Full 2016 Final Presidential Debate

from the Thomas and Max Center at the University of Nevada Las Vegas I'm Chris Wallace of Fox News and I welcome you to the third and final of the 2016 presidential debates between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Donald J Trump this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates the commission has designed the format six roughly 15minute segments with two-minute answers to the first question then open discussion for the rest of each segment both campaigns have agreed to those rules for the record I decided the topics and the questions in each topic none of those questions has been shared with the commission or the two candidates the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent no cheers booze or other interruptions so we and you can focus on what the candidates have to say no noise except right now as we welcome the Democratic nominee for president secretary Clinton and the Republic nominee for president Mr Trump secretary Clinton Mr Trump welcome let's get right to it the first topic is the Supreme Court we you both talk briefly about the court in the last de debate but I want to drill down on this because the next president will almost certainly have at least one appointment and likely or possibly two or three appointments which means that you will in effect determine the balance of the court for what could be the next quarter Century first of all where do you want to see the court take the country and secondly what's your view on how the Constitution should be interpreted is do the founders words mean what they say or is it a living document to be applied flexibly according to changing circumstances in this segment secretary Clinton you go first you have two minutes thank you very much Chris and thanks to UNLV for hosting us you know I think when we talk about the Supreme Court it really raises the central issue in this election namely what kind of country are we going to be what kind of opportunities will we provide for our citizens what kind of Rights will Americans have have and I feel strongly that the Supreme Court needs to stand on the side of the American people not on the side of the powerful corporations and the wealthy for me that means that we need a supreme court that will stand up on behalf of women's rights on behalf of the rights of the LGBT community that will stand up and say no to Citizens United a decision that has under under mind the uh election system in our country because of the way it permits dark unaccountable money to come into uh our electoral system I have major disagreements with my opponent about these issues and others that will be before The Supreme Court but I feel that at this point in our country's history uh it is important that we not reverse marriage equality that we not reverse roie Wade that we stand stand up against citizens united we stand up for the rights of people in the workplace that we stand up and basically say the Supreme Court should represent all of us that's how I see the court and the kind of people that I would be looking to uh nominate to the court uh would be in the great tradition of standing up to the powerful standing up on behalf of our rights as Americans and I look forward to having that opportunity I would hope that the Senate would do its job and confirm the nominee that President Obama has sent to them that's the way the Constitution fundamentally should operate the president nominates and then the Senate advises and consents or not but they go forward with the process secretary Clinton thank you Mr Trump same question where do you want to see the court take the country and how do you believe the Constitution should be interpreted well first of all it's a great to be with you and thank you everybody the Supreme Court it's what it's all about our country is so so just so imperative that we have the right justices something happened recently where Justice Ginsburg uh made some very very inappropriate statements toward me and toward a tremendous number of people many many millions of people that I represent and she was forced to apologize and apologize she did but these were statements that should never ever have been made we need a supreme court that in my opinion is going to uphold the Second Amendment and all amendments but the Second Amendment which is under absolute Siege I believe if my opponent should win this race which I truly don't think will happen uh we will have a second Amendment which will be a very very small replica of what it is right now but I feel that it's absolutely important that we uphold because of the fact that it is under such uh trauma I feel that the justices that I am going to appoint and I've named 20 of them the justices that I'm going to appoint will be pro-life they will have a conservative bent uh they will be protecting the Second Amendment they are great scholars in all cases and they are people of tremendous respect uh they will interpret the Constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted and I believe that's very very important I don't think we should have justices appointed that decide what they want to hear it's all about the constitution of of and and so important the Constitution the way it was meant to be and those are the people that I will appoint Mr Trump thank you we now have about 10 minutes for an open discussion I want to focus on two issues that in fact by the justices that you name could end up changing the existing law of the land first is one that you mentioned Mr Trump and that is guns secretary Clinton you said last year and let me quote the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment and now in fact in the 2008 heler case the Court ruled that there is a constitutional right to bear arms but a a right that is reasonably limited those were the words of the uh of the judge anonin Scalia who wrote the decision what's wrong with that well first of all I support the Second Amendment I lived in Arkansas for 18 wonderful