well hi everyone here i am with dr. nathaniel jensen for part 9 in our series of rewriting history and this one we're going to look at the chinese connection to europe to ancient europe i mean it's gonna be very interesting dr. Jenson looking at Chinese and their connection to Europe but before we do that what you're really doing in this series is showing that when you look at genetics and in some of the program's you did look at the mitochondrial DNA it's inherited through the female but the Y chromosome of the male actually is only be used in a much greater way and a broader way and looking at the mutations that you see there and comparing that around the world and the similarities and differences and so on you're actually able to work out relationships and closeness of relationships in history and when you look at all of that it actually fits into biblical history starting with God creating Adam and Eve and then the flood about 70 and hundred years later and then eight people giving rise to people who went through the Tower of Babel and then all the different people groups we see today and what you're showing is that the differences we see in cultures even though they might look enormous when you look at even their style of clothing and their sculptures and their buildings and so on all of that can develop really quickly and you don't have to go too far back in history to realize that these people are much more closely related than we think and so now you're gonna do part 9 part 10 which will be tomorrow will deal with well the pre Columbus time in America in the Americas and that's gonna be very interesting as well I think this is all gonna blow people's minds and again rewriting history but not rewriting biblical history rewriting what people perceive as history that well we're finding out is not quite so so over to you very good and what we're seeing is something that would have shocked me several years ago we've talked for many years rightly about the difference between our origin science and operational science what we're seeing in this series is someone's view of origins has dramatic consequences right now and in recent history how we understand historical events which is still a historical question but how we understand the innate differences how they arise what function they have what sort of relationships they imply ethnically there's there's a tremendous influence of one's origins views and I would argue and we'll see this played out over and over again in this series if you adopt the evolutionary timescale there's a tremendous amount of history that you miss the trans amount of information that you're unable to access with this stretched out time scale for Humanity and these discoveries that we're seeing again this is information you'll find only here it's new research that rewrites so many the stereotypes we've held about who we come from and who we are this is only visible if you adopt the young earth time skill that the 6,000 year and the for the flood but 4,500 year time scale and what we'll see you again and again is this is not something where it's a circular argument and you assume the Bible to prove the Bible it's it's you start with this framework and suddenly the events of known history pop out from the data events that even evolutionists would recognize that they haven't been able to see before because they've stretched out this timescale they've stretched out the family tree and and it's invisible to them so this is all part of the larger question of who do we come from as Kevin's already mentioned there's all sorts of differences among us that we see if you're a creationist and you're watching you know okay this goes back to Adam and Eve ultimately more immediately Noah as his wife his sons and their wives eight people and we know after that there's the Tower of Babel and rightly that we've we viewed this as the start of the ethno-linguistic diversification that we see today there's been a lot that's happens after Babel if you look just at the language side of the equation the over 7,000 languages in the world today there were probably about 70 units language units based on Genesis 10 at the time of the Tower of Babel so God divided people initially that way and there's been even more diversification in language since then there's been diversification ethnically as well and connections among peoples that we haven't seen before and what we focused on at the start of this series and what we'll continue to do is sort of as a general rule is to look at people groups today the connections among them and work our way backwards in time to the beginning and eventually that raises the question of how do we connect to these ancient cultures I'm American and my dad side several generations I'm half German on my mother's side she came over when she married my dad and so I I've got a strong European connection because of that and despite the European connection I don't think of myself as the descendants of ancient Greeks or ancient Romans or some of these storied cultures of long ago because they weren't in Germany so to speak and I don't definitely don't think of myself as connected to the Egyptians or to the to the to the Persians or to the Babylonians because to me they're geographically distant from what I think of as my own heritage yet what we're gonna discover is that this sort of implicit disconnect is wrong and there's many more connections among us than we've previously thought I've promised early on in this series that we would be discovering some several remarkable facts about human history and human ethnic identity that we hadn't known before and we're beginning to see that delivery on these promises so we're still gonna find out that there are such a thing as black white people I don't mean that such that black white people exist Rho various shades of brown but