Game Theory: FNAF, Golden Freddy... NOT What We Thought!

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Finally! Golden Freddy being the thumbnail makes sense!

👍︎︎ 93 👤︎︎ u/Coleymon97_ 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Man some people in this sub still got venom for matpat don't they? Wild.

👍︎︎ 45 👤︎︎ u/NinjaZaku 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Meh on the idea that Cassidy isn’t GF but he gives a good summary of the book and once again people are blowing things up into “MatPat bad give upvotes”.

He mentions literally zero about DevonHell where are people getting this from.

👍︎︎ 31 👤︎︎ u/randomperson654 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Actually loved this video! The summaries were good as usual, his ideas on 1:35 AM and RFOM were interesting and made sense, and his New Kid speculation was also great, he brought up a lot of interesting points that I've noticed for a while but barely seen anyone discuss.

👍︎︎ 59 👤︎︎ u/SmearReddit 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

...he's... actually legitimately learning! Also, the fact he might even be suggesting Golden Victim/Golden Both is...thank you

👍︎︎ 41 👤︎︎ u/At_Witts_End 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Matpat bad!!! Me no like Mikebot!!! Freddit assemble!!

Seriously Matpats theories aren't always right (cough cough Mikebot) but he's a genuinely good guy and his videos are always entertaining. I don't know where freddit got it's Matpat hate boner, and frankly the hivemind is kind of frustrating. Matpat has helped play such a big role with scott even directly communicating with him yet people dismiss his ideas instantly because some of his theories are shakey.

👍︎︎ 47 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Jesus the comments on this subreddit make me want to bash my skull into a wall. You guys really are blissfully ignorant aren't you. If anyone actually took away DevonHell from that theory I question how literally you take stuff.

As for the theory itself, I'm a little bit mixed on it. I think the connection from Ella to the other books is a bit interesting. And I actually think it's possible that these books are somehow connected to the original trilogy of novels.

Henry literally cried into the Ella doll which gave it life. Elizabeth literally says that the doll was brought to life from Henry's agony. That's what William was after in that whole book. He wanted to know how to give something life without using a soul. Or more specifically, he wanted to know how to give something agony and make way for his soul to go inside it.

Eleanor is very similar to the name Ella. And in TFC Baby is the fourth version of Ella. Is it possible TFC Baby is actually Eleanor? That would connect all of these stories and explain why this specific Ella that Delilah has is cursed with agony. Henry put his sadness into the doll. He literally cried into the doll and that's how it was brought life. I think there's a possibility that these Fazbear Frights take place after The Fourth Closet. Why would Baby even die by the blade from the suicide bot if Charlie survived just fine? Maybe I'm looking into things too deeply but it's definitely worth considering.

I disagreed with almost everything he said for Room For One More. That story wasn't a parallel to Ennard at all. It's a parallel to Night 4 of Sister Location where Minireenas "crawl inside a suit" that's big enough for one person only. It's not possible that they climb inside the suit if Mike can barley fit inside, so it's more likely they climb inside his mouth. That would explain why we hear the sound of guts on night 5.

Warning this next part is super speculatory. If you don't like ideas that contradict your own, I suggest you stop reading here cause I'm about to go into Speculation Land. None of these ideas are fully fleshed out, so beware.

I've also made the connection between Kelsey and TOYSHK before, but it's still very confusing to think about. It's clear Matpat does not literally think Kelsey from The New Kid is Golden Freddy. That's impossible as this is most likely in a different universe from the games. It's all about parallels. And what Matpat pointed out was a parallel between TOYSHK and Kelsey. And I think there's more merit to that than one would think.

It's clear Kelsey has some tie to Golden Freddy somehow. He's not just some random kid who got springlocked. I think it's possible that he's a type of projection from Golden Freddy. Or he's actually a spirit tagging along with the curly haired kid.

That part about Cassidy and Kelsey both possessing GF really got me thinking. And it got me thinking about the amount of victims William claimed.