years I represented Upstate New York I understand and respect the tradition of gun ownership it goes back to the founding of our country uh but I also believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation um because I support the Second Amendment doesn't mean that I want people who shouldn't have guns to be able to threaten you kill you or members of your family and so when I think about what we need to do we have 33,000 people a year who die from guns I think we need comprehensive background checks need to close the online loophole close the uh Gun Show loophole there's other matters that I think are sensible that are the kind of reforms that would make a difference that are not in any way conflicting with the Second Amendment you mentioned the heler decision and what I was saying uh that you referenced Chris was that I disagreed with the way the court applied the Second Amendment in that case because what the District of Columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns and so they wanted people with guns to safely store them and the court didn't accept that reasonable regulation but they've accepted many others so I see no conflict between saving people's lives and defending the Second Amendment let me bring Mr Trump in here the bipartisan open debate Coalition uh got millions of votes on questions to ask here and this was in fact one of the top questions that they got how will you ensure the Second Amendment is protected you just heard secretary Clinton's answer does she persuad you that while you may disagree on regulation that in fact she supports a Second Amendment right to bear arms well the DC versus heler decision uh was very strongly and she was extremely angry about it I watched I mean she was very very very angry when upheld and Justice Scalia was uh so involved and it was a well-crafted decision but Hillary was extremely upset extremely angry and people that believe in the Second Amendment and believe in it very strongly were very upset with what she had to say well let me let me bring in Secretary Clinton were you extremely upset well I was upset because unfortunately dozens of toddlers uh injure themselves even kill people with guns because unfortunately not everyone who um has loaded guns in their homes takes appropriate precautions but there's no doubt that I respect the second amendment that I also believe there's an individual right to bear arms that is not in conflict with sensible Common Sense regulation and you know look I understand that Donald's been uh strongly supported by the NRA the gun lobb's on his side they're running millions of dollars of ads against me and I regret that because what I would like to see is for people to come together and say of course we're going to protect and defend the Second Amendment but we're going to do it in a way that tries to save some of these 33,000 lives that we lose every year let me bring Mr Trump back into that because in fact you oppose any limits on assault weapons any limits on high capacity magazines you support a national right to carry law why sir well let me just just tell you before we go any further in Chicago which has the toughest gun laws in the United States probably you could say by far they have more gun violence than any other city so we have the toughest laws and you have tremendous gun violence I am a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment and I am I don't know if Hillary was saying it in a sarcastic manner but I'm very proud to have the endorsement of the NRA and it's the earliest endorsement they've ever given to anybody who ran for president so I'm very honored by all of that uh we are going to appoint justices this is the best way to help the Second Amendment we are going to appoint justices that will feel very strongly about the second amendment that will not do damage to the Second Amendment well let's pick up on another issue which divides you and the justices that whoever ends up winning this election of points could have a dramatic effect that there and that's the issue of abortion right Mr Trump your pro life but I I want to ask you specifically do you want the court including the justices that you will name to overturn Ro Wade which includes in fact States a woman's right to abortion well if that would happen because I am pro-life and I will be appointing pro-life judges I would think that that will go back to the individual states but I'm asking you specifically would you like if they overturned it it'll go back to the States but what I'm asking you sir is do you want to see the court overturn you just said you want to see the court protect the Second Amendment do you want to see the court overturn well if we put another two or perhaps three justices on that's really what's going to be that's will happen and that'll happen automatically in my opinion because I am putting pro-life justices on the court I will say this it will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination secretary Clinton well I I strongly support Ro v Wade which guarantees a constitutional right to a woman to make the most intimate most difficult in many cases decisions about her health care that one can imagine and in this case it's not only about roie Wade it is about what's happening right now in America so many states are putting very stringent regulations on women that block them from exercising that choice to the extent that they are defunding Planned Parenthood which of course provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefits for uh women in our country Donald has said he's in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood he even supported shutting the government down to defund Planned Parenthood I will defend Planned Parenthood I will defend Ro v Wade and I will defend women's rights to make their own health care decisions and we have come too far to have that turn back now and in indeed he said women should be punished that there should be some form of punishment uh for women uh who obtain