in the popular sense black white what I mean is there's Caucasian people's walking around on earth who think they've had Caucasian ancestors for thousands of years when in fact you go back a few hundred and there's Africans in their family tree and have been Africans for thousands of years they're descendants of African peoples yet their Caucasian today they don't know it we've discussed some of the principles of how this might occur in previous episodes we've also begun to see me and see the delivery on this promise of the fact that most Europeans are recent Asian ancestry not long-standing so-called Caucasian European cultures we began to see that in Episode seven eight with Eastern Europeans and their connections to South Asia we've also seen the beginnings of the fact that genetically European nationalities strong proud heritage that people claim Italian Spanish German those disappear within a few generations going back a few hundred years in the human family tree we're also gonna look at in future episodes the history of the Americas before Columbus next episode we're look at the history of the Americas after Columbus because even though we think of that as obvious and perhaps even boring because we know the history genetics demolishes what we thought was true in a profound way again we're gonna look at it before Columbus as well and once we get back to the earliest parts of human history the ancient history we're gonna examine and re-examine the animals who they were what they represented popularly in mainstream circles they're viewed as primitive part of the evolutionary ladder leading to humans a part of the inevitable march of progress that's intrinsic to the evolutionary model but what happens if you view this through lens of the y-chromosome the biblical framework which has echoes of human history stamped through it over and over again how does that change we're gonna look at that in future episodes and my goal in all of this is that we'd we'd marvel at who we are yes that we gained apologetic tools by which to defend the Bible and if you're not a creationist you're watching that you'd gain some provocative new scientific points to cause you to rethink what you've held to be true but that for everyone we'd stop and say wow this is amazing I've never thought of myself my heritage this way before that you bet you rethink your loved ones and you think of the cultures and people's around the globe differently I think this this casts missions even in a new light yes we go to all the world and there's often culture shock that's associated with going to a new culture once you begin to see people is much more connected my hope is this will transform how we love our day-to-day lives with the peoples that are around us and even those people that are far away one of those cultures that's been far away for so long at least to the Western world and that has a very ancient history is Chinese civilization from the Great Wall of China that was built in part to keep the northern tribes out of China to the great Terracotta Army monument to one of the Chinese emperors to the Buddhist influences on China and they're in dominant religious structures there that's different from the dominant Western religious structures and influences to their language that's tonal and character based so much of China to Western eyes and ears is exotic and decidedly non-western and historically especially if you've you'll notice if you've read the history of missions in China notoriously historically China has been very isolated and resistant to Western influences so part of their isolation is self-imposed and their exoticness is a consequence of that and if you've read his Hudson Taylor and such you know that the the Chinese resistance to the foreign influence was a challenge early on in the days of doing missions there so this isolation would naturally lead us to conclude that when West and East met particularly around the time of the missionaries of the late 1800s Early 1900s this was once again a meeting of long-standing separate cultures yes they may have been connected through the ancient Silk Road commercially but by and large they live their lives separately never the two shall mix until modern technology the modern era and even in the sense there's sort of this echo of the evolutionary inevitable march of progress now finally these long-standing barriers have been erased well genetics takes that idea and demolishes it just to review what we've come from so far we saw in Episode one that the world is smaller than we think you go back a few hundred years there 20 times fewer people alive back then than today and so if you're looking for a spouse and the 1400s you've got a lot fewer options so you can either marry someone that maybe is closer to you a closer relative and we today might be comfortable with or you look outside your group which if you look outside your group this is now gonna start connecting the people groups of the world we've seen that a similar conclusion follows from doing the math of each of our own family trees if I take my own ancestors backwards in time to four great-grandparents eight great-grandparents 1632 backwards it goes you go back 800,000 years and you and I've got in theory more ancestors than are people alive in the globe at the time that can't be true the only way to solve that math problem is to make the branches of my family tree going back just in the a Tierra a thousand years they must connect my parents must be more related to each other than I think you apply that math around the globe this implies that right or so-called racial or ethnic change has happened repeatedly throughout history and happened quickly and we look at the genetics of that in Episode three and seen just how plausible that is we've also seen that if you have two different ethnicities coming together and