First off, in the Toy Chica Highschool cutscenes she kills 7 people. Those cutscenes are an obvious parallel to William killing the kids as one of the victims is lured in by using a dead dog to the kid's advantage. That's literally how Susie died. So if this is a parallel to the original murders, why are there 7?

Charlie, Gabriel, Fritz, Jeremy, Susie, and the child who becomes GF (Cassidy, but I know that name makes people angry), all make sense, but why a 7th victim? I originally wrote it off as just something meaningless. Maybe it's Mike who knows. But there are 2 other times we heard the number 7 be referred to for dead people.

In Into the Pit there are 7 dead bodies Oswald sees. Not 5 or 6, but 7. A little weird sure, but in Curse of Dreadbear the number 7 is used again. There are 7 gravestones in the place where you go when you die.

Could this 7th child be a parallel to Kelsey somehow? This would make the term "The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" make a lot more sense. There's supposedly 5 missing children plus Charlie. So this 7th child wasn't supposed to be killed. He wasn't supposed to be killed because he's not mentioned anywhere. It's always 5 children for 5 robots. What Animatronic would this 7th child become? It's possible him and Cassidy (oh god I said the C word) both became GF.

This would explain the curly hair. It's a parallel to Cassidy. It isn't literally Cassidy, but it's her from an alternate universe of sorts. Cassidy literally means curly hair. This is just a parallel to connect the name Cassidy with Golden Freddy.

These are all just spitball ideas btw. I'm still debating what to think, but I do think the idea of 7 victims is an interesting one. And I hope it gets answered in Coming Home.

👍︎︎ 38 👤︎︎ u/shrekthe1st 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

The theory is more of a recap of the 1:35 AM stories while also connecting them to Sister Location (1:35 AM & Room For One More) and questioning the identity of Golden Freddy (The New Kid). It's certainly interesting and, in my opinion, one of MatPat's better theories, if not the best so far.

👍︎︎ 28 👤︎︎ u/Tenebrae_Vesper 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

First of all, I enjoyed the video. I'm kinda bummed he's doubting GoldenCassidy, but... that's the second thing.

Cassidy or not, the idea of Golden Freddy is still the same. The fifth missing child. I know FNaF lore is never easy, but what exactly can make some theorists doubt about the fifth missing child being Golden Freddy?

