Full Throttle on The Voodoo Banshee! Trail Test Riding on Pump Gas

check it out guys i made this custom air box for the voodoo banshee well technically i didn't make this i actually made it it was a group effort with me and a couple of my friends we made it at a machine shop so actually it was a pretty sweet process so i'm gonna take you back and i'll show you how we did it all right guys so check it out i went to my buddy's machine shop called stouts customs in ottsville pennsylvania and we worked together to make this custom air box the first thing we're making here is the rear bracket to hold the box in place shane's hooking it up we're making a mount we're making uh the mounting tab for the air box on a water jet we just designed it on the computer [Applause] so this machine literally uses super high water pressure mixed in with a media almost like a sandblast type of material and it will blast right through the metal we're using one tenth of an inch thick aluminum right here and you'll see it cuts it out no problem but they told me that this thing can shoot through up to six inches of solid steel which is absolutely incredible [Music] i thought it was going to be like splashing water all over the place [Music] wow [Music] dude that's unbelievable [Laughter] [Music] that is unbelievable that would take me like two hours to cut out and it would not be as nice wow shane you ever put your uh you ever put your hand in there not yet i don't want to try either so [Music] mocking this up right now shane's about to tack it shane's a savage with a welder just remember there's gas all over this thing it's supposed to smoke but not that much [Music] once we made the bracket for the back of the air box the next step was a little bit more involved what we're cutting out here is the intake bracket so this is the actual intake portion that goes right up to the carburetors and the reason we're doing this in the first place is because the plastic portion on the oem style air box just didn't line up properly so this will have all the corrected angles and it should be pretty nice there it is air box mounting plate shane master machinist and fabricator been making all kinds of stuff today to make the intake tubes i used an intercooler kit this is the same kit that i used to make the snorkels on the maverick and it worked out perfectly and it's actually going to have better airflow than the stock system as well i think we can make it work though bring that bring the right side pipe up to match [Music] people are going to want to buy my air box you're going to have to see this guy should have better flow than stock this is the stock one it's like a brick wall yeah the air runs right into that wall this has a nice divider once all the bike marks and it's lighter actually probably not probably about the same i think that was my uh my pants [Music] [Applause] so yeah and you're not paying much tabs are in the back so you don't even have to take the plastics off go right underneath take the bolts off you can slide the box we literally engineered this so that it's easy for tuners so huge thank you to stout's customs my buddy shane and also my buddy matt also known as mechanical hulk between the four of us we probably spent about 10 hours getting this thing together this video clip is really quick a lot of planning and design went into this and we also had a couple prototypes until we finally had a design that fit up perfectly god so uh yeah so as you can see i mean it turned out really nice when i got it home i used my porting tools and just smoothed out the inside all the welds and everything so it's just got really really good airflow nice smooth transitions and then i just gave it a nice coat of matte black i think it looks really good that corrected all of the angles and it fits up really perfectly really really happy with the way that it fits in the back because my frame does not have the tabs that are normally back here i shaved those off of this air box and it's just it makes it really easy to service it and just slide the airbox right out of the back in fact i'm going to install it with you guys i'll show you how this goes in give you guys a close look at this thing before i go putting it in i've got yamabond on both sides sealing this up this is a unit that'll probably i mean i don't ever intend to separate this so it's all sealed up should be really good it's made of 6061 aluminum and this intake um this duct here that's actually an ebay part it's like a copy of the pro design for this for the uh the k n style filters but they're plastic which is actually what i wanted i feel like that's a little bit lighter than the billet aluminum and then in the back here got some stainless steel hardware the low profile so super big thank you to matt and shane for letting me use the machine shop there and helping me out matt did a ton of the welding and everything he did pretty much everything really really appreciated it just it came out really nice all right now i'm hoping that you guys can see how this goes in it literally just slides right in the back like so go right around our wire harness which that i think i may extend or do something about that because it kind of gets in the way but it literally just fits into place like so it fits right in the boots and i'm going to take you around the back to show you how it bolts up so from the back it's going to use these two existing points on the frame and literally it slides right into place like that and then you can pull all you got to do is take those bolts off and the in the box just pulls right