they have different rates of barring offspring some have more some of less you can get a dramatic reshuffling of the ancestor of these people in theory it's possible most Europeans even though they look Caucasian like me and Ken have had African ancestors and most of Europe is that African ancestors for thousands of years that's theoretically possible we've also looked at DNA clocks and really this is the crux of what we're doing and will be doing going forward there are clocks within ourselves that take every generation this is both a complex and simple fact of biology if we look at how different or closely we are genetically this tells us something about our family tree that the principle is very similar to basic family trees the more DNA I have in common let's say Ken and I have a lot of DNA in common we have a recent common ancestor if we have very little DNA in common we have a very distant common answer so that's the basic principle for reconstructing the family tree of peoples around the globe we've seen that we can't use the DNA that you typically analyze for commercial DNA testing you a hundred dollars and Family Tree DNA and one of these other companies will tell you oh you're this percent European this percent Western European this percent German Irish French Dutch so forth we've seen that that can't tell you much more beyond four or five generations to go back into deeper history after use DNA that's inherited only from one parent otherwise the parent the other parent dilutes the DNA signal very quickly mitochondrial DNA the female inherited DNA the y chromosome the male inherited DNA both of these in the compartments in theory fulfill this requirement we've seen though that it's the y chromosome they male inherited DNA that is the key to human history it's got much more fine detail that we can see compared to mitochondrial DNA both indicate that our family tree goes back just a few hundred generations but it's the y chromosome that's the key and just to reiterate from episodes five and six to go from Noah eight people to the nearly eight billion people alive today is just two hundred generational steps or less so boom boom and you're there and if you try to do that in your head eight billion and trick it down to eight and just two hundred steps you realize you're gonna have to start connecting the tree really fast which means we're gonna be much more related than we think and we've seen some of the ramifications of this theory in practice look looking at the the first branches of the human family tree beginning with the lost relatives of the Europe we've seen that there's connections between Great Britain and India that are probably not due to the arrival of the East India Company in the 1600s on the shores of India this is likely due to the incursion of the Mongol Empire into Eastern Europe and some of this spillover into Western Europe it's then the Mongol Empire then being pushed out by the Russian expansion Mongols going down into India and starting the Mughal dynasty the dynasty that rules right before the British come all these events it appears have connected the people of Europe to the people of Central Asia some of the Middle East and India in the recent past within the past five hundred thirty years this is not something we'd expect naturally it's consistent with history it's a real shock to our senses I want to continue this story of shocking connections between Europe and other civilizations around the globe by looking at an ancient Chinese connection to modern Europe and if you know the history of China if you know the history and have studied archaeology you know the archaeologists speak of cradles of civilization those places around the globe where state formation and the earliest signs of organized society occurred in first example you may have heard of the Olmec civilization in Mexico this is the cradle sort of in a new world you might be more familiar with the ancient egyptian nile valley civilization i can think back to my own high school world history course and we open probably with creation in the fall and and corruption confusion the catastrophe flood and and babble thereafter i don't remember very well them connecting this to Sumer it's like we just suddenly started Sumer ancient Mesopotamia and tell the story from there and part of what this series is gonna do is help make a clear step-by-step link between the events of Babel and the events that we know from world history one of the other cradles of civilization is this Indus River Valley in Pakistan and India the last one though as it relates to our discussion today is the Yellow River Valley Civilization one of the cradles one of the first starts and if you've studied Chinese history you know it's very unlike European history where you're constantly having different groups fighting with each other one replacing the other first the Greeks and the Romans and the Germanic barbarian tribes and the Vikings at some point it's it seems like a continuous state of chaos where someone's ruling but then it's someone completely different China on the other hand has a long string of Chinese dynasties for thousands of years with some brief interruptions so this timeline here from from the beginning now going down through these years to the end is in a sense Chinese history in a nutshell the earliest dates though at that xiè xiè I'm not gonna do a great job pronouncing these not being a native Chinese figure that in the Shang these earliest dates and times are even within the mainstream community subject to dispute there's written records that they're debating whether or not these are actually historical or somewhat mythological right now it looks like they accept the shia as legitimate the Shang is legitimate we're gonna revisit some of these early date in later episodes once we get back to the early earliest stages