GEN CON 2022 Backtalk LIVE

[Music] [Applause] [Music] ah i'm wendy i'm mike d'alessio i'm z garcia camilla cleghorn chris you're the least rocking out person here he's wearing his gun she's in a metal band come on bought a t-shirt chris had hair down to his waist he had it already yeah legitimately when i first met him yeah it was long okay well we're talking about gen con we'll do it we'll we'll unpack that later need a little more time to unpack that anyhow so it's just us kind of giving us our thoughts and things on on gen con we might answer some questions um but just we all went uh who here went for the first time and went for the second time that would be me and the rest of us i can't i can't get a bunch of times no then around we can know well mike mike used to live in indianapolis he's our local tour guide um i used to go fishing over in that creek and i'm like i don't care yeah i was definitely fishing all the time but i did hook us up with some good restaurants so those meatballs were rocking that place was amazing let's just spend the next hour or so talking about uh the food shall we yeah maybe blues we'll start there and we'll work our way to a place called i like the food but i will say gen con is a tough place for food if you want to eat at the convention center it's terrible it's busy well yeah first of all no one needs an adventure today a lot of people do like disagree did you i got a salad every single day does anyone ever visit the food trucks i went to the food chain once i tried the food for way too long yeah no the food was i thought the food was phenomenally good i just thought it was long and expensive yes anyway so that's our food dog there you go that's all of it do you want to talk about food oh i went to the slippery noodle and have amazing burgers slippery yes slippery noodles the oldest bar in indiana it was really good is the burger made out of i had a vegas burger with like uh like shredded like beef on top of the burger cigarette butt yeah cigarette butts were great and the blues brothers were out there where did the noodles come in this one there was no noodles i was confused anyway we did not eat someone else if we had santa almost we did not because it's expensive but we didn't introduce the shrimp cocktail because you get it harry and izzy's too a few people here can you is there a way to make the thing a little wider the the comments for us older folk oh yes i can and is i'm using the right word what is your what is your general feeling on getting horseradish up my nasal cavity yeah um it's mostly negative no i'll be honest yeah it was uh nothing i wish to ever repeat i think worse though than the horseradish of the nasal cavity is the horseradish and the eyeball you're not supposed to push your finger how did that happen oh the doctor told me to keep putting out of my eye well someone here was was a jerk anyhow anyhow so that's why it wasn't all this and clarify i know someone is gonna put that that's the mustard mustard please it was it was me i had a shrimp flop out of its its place it splashed a little bit of that sauce across the table a little bit it was like a one in the middle of that oculus rift so gen cotton this year they just announced the numbers was up to 50 000 people did you feel the crowds i did i've seen some people say oh it wasn't that busy but it was significantly busier than last year which is definitely a different con they're different kind of this to me felt very very much like pre-coveted conventions in the in the amount of kind of density of people the only difference is that i do think the hallways are a bit wider still than they used to be before there's not quite as much of the getting checked into the boards by someone's gigantic backpack as there have been that definitely happened to me several times it still hasn't happened because i heard someone say they felt like the walkways were bigger but that was before the crowds had come in do you think the carpet was wider and there was more spacing between boots definitely yeah there they also leave a few areas and intersections where you can kind of cross and you never used to be there yeah i do know that some like one of the booths didn't get all of their stuff so they shrunk their space and they just filled it in with carpet gotcha yeah because they weren't able to expand as much as they thought because one of their pallets was missing there was more missing booths than i've ever seen yeah at least six people didn't show up probably yeah for sure and it's funny because the booth's next to them go can we use that spider-man guy's like no nope really not a chair well i mean it's i would come i would be tempted to complain if i had it if i paid for a 10 by 20. my neighbor had a ten by ten the ten ten and exit them didn't show up so they got it for free i might go well that's not fair i think that's what why are they offered like a fifty percent i think there's a parable about this oh no i get that boy i'm just saying i'm using the box on the horse i'm using me as an example that's actually very relevant but i'm just saying that's why gun doesn't do it it creates a level of unfairness you happen to be next to something someone's not i don't know um booth booth space that we got this year was really loud oh yeah it's good although a lot of people told me the hard time finding us because the main aisle comes directly to us and then a booth or two got in the way of that so people to go around yeah we're not gonna throw a devier under the bus but no come on guys it was definitely blocked but there was a red cathedral