out which that should make it really easy for jetting now this is the v1 so there's some improvements that could definitely be made i think the most cumbersome thing is getting the air box clips up top before you push it in and realistically i may not even use the air box lid but once they're up it's no problem boom and i just throw my bolts in place and even if you had a different exhaust you could always just stack the exhaust on top of it it wouldn't be quite as clean but you know anytime you do something like this it's a custom setup for you know that specific machine all we got to do now is tighten up the boots and the air box is installed oh and the other thing i did i wish i would have showed this before there's little rubber bumpers in between the box and that shock mount you can see the box is resting on the rubber so with that set up there should be no excessive wear from you know the box jumping up and down when you're hitting whoops and stuff putting stress on the boots it should be a nice solid setup you can see how it fits in there really nice clean design you can get the air box lid on there even if you wanted to run a regular lid you could do that and i believe it's it's pretty much in the oem spot you can see the little cutouts in the plastic for the tabs now we can put our filter in here and honestly you could run it like that just fine without the lid but i'm gonna put the lid on there at least for now we're going like really overkill with the air filtration here i don't think this is necessary this lid is it's pretty heavy i'm kind of it was expensive too it was like 115 bucks or something i don't know if i would recommend or get this again i mean i'm sure that it works it just seems really overkill and it makes it a little bit difficult to fit everything in here it's a tight setup for sure and then there's actually an outer wear that goes on top of this as well it's a lot to clean too when you come back it does look pretty sweet though i gotta say and now i don't have to worry about sucking up water on the trails because i've had that happen before and it's no fun oh yeah all right here we go we're gonna go for our first little test ride here this will be like a little tune session still running on pump gas so we'll see how she stays how the power curve is and everything i think it's still a little bit peaky i'm basically right now maxed out for dome size like the smallest i can go and still it's like borderline safe for pump gas right now so we'll see how it goes and uh it's just gonna be cruising today this is also the first time riding uh on my i guess new shoulder so i had a full uh rotator cuff repair um in december about a little over five months ago so we'll see how that feels today too so we'll be riding with jay today um if you guys followed the channel like way back in the day uh jay's been around for a while he's like one of my longest riding buddies longest time i guess uh he's on rmz 450 today jay's a really good guy he's always got me laughing black and tall oh yeah that's the most i've had it opened up yet man man is that full [Music] i feel bad for jay this thing probably roosts really bad so down low it's still not great you can hear when they when the power band kicks in but up top it's like crazy and i'm hoping that i can sort that out with uh some race gas and a little bit of timing i'll let jay go ahead i'm gonna roost you out so bad you go um man i think the tires are breaking loose really bad too this is all like uh we're in cold country right now it's a lot of like stone and shale and stuff and it can be it can be kind of hard to hook up a lot of sliding and it can be up really bad too um man does this thing pull god damn sounds great jay's red so suspension is done by rocket run got the fox uh fox club 3 in the front and a custom it's a raptor 660 shock in the back with alca dual linkage travel um stock length a arms minus one mx swing arm and uh about stock with axle too it might be like a plus one there's a couple sinkholes around here like here's one right here just gotta look out for stuff like that man you just give it a little bit of a clutch pump just feather the clutch a little bit man gets right up in that power band it feels great my god this thing throws you back man as soon as that power band hits oh god damn dude that ruce [Music] it really just wants to be wide open i mean like it runs okay down low but up top it just you can tell it's right at home don't gotta worry about mud anymore this is what i wanted man mud and water no problem oh god this thing really holds dude as soon as you start getting comfortable on it and giving it more and more gas it still wants to get away from you i kind of want to go through there but i don't know this is a cool section it gets pretty tight another thing that i wanted this quad to be good for is getting through tight sections and stuff uh uh definitely in these sections you can feel more like that you could use whoa holy that was really that was really deep yeah you can feel like the uh it's a little bit down on twerk for that um [Music] [Music] i don't know if you guys can see but this is pretty rocky [Music] [Music] suspension feels good i've popped tires right on this specific stretch before i think i was actually the last time i popped the tire that was on the 250r [Music] [Music] [Music] oh yes you can hear those drw skid plates taking a beating man oh man wow i just lost a chain my chain popped off holy oh my god the sprocket just sheared off holy whoa that is a first or they just came loot they ripped out whoa the only