I want to point out though a few interruptions in this lineage that might hint at connections to Europe around the time that Alexander the Great was going on in his dominant conquest from Greece all the way to the borders of India the Shia dynasty was being interrupted by the spring and autumn or warring States Period this then later gave rise to the Qing Dynasty during which the Terracotta Army was built then the Han Dynasty khana significance around the time of Christ han is significant because many modern Chinese would call themselves of the Han ethnicity following the Han ethnicity this is around the time in Europe when the Roman Empire is being overthrown by invaders Germanic tribes and invaders from Central Asia the Huns invaders from Central Asia we're going the other direction as well in wreaking havoc wrecking havoc in China and this is a period that significant this age of division for several hundred years is one we're gonna revisit shortly the last major interruption that I'm gonna draw your attention to is actually shown as it can as part of the continuous series of Chinese dynasties here the yuan dynasty is actually the Mongol rule of China we discussed in the previous two episodes the Mongol ruled their massive empire from the Pacific to Eastern Europe will they reach down into China as well and rule there for a time in terms of the geography of China so that timeline doesn't tell you how much of these this area of China each of these dynasties rule the one of the early ones the Shang one the second in line there that I showed ruled just a small territory here around the major river valley is by the time you get to the Kean think the Terracotta Army still pre time of Christ still be Sierra their ruling more of the eastern seaboard but not yet the full modern Chinese Geographic realm by the time of Christ and the Han Dynasty it's more expansive the Tang 700 years later you can see it it's occupying a good chunk of the modern Chinese Communist Chinese realm even though it by the late 1500s you still don't see the full geographic extent of modern China it's the late 1800s where you see the Qing Empire dynasty ruling over not just modern China modern Mongolia and then of course today we have Mongolia as a separate country Communist China it's its own country as well to understand not only the political history but the genetic history and this is one of the areas of our investigation overseas some really significant overlap the factor that I think plays the most dominant role in all of this is the geography of China this is a somewhat exaggerated map of the globe but helps highlight some of the key features especially as we think about eastern Asia that play a role in the history of China so I mentioned earlier you think back to missionary history around the late 1800s there's resistance to Western influence that is a long-standing practice in China and geography is one of the basis for it so let's look at what constitutes the the geographic elements of the modern Chinese realm you'll notice here in the West is this massive uplift this Tibetan Plateau the borders of it represent the Himalayan mountains the tallest in the world in the North you have the Taklamakan desert both deserts and very high altitudes are not conducive to human flourishing we can survive there but it's not a great place to grow a lot of food and support a large population so not surprisingly even to this day you do not have very many Chinese people here the billion people in China are concentrated in the eastern part and it's the eastern part of course you can see here is green fairly flat that has the rich agricultural potential and that's been the long-standing sweet spot for China this feature not only discourages human occupation it discourages invasion so part of the reason I think China has been so isolated for so long is the geography that protects them from foreign influence actually it's the combination of protection and fertile river valleys that allows them to focus on self strengthening and other inward focused movements so this protects from innovation from India and and you can see it played out in history you don't see any history of India invading in China or vice versa there's too many Geographic barriers in the way even though in terms of distance as the crow flies they're fairly close it's this that says sorry you're not gonna get the army across it so that never the twain shall meet go around this way you run into water jungles this is not a very promising path to get into China of course if you go south and east it's lots of water which is again a great barrier especially in pre-modern times as a barrier to invasion historically where China has been vulnerable has been invasions from the north now it's not that there's a whole bunch of fertile valleys up here this is essentially Siberia it's bitter cold but the nomads that have roamed Central Asia raised horses were you know raised sheep and we're always looking for pasture and eyeing the rich valleys down here of course then had a military interest in getting into China from the north and China built with Great Wall in part to try to keep them out so this isolation which I've said politically so this geographic isolation I should say which we've seen has strong political ramifications political isolation we can also see reflected in genetics so yours is sort of an exception to the rule we've seen the beginnings of European intermixing with people's around the globe or what we're gonna see here in China is a strong isolation at the genetic level as well the thousand genomes project that we discussed previously we're gonna look at the family tree based on it again but this time focus on these royal blue stars they looked at five East Asian populations Japanese Vietnamese in three Chinese populations the Han Chinese in Beijing the Han