involved oh wow now we're blaming games in specific games if you've watched if you watched our vlogs de vere was in our vlogs quite a bit because they were always there early which was kind of fun oh they're great neighbors yeah they're like state farm they were right there always there you're saying they're people they care they were they were fun whenever we got a booth at gencon or anywhere i always look to see who our neighbors are because that is a big deal because you're you're staring at them a lot like osprey was right across from us that was nice we liked them to beer we were also next to was it goliath i was really confused because it said square enix where those candles ended up setting up oh and so i was like oh cool square and then it wasn't it was candles that's true i don't know what happened to that that's right i saw the sign from spanish but they weren't like dark mage candles like some of the booths got rearranged i remember walking by a booth that said you know bicycle car booth is now at 11 27 or something interesting okay because i went by the bicycle car booth and later i saw it again and i thought it's on the corner now that's weird i thought it wasn't the first time i just thought it was forgetful yeah i know for some reason that shipped around yeah you're you're normal it was a magic trick what did you guys think about the gigantic double decker ebay thing that was the booth they crazy up yeah i also didn't speaking of ebay they were handing out free copies of a game i think it's called buy it now or something along those lines that apparently is designed by jonathan gilmore and one other designer i can't think of it but established game designers they were handing this out for free at the convention a full fledged game they have their names on the button i don't believe their names are on the box that's why i didn't know until i found out afterwards um so that's interesting we have a copy here for the you know we'll we'll look at it if we have time you know only the gator dave said that the deveer guys were in the booth area in our videos that's enough to get their own dice people that's a very very good point yeah um so everyone the number one question we're asked other than how are you doing is you know what's the game of the comments people always ask that and we always are like we have no idea i mean at the end of the con even now i'm sitting around trying to figure that out but what do you think people talked about the most um cat in a box yes yeah yeah yeah planet unknown scout i just i i still disagree with that people ran for plan on it sold out and then that was the last i heard of it turing machines machine they sell that every day they said their line got longer every single day yeah twice like say like people talked about twice and decent oh yeah i'd say that um ahoy because people didn't i didn't hear as much about that one well it's because people didn't know it was there they said before the show that it wasn't going to be there but they were able to airship i guess just a few few copies so they were able to sell some on thursday and then i believe again on maybe saturday the mornings of both so they're the best secret game of the cod maybe my father's work is another one but it was they didn't bring a lot there and they were gone day one a lot i think a lot of selling out happened a lot of you know sellouts but not a lot of uh shipping issues shipping so a lot of games i think were supposed to be huge they're only a few hundred copies there it's also hard to gauge i i know that that um the isle of cats he's his by day two his stock was gone so there were a lot of times they were having to i think board and dice did a similar thing with terra cotta army where things that were out early they gave some kind of a thing like hey we'll give you free shipping and you know you can use a special code so they did that for terra cotta army a pre-order with free shipping i know that uh yeah the isle of cats did a thing with free shipping and a pre-order code so i know portal sold out of brazil brazil yeah very quickly that's awesome arcanova map packs yeah those are very bad guards nobody might have been one of the hot games of the con honestly that map yeah that map had you saw it in almost i i feel like everyone came up to the booth you know carrying a bag yeah all right you see it's like poking out the top yeah another little one here was first rat they the thing is it's because well i don't want to speak out of turn i think that had they known the demand would be there they would have brought more but i think maybe they were a little taken aback by how much demand there was for it um because it was gone relatively quickly so i know pegasus stole that a lot of this stuff yeah they were very happy i think sure i was surprised um the marvel dice throne still had some of the kickstarter ones available yeah yeah i was surprised that didn't sell out oh they had a lot though my word that was just fine they did they did it was a small booth too was it a ten by ten very tiny yeah and they also had some uh kickstarter radlands they did yeah that's awesome the the roxley booth was a 10 by 10 and there was about three square foot of standing room for the for the employees there and they sold it was tiny yeah and they had marvel dive stones stacked up taller than people and then eventually over the the con days you would see like oh they have more standing room the thing is good i don't think it was an official roxley booth as odd as that sounds it was not an official roxley booth it was they knew what was being