👍︎︎ 16 👤︎︎ u/BlueX16 📅︎︎ Jun 13 2020 🗫︎ replies
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let me come home with you is there room for one more did I come home with you let me come home there's room for one more [Applause] hello Internet welcome to book theory because if you have one moderately popular indie smash game in your franchise chances are you also have yourself a ten installment book deal that's barely an exaggeration bending the ink machine three with more promised on the way hello neighbor six heck it's a surprise that baldies basics doesn't have an entire trilogy dedicated to the horrific backstory of the jump rope girl no joke at this point in my life I'm reading more video games than I'm playing but of course today we're not talking about any of those other franchises we're talking about the grandpappy the one that paved the way for all those who would dare to follow in its footsteps five nights at Freddy's and it's eight books as well as it's too graphic novel reimagining of the first two books but here's the best part of your friends true to this franchise the books were supposed to end at Baz bear frights number 5 we're currently at fazbear's fright number 3 the end was in sight that was gonna be it that was the end of the line mystery over but oh no my friends of course not now there are two more final installments announced just like every game after three I used to joke that the fan was the scariest part of this franchise oh no not anymore dear theorists now it's multi-platform merchandising so fazbear's fright number three titled 135 a.m. just came out and hoo boy there is a lot to talk about with this one if you'll remember Scott has made it pretty darn clear that this new book series is meant to help us solve the mysteries from the past and that the stories are as they say in every books official description hold from all different corners of the final or but unlike the past two fazbear's fright books where the connections have been a bit looser I suppose is the best way to describe a time-traveling ball pit that leads to a scene of some 19 85 pizzeria murders the stories contained in this one in 135 a.m. all feel very strongly connected to welt like I just said every corner of the fine afternoon the stories here are starting to show how they're connected to not only each other but also how they're connected to the original book trilogy and yes how they're even connected to the game's creating this elaborate web of complicated animatronic death but more than anything else these books are starting to confirm things for us theories and suspicions that we've had for the better part of the last five years which you know it's kinda nice to receive some level of validation like I said it is a lot to cover and so I'm gonna cover this one like I've covered the last two books today's episode is gonna be dedicated to a general overview of the stories spotlighting some of the most important details for theory crafting and explaining what I think this new batch of stories is trying to tell us about the series's mysteries and then the next video we're gonna be doing a deep dive into probably the biggest mystery of all three books so far nafs' newest Killer animatronic the stitch rave this guy is actually really interesting and his story is starting to weave through most of the nine other small stories that we've covered in these other books and what he means might actually have some severe implications for not just the original trilogy of novels but also the future of the games like I said more on that next week but for today let's start with our title story 135 a.m. this one is pretty straightforward Delilah is a young woman with a tragic backstory her parents both died when she was 11 at which point she was bounced around and abused sadly in the foster care system for years eventually she finds a stable home and happiness with a man named Richard they get married and Delilah excitedly looks forward to finally having a child of her own so she can finally complete the family that she never had everything is going great in her life until Richard divorces her now she's alone and sadder than ever and then she dies trapped in a ventilation shaft after being tortured by the embodiment of the child that she never had children's entertainment ladies and gentlemen okay so I may have skipped a few steps there but it's roughly the idea one day Delilah finds an animatronic doll named Ella at a garage sale a doll that reminds her of the child that she always dreamed of having quote with brown curly hair big dark eyes and plump pink cheeks the doll looked almost exactly like the baby Delilah had envisioned having some day with Richard she'd been sure that she was gonna be a mother so sure that she'd named the baby before the baby was even conceived her name would be Emma Delilah reached for the tag that hung on the dolls wrist my name is Ella Ella so close to Emma Delilah felt an odd tingle slithered through her body and she buys the doll in part because it reminds her of her almost never child and because it has a built-in alarm clock emotionally scarring with the sight of functionality just the way I like it anyway she sets the alarm inside of Ella for 1:35 p.m. to help wake her up for a shift at work but the alarm doesn't go off and just like that Delilah gets her first taste of parental disappointment so she does what any good parent would do in that situation immediately hurls her would-be child into the nearest dumpster yikes Delilah maybe it's better that you and Richard didn't have that kid after all anyway that night she's awoken at 1:35 a.m. by Ella Delilah assumes that she accidentally set the alarm for a.m. rather than p.m. which reminds me of the time I didn't bother to set the clock right on my Tamagotchi and was forced to scoop his poop every day at 4:00 in the morning I can't imagine why he