Chinese in southern China and the dye minority group here in southern China as well you'll notice on this family tree that space it and I haven't taken all 1,200 men from the study has taken about 500 representative individuals you can see there's blue down here blue here but there's a great big chunk of blue here in the middle and that's where I want to draw our attention first this particular section of the tree has the biggest echo of Chinese Geographic and political isolation you can see just how much of the screen is blue this is the oh hello group now I didn't give the name for the for the the subgroup of the tree that we discussed last time I'll discuss it shortly here in a moment I just want to describe here the system this is not so that you have to remember it every time I'll say the names the letters the designations each time we discuss it so that we're all following I'm mentioning it more so because I'm sure there's some folks watching who've done genetic testing them even it may even have some information and what y-chromosome group they're in well you can now begin to use information we're discussing to say okay this is my heritage this is my ancestry these will become useful to you and especially for viewers who now might be prompted to go get some sort of genetic test especially a y-chromosome test this will begin to help you understand who do I come from Who am I who are my ancestors so this particular section of the tree is called oh the major branches of the tree subdivisions near the beginning made mainstream scientists have given arbitrary single letter designations and so this branch you can see it's its root is back here and then it starts flowering into this branch this branch these branches down here this is all considered oh now the system then for labeling specific sections of the tree is once the the major branch starts subdividing then you add in numbers this might be a 102 Oh three well this branch up here then is now subdivided into this this and this so this section might be Oh 1a and this is Oh 1b and on and on it goes you keep adding letters and numbers as it gets subdividing so you can know at a glance if someone just gives you that the name designation where you are I want you to see though the individuals presence in this tree and just like we saw for Europe there's a whole multiplicity of them all five East Asian groups are present Han from Beijing China Han from South China Japanese Vietnamese as we scroll down some more we're gonna see the dye minority group notice although that just like we see for Europe within a short time all these various ethnicities come together these various countries come together you lose national identities very shortly at the genetic level you can see then green there there were some there are some South Asians Bengalis from Bangladesh I think those are probably a consequence of the Mongol conquest we're not gonna discuss them further because there's such a small percentage of the total already I want us to focus on the big picture ramifications here for East Asia there's the die again the Vietnamese and on down you go a whole bunch of East Asians so that's the right side of the tree the more recent history where people come together ethnicity is disappear just like for Europe I want to now draw our attention to the other side of the tree where this all starts this is a fairly deep branching tree and you can see this branches off from another major grouping all the way back in a thousand BC so why is this significant well this particular group o represents over 90 percent of the 1 billion people in China today massive representation over 85 percent of Vietnamese over half of Japan so I said China is isolated what's also significant is what you don't see you don't see Europeans you see hardly any of those those dark greens South Asians no Africans no Native Americans this is the living representation of thousands of years of Chinese isolation their geography keeps invaders out their fertilizer over valleys keeps the people in and you see that reflected in their genetics an ancient isolated history well why would you talk about a connection to Europe than an ancient Chinese connection to Europe what we've seen so far is that at the political Geographic and genetic levels there's strong isolation why might there be a European connection based on everything we've seen we wouldn't expect a European connection and if that's the assumption we carried into this we'd be right in thinking that but if we gaze deeper at the tree you will find out that once again these these logical assumptions turn out to be wrong so I want to draw your attention to a section of the tree that has both blue and gold and is the basis for an ancient Chinese connection to Europeans this is what called the M group again just an arbitrary letter to designate a deep branching structure of the tree let's zoom in to see who's on it this particular section of Europeans is dominated by Finnish people I'll give you the percentages for various groups in a moment you can see though as well they're connected to Beijing Hana Hana and Beijing China some Vietnamese there's again another South Asian individual in Indian Telugu I'm going to be residing in the UK again my my my assumption is this is probably due to the Mongol conquest we're not going to talk about it more right now because my focus is elsewhere this particular group of Europeans in this case dominated by finished people breaks away from these East Asians around eighty six hundred that's a date we'll keep in mind in a moment as we go as we look back at Chinese history now I want to emphasize again this is research in progress so these are dates that are round numbers take it with a grain of salt that may revise as we get more and more data in as we get a better sense for where exactly in the tree no is