sold from what i understand but in years past rockleek roxley has had a big dedicated booth with all their branding and everything this was a small 10 by 10 corner booth where they were really only selling a few titles of roxley games but the hot ones right yeah i think that they the main rocks that people weren't able to come or well i don't know why but had other people kind of like uh stone mirror will do with meeple source sometimes you know have happened kind of actually people source had stone meyer stuff yes yes they do the wine parade for viticulture they had a nesting box i didn't get a chance to go over there and look at that but a single version that you could look at for the the new wingspan did anyone see did they sell a lot of those wine crates yes because i only saw the first day and it looked like it looked like they built a miniature golf course yeah and it had like a mountain they had them in like a cage yeah and then they'd more on top yeah i filmed a little overview that i think well maybe this weekend will go up or something for that wine crate we also saw um a lot of uh some booths in the back got swamped so 25th century had a very long line yes because people wanted the green team wins but also they were showing off rodger this hasn't even delivered yet it's like a bow to i think so there were very early copies there and they got sold out too people were mentioning that in the comments those are gone yeah that was one i was really interested in and i didn't get to see it and that's something that happens this can be somewhat controversial uh not just a gen con i think although i think it happens maybe at gen con more than like essen where games that are crowdfunded small numbers of retail versions of those games are available before the background now i can tell you there were at least three games that i am currently backing that i have not received that were there my personal opinion this is only me i don't have a problem with that right because these are not the big huge publishers also many of them have been like open about it in their kickstarter update saying hey look we've got a few copies of these we're going to try to sell so but that is something that's controversial and i always wonder how it's going to be you know kind of taken by people it's an interesting thing because like the publisher wants to be able to be at the con and be able to sell a thing and be able to try to get the word out gen con's a huge way for the publisher to actually like build some buzz about the game themselves and keep themselves publishing games right by the same time they want to like fulfill their backers first too so it's like a weird thing yeah yeah what i will say is that a lot of these companies don't make huge profits right they sell a lot of product anything that's really hot and air shipped over you know here's 500 copies if they sell through all 500 copies of it they might break even right because gen con i think is what you said it's about generating interest right almost more than it is making money i'll just go ahead and say it probably more than yeah or air shipping something in trying to like very quickly turn around and get a few of something there i know is very expensive right yeah it definitely caught cuts into any profit you're making on the game itself just to have them there and that's happened in the past where a company will bring some in sell through that way faster than they thought maybe even on the first day and then airship more for say saturday or sunday that's a big hit that's a humor so just to have something there some product yeah sam asks what was the coolest looking booth good question keymaster always has a great looking booth that's probably me my pick too theirs was decorated with um what looked like you know like basically framed uh pieces of artwork from parks yeah and then they had the grass they had a little booth that looked like a park a sort of you know office or something they're wearing their little part range or outfits yeah it's small right but it really stands out it's so well manicured it's inviting yeah it's really well done and it was right there next to the everdail one which had the big trees and all that right and so i thought that was cool to have those back-to-backs you have the parts and the grass and just that whole middle area right there it was very um doors yeah it was way in the back but i thought the iv booth looked great too oh for sure it had a very like dark rich theme was it woodworm it might have been woodworking yeah it was beautiful who are the people at dice tower east the um dwarven forge yeah they have a really impressive booth more i agree with like the keymaster is so inviting i really like it but like some of those over-the-top set pieces yeah yeah are incredible but i don't want to build one ever nor tear it down no but i mean you guys are like you're not mentioning the really cool booze i mean it's yeah oh we literally walked through that room fine we just missed the truck yeah you saw me okay no but the monster truck was really cool it was cool you could take a picture with it they had the game set up there to play i really like that the game looks interesting nice looking theory really was really that i'm the only person talking about the monster truck but all right it wasn't smashing anything no i liked the mail truck though i don't know how they got a mail truck like legally stole it no they know the u.s post office provided it did they really rented it or something i'm really surprised that that usps game is an officially licensed you