thing that would get me home right now is through bolts wow i mean at least that's like of all failures i guess that's not that bad but how the hell am i going to get back to the truck i wonder if just smacking a rock super hard just sheared those bolts look at this one they're titanium but it looks like it just ripped the aluminum right out or maybe some of them backed out so you know whatever ones were left just couldn't hold it oh damn well i'm glad the motor didn't blow up not too bad i think of all things to break a sheared off sprocket is it just is what it is i'm gonna have to i don't know what's good and what's bad back there what needs to be replaced uh but i think i need to do some reinforcing for sure here's a section of the rocks right here this is like the kind of stuff that we've been riding for the day but like stuff like this i don't know that's i don't know like a 10 inch tall rock they're all over the place and those things smack up against that skid plate guard and or the uh the rotor guard and like rocks like that and stuff and so i'm thinking maybe one of those just took it out well guys we've got our first casualty on our hands with the voodoo banshee and i have to say very happy that the engine is still running great but check this out man there's just nothing we can do about that unfortunately i think the only my only savior would be if i could get some through bolts which i just don't have handy right now and i could probably make that work to finish out the day of riding but you know it just is what it is and uh i would say it's it's probably a combination of either some of these bolts backing out and then the other half of them shearing off or possibly all of them just shearing off i'm not 100 sure but regardless it runs really really good i got a solid hour of riding in and uh it just it performs great we're still with the 19 cc domes right now so we're running pump gas and it really feels good in the trails it's making really really good power when i was riding it at home you know in like around the house and stuff it's just you can't get it into the rpms and stuff so it felt it just felt lousy like when you if you can't get it up into the rpms it really doesn't have too much down low but once you can open it up and get the wheels spinning and stuff and it's in that sweet spot with the power band man it runs really good so i would say that realistically you can build an alpha cub banshee and run it on pump gas and still have a very um i don't know if i want to say like well-mannered trail machine but manageable it's not so bad that it's like you've got that night and day power where you know there's nothing down low and so much power up top it's it is manageable so that i'm pretty happy with so i'll slowly start taking the dome size down up the compression i want to up the timing a little bit i'm just going to play with that and that's basically the name of the game with this thing uh just tuning it and dialing this thing in we'll see how much power we can get out of this thing and uh air box air box worked great i hit plenty of puddles today and uh we didn't have any bogging out or anything where you know it seemed like we were sucking up water no issues at all man awesome awesome air box i'm really happy about that it's just a shame i would have liked to get some more riding time in today like i said i think we got about an hour today out on the trails but man it really does run great and i will say uh for a good portion of this i was actually aiming for the rocks because i want to test this stuff out so i really like putting things to the test so i was actually picking the lines that had most of the rocks and stuff which i don't know maybe that wasn't such a good idea [Music] so [Music] man i'm starting to think that maybe i didn't give enough credit to that rock section and just how brutal those rocks are now that everything's clean i've kind of had a chance to look over and assess the damage and man it definitely took some damage not just in the areas that we noticed but like check this out i mean these are that's just you see this is all bent down here uh here the both of where the nerf bars hook in are just smashed and then it pulled the whole peg it bent that whole thing down these are really solid steel heavy duty pegs the reinforced in the middle i don't know what this is like uh 3 16 inch thick steel i think but they're not poorly made pegs they're really strong made by wicked metal designs and the fact that those bent that is crazy so i think you know these i don't really think this is like a bad design for the nerf bars but these hanging down solo i think you know rocks just it just smashed against that and i guess it had some leverage being that this is lower and man that really put a whooping on that you can see this whole thing is twisted and uh you know i can probably bend that back or i mean you could really just leave it like that it's it's going to function just fine but it just goes to show how these rocks were hitting and then look at this this one portion of the skid plate on the alka linkage just straight up ripped off which i'm not too happy about but i mean what are you gonna do that's that's pretty brutal man i also noticed that the disc i don't know if you guys can see that it's slightly bent so i don't know if a rock came in sideways or something or if this just flexed so hard and it bent i mean there is a there's a big gash i don't know if you guys can see that right here if you look up under this side you can see it right there i think that may have done it in