I've got it narrowed down to a small region I don't know exactly where precisely in that region Noah isn't that affects the dates slightly but we're gonna go with the data that we have at the moment and in terms of percentage representation this particular branch of the tree represents a whopping 60 percent of Finnish people in this study we're gonna see in a moment that it represents about a third of Eastern Europe as a whole it's also strongly present in Siberia and it's got a gradient of percentages in China now again 90 percent of China more than that is this oh group so this is only a small fraction yet within this small fraction there's a geographic gradient that represents a clue to the origin of this branch as well as to the origin of the connection to Europe so we've seen a connection to Europe why in the world does it exist and how in the world did it come about this is where I'm gonna go to the other study that we discussed the thousand genomes was wide excuse me I should say it was narrow and it focused on only 26 different people groups and then deep because it took 50 people from each on average this phone is wider because it samples many more were ethnic groups but shallow and then it takes only 2 to 3 men so they give us different windows into human history I want to draw our attention again to this group n which in this study because it has Siberian peoples you'll see there's a lot of pink showing up your intermixed with the gold we're gonna zoom in just so you can see who these individuals are now if you're like me most of these names wouldn't have mean much some time ago because I haven't studied Siberia until I was forced you recently because of their because these DNA connections and you may have never had to study this as well so just so you're aware there are Vanka people there's jackets Mongols might be familiar this but again in pink this is all basically groups in Siberia modern Russia but not necessarily ethnically Russian - Vinny ins people in the tundra even some of these Eastern Europeans because they're ethnic minorities in Geographic Russia and other Eastern Bloc countries aren't as familiar they're present here as well the Morris the Beppe says the Odin words Mars and on it goes and here are some of the others in the tree you can see there's even an occasional middle Easterner that shows up these might be more recognizable the Estonians Latvians former Russian Republic's the Sami people are the very North Scandinavians so again a heavy Eastern European emphasis because the this particular study did a lot of sampling in Eastern Europe and also looked at Siberia which they're lumping Mongolians into this Siberian group now I'm drawing our attention to this particular study because there's a clue and in the groupings among these people notice that if you draw a vertical line right about here it naturally divides this tree into a cluster of Siberians and pink a cluster of Europeans cluster of Europeans cluster of Siberians Europeans another big cluster of Europeans and a cluster of Siberians as if this is a point where they they kind of form their own branches or where there's a split in terms of dates this is around 1600 if we think back to the history of Russian expansion that we discussed previously I found a very intriguing correlation the Russians move from west to east from around Moscow eastward through Siberia to the Pacific in the 1500s and 1600s there in Siberia so the correlation between the dates for Russian expansion and the intermingling of European and Siberian lineages seems to fit this history and naturally suggests an explanation for it doesn't answer all the questions though even though there's some intermingling that's consistent with Russian history the question still remains who do these people come from are these ethnic Russians that moved into Siberia and then became the ancestors of modern Siberians or is it the reverse Russians came in and said intermixing with Siberians and so by Siberians became the ancestors of modern Russians if we go back to that tree from the thousand genomes study the Finnish connected to a bunch of East Asians down here in royal blue I have a hard time seeing how the Russian expansion could explain some sort of East Asian connections Siberia and sure those are geographically there but East Asian that makes me wonder now here's another clue that if we take this particular branch even further back that I think reveals what the answer is this particular group that I'm labeling n finds as its closest ancestor group oh that thousand BC points that I said is the beginning of this group Oh 90% of China and basically only East Asia as ancestry ancient ancestry with a group that also contains East Asian peoples and Europeans and Siberians and I'm saying this state as this particular data set shows the split between the branch leading to Europeans and the branch leading to the East Asians around 600 and remember from the other study there's a whole bunch of Siberian groups intermingled here so my suspicion is given the connection back here - oh is that these are Asians in origin probably Siberians perhaps those who are Siberians that were close to China and intermingling with them and eventually became a intermingled with the Russians and other Eastern Europeans because of the Russian expansion in recent history so is there anything in history Chinese history that might tell us about interactions between East Asians and Siberians or northern northeastern North Central Asians that might explain what we see here thinking back to the history of China again the invasions tend to be because of the geography from the north it's hard to get into China from the west because of these does hi mountain barriers hard to come in from the east because you have to throw all your army in a boat then invade from this direction if you can