died certainly not my fault anyway she tries to find the trashed Ella doll but can't and from that point forward is slowly driven insane by the doll waking her up every morning at 1:35 I mean you know 135 is still early enough at night to get a decent night's sleep snot a 3 a.m. challenge or anything like that but whatever yeah knowing that she'll never feel safe again she climbs into a ventilation shaft in a building under construction and dies quote from the book she'd never wanted things she wanted love oof it is a heartbreaker man the stories in these books so far have been pretty sad but this one is just tragic in fact all three stories from this particular book are just rough now this story has two really important details in it details that seem to make Delilah's horrific struggle a strange nexus point for both the original book canon as well as the games so let's start with the books first in 1/35 am the ella doll is described as a quote helper doll manufactured by fazbear entertainment continuing forward with that quote the booklet had a list of what ella was designed for she could keep time and serve as an alarm clock manage appointments keep track of lists take photos read stories sing songs and even serve drinks sir drinks Dalila shook her head now in the games we never really get to learn much about Henry the creator of the animatronics but in the novel trilogy silver eyes twisted ones and forth closet we get to meet not only his daughter Charlie but also some of his other creations including wouldn't you know it a doll named Ella who is built to serve tea from the silver eyes novel quote how it sailed Ella on her track a child-sized owl bearing a teacup and saucer in her tiny hands like an offering end quote now across all three novels we never get a solid physical description of the Ella doll but in another book the Freddy files which collects all the main information about the franchise we do get to see our first illustration of the doll and wouldn't you know it everything matches the description of Delilah's little garage sale fine from 1:35 a.m. vote again wearing a puffy sleeved 1980s era bright blue full skirt a dress with pink ruffled trim and a big bow around the waist end quote it's the same doll meaning that this first story is happening in the novel timeline after the events of forth closet somehow this is the dowel that Henry created for his daughter Charlie who I need to technically remind you is his daughter because again remember his daughter died at a young age he replaced her with a series of four robots that represent Charlie growing up at various ages so Ella technically is an early version of his own daughter figured I'd throw that little factoid in there since you know this is a real and totally valid plot point from the novelized series of events in this very easy to understand series that's not all while I was reading the story the way Delilah decides to hide in the ventilation shaft felt really strange to me like why it was super random but also was one of those things that felt so oddly specific that it felt like it had to have had a bigger purpose so I dug around and found this for you for your consideration I present to you night two of sister location so funny story a dead body was found in this vent once okay so could Delilah be that body that was actually found in the vents of circus baby's entertainment and rentals but probably more likely it's alluding to that story from sister location rather than directly the same one you see in the book we're told that Delilah's vent is in a site that's under construction a three-story structure that feels a bit like an office building sister location meanwhile takes place in an underground facility underneath a residential home so it's probably not the same building at the same time though the story makes it clear that Delilah was drawn to this place quote the answer to her plight was in here she was sure of it someplace here she was gonna find a way to escape ella forever end quote time and again throughout all of these fazbear's fright stories were shown people being drawn to the freddy fazbear locations through some supernatural force so could Delilah or whoever died in the vents of sister location have been compelled to come there and this story is just giving us a hint as to how that happened maybe and whereas the Delilah sister location connection might just be me reading too far into things that certainly isn't true for our second story room for one more in this story and stop me if any of this sounds familiar Stanley is a night guard at a mysterious underground facility full of little ballerina dolls looking to escape to the surface ding-ding-ding it's like in one sentence we just one finger each night he falls asleep on the job wakes up to find a mini Rina doll on the desk asking to go home with him Stanley falls asleep again and when he wakes up the doll is magically gone over the next few days his arms start to swell his throat starts to bleed and yet he keeps going to work keeps finding dolls and keeps falling asleep eventually he learns that the dolls have been crawling into his mouth while he sleeps causing his body to swell to the point of bursting the end the moral of this story kiddos be a good employee don't sleep on the job otherwise little animatronic creatures are gonna crawl into you and make you explode from the inside out what's also interesting about this story is Stanley's dreams each time he sleeps while on duty he has himself a strange dream in the first fun time foxy is a cab driver in the second the facility's power cuts off and he comes face-to-face with funtime Freddy and in the last one entered is a dentist and Bowl ora is his dental assistant which I would say is one of the strangest things to ever appear in this franchise but then again I turn your attention to this corner where we have time-traveling