know postal service product but it's big potato which that was basically the usps has to do something for relevancy needs any positive press they can get yes we'll give you a truck would you like a job if you're counting stuff outside of the convention hall i mean if you want to cheat like that then the funko uh room is really nice they've got the demo area and they've got another product along the walls there that looks very very uh professional and inviting uh so that's nice um uh in the back one of the things that was a hot games booth was ghost galaxy um oh yeah yeah because he had some stuff that we didn't know was gonna be there like right the twilight imperium codex that you could get and then tons of key forge but not just key forge they had all the crown demand stuff yeah a print on demand where you can play through key forge as a solo or cooperative version right they had this product that uh they said had been made available in the past as a print and play when the game was still in fantasy flight hands but had never been printed i mean you know officially so they acquired the rise to that and did a print-on-demand packaging of that looks very good yeah you know the card quality is a little different from the standard uh trading card game or any cardio but yeah they had two of those uh that they were selling and they're cooperative like you say you can take any deck of key forge cards and play against that and solo with a group i'm very intrigued very cool those twelve codexes me and tom were looking at him we're like how can you even play with this it's a bunch of stuff you have to print out a bunch of stuff that you'd have like figure out weird ways to import into the game but the fact that ghost galaxies had it actually available they can upgrade some of the cars like gives you like the errata card versions of them so upgrades a bunch of sad there's like there's a whole bunch of action there's like a whole new faction actually the game lots of extra like cards just in general lots of upgrades like me and tom went through and like upgraded the entire dyestar library set with just all the current stuff i will say it's i thought it was pricey i would read the amount of content you got i thought that was as much expansion right i thought everything there was pricey right it's all print on demand type stuff and just just to reiterate because loopy here might not be the only one that's unfamiliar they did pull key forge with fantasy flight because they had an issue with the algorithm but it has since been relaunched with ghost galaxies well it's about to be about to be relaunched yeah yeah so it does come in the game speaking of print your own did you guys see the terrain guy that like you could make your own molds that's a kickstarter kickstarter is he really yeah oh okay that starts kickstarter in a couple months it was super cool because he was like mixing liquids and then you pour it in that was allowed cut because it was super like it was like i saw the alchemist was he actually pouring residue yeah yeah yeah he's curing right there the whole night yeah it was super cool did you have like a mask definitely definitely definitely deadly poison no he did not he was like allowing you to do it as well so it was definitely like yeah get it on your hands and you're like i was like step on up cute actually i just like the way it is is the board game tables area i like how they have those demo tables there and they've got someone that is pretty much manning all of those demo tables and i like the product all over that looked great that was cool-looking that's a good-looking board game tables you might not have even realized it was their booth if you walked along the back side because there was a 20-foot tall wall of bags yeah yeah which are great bags i saw several people carrying those bags i hope they sold a lot we i really like those bags yeah they're great um the you mentioned earlier that some of the dice booths look neat there's a lot of nice booths yes a lot there's always a lot it's like every time i go to gen con chessex is always there and chessex always has three booths they spread that's crazy they're still there and then there's always been one or two deluxe dice booths i think there was ten they were always one of the nicest babies for sure a lot and they were all busy all the time i saw people picking out dice constantly yeah d and d is a thing it's huge sure heard of it so two booths i really admired because i mean they they're just so large they had a lot of demo tables that i thought that was cool was pandasaurus and the op so like they're they were running demos of tons of stuff the stream is sponsored by that things yes yeah the thing i'll say that the op did which is a complete copy and rip off of us is they had a dice rolling competition they if you rolled up if you rolled a yahtzee they had four they had five giant dice if you roll a yahtzee on sixes you want a copy of marvel dice throne oh that's gonna get the two rerolls people won no you just you said five sixes yeah they're all the ultimate man taking out any of them away that's a crazy odds pull out your calculator 1 out of 2 000. there you go there you go that's it are you sure there's 50 000 people everybody rolls down what we were giving away for a specific face though one out of 2000's a little at rounding out but yeah no no no if i roll if i roll five fives you get no nothing oh that's one out of like 12 000. thank you right i mean that's insane also stop making up math yeah or maybe i mean i watched it for a few minutes i was like nobody's getting