come around from the north this way though and down now you might have a path in and and trying to recognize this and builds a great wall well 600 AD is around the period of the age of division remember again this is the age in Europe where there's Central Asians coming in and overthrowing the Roman Empire the other side of Asia in the eastern part of Asia not only have the Central Asians invaded China during this age of division they are ruling parts of northern China as dynasty heads so even though the Chinese that the great wall was erected to keep them out they were sitting here ruling parts of China and likely intermixing with them originally a Siberian Central Asian and origin here there intermixing with the Chinese and it's at the end of the 500s early 600's that a southern Chinese dynasty the Sui dynasty moves northward and kicks the Siberians the Central Asians out which would then presumably stop some of this intermixing the specific people group of around this time is the xianbei linguistically they have connections to central asia this seems to be a good candidate explain what this particular branch represents they come out they Central Asians morphologically in terms of appearance look rather Asian we'd say in terms of their ethnicity we looked at their deep branching it looks like they share a common heritage with the Chinese in ancient times they've been intermixing with the Chinese at least of the six hundreds and then they've been sitting up here in Central Asia Siberia for some time eventually the Russian expansion happens and the intermix there this again represents 60% of the Finnish a third of Eastern Europe a good chunk of Siberia and even though it's just a small fraction of the Chinese it there's there's a north-south gradient and I think this fits this explanation as well the invaders come from the north they're sitting here in the north not the south intermixing with the Chinese and the southern Chinese come up and kick them out and so you'd expect the southern Chinese to be less intermixed than the northern Chinese and the Han Chinese in Beijing up here in the north have a higher percentage of this ancestry than those in the south so I think that fits the history as well regardless of which specific historical event is tied to this what we've seen though is this end group looks like it's Central Asian Far North East Asian in origin which means then that the data we learned and the conclusion to reach in the last two episodes that a third of Eastern Europe has Mongol ancestry this is the branch on that's that's typically called r1a and again it's just it's a the major branches are it's subdivided into Group one and then subdivided further into Group A we're going look at our or one be in the next episode which is heavy presence in in Western Europe but I want to focus on the Eastern Europe for the moment the third of Europe is in this branch which is Central Asian in origin a third of Eastern Europe is in this end branch which is Central Asian Siberian and origin which means a full two thirds of Eastern Europeans have recent Asian ancestry and looking at a particular end branch which has more recent in the 600's 500s connections to China also an ancient connection to the dominant lineage in China Eastern Europeans by virtue of this particular branch also have a genetic connection to ancient China so we're beginning to see now at least in Eastern Europe that the majority of these people even though they may look Caucasian look like me and Ken and their genetics have a recent Asian origin this is not so if we'd expect to see but this is part of the new history of the human race shocks from genetics now that we can see them and have the right time skill in hand conclusions we can reach that we wouldn't have reached otherwise just focusing on the political history of people groups around the globe and dr. Jenson if you think about the evolutionary history supposed evolutionary history going back to you know Out of Africa idea and as many volved and so on and we're looking at how long ago they say mani bolt out of africa 200,000 and 300,000 years ago incomprehensible amounts of time right when you then look at that and you look at the genetic differences and the short amount of time it must have taken for those differences to arise looking at that from a scientific perspective there's no way what you're saying fits with an evolutionary history just doesn't you just can't fit it all I was working on preparing the the presentations we're talking about the pre-columbian history and reviewing what the evolutionists say about the history there they say for them it's a very late event an arrival in the Americas 15,000 years ago in evolutionary terms but the first civilizations are out in 1900 BC in their timescale and it hit me they say they came over and then basically did nothing for 11,000 years and then suddenly civilization started and I just scratched my head and said how does that fit anything we know about the world we just sit there and do nothing for 11,000 so your Sun suddenly humanity boom explodes and in here we are today but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me and it struck me in a new way and I think that applies not just to the Americas but all around the globe hundreds of thousands of years of basically nothing and then civilization explodes in the last 3,000 that just doesn't quite fit my intuition no it doesn't fit it all well we look forward to part 10 and part 10 tomorrow night and part 10 you wrote down as the hidden history of Americans that's gonna be very interesting looking at before Columbus and actually this after Columbus yeah and before Columbus and then in future episodes before Columbus we're gonna we're gonna take the bull by its horns this is gonna be very interesting okay we look forward to pod 10 thank you again dr. Jensen