ball pit anime foxy Andy ray chica wait this one is pretty obvious right Stanley is working at Circus Babies entertainment and rentals at underground facility from sister location and the dowels crawling into his mouth are parallel to entered using Michaels progressively decaying body as a skin suit in that game secret ending I think this story might be trying to give us a more realistic interpretation of those events or something that more closely matches what we see happening in those ending cutscenes that instead of Michael being scooped and having a skeleton removed and all of that at the same time that our protagonist Michael instead is being slowly filled up with animatronic pieces night after night giving him that progressively sickly look that scares all the people around him Stanley's story even mentions this quote he staggered and stumbled down the sidewalk passers-by stared some seeming worried others just annoyed like it inconvenienced them to see another person suffering which feels right on point with how those cutscenes were depicted in sister location but okay over the three stories in 1:35 a.m. it's Story number three new kid that's the most exciting to talk about at least for today's episode because this one gets to the heart of what is still to this day the single biggest question of the series and that is the identity of golden Freddy let me tell you I thought we have this one pretty well nailed down that it was Cassidy ak8 a vengeful spirit from ultimate custom Knight and yet this story well it causes me to question a few things about our conclusions first let's go through a quick summary Devon is a ninth grade social loner alongside his only friend Mick one day a new kid in school named Kelsey shows interest in spending time with the two of them Kelsey is good-looking he's charismatic he immediately attracts the attention of all the cool kids in school and even though Kelsey Devin and Mick all get along his friends eventually Devin gets jealous of Kelsey because Kelsey has everything that Devin wants and so to get some revenge he lures him to an abandoned Freddy's restaurant long forgotten at the outskirts of the town his plan is to trap Kelsey in a spring lock suit for a few hours to scare him but well do you know what's gonna happen the shear mentioned a spring lock suit immediately gives you a spoiler alert as to what's gonna go down Kelsey puts on the golden Freddy's suit and gets skewer alive whoa the blood saturated the bears matted fur in seconds and began pooling on the floor Devon's stared at the moving blood it looked like it was a living thing a thinking red liquid lakes stretching out and cold Mick and Devon leave Kelsey for dead for fear of Devon getting in trouble but they're not quite sure he actually died nearly a week later Devon is convinced to go back and check on Kelsey but when he does he's in for a surprise kelsey is vanished Devon eventually sticks his hand inside the suits mouth to feel around for Kelsey's slumped over dead body only for the spring-locks to fail again and crush his on as Devon lies on the floor trapped and slowly bleeding to death he gets a final glimpse into the suit and well let's just say what he sees inside rocks the foundation of what we know about this franchise quote Devon wiggled in one more attempt to free himself the mouth opened even more and Devon got a sudden glimpse inside the suit gasped down low passed his arm Devon could see a body a dead body just like he thought he'd find when he came back here to check but it wasn't exactly like he thought he'd find this one had curly black hair the body in the suit wasn't Kelsey now there's a lot of weird things about this story that I don't quite have answers for but I do have some thoughts about first and foremost is the ending you see the book doesn't end with Devon's death like you'd expect it actually continues to a final scene with Kelsey alive and well as the new kid at school introducing himself to two boys it seems at a first reading like this should be a flashback to when Kelsey first meets Mick in Devon at school like ah this was the fateful meeting that would eventually lead to multiple of their deaths but it's not this is Kelsey at a new school meeting two new boys in the story Nick meets Kelsey first and then brings Kelsey over to meet Devon and it all takes place in a classroom this closing scene meanwhile is outside the front doors of a school and the two boys Kelsey introduced himself to are less social outcasts like Mick and Devon and more like bullies we're expressly told that the boys are snickering at the passing kids even Kelsey's first line to them is different it implies that Kelsey has somehow lived on after his hoes its spring-trap death in golden freddy and now he's the new kid at yet another new school introducing himself to two new kids and the way that this final scene is written with kelsey scoping out the two boys from afar before he approaches um it feels like he's actively targeting loner kids to make friends with could this be Kelsey's attempt to befriend kids that most overlooked and then lure them back to a Freddy's pizzeria for some tragic incident to happen it seems like it would be a stretch but let's talk about Kelsey himself mr. perfect Kelsey is a weird entity in all this throughout the story there are moments when his behavior is specifically called out as slightly off quote from the book Kelsey tilted his head and studied Devin for a couple of seconds for those two seconds Devin had the weird feeling he was being evaluated and again later Devin was tempted to stab Kelsey to see if he was a robot kids don't say stuff like that once they're actually at the pizzeria things go is surprisingly smoothly for Devin's plan the line in the book even goes like this quote this was going even better than he imagined he thought he was gonna have to talk Kelsey into trying