it you know yeah and then i tried and i didn't get it oh man yeah it's weird for me did anyone see the parade yeah i walked right into it i was uh just strolling in at one point i took a nap in the middle one of the days i walked back in i saw the entire all divided in two and i thought i have to cross now they didn't do it last year and uh and that's a lot of people really love the parade there was a lot of things that they had stopped last year i love that the parade is like something was like very like chintzy cosplay right beside somebody with like amazing cosplay they put ridiculous amounts of hours into it's just kind of funny did you have a favorite cosplayer um i saw someone who did the uh the like frog people from um the mandalorian and it was really good really good yeah that's cool i saw a cloud uh the cloud from final fantasy vii and he looked really awesome his hair was like those solid spikes like it was really cool 46 656 possible throws that's good out of fifty thousand people oh if they all went and rolled uh and the stats technically yeah i mean is that permits wild combinations yeah i'm not 100 sure that's that's accurate because it that might be divided by six actually okay because anyway i'm not sure you know what it doesn't matter it's not it's it's it's rare it's a lot of crews asking about the parade anybody who wants to be in the parade basically you can just dress up and you just walk through there's no as far as i know there's no requirements you can just walk into the parade the part that's weird to me with the cosplay i've always found odd is that one area right outside the exhibit hall where they stand there like in this bubble of space yeah and take pictures and they're just kind of it's almost like i'm looking at mannequins at a um an apartment store and i move and it's just but i tell you though i think it's a great idea because they didn't do that a few years ago and then it was like people getting in the way and you're constantly having to like should i stop do i wait for people to walk through the hall yeah yeah so i like that they do that i did feel bad when there's multiple people out there and like everyone be going to one person the other person is just like standing there chilling yeah anybody want a picture when we were eating lunch that one day we're just sitting on the ground oh the monster yeah the monster on stilts he looked awesome yeah he had like a huge hook hand that he uses like a third stabilizing walking thing yeah he had a speaker system so it was like playing music kind of music and stuff around it he had one of those like uh like from batman the scarecrow mask thing that the scarecrow character wore it was like look like a bag with like eyes cut out of it kind of thing for like two seconds yeah that was probably the most impressive cosplay so i don't know what it was i made eye contact with somebody one time and they asked if i wanted to picture them i said no oh man that's awkward really they asked you like would you like a life because i made eye contact i've never smiled like do you want a picture you never smile at all like never smell no i don't know with their camera i don't know there was this cute kid dressed like hey you want to take a picture with me and i was like no wait they wanted a picture of themselves and you wouldn't yeah well i don't know like that you're wearing cosplay yeah you shouldn't have dressed up you look just like camille from the dice tower that's great cosplay what did we think about our booth and how we how did we all like it i don't remember who was like how does that sponsor this show so you say what you want i don't remember well it may have been my idea if it was this is gonna sound terrible i like the tv the tv was great talked about that like three years ago but you know what else this was i think roy's idea of the tv was great clearly you know what else was mike's idea was uh the the maps the playmats getting signed oh that wasn't my idea that was really good that was really good we've done it before but not like putting it like hey we will sign this for you on the thing that was really fun we're really glad everyone came by yes we really appreciate that um the show itself that was you know we've talked in the past that our best audiences have been at acid and sometimes our us audiences in march today that was not a sedative they were into it that was a lot of fun there was one guy in particular who was hanging up the whole crowd but that was a very noisy that makes our show a lot easier to do right now you guys are noisy and yeah yeah and a couple people have asked if we're posting that on our channel and he's going up sunday so it's already been ripped down it's already been edited it's going to be uploaded so did the audio get better yeah it's a lot better way better that's cool so it'll be better than if you watch gen con's live stream i thought it was better than if you were there but that i don't know about that's probably true or not the show was great booth was great getting to meet so many people was fun yeah pretty much whenever i was on shift at the booth i was usually at the dice tower trying to get people to roll you know three of a kind to win a little prize that was fun one of the things we always say is like we're always just sitting here in front of a camera and it's always we can have the live chat and stuff like that but it's always hard to know like who's there but so awesome just have so many people come up to us and be like oh i like your stuff oh chris i love your things oh mike i love your views i love your