Armed nation. Today we're talking about guns. Even knowing we can
shoot ourselves in the foot. People will definitely call me
son of a gun because this subject
is a trigger. Facilitating the access to guns was one of Bolsonaro's main agendas
in his campaign, along with
"ending everything there is." And he's accomplishing that. No matter what
"ending everything there is" means, we can see that it's ending. From Pantanal
to Operation Car Wash, going through our desire to live. Bolsonaro's goal
was to arm good citizens, so they could defend themselves
against thugs. Even though he never explained
how we can draw this distinction. And even him seems kind of confused
about that. Bolsonaro, so if everybody carries a 38,
all problems will disappear? Of course... -If everybody carries a 38...
-Thugs are armed! -Good citizens need guns too!
-Let's think about it... So, thugs have guns
and good citizens don't, said the guy who carries a gun
and whose sons carry guns. "Oh God... Am I a...?" That was the exact moment
when Bolsonaro found out that maybe he's a thug,
surrounded by thugs. Here's a logic that backfired. Talking about his sons, Eduardo seems
to be the most obsessed about guns. Maybe only Freud
can explain that, considering that
his family friends call him "Bananinha". He spent a lot of time on PP,
and then went to a tiny party. He's so obsessed that he went
to Silvio Santos' show with a pistol. Yes, Silvio Santos, an elderly man
who's basically only dangerous when he opens his mouth. Check out the gun
inside his pants. It's clearly a 9mm. Since he took office,
Eduardo's father made it clear that no other subject
is so important to him as filling up the country
with bullets. 15 days after taking office,
he edited a decree, facilitating the purchase
of guns and ammo. Since then, there's been 8 decrees
and 11 directives to facilitate the access
to guns and ammo. If you think Bolsonaro is useless,
you're being unfair. He just ignores
superfluous things, like hunger, the pandemic,
education, economy... It's important to arm
a hungry population that is dying
with no education nor money. And he's doing that. When it comes
to cause the death of Brazilians, he's doing his best. Bolsonaro family's obsession with guns
got really worse in 2003, when a Chinese respiratory pandemic
had been controlled and Corona was just
an Eurodance band to us. In 2003, a law was approved
in the Congress and it was nicknamed
"Disarmament Statute". The statute was basically one law
that established reasonable rules to buy a gun. Before 2003, it was almost authorized
to buy guns and ammo in Brazil. Rules were really flexible.
It was basically like this. I'll use
Jair Bolsonaro's example. If you went to Mesbla or Walmart, Extra or Pão de Açúcar, you'd get your ID, show it,
pay for the gun or pistol, and you'd buy it. He likes big guns, huh? I'm telling you,
he's clearly worried with this Brazilian issue, which is
the poor distribution of centimeters. I'm not the one saying it, if you know what I mean. Now, picture Pão de Açúcar
selling guns, with the current price of rice, and people with their carts full
on the express line. Then you want to buy Toddynho,
but there's only Neapolitan. It doesn't make any sense
having 3 flavors on a beverage. There'll be a shooting.
It'll be a Nescau mess. Anyway, the 2003 law
was basically created to avoid the legal sale
of guns to criminals. So, in 2003, wasn't gun selling
forbidden by the Statute? No, it wasn't! The law just defined
that to buy guns and ammo you had to be 25 years old,
employed, have permanent residence,
not be responding to lawsuits, nor being convicted. These are very reasonable rules. It's not even close to a prohibition
for gun selling. The law shouldn't be called
"Disarmament Statute". It should be called "How not to
buy a gun at Mesbla Statute". Or "Dismesblament Statute", max. Following these restrictions,
you could have a gun at home. To carry it on the streets
or take it for a walk, you had to be a State officer
or a professional security guard. The law also determined
that people who owned guns had to renew their licenses
every 3 years, to prove they still had
a clean record, for example. If the guy becomes an assassin
with the gun he bought, he'd better not renew
his license, right? So, people also had to explain
their need to have a gun in writing. And then a Federal Police chief
had to check the documents and analyze if the need
proceeded or not. Carluxo, for example,
maybe would have his request denied. "Barefooted vultures
reveal a trap that impious would never
be surprised by. That's why I need a Glock, sir." "Look, not only
we deny your request, but also we suggest
you stay away from sharp objects, okay, Mr. Carlos Bolsonaro?" The law also anticipated
that after 2 years there'd be a referendum
to decide if gun selling would be completely forbidden
in Brazil. This referendum actually existed,
and 63% of people answered "no". That's why gun selling
has never been forbidden in Brazil. The population's "no"
was not referring to the Disarmament Statute,
but to the complete prohibition of gun selling,
which in fact has never happened. But it seems Jair himself
never understood that. I'm enforcing
what's been decided by people in 2005's referendum! People have decided:
"We want to buy ammo"! The government, going against democracy,
forbid people to buy guns. No, man, people didn't decide
to buy guns in 2005. That's not what was written.