on the golden Freddy suit but it looked like he was gonna do it all on his own it was like it was meant to be all of it seems to cast some level of suspicion on Kelsey's true motivations and that's without me even mentioning the fact that his body just goes missing at the end of the book when it has been skewered and bled to death to me it feels like Kelsey may just be our vengeful spirit from ultimate custom night in the story Kelsey is described as having wavy blond hair and blue eyes now we have a pretty solid idea that its hair is straight with the slight waves and it appears to be blonde but here's the kicker this image was created by inverting colors it's what gives it that blown out and kind of creepy appearance if you invert the colors of the vengeful spirit size you get blue just like Kelsey is described in the book and it would fit the idea of a vengeful spirit a kid who is angry about his own death perhaps in an accident like we see in fine a form or in this particular story looking to get revenge on other kids who are similar to his original killers he goes from school to school presumably ones near fazbear locations to somehow trick kids into getting killed by the suit the parallels with vengeful spirit even go to the moments right around Kelsey's death in the book this is how it's described and the sound wasn't the bad part it was bad yes but the bad part the really really bad part was the way the suit started jerking and a [ __ ] horrific dance it looked like the moth-eaten mildew blotched gold bear was convulsing but it wasn't the bear it was Kelsey it's remarkably similar to the final cutscene from ultimate custom night where we see again an angry golden Freddy presumably filled with the vengeful spirit twitching off into the darkness also worth noting is that the spring-locks suits are apparently big enough for kids to slump down into the body Devin when he initially can't find Kelsey's body inside the suit decides to dig deeper down into it quote and Kelsey somehow slid down into the suit was that his hair that Devin could see this to me confirms what we see in a storage room cutscene the strange tuft of hair that's coming out of the body of the suit back then we weren't sure what this was trying to tell us what that tuft of hair was meant to be but now I think we can safely conclude that it is indeed a child stuffed into that body and that we're only seeing the top tuft of hair poking out it would seem to imply that there was a victim before the bite of 1983 and that the crying child was somehow aware of at least one if not multiple of past victims shoved inside the suits but all of this brings us to the obvious question of this story the curly black hair at the bottom of the suit who's that and honestly not sure Cassidy which is what we've been assuming to be gold and Freddie's name this entire time does indeed have black hair but it's always been described as long and straight in the forth closet we physically see Cassidy and she's described as this quote that's Cassidy a girl with long black hair and in the survival log book where we first learned of Cassidy's name there's this girl who as long black straight hair that's something worth pointing out for as chaotic as the story in this franchise has been for all its iterations names and hairstyles and colors of the victims seem to be fairly consistent Suzi is always associated with her dog she has blonde hair with curls and blue eyes Cassidy always appears to have straight black hair frits always has freckles the names and the faces of the surrounding characters may change but the missing children all seem to be fairly consistent in both name and physical description which is an important detail to keep track of moving forward so could all of this mean that vengeful spirit and Cassidy are two separate entities that two spirits might both be in possession of gold and Freddy or that Cassidy isn't really associated with golden Freddy at all and is instead the identity of one of the other animatronics because in Forth closet she technically wasn't the one who was associated with golden Freddy honestly I don't know I need to actually review the evidence for this one and I encourage you to do the same the last thing worth mentioning for all of us to chew on is the mysterious slithering that's heard throughout this story well the boys are exploring the abandoned pizzeria they hear something inexplicable in the walls quote they were in the bathroom Devon was pretty sure he heard something slithering through the walls he didn't say anything from the way the other boys faces paled he knew they heard it too they didn't mention it even it's never mentioned again nothing ever comes of this strange little detail but it's clearly important because more inexplicable strange sounds come from the Freddy torso after Kelsey dies in a later quote did you leave anything else you tried to ignore the fact that the scuttling sound was coming from the bear suit now this is after Kelsey has already stopped squirming and twitching so again we're left with some mysterious force moving around in the pizza Rhea creating these sorts of sounds is it entered is it the stitch rave is it something else like I said lots to chew on with the particular book but as he can tell it's given us pretty explicit information about some of the biggest questions that this series has had now it's up to us as always to put all those pieces together and there certainly are a lot of pieces that'll start coming together next time as we start looking into the power of agony and the twisted timeline of nafs next newest murderer the stitch rave so make sure you hit that subscribe button to get notified of when that video comes out next week and in the meantime do me a favor remember it's just a theory a game theory thanks for watching [Music] you
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