stuff your team is awesome it's just so different to like have people like come up to you and actually like interact with you all the time you know just see the other side of the camera right yeah the other thing i thought was really cool is that gen con is you know it's kind of an international show but i don't think it ever felt like more of one than this year i had so many people from other parts of the world come up and say and it's just you forget sometimes you know that there are people from all over the world that that watch what you do and it's really cool to see this hobby just taking off in in areas that maybe it hadn't before so that was neat i think all of poland likes the ice i don't think you're right yeah south america a lot of people from south america came off and it was great it was really cool if you want your country to get a shout out come up to us and say very these things that's right hang on we got peru spain puerto rico chile puerto rico um finland yes oh yeah poland yep i'm gonna forget something new we definitely did you say peru already peru yeah yeah um mexico mexico yeah um canada yep counts nebraska totally different country we somebody's about sam we did see sam there we all said hey he was only there i think for half the show yeah so but we were able to say hey and talk to him for a bit um oh did i did i not put him in the in the vlog some of the some of the transferring of videos just on the spot there not everything went through but yeah we did we did get to say hi to him for a little bit it was really nice yep all right i mean that's uh we'll take a couple questions and we're going to shut this down before we uh go because we got live live plays there's lots of things there mikhail says that he's waiting for mike's german shepherd game do you ever get that oh it's still under development it's going through really intense prototyping and play testing right now so well nick says is there anything we missed that we would have liked to spend more time with or booth or anything i mean always i think just demoing in general i don't know i didn't demo i think i didn't demoed one game i demoed two i think i definitely like one i got a lot of overviews mm-hmm like i think four or something like that but you have to purposely sit down and do it it's nice when you get like the knock full demo like a really short one i don't know that helps with knowing about the game i would have liked to have seen uh splendor duel or whatever it is mike saw he said very played through a four things yeah that's one i would have liked i've seen didn't really do a lot of that that's that's a big one demoing yeah i played wore the ring the card game so with one of the developers and that was a lot of fun so demo to one round uh so bezier games did a really good job of demoing cat in the box they had several tables set up i thought this was really interesting they had some of the people there had like a little earpiece microphone thing and a small speaker yeah i've seen people do that before and that would save your voice so much yes you know it's a loud haul and you're demoing at the same game over and over and over again so i thought that was really cool agreed all right uh let's see somebody mentioned how does this compare to other us guns how much does this compare in terms of prep work meetings hmm this is our most we'll take our own cons out of the equation because those requirements yeah this is the most work yeah by far i know this because we do packs we've done origins well origins was more work when we did the live streaming there sure because that required that but right this is our biggest booth we have to all get there there's that's basically what it is the bigger the booth we take more stuff there than we take anywhere else and just all of us getting there and then there's more people there so to meet all the people i need to meet they say what there's 530 booths yeah i don't have 530 hours um i don't know 530 half hours i don't even have 5310 minutes segments well the fact that we know our live show is going to be like really big there's a lot more pressure there i feel well maybe it's just me but i'm just like ah i gotta make sure it works great you know so yeah because you're running it yeah yeah oh roy i'm super sad about bruce is there is that what nerd point yeah oh yes strong bad was there that was hilarious we put in the vlog right i think we did yeah i saw the footage that you took of it yeah there's another person here who doesn't really know where no i'm almost drunk stronger i have a deep emotional connection with strength do i not care it's actually the other direction i think this is an age thing when i when i look at strong about i hate everything about you sound like a grandpa right now yeah you can't just because you don't like them doesn't make you older but we're saying we like it and there's you're saying it not only am i neutral i dislike it get off my [Music] i didn't actually talk to them because they were demoing a game but i was like they were doing the voices and all that game coming up right yeah i don't necessarily have a whole lot of faith in the game but it was kind of cool to see that there yeah i would like to see them but the percentage of winners and advice are rolling i did the math well i did the math i asked jeff engelson to do math for me ahead of time and it's one out of five would win when i changed dice it went a little lower than happened that much it might have been one out of six maybe a little bit i thought there was a lot more wins on those dice i don't know it's just