kind of like a uh you know a sideways smack with a rock so man you know that rear end just really took some heavy blows i really don't know how i feel about this you know i'm all for throwing my stuff to the wolves and you know really giving it a full-blown test to see how durable it is but i think picking the rockiest lines and literally aiming for the big rocks was probably just straight up mean to this squad luckily everything else seems to be okay uh i can't show you the belly skid really because it's on the stand but i did look at it before i put it up and the belly skid didn't really take much damage at all i think because the the rear end is the lowest portion and you know when you're flying and your suspension's going and stuff the pegs actually get pretty close to the ground too i think because those areas are so low that's why they took all the heat the rest of the quad honestly didn't take any damage at all which i mean it shouldn't have i only probably had like an hour riding on the rocks but in that short amount of time you you really you can accrue some damage there's no doubt but everything else looks really good airbox definitely gets the win i have the cover off right now i cleaned that up that thing was actually really dirty i didn't have to clean the filter i think that filter up top uh makes a big difference so uh definitely happy with that so let me i'm gonna pull this off and uh let's assess the damage here i'm starting to think that these didn't shear off i think they backed out because most of these still have threads a couple of them you can see like this one it's starting to rip out a little bit this one a little bit that one looks okay this one it ripped out so i think what happened is they backed out and it was just done for but you know this is definitely partially my my fault this is not i wouldn't say this was like a drw issue or boss racing or anything i think that i assembled this kind of in an incorrect way so i'm gonna pull this off i'll show you how i had it assembled and how i'm gonna do it this time i think it'll be a lot stronger you know realistically this is the best way to figure out the weak links on a machine really to learn period as anybody that follows this channel probably knows that the best way that i learn is through experience so i did do some research and the bolts that i had used on that rear assembly their titanium a lot of the bolts are titanium on this this was kind of like my first go about with titanium and after doing a little bit more research uh titanium does have about the same strength as steel but it doesn't have the same properties and shear strength and yield strength and stuff like that so in terms of sheer strength steel would be stronger here so that could have something to do with it i also think that this poly piece may have compressed a little bit making those bolts come loose i'm not 100 sure but i think the whole setup i could improve so i guess what i'm trying to say here is that even though he had some casualties i can learn from it and now i can make stronger machines in the future [Music] well [Music] all right so we're all cleaned up here is our sprocket hub you can see the face of this took a beating probably when the chain actually came off just spinning around there like crazy unfortunately such a nice piece but at least that's just an appearance thing now after looking at this a little bit closer i'm beginning to think that the bolts just came loose and the remaining ones ripped out because there are threads in all of these you can see some of these are actually perfect like that one right there has no damage that one there ripped out just at the top ripped out at the top no damage ripped out at the top no damage so it looks like 50 50. uh so i and the the the dead giveaway is this man i don't see any loctite in there so i think what happened is i legitimately just forgot to loctite this thing you know when you're doing a full build there's you know so many bolts on there and i guess i just i legitimately i meant to red loctite these and i never did so i forgot now i also so chances are i like if it did back out it probably would have been fine now using the titanium hardware this is the only one that survived well it's here but it's dead but i i don't think they would have broken but what i said before is true steel is going to have better shear strength and it's just going to be stronger overall although titanium is very close in second i was just so obsessed with the weight savings on this build that you know i was doing every little thing that i possibly could and i didn't the way that i stacked these i put the sprocket on and then i had these aluminum spacers that went in between that was basically just so that the chain would have enough space for the chain on the sprocket and the guard and then i put the guard right on top and put the bolts straight through everything so i didn't have like a nut right up against this sprocket you know sandwiching it against the hub which would be really strong and kind of just a bad idea to begin with and i ran with it i really shouldn't have but you know you live and you learn and then the other thing is i think this uh the drw case saver or um sprocket saver rather i don't this did not necessarily fail but uh it looks like it squeezes a little bit this uhmw plastic and that could have made you know that little bit of flex in there could have made the the tension on the bolts come loose a little bit you know something like that so i just think it will be safe doing a different design have a look at