You know that. Bolsonaro is acting
like people at the airport, asking if you want
a bag as a gift. You say: "Yes, sure." And they think you agreed
on signing Isto É for 15 years. Then you get Boa Forma, Tititi
and Isto É for 30 years because you accepted a bag. No... Maybe that's why
we say "bag of tricks". What people decided in 2005 was that they didn't want
to forbid gun selling. And the government actually
didn't forbid, it just kept the rules
that already existed. But despite the rules, many people found a way
to evade the Statute. What became very clear
afterwards, in 2011, when there was a CPI about guns
in Rio's Legislative Assembly, was that guns that fuel
this illegal trade come from the legal industry,
especially from the police and security companies. On a second CPI in 2015,
it was proven that in 10 years Military and Civil Police
had almost 1,500 guns and over 10k munitions diverted
only in Rio. At the same time,
private security companies had almost 18k diverted guns, and 95% of companies are controlled
by policemen or militaries on active duty or not. And it's curious because
the police says these diversions are "losses,
robberies or thefts". How do you lose a rifle? "I had it with me just now, guys. I think I left it in the taxi. I think... Oh, I left it in my pocket
and it went to the washing machine. I always lose my rifles
in the washing machine." And they say potheads are dull. Curiously,
there was just one deputy that voted against the approval
of reports from these 2 CPIs. It was Flávio Bolsonaro. This is how
he explained his vote. Despite having suggested that some names were called
to the CPI, such as Viva Brazil Movement
representatives, who could make
this subject clear... If deputies listened to how
they're complying with the legislation, I'm sure these arguments wouldn't be
here in this final report. Yes, Flávio disagreed with the CPI,
even though he was its rapporteur, causing a split inside it. Thanks to Flávio,
the CPI cracked. But what is the Viva Brazil Movement
he mentioned? It's an organization created
by a guy who's very mentioned
by the Bolsonaro family, called Bene Barbosa. Bene is like a gun influencer. "Guys, I love this profession. Check out this gift
I got from Taurus. Check out that shot.
It matches my tie." For you to understand
the kind of person he is, he autographs the book he wrote by shooting it. He calls it a "shotograph". Yes, he's proud of being
the only writer in the world who does that. I guess he didn't properly understand
the concept of having a target audience. That's another thing, man. The curriculum we found
on his website, we saw that Bene
has a problem with math in general. After all, it's written
on his curriculum that he was a source
to countless news stories, that he's given several lectures and has participated
in countless debates about guns. Besides being the writer of over
200 published articles about the subject. It could be counted,
he's just lazy. Lazy to count
and use other adjectives, because he used
the word "countless" 5 times. We counted. Bene introduces himself on Instagram
as "an expert in Public Safety", although he just
has a bachelor's degree in Law with no expertise
and no experience in a public office. Bene earns money
with shooting classes, lectures
and home defense courses, or as he likes to call it, as a patriot,
"home defense workshop". Of course. Home defense is... It'd be too cheap, you can charge more
for a "home defense workshop". He also has an online bookstore
that sells pocket knives, baseball bats,
and electric shock torches. Yes, in his online bookstore.
Bene's bookstore. If people can't read
the whole book, they can torture it
into telling them all information. "Shooting books is too violent." Then you can hit it
with a baseball bat, I don't know. Calling it "home defense" in English
may seem like a strategy, but it makes all sense
for a guy like Bene. Why? He managed to convince
a great part of the country that he's an expert
in public safety, but he basically lives for adapting
the American ideology of arms to Brazil. Better yet, the NRA,
National Rifle Association, the most powerful lobby group
of guns in the U.S. It uses misinformation to fight
any regulation in the guns market, and now it's at risk of ending,
accused of corruption and of being
a terrorist organization. NRA uses as ideology support
a radical interpretation of an amendment from the American Constitution,
the famous 2nd amendment, which states that
the Congress can't create laws that violate the right
of citizens to have guns. And the most important thing:
of forming well-organized militia. Maybe that's why Flávio likes it. It was a trigger to him. In the book he shoots,
to give his "shotograph", Bene basically develops
3 arguments. I don't know if it's because
of the shot, but his arguments
have many holes. First of all, he denies
that guns can kill. "Just people can kill", he says. But people with guns kill
way more than people without guns. It's obvious. 7 out of 10 homicides
in Brazil are performed with firearms. Without guns,
it's way harder to kill someone. It seems that Flordelis,
for example, had been poisoning her husband
for over a year. He was hospitalized many times,
with vomit, diarrhea... People would say it was
a virus disease or an evil spirit. Every time,
SUS would save the guy. Then she got tired of it
and bought a gun. Then it was fast.