abortions and I could just not be more opposed to that kind of thinking I I'm going to give you a chance to respond but I want to ask you secretary Clinton I want to explore how far you believe the right to abortion goes you have been quoted as saying that the fetus has no constitutional rights you also voted against a ban on late term partial birth abortions why because roie Wade very clearly sets out that there can be regulations on abortion so long as the life and the health of the mother are taken into account and when I voted as a senator I did not think that that was the case the kinds of cases that fall at the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking painful decisions for families to make I have met with women who toward the end of their pregnancy get the worst news when could get that their health is in Jeopardy if they continue to carry to term or that something terrible has happened or just been discovered uh about the pregnancy I do not think the United States government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions so you can regulate if you are doing so with the life and the health of the mother taken into account Mr Trump your reaction and particularly on this issue of light term partial birth well I think it's terrible if you go with what Hillary is saying in the ninth month you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby now you can say that that's okay and Hillary can say that that's okay but it's not okay with me because based on what she's saying and based on where she's going and where she's been you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day and that's not acceptable well that is not what happens in these cases and using that kind of uh scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate you should meet with some of the women that I've met with women I've known over the course of my life this is one of the worst possible choices that any woman in her family has to make and I do not believe the government should be making it you know I've had the great honor of traveling across the world on behalf of our country I've been to countries where governments either forced women to have abortions like they used to do in China or forced women to Bear children like they used to do in Romania and I can tell you the government has no business in the decisions that women make with their families in accordance with their faith with medical advice and I will stand up for that right all right but just briefly I want to move on to honestly nobody has business doing what I just said doing that as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth nobody has that all right let's move on to the subject of immigration uh and there is almost no issue that separates the two of you more than the issue of immigration actually there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you Mr Trump you want to build a wall secretary Clinton you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our Southern border Mr Trump you are calling for major deportations secretary Clinton you say that within your first 100 days as president you're going to offer a package that includes a pathway to citizenship uh the question really is why are you right and your opponent wrong Mr Trump you go first in this segment you have two minutes well first of all she wants to give amnesty which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people that waiting on line for many many years we need strong borders in the audience tonight we have four mothers of I mean these are unbelievable people that I've gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been killed brutally killed by people that came into the country illegally you have thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country they're coming in illegally drugs are pouring in through the Border we have no country if we have no border Hillary wants to give amnesty she wants to have open borders the border secure as you know the border patrol agent 16,500 plus ice last week endorsed me first time they've ever endorsed a candidate it means their job is tougher but they know what's going on on they know it better than anybody they want strong borders they feel we have to have strong borders I was up in New Hampshire the other day the biggest complaint they have it's with all of the problems going on in the world many of the problems caused by Hillary Clinton and by Barack Obama all of the problems their single biggest problem is heroin that pours across our Southern borders just pouring and destroying their youth it's poisoning the blood of their youth and plenty of other people we have to have strong borders we have to keep keep the drugs out of our country we are right now we're getting the drugs they're getting the cash we need strong borders we need absolute we cannot give amnesty now I want to build the wall we need the wall the water Patrol ice they all want the wall we stop the drugs we we Shore up the Border one of my first acts will be to get all of the drug lords all of the bad ones we have some bad bad people in this country that have to go out we're going to get them out we're going to secure the Border and once the border is secured at a later date we'll make a determination as to the rest but we have some bad ombres here and we're going to get them out Mr Trump thank you same question to you secretary Clinton basically why are you right and Mr Trump is wrong well as he was talking I was thinking about a young girl I met here in Las Vegas Carla uh who was very worried that her parents might be deported because uh she was born in this country but they were not they work hard they do everything they can to give her a good life and you're right I don't want to rip families apart I don't want to be sending parents away from children I don't want to see the deportation force that Donald has talked about in action in our country we have 11 million undocumented people they have 4 million American citizen children 15 million people