the sprocket sprocket is in perfect shape some people thought that the sprocket failed because it's aluminum it wasn't actually that but i could see the sprocket taking a nice dent after the beating that the rest of this took but with the exception of just the little bits that ripped out from the bolts uh sprocket is in good shape and they'll give you a look at the edge of the drw i don't really think this unit failed it just got knocked off you can see right there is a little bit of a flat spot that might have been the one that did it in but really this uh this this did not fail it was the way that i had the hardware on there so i've got some 10.9 bolts uh what i'm gonna do is instead of coming through the top i'm gonna come through the back like a stud and since some of these are missing a few threads i could just thread in a stud and uh you know do it that way red loctite it but this is going to be stronger by actually having the head of the bolt on the back side so i'm going to clean these up and then i'm going to thread these in red loctite them and we'll put everything on top stacking it and i'm going to use dedicated nuts specifically for the sprocket so put the sprocket on there put a nut then we'll put this on there and then this will get its own nut as well and i'm also going to put little sleeves inside this uhmw so that since it does compress with these little collars in here it won't be able to compress down and that way it'll never come loose first things first i'm just going to clean up the little bit of messy aluminum here i want to make sure that the sprocket is sitting nice and flush against this hub [Music] all right i'm going to put my red loctite on here first thing just going to go up at the top where the threads are actually going to sit in the sprocket hub i already measured the clearances behind the sprocket hub because the you know these little button heads are going to stick up there's plenty of clearance back there now we can slide our sprocket in place [Music] i'll go around put a little bit more red loctite where the nuts will go and we can still do a little bit of bling here we'll use titanium nuts for these uh separation ones to go right between the sprocket and the sprocket guard these we're not going to have any issues with we'll save a little bit of weight at least [Applause] now that is going to be super strong those will not sheer off i think the sprocket would break before anything now for these i'm going to drill them out a little bit larger to fit those collars [Applause] now we'll put a washer on top of each of these [Applause] and i'm going to use a little bit more loctite go in really overkill with this and then nylocks to top it off so this is really pretty redundant with uh you know all anti-vibration or vibration protection this this better not fall off all right there it is this should never come off again you can see those studs were just long enough to make it through the nylocks we've got the red loctite on there red loctite on the center nuts so even if somehow this guard comes off it'll still would have to get past the nuts on the inside too they can't rip out because we've got the bolt heads on this side got red loctite on those threads as well this thing we grade 10.9 steel hardware stainless steel nuts with nylocks titanium nuts in the center i don't think this we're not gonna have any problems there all right let's get this thing back on there this thing's never gonna be a problem again all right man we are saved everything is good to go now order is restored and i don't think this will ever break now this is really the way i should have done it the first time around but again guys it's a learning experience i'll know better for next time i've also got the nerf bar off and the heel guard on this side i straightened out the peg pretty good on this side and i'm gonna see if i can straighten out the nerf bar as well before i put that back on but otherwise oh and i'm gonna do the disc also you really there's no rolling resistance but you can see it's bent so i'd let's see if i can just straighten that out a little bit if i can't honestly it's really not that big of a deal but that does bother me a little bit you know what man that's what we do here at best case garage we take something that's not working properly and we just make it better so we've we've improved the overall design of the voodoo banshee the whole idea is to make it a bulletproof trail trail machine so you know uh the air box i think we're good to go we're never gonna have to worry about splashes or anything like that or any kind of like water getting into the carburetors but the undercarriage is also one of those trail quad things you know going over big roots heavy rocks and stuff like that we want it to be bulletproof on the underside so that's one step closer i think we could still make it better but uh that's where we're gonna leave it today guys we're gonna have to bump up the compression and see how this thing handles with race gas in it hopefully we can get a little bit better torque out of it a little bit better of a curve and not have that kind of like light switch effect like you get with a lot of two strokes especially with the yamaha banshee and we'll have to take it from there but until then guys i will see you in the next video please give me a thumbs up if you enjoyed this video also consider subscribing if you want to see more content like this and if you're looking to support 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Length: 41min 40sec (2500 seconds)

Published: Thu May 05 2022