But it's demanding. You must really want it
to do it without a gun. The second argument Bene
repeats nonstop in his book is the idea that guns... That more guns to society make society safer in general. Why? Because if every person
has a gun to protect themselves, the public result is that everyone
will be protected. The problem,
besides not making sense, is that
there's no proof this is true. There are researches all over the world
to test this hypothesis, and none shows
that armed societies are safer. All data show that
the more guns a society has, the more
it'll have armed violence. And it's kind of obvious. According to IPEA,
the increase of 1% of firearms increases homicide rates in 2%. No research shows the opposite. Eduardo Bolsonaro,
in a moment of honesty, admitted that Bene's statements
aren't supported by any research. It's not a coincidence
that this agenda projected Bene Barbosa, someone with no resources
and unknown, to be seen as an icon
of this movement now. Someone who's a reference in this field
and that we all study. Why is that? Because us,
self-defense supporters, we don't have extra money
to do research, to pay NGOs, to support the bullshit
you'll present to society. I guess he doesn't know
how researches are made. He thinks you can buy
researches with a paycheck. "How much is the research
to legalize abortion? I'll write this paycheck,
and you give me a research saying drugs can't kill."
That's not how it works, man. Even if it was, if you could
buy research results with a lot of money, the ones with money to do that
would be the arms industry. Or does he think Taurus
is in deep shit? He thinks they fabricate guns
in their garages. "Homemade guns.
Do you want some? Naturally-leavened guns.
I learned how to do it on YouTube. I could be robbing or killing,
but I'm just making guns for you, guys. I'm a good person." That's not how it works, man. I feel sorry for people who defend
the interests of a billionaire industry without getting anything for it and thinking people don't get
anything for it either. Anyway, even the idea
that being trained and armed could facilitate
your reaction in a robbery cannot be supported
by reality or data. In the state of Pará, in 2012,
when the government allowed policemen to take their guns home, the number of policemen
killed off duty doubled. And most policemen
murdered in Brazil were killed off duty
even being armed and even being more
prepared professionals, theoretically. Bolsonaro himself,
with his athletic history, already had his gun
and motorcycle robbed. At the time, he stated that: "Even armed, I felt helpless." I guess it also happened
with your son, Eduardo. Feeling helpless
with his own gun. Anyway... Bene's third
and more important argument is that the Disarmament Statute
would've lead to an increase in the number
of homicides in Brazil. Eduardo also likes
to repeat this information a lot. Gun deaths have been increasing. That is, it's not about
legalizing guns or mitigating the law to solve or end the issue of homicides in the country. It's more about
a policy in that sense, so we can rescue good homicide numbers
we had when guns were authorized. He talks about
good homicide numbers as if he were talking
about good drinks. For someone who's already
awarded militiamen, homicide numbers in the 1990s
were pretty good indeed. Check out this graph,
check out these numbers. Check out what a great increase. Look at the homicide rate,
it was constantly increasing up to 2003, that, by coincidence,
it's the year of the Statute. Then it starts decreasing
and, in 2007, it gets to the same rate
as 10 years before. Then it starts rising again,
because inspection decreases, but in 2015, it still hadn't got
to the same as 2003. Despite the Disarmament Statute
being undeniably good to decrease homicide rates
in Brazil, many deputies want to cancel it,
and I get it. Almost half of deputies
from the committee to revoke the Disarmament Statute
received donations from manufacturers
of arms and ammo. The industry doesn't have
money to pay for researches, but they have money
to pay many deputies. Until recently, the most developed
project at the Chamber of Deputies to revoke the Statute
was the one by deputy Rogério Peninha, the law project 3722, from 2012. The project was presented with
a text full of lies and distortions. For example, it states that
"during 2004 and 10 months of 2005, homicide rates
didn't suffer a decrease." Peninha mentions
the 2011 violence map as a source, when the report states that during
the exact period he mentioned there was a decrease
in homicides. Apparently, Peninha learned
how to count with Bene. The deputy was questioned
about this "mistake" and answered that:
"Oh, we need to check the numbers." That's exactly
what he was told to do. "You need to check these numbers",
"Yeah, I do. Check the numbers." And that was it. It seems he didn't read
what he wrote himself. I feel sorry for him. And there's more, the law project
quotes a UN study to declare that
for the first time in history, the entity has admitted that we can't establish
a direct relation between population's legal access
to guns and homicide rates. But the UN's document
doesn't state that, it states the opposite. It states that easy access to guns
can affect significantly the number of deaths. About this contradiction, Peninha declared that nobody should expect the UN, the creator
of civil disarmament thesis, to leave
their disarmament speech. Peninha, my friend, you were the one
who mentioned the UN. You made up what the UN said,
then they told you what they didn't say, so you said:
"What would the UN say?" I don't know, dammit!