he said as recently as a few weeks ago in Phoenix that every undocumented person would be subject to deportation now here's what that means it means you would have to have a massive law enforcement presence where Law Enforcement Officers would be going school to school home to home business to business rounding up people who are undocumented and we would then have to put them on trains on buses to get them out of our country I think that is a an idea that is not in keeping with who we are as a nation I think it's an idea that would rip our country apart I have been for border security for years I voted for border security in the United States Senate and my comprehensive immigration reform plan of course includes border security but I want to put our resources where I think they're most needed getting rid of any violent person anybody who should be deported we should Deport them when it comes to the wall that Donald talks about building he went to Mexico he had a meeting meting with the Mexican president didn't even raise it he choked and then got into a Twitter war because the Mexican president said we're not paying for that wall so I think we are both a nation of immigrants and we are a nation of laws and that we can act accordingly and that's why I'm introducing comprehensive immigration reform within the first 100 Days with a path to citizenship thank thank you secretary Clinton I want to follow I think it's I think I should respond to that first of all I had a very good meeting with the president of me Meo very nice man uh we will be doing very much better with Mexico on trade deals believe me uh the NAFTA deal signed by her husband's one of the worst deals ever made of any kind signed by anybody it's a disaster Hillary Clinton wanted the wall Hillary Clinton fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts now she never gets anything done so naturally the wall wasn't built but Hillary Clinton wanted the wall well let me we are country laws either have and and by the way no wait I'd like to hear from I'd like to hear from I'd like to hear from secretary Clinton I voted for border security and there are there are some limited places where that was appropriate there also is necessarily going to be new technology and how best to deploy that uh but it is clear when you look at what Donald has been proposing he started his campaign bashing immigrants calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and drug dealers uh that he has a very different view about what we should do to deal with immigrants now what I am also arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the Shadows putting them into the formal economy will be good because then employers can't exploit them and undercut Americans wages and Donald knows a lot about this he used undocumented labor to build the Trump Tower he underpaid undocumented workers and when they complained he basically said what a lot of employers do you complain I'll get you deported I want to get everybody out of the Shadows get the economy working and not let employers like Donald exploit undocumented workers which hurts them but also hurts American workers Mr Trump President Obama has moved millions of people out nobody knows about it nobody talks about it but under Obama millions of people have been moved out of this country they've been deported she doesn't want to say that but that's what's happened and that's what's happened Big League uh as far as moving these people out and moving we either have a country or we don't we're a country of laws we either have a border or we don't now you can come back in and you can become a citizen but it's very unfair we have millions of people that did it the right way they're online they're waiting we're going to speed up the process big leag because it's very inefficient but they're online and they're waiting to become citizens very unfair that somebody runs across the border becomes a citizen under her plan you have open borders you would have a disaster on trade and you will have a disaster with your open borders what she doesn't say is that President Obama has deported millions and millions of people just the way secretary Clinton I want we will not have open borders that is a a rank mischaracterization secretary we will have secure borders but we will also have reform and this used to be a bipartisan issue Ronald Reagan was the last president to sign immigration reform and George W bush supported it as well secretary Clinton I want to clear up your position on this issue because in a speech you gave to a Brazilian bank for which you were paid $225,000 we've learned from the Wikileaks that you said this and I want to quote my dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders so that's the question that's the question please quiet everybody is that your dream open borders well if you went on to read the rest of the sentence I was talking about uh energy you know we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined and I do want us to have a an electric grid an energy system that crosses borders I think that would be a great benefit to us but you are uh very clearly uh quoting from Wikileaks and what's really important about Wikileaks is that the Russian government has engaged in Espionage against Americans they have hacked American uh websites American accounts of private people of Institutions then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet this has come from the highest levels of the Russian government clearly from Putin himself in an effort as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed to influence our election so I actually think the most important question of this evening Chris is finally will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in this election that he rejects Russian Espionage against Americans which he uh actually encouraged in the past those are the questions we need answered we've never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before that