that there would be streaks sometimes it's just math you know the i noticed there's a lot of wins when i wasn't there i come back when all the prizes go yeah yeah that's how it works someone's giving him out for everything yeah it was fun though when you switch to a whole like two d20s uh and eight six and a four or whatever because when someone rolled a three of a kind and they rolled like of like fours on both of the twenties and a four and the four side to die you're like that's really good yeah yeah yeah i never saw no one person got the three swords that was the okay i said they could have anything they got two stuffed animals for that one wow juice stuffed animals yes what well i was giving away all the stuff now i get that you also gave it to kids if they've got two of a kind right no i would flip the dye over so it was legit you did yeah totally because it's hilarious and the parents love it they love it the friends they give you high fives you gotta learn how to be a little bit more subtle no right no i want the parent i like i want them to be excited like oh that guy gave us a thing and then come back and subscribe now i want them to actually get good and win well you just said that earlier there's difference in between children and adults okay what would you like to see differently something different well with i'm slightly vague i like to see return of normality yeah um yes but gen con is expensive i mean look we this like i said the show's not sponsored by gentiles we but i really do like the show but it's expensive it's very crowded i'm still not thinking i still don't think it's worth going to the stadium we do every year we're like let's go look at the stadium we're like kind of cool there are things that gen con that people are being priced out of not just games but true dungeon costing eighty-eight dollars a person yeah we'll never go i don't wanna go i can't afford eighty-eight dollars an hour that's that's i'd rather spend 88 hours on a meal you know i'd get two hours worth out of that right and food yeah that's true i would rather buy a boarding game which won't last much longer than the meal people like that but i feel like it's probably that also we've seen there's not a lot of used stuff at gen con anymore yeah i haven't missed that booth very much this year i kept looking for it and it was always sort of in that same area it was cute at one of the stuffed animal booths they did there was like a small little display of like dead ccgs like was a few but it was mostly like really outrageously priced uh it was not really i was this close to buying a one dollar pack of the austin powers cctv though yeah yeah i i'll show you a place online you can get it very cheaply i'm assuming they still have them um there was a booth there near the back that is a place online they're like a you know a website you can get old dead ccgs fairly cheaply and they had a presence there but it was a different booth than the one that's been there in the past and has just the spread of all this old stuff that i really like looking through yeah that's cool and this will sound a little personal towards azmoday but i wish asmode's booth wasn't so big um as buddy's booth is gigantically huge and they they don't use it i lose a lot so much dead space it's weird there's also all these demos tables and something like you can't find that in hall three and i could see another 30 40 small publishers the small publisher area is really dinky at this point it is i mean not that something there's a lot of trash small publisher type stuff right i don't know i that that felt weird and i would go up there and the crowds are immediately gone when you went to rasmus day yeah because there's just so much space there's nothing to look at i never thought that was wasted when it's on too because on the on the back side of the asthma dave it was kind of hidden from like a lot of the hot stuff they were like demoing the new of a rosenberg atiwa game and they're showing off like genuinely exciting things but they were like almost hiding no fanfare yeah at all you're right they had the tokaido duo there uh there are a lot of things that yeah you wouldn't know it if you weren't like either stumbling across it or actively looking for it yeah but i mean for the most part i had a good time we're very tired mm-hmm it's a very tiring convention more than any convention other than essen for me i think it was physically exhausting just like standing so much um you know on the hard floor and stuff like that it was very physically draining maybe yeah i'm a right very outgoing person but yeah just that much noise and that you know that many people like it's nice to get away for a little bit and then kind of come back to it yeah i would have to do that a little bit here and there also thank you to everyone here putting the blogs together and i want to say thanks to chris for editing you know tonight everyone asked about that so that was great and we'll try to do that in the future and things this what we did there i don't plan to change dramatically for the future we really liked what we did who knows what will happen next time anyway if you came by and said hi to us thank you thank you if you didn't come by because you were at home and watched our stuff online also thank you so much until next time i'm tom vassell i'm roy kennedy i'm wendy yee i'm mike delecio i'm z garcia camilla clegg horn i'm chris gee and now roy will press the button [Music] [Music] you

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Length: 41min 44sec (2504 seconds)

Published: Thu Aug 11 2022