You said what they had said! Actually,
I get Peninha's confusion, because as he admitted himself, it wasn't him
who wrote the project. I was just a correspondent
of this law project. The person who elaborated it
and presented me the offer, after going through
several offices, was my dear friend Bene Barbosa,
Benedito Gomes Barbosa, who's right here,
along with Fabrício Rebelo. Yes, to Peninha, Bene was like Guilherme Fontes
on A Viagem, an obsessed spirit,
telling him bullshit. He's responsible
for the shit you do. That was Bene. Bene himself pretends
the project is Peninha's. The law project 3722,
Peninha's project, is a complex one, a complete one, a project that must be
read and understood. He's saying the text
he wrote himself is complete, complex and beautiful.
"Peninha's really talented." It sounds like people who create
fake accounts to compliment themselves, like Carla Zambelli. "Hey, Carla, you look beautiful!",
"Thanks, Carla", "Stop, Carla", "You're amazing", "No, you are." Since Bolsonaro took office,
cartridge sales skyrocketed. It increased 24%. This trigger has been pulled mainly
by shooters, hunters, collectors and gun stores, which doubled their sales
in the first 5 months of this year. Since 2019, over 267 million munitions
were put in circulation. That means one bullet to each Brazilian
with change left over, in bullets, of course. The number of guns sold
by shooting clubs also went up. In 2019, they sold 78,048 guns. This year, they've already sold
76,400 up to August. Before Bolsonaro's decrees,
citizens could have a handgun. Now they can have
a semi-automatic gun, which is almost like
a machine gun, the one American teenagers use
to do mass shooting at schools. Yes, mass shooting, because
the name in Portuguese is too 1990s. The age limit to practice
shooting sports is now 14 years old, a rule that has already lead
to a tragedy, like the one in July,
in a luxury condo in Cuiabá, where a 14-year-old teenager
shot and killed her friend, also 14 years old. The teenager and her parents
practice shooting sports. In the first year
of Bolsonaro government, the number of shooting club members
increased almost 70% compared to last year. There were 147,800k
new registrations. And Bolsonaro has been helping
shooting clubs a lot. A member of this kind of club can now
buy up to 180k munitions per year. They can spend 10k bullets per month
and they'll have 60k left to shoot at the sky
at Vivendas da Barra's New Year. Or to make a beautiful
Witzel portrait with bullets. They like that. Now, sport shooters
can have up to 60 guns, and 30 of them
can be semi-automatic. It's enough to create
your own army. It seems that's what they're doing,
starting with the bunkers. Nowadays,
shooting clubs in Brazil have 507,481k guns in storage. Cool, huh? Each Bolsonaro supporter
can now have their own militia. It's really democratic,
you can have your own militia. One of the main problems caused
by the increase of guns and ammo is that it's harder
to solve crimes. For example,
after Marielle's murder in 2018, it was discovered
that the guns that killed her were part of a huge lot
of almost 2 million cartridges. Then it was almost impossible
to track the owners. As a result,
the Army's logistical command started thinking about better ways
to improve this. From March to April this year,
the Army published 3 directives with measures to increase
the traceability of guns and bullets. For example, by establishing
that lots should have 1k cartridges, 10k tops, to facilitate
murder investigations. Reasonable, right?