was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders okay how did we get on to Putin hold on hold on hold wait wait hold on folks because we could this is going to end up getting out of control let's try to keep it quiet so for the candidates and for the American people go so just to finish on the borders yes she wants open borders people are going to pour into our country people are going to come in from Syria she wants 550% more people than Barack Obama and he has thousands and thousands of people they have no idea where they come from and you see we are going to stop stop radical Islamic terrorism in this country she won't even mention the words and neither will President Obama so I just want to tell you she wants open borders now we can talk about Putin I don't know Putin he said nice things about me if we got along well that would be good if Russia and the United States got along well and went after Isis that would be good he has no respect for her he has no respect for our president and I'll tell you what we're in very serious trouble because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads 1800 by the way where they expanded and we didn't 1,800 nuclear warheads and she's playing chicken look pu from everything I see has no respect for this person well that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States it's pretty clear it's pretty clear you won't admit the Russians have engaged in cyber ATT ta against the United States of America that you encouraged Espionage against our people that you are willing to spout the Putin line sign up for his wish list break up NATO do whatever he wants to do and that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race so I think that this is such an unprecedented uh situation we've never had had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election we have 17 17 intelligence agencies civilian and Military who have all concluded that these Espionage attacks these cyber attacks come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election I find that deeply disturbing I think it's she has no idea whether it's Russia China or anybody else idea I am quoting 17 intell do you doubt 17 military cilian agencies well he'd rather believe Vladimir Putin than the military and civilian intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect us I find that just absolutely she doesn't like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her at every step of the way excuse me Putin has outsmarted her in Syria he's outsmarted her get I do get to ask some questions and I would like to ask you this direct question the top National Security officials of this country do believe that Russia has been behind these hacks even if you don't know for sure whether they are do you condemn any interference by Russia in the American election by Russia or anybody else you condemn their interference of course I condemn of course I can I don't know Putin I have no idea I never met Putin this is not my best friend but if the United States got along with Russia wouldn't be so bad let me tell you Putin has outsmarted her and Obama at every single step of the way whether it's Syria no you name it missiles take a look at the startup that they signed the Russians have said according to many many reports I can't believe they allowed us to do this they create warheads and we can't the Russians can't believe it she has been outsmarted by Putin and all you have to do is look at the Middle East they've taken over we've spent $6 trillion they've taken over the Middle East she has been outsmarted and outplayed worse than anybody I've ever seen in any government whatsoever we're a long way away from IM immigration but I'm going to let you finish this topic you got about 45 seconds and she always will be I I find it ironic that he's raising nuclear uh weapons this is a person who has been very Cavalier even casual about the use of nuclear weapons he's advocated more countries getting them Japan Korea even Saudi Arabia he said well if we have them why don't we use them which I think is uh terrifying but here's the deal the bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order it must be followed there's about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so and that's why 10 people who have had that awesome responsibility have come out in an unprecedented way said they would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button I have 200 generals and Admirals 21 endorsing me 21 Congressional Medal of Honor recipients as far as Japan and other countries we are being ripped off by everybody in the world we're defending other countries we are spending a fortune doing it they have the barain of the century all I said is we have to renegotiate these agreements because our country cannot afford to defend Saudi Arabia Japan Germany South Korea and many other places we cannot continue to afford she took that as saying nuclear weapons look she's been proven to be a liar on so many different ways this is just another lie well I'm just quoting you uh when you're not going find a quote from me nuclear nuclear uh uh competition in Asia you said you know go ahead enjoy yourselves folks that kind and Def and defend your I didn't say nuclear and defend yourself the United States has kept the peace through our alliances Donald wants to tear up our alliances I think it makes the world safer and frankly it makes the United States safer I would work with our allies in Asia in Europe in the Middle East and elsewhere that's the only way we're going no we're going to we are going to move on to the next topic which is the economy and I hope we handle that as well as we did immigration uh you also have very different ideas about how to get the economy growing faster secretary Clinton in your plan government plays a big role you see more government spending more entitlements more tax credits more tax penalties uh Mr Trump you want to get government out with lower taxes and less regulation we're going to drill down into this a little bit