfare standards in the world that is nonsense you has been so many so many expose I've been in slaughterhouses myself I've been out the front of gas chambers in Manchester hearing pigs scream for their lives high welfare slaughter is a fairy tale that is nonsense Julia I reckon that us as consumers there's a complete disconnect when we go to the soup you're correct that we see stuff in packets and we don't ever think have you seen the sort of how slightly I have not been to a slaughter exactly and that's why I'm so passionate because it's impractical I think it's impractical and it's not fair to hunting practically I think we should no I did not say that so what it was absolutely not no you have a solution I was in potato during I think fostering high animal welfare standards is absolutely the way that we all should go I'm not telling them as well I think it's fantastic that people are thinking more about what's on their plates where the vegan vegetarian or meat-eater I think we should all strive to just have a better awareness you know what is making your practical making a practical decision in a supermarket one true soy milk / dairy milk choose tofu / beef that's a practical solution going out getting a gun and shooting a deer in the head like you do is not a practical solution for the working class in the UK we're offering pay I'm not trying to force my view on anyone I'm not making a month called you know meaty March or anything about in your book which is promoting promoting a way of life which is not practical for the whole population we're offering I have said it has an either is of pure plant-based reduce the farmland on earth percent we can reduce farmland on earth by 75% if we adopt a vegan diet that's when Joseph can you can you answer me the question of how many animals died to protect your crops that you eat uh-huh by how many animals died and how much biodiversity eyes let me add to you when we clear most of the crops are fed to animals in animal agriculture 90 percent of the soy most of the majority of cropland is fed to animals in animal agriculture how we sing another card okay the grasses they grain pigs eat grain 90 percent of the pigs in the UK factory farm so all of those crops are going to animals okay if you eat the plants directly 75% less farmland used if we how would you discuss 70 or 75 percent that's Oxford University Joseph's poor so this is a non argue so there's a place there's a farm called net farm which Foster's is gone right back to organic and old-fashioned farming they've actually found that livestock farming encourages a massive increase in biodiversity they've actually brought animals which were extinct number one the number one number one cause of speciation is loss of habitat and the deforestation rabbit are is deforestation angry about this you can't hear the opposing view because it's nonsense crop deaths isn't that's not nonsense that's a nonsense because most of the crops are being fed to the animals at people you have a dog no I don't know I don't I'm a travelling activist and I don't have a dog what's it what I just wondered if you had a dog and if you have a dog what you said it yeah I have three so why do you shoot other animals and not your dog how do you claim to be an animal lover I shoot deer in the head I don't shoot deer in the head footage I actually shoot them through the heart because it's the it's the quickest most ethical death shooting someone the heart is ethical do you also do you consider have you ever sat with a wildlife biologist and discussed the effect that the would have on the environment if we just left animals to dead zone Uche forestation of water use land uses animal agriculture by far nothing could happen to a woodland and the ecology in that woodland and the biodiversity if we just left deer and managed we stop any foresting land to feed animals grain that biodiversity would realize we have to DeForest a DeForest state to feed humans then you've already got enough farmland like I said if we all ducted a vegan diet we could reduce our farmland by 75% that's Oxford University saying that also going back to net forest is an example you do realize that forest is not actually wilderness before that we had megafauna in the UK which were wild horses elk and lots of a different species actually a wild cow which are now extinct but they created a biodiverse landscape for more than woodlands surely you would support biodiversity great support shooting deer in there and that's killing animals I guess my values just finally and briefly if anyone and in this began uary fields they'd like to give this a go but they don't want to totally convert yeah what are what are the small steps what are the initial things that people you would recommend people to do a practical solution for the whole population here in the UK is to choose soya milk or rice milk or oat milk over the dairy milk or to choose plant foods which are healthier for you cheaper in the supermarket the legumes and grains and beans and vegetables and just make decisions in the supermarket when you go to buy you know you're the meat and dairy and form a connection again as to where your food comes from Joey carb Strunk thank you very much did Richard Gary thank you very much indeed you

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Length: 10min 29sec (629 seconds)

Published: Fri Jan 03 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/prosperouslife]

Omnivore: "I have nothing against anyone's free choice to eat what they want. Personally, I'm healthier eating animals".

Vegan: "you're all evil cunts for slaughtering innocent animals cause you like how bacon tastes!! that's not science!!. I've heard pigs scream for their lives outside the gas chambers! Why don't you shoot your dog?"

lol he made a fool of himself. did he snort coke before this interview? His eyes were all bugged out. why can't vegans act like normal civil adults without interrupting people every 5 seconds?

[u/I_Just_Varted]

What a cunt. Welldone to the meat eating lady👏 for keeping her cool and being professional.

Eat tofu instead of beef? No mate, no. Tofu is disgusting and has a similar effect on me as a lactose intolerant person drinking milk. Some people are intolerant to many plant based foods, it's not fit for all.

[u/madamecitrus]

That nutjob Carbstrong, don't they have a real cult vegan leader, that guy is a joke.

[u/firenest]

I'm so embarrassed by how many of these people are Australian.

[u/BarnMTB]

It was so painful to watch, the vegan guy keeps talking over the meat hunter. He just won't allow her to talk without interrupting.

And he keeps saying that having everyone go out and hunt for their food is not practical even though she had already said that that's not her intention and there's no one size fits all solution.

Then I remembered that he is a Vegan Activist and he tattooed the word "Vegan" around his right ear when he turned his head.

Somehow heavily reminded me of a guy who wear necklace with the word "Vegan" in a YouTube video.

[u/[deleted]]

This guy's the epitome of overcompensation. He's a violent thug and gang member, so I guess now the guilt has caught up to him so badly, he has to go around acting like everyone else is a terrible bad guy for eating food just to alleviate some of it.

I'm not about to allow myself to be lectured about "morality" by low brow criminal scum.

[u/dem0n0cracy]

TL;DR: yes

[u/Zcox93]

I find it amazing how she sat there and let him talk with out trying to talk over the top of him at the start and didn’t lose her cool or anything like that.

But then as soon as she starts talking he loses his shit and starts trying to talk over the top of her.

What a stupid cunt.

[u/Molinero54]

How rude can you get. So you lost a lot of weight by turning vegan 6 years ago? So fucking what. You are now bat shit crazy. Let's all switch to almond milk and see what affect that has on the environment then shall we