Yes, that's why it didn't last. Bolsonaro revoked
these directives. Apparently, he thought they'd be
disrespectful to murderers' privacy. But all these loosen measures
for gun and ammo control are justified by an ideology
that Bene makes pretty clear on this debate he had
with a Military Police colonel. In the moment we're living,
of social chaos, I have many examples
of colleagues I lost... Unfortunately in my family,
I lost my dad. He had been on duty for 33 years,
he was very experienced, and he was surprised
by 2 criminals. He was shot 11 times
with his own gun. Yes, okay... So, the chance
that untrained people, people with no experience,
the practice we develop with time... For them to react accordingly
is very different. Yes, and who gives you
the power to choose for me? By "you" I mean "politicians". But you must think
about the society we want. No, I'm talking about myself,
as a person. What? She has a great argument. She proves that guns can't make
well-trained people safer. What does he do? He gives up
on the public safety argument... Because you can't tell
a military police officer who lost her father
that her argument is a lie. So, he starts talking
about freedom. He says: "Who gives the rights
to politicians decide if I can have a gun or not?" The Constitution, man.
Democracy gives them this right. And you know that,
because you write law projects. Despite having these rights,
politicians haven't decided you can't have a gun. They simply decided in 2003, before
Bolsonaro ended everything there is, that to have a gun
you couldn't have a criminal record. You needed an explanation
and there were other rules that a good citizen like you
shouldn't fear so much. Bolsonaro defends an ideology. He says that if everyone is armed,
everyone will be safer. Obviously, that's a lie,
like all data show. But it seems like the truth,
it sounds real in this ideological world
we're living. But the truth is that if everyone
only cares about their own interests, shit will probably hit the fan. If one can buy
how many guns they want, the most armed
will rule over the rest. If one can burn
the forest they want, it'll happen
what's happening now in Pantanal. It seems that only 5 farmers, each one doing what they thought
it was best for them, burned almost 20% of the region, one of the most unique and diverse
environments in the world. Bolsonaro himself
made his project very clear in the famous
ministerial conference in April. That's why I want, Mr. Minister of Justice
and Mr. Minister of Defense, that people have guns! It's the guarantee that no son of a bitch
will impose a dictatorship here. I ask Fernando and Moro
to sign this directive today, because I want to send
these assholes a message! Why am I arming people? I want to talk openly
about this matter here. I want everyone armed. Armed people
will never be enslaved. When Bolsonaro says
he wants people to have guns to disobey these assholes, he's not talking only
about mayors and governors that ordered isolation, especially because
they're not armed. Doria's pistol, for example,
is not even hard enough. On second thought, it's clear that he's calling
the police assholes. He wants people to have guns,
so they can disobey the police, that is under governors' command. In practice, this armed population
that hypothetically could be rebelling
against isolation would point this gun to a policeman,
and not to a mayor. Before Bolsonaro's deregulation, if the police found someone
with illegal guns, they could confiscate them
and arrest people even if they weren't using that gun
to commit a crime at that moment. The police will only lose
this power more and more, because it's getting easier
and cheaper to legalize guns. Someone who owns a shooting club can legally keep an arsenal big enough
to militarily rule a neighborhood. If the police finds that arsenal, there's not much they can do. That contradiction
is barely noticed and it's maybe the main one
on Bolsonaro's agenda. While defending guns for everyone
and the police at the same time, he was elected doing a gun sign
and praising the Military Police. But that doesn't make any sense,
because any well-educated policeman knows that nothing can be worse
for the police than a society in which anyone can hold a gun,
have an arsenal at home, or an ammo storage
that is hard to track. What kind of police
will like this? The kind of police that bought
the ideology of militia. I'm not talking
about Rio's militia, I'm talking about this distorted idea
coming from the U.S. 2nd amendment that free people are armed people with the right of forming
well-organized militia. It's the ideology of people like Bene,
who pretends to be a libertarian to create a world where
most armed people can rule. If we accept that,
if we encourage that, we'll be giving up the country
to militias... Not militia in the sense of a mob
that provides gas and extorts traders in exchange
for protection. No. Militia in the original sense
of the word, a paramilitary organization that doesn't integrate
the country's armed forces and doesn't need
to observe the law. That's how we create
a country where guns become mediators
for all our conflicts, turning them into
instruments of imposition. Because guns
don't just kill people, but also every possibility
of a debate or negotiation. An armed good citizen is nothing more
than a citizen that can force anyone to do what they want,
even without using the gun. A gun is way more convincing
than any argument. Maybe that's why people
who don't do researches and don't know how to argue like guns so much. This has been Greg News.