Gianni Russo on Frank Cullotta Denying He's a Rat, Tony Spilotro Hating Him (Part 8)

well you're still working for Frank Costello and you eventually end up in Vegas yeah and at that time and this was kind of outlined in the movie Casino the the mob was controlling some of the hotels and casinos in Vegas which was funded by the Teamsters Union to fund all the loans to build all these hotels so explain to me how Vegas was back then well Vegas but then was run by families every family some had to I mean Chicago had three hotels but st. Louis everybody I mean New York had the sands then two went to Caesars but everybody was all controlled they couldn't that's why there was never killing or any problems in Vegas because the mob controlled it then there was a guy called nicknamed out of Chicago me out of New York we would go meet them in the counting rooms they counted the money before anybody there there was no cameras in there and I was very close to all those guys through the years Mickey Cohen Yale calling all these guys they controlled it and we believed there every Monday morning and drop off money here and there and then we started make making longer journeys going to the Vatican because everybody's catching on to it especially Howard Hughes the only reason Howard Hughes went to Vegas I don't know if anybody in the world knows this he was backed by the United States government I don't know if you know that did you know that no they gave him a large aircraft contract with the understanding the profits from that you stopped buying up hotels because they realized they had to get in to see what was going on they had FBI agents as 21 dealers cocktail waitresses they had to see what the mechanism was then they started to see it and that would still went on for a year or two and then we all got out and then pilâtre destroyed it all Tony Spilotro destroyed that whole deal like God he destroyed New York it's all over well I recently interviewed Frank Cullotta did you uh cross paths with him at all so many times Frank Cullotta are you kidding Frank Cullotta was a guy from Chicago that was with I like how he just walked on every day and he said are you written right out nobody oh okay when you look back at all this cuz you come from a family of criminals being a rat is one of the worst things that you could be and in the mob you get killed for being a rat but you cooperated and would you consider yourself a rat not really I'll explain let me explain that there a rat doesn't informant I made a mistake one time call myself a rat a rat is an informant he works with the FBI local law enforcement for money he likes it he's like who's a wannabe cop I was a federal witness I testified and the only things that I actually participated in that's the difference between being an informant and a witness so I always try to correct people some of them don't quite understand it this is the way I look at it how come you're not in jail you've done killings weed he shot a guy he shot I had a kid working for me I used to do believe this another I used to do a cooking class but I was all through Europe I ain't learnt how to cook I'm not gonna do during to that so I used to train my own chefs I used to go to Jean prison have a culinary class and I take out white-collar guys and then but the share is bus would drop them off dishwashers ever I had the whole back of my house I'd paid nothing I got a write-off on taxes for it no less and this kid worked for me and he always just say you know boys I took a bullet for you for what you did me to change my whole life around when I used to close State Street operated my restaurant nightclub and casino I used to operate 12 hours a day 6 o'clock to 6:00 in the morning and then we go for pizza or somewhere take out people and if it was warm out I'd go to the lingo of my boat and I take some women with me so one day one morning in the Maryland Square Shopping Center there's a big shot I always had great cars Rolls Royces Ferraris all that so I never parked the mixer you know other cause I plucked them in the middle of one empty bottle and nobody's yet but the beat Zabala and I catch at Mi I a car Eiling oh well on the other side of the parking lot and my after war maybe till the middle of the gets of my car and I had this guy Ralph with me and we start walking towards the car this guy comes down as he gets maybe a hundred feet next to me Ralph throws me to the ground and takes six shots and kills him the guy dies in my arms he said he'd take a bullet and he didn't it costs paid off because he my guys the de panne our brothers not we're getting in there cause in the catch and all move so they're firing at that car but spaaaaace want to be in the worst I threw him in its colada out of my club now Kalon is running tours in Vegas to mob museum I love this guy did you know that he has towards going for the mom yeah yeah like I said I just interviewed him you know for those for those that don't know the movie Casino he played one of the one of the characters in that movie I mean he was portrayed as one of those Karen eyes like basically Joe Pesci's right-hand man right was Frank Cullotta in real life you know did you know the Joe Pesci character what was his real name are you kidding that was the end Tony Scott row Tony Tony splotch on his watch or hated me I'm my New Year's Eve when dignity at the Stardust Hotel I unlike the guy from day one and he hated me because he's like John if he ain't getting the attention night you know they always wanted to come come on we're going to meet John at regimes I some going home you know I never got I was always smart enough to stay away from it and I didn't because I'm still here doing everything I'm doing I never slept in jail never had a handcuff on never arrested

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Published: Sat Jun 27 2020