more but in this overview please explain to me why you believe that your plan will create more jobs and growth for this country and your opponent's plan will not in this round you go for a secretary Clint well I think when the middle class thrives America thrives and so my plan is based on growing the economy giving middle class families many more opportunities uh I want us to have the biggest jobs program since World War II job and infrastructure and advanced manufacturing I think we can compete with high- wage countries and I believe we should new jobs and clean energy not only to fight climate change which is a serious problem but to create new opportunities and new businesses I want us to do more to help small business that's where two-thirds of the new jobs are going to come from I want us to raise the national minimum wage because people who live in poverty should not uh who work full-time should not still be in poverty and I sure do want to make sure women get equal pay for the work we do I feel strongly that we have to have an education system that starts with preschool and goes through college that's why I want more technical education in high schools and in community colleges real apprenticeships to prepare young people for the jobs of the future I want to make college debt-free and for families making less than $125,000 you will not get a tuition bill from a public college or university if the plan that I worked on with Bernie Sanders uh is enacted and we're going to work hard to make sure that it is because we are going to go where the money is most of the gains in the last years since the Great Recession have gone to the very top so we are going to have the wealthy pay their fair share we're going to have corporations uh make a contribution greater than they are now to our country that is a plan that has been analyzed by independent experts which said that it could produce 10 million new jobs by contrast Donald's plan has been uh analyzed to uh conclude it might lose uh three and a half million jobs why because his whole plan is to cut taxes to give the biggest tax breaks ever to the wealthy and to corporations adding 20 trillion to our debt and causing the kind of dislocation that we have seen before because it truly will be trickle down economics on steroids So the plan I have I think will actually produce greater opportunities the plan he has will cost us jobs and possible lead to another Great Recession secretary thank you Mr Trump why will your plan create more jobs and growth than secretary Clint well first of all before I start on my plan her plan is going to raise taxes and even double your taxes her tax plan is a disaster and she can say all she wants about college tuition and I'm a big proponent we're going to do a lot of things for college tuition but the rest of the Public's going to be paying for it we will have a massive massive tax increase under Hillary Clinton's plan but I'd like to start off where we left because when I said Japan and Germany and I'm not to single them out but South Korea these are very rich powerful countries uh Saudi Arabia nothing but money we protect Saudi Arabia why aren't they paying she immediately when she heard this I questioned it and I questioned NATO why aren't the NATO questioned why aren't they paying because they weren't paying since I did this this was a year ago all of a sudden they're paying and I've been given a lot of lot of credit for it all of a sudden this starting to pay up they have to pay up we're protecting people they have to pay up and I'm a big fan of NATO but they have to pay up she comes out and said we love our allies we think our allies are great well it's awfully hard to get them to pay up when you have somebody saying we think how great they are we have to tell Japan in a very nice way we have to tell Germany all of these countries South Korea we have to say you have to help us out we have during his regime during President Obama's regime we've doubled our national debt we're up to 20 trillion do so my plan we're going to renegotiate trade deals we're gonna have a lot of free trade we're gonna have free trade more free trade than we have right now but we have horrible deals our jobs are being taken out by the deal that her husband signed NAFTA one of the worst deals ever our jobs are being sucked out of our economy you look at all of the places that I just left you go to Pennsylvania you go to Ohio you go to Florida you go to any of them you go upstate New York our jobs have fled to Mexico and other places we're bringing our job obsp I am going to renegotiate NAFTA and if I can't make a great deal then we're going to terminate NAFTA and we're going to create new deals we're going to have trade but we're going to ter we're going to terminate it we're going to make a great trade deal and if we can't we're going to do it we're going to go a separate way because it has been a disaster we are going to cut taxes massively we're going to cut business taxes massively they're going to start hiring people we're going to bring the $2.5 trillion dollar that's offshore back into the country we are going to start the engine rolling again CU right now our country is dying at 1% GDP well let me translate that if I can Chris because um you can't the fact is he's going to uh advocate for the largest tax cuts we've ever seen three times more than uh the tax cuts under the Bush Administration I have said repeatedly throughout this campaign I will not raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less I also will not add a Penny to the debt I have costed out what I'm going to do he will through his massive tax cuts add $20 trillion to the debt well he mentioned the debt we know how to get control of the debt when my husband was President we went from a $300 billion deficit to a $200 billion Surplus and we were actually on the path to eliminating the national debt when President Obama came into office he inherited the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression he has cut the deficit by two-thirds so yes one of the ways you go after the debt one of the ways you create jobs is by investing in people so I do have Investments investments in new jobs investments in education skill training and the opportunities for people to get ahead and stay ahead that's the kind of approach that will work cutting taxes on the wealthy we've tried that it has not work the way that uh it has been TR I want I want to pursue your plan because in many ways it is similar to the Obama stimulus plan in 2009 uh which has led to the slowest GDP growth since 1949 correct thank you sir uh you told me in July when we spoke that the problem is that President Obama didn't get to do enough in what he was trying to do with the stimulus so is your plan basically more even more of the Obama stimulus well it's a combination Chris and let let me say that when you inherit the level of economic catastrophe that President Obama inherited uh it was a real touch andgo situation I was in the Senate before I became Secretary of State I've never seen uh people as physically distraught as the Bush Administration uh team was because of what was happening to the economy I personally believe that the steps that President Obama took saved the economy he doesn't get the credit he deserves for taking some very hard positions but it was a terrible recession so now we've dug ourselves out of it we're standing but we're not yet running so what I am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground up not the top down that is not going to work that's why what I have put forward doesn't add a penny to the debt but it is the kind of approach that will enable more people to take those new jobs higher paying jobs we're beginning to see some increase in incomes and we certainly have had a long string of increasing jobs we've got to do more to get the whole economy moving and that's what I believe I will be able to do Mi Mr Trump even conservative economists who have looked at your plan say that the numbers don't add up that your idea and you've talked about 25 million jobs created 4% over a 10e period growth is unrealistic U and they say you talk a lot about growing the energy industry they say with oil prices as low as they are right now that's unrealistic as well your response so I just left some high representatives of India they're growing at 8% China is growing at 7% and that for them is a catastrophically no low number we are growing our last report came out and it's right around the 1% level and I think it's going down last last week as you know La the end of last week they came out with an anemic jobs report a terrible jobs report in fact I said is that the last jobs report before the election because if it is I should win easily it was so bad the report was so bad look our country is stagnant we've lost our jobs we've lost our businesses We're Not Making Things anymore relatively speaking our product is pouring in from China pouring in from Vietnam pouring in from all over the world I've visited so many communities this has been such an incredible education for me Chris I've gotten to know so many I've developed so many friends over the last year and they cry when they see what's happened I passed factories that were thriving 20 25 years ago and because of the bill that her husband signed and she blessed 100% it is just horrible what's happened to these people in these communities now she can say that her husband did well but boy did they suffer as NAFTA kicked in because it didn't didn't really kick in very much but it kicked in after they left boy did they suffer that was one of the worst things that's ever been signed by our country now she wants to sign transpacific partnership and she wants it she lied when she said she didn't call it the gold standard in one of the debates she totally lied she did go at the gold standard and they actually fact checked and they said I was right I was so I want to give you a chance to to briefly speak to that then I want to Pivot to one six the econ which is Obamacare but go ahead briefly first let me let me say number one uh when I saw the uh final agreement for TPP I said I was against it it didn't meet my tests I've had the same test does it create jobs raise incomes and further our national security I'm against it now I'll be against it after the election I'll be against it when I'm president there's only one of us on this stage who's actually shipped jobs to Mexico because that's Donald he's shipped jobs to 12 countries including Mexico but he mentioned China and you know one of the biggest problems we have with China is the illegal dump in of Steel and aluminum into our markets I have fought against that as a senator I've stood up against it as Secretary of State Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum in fact the Trump Hotel right here in Las Vegas was made with Chinese steel so he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is but he has given jobs to Chinese Steel Workers not American Steel Workers that's the kind approach that is just not going to work we're going to pull the country together we're going to have trade agreements that we enforce that's why I'm going to have a trade prosecutor for the first time in history and we're going to enforce those agreements and we're going to look for businesses uh to help us by buying American Products I ask a simple question she's been doing this for 30 years why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15 20 years you were very much involved excuse me my turn you were very much involved in every aspect of this country very much and you do have experience I the one thing you have over me is experience but it's bad experience because what you've done has turned out badly for 30 years you've been in position to help and if you say that I use steel or I use something else I make it impossible for me to do that I wouldn't mind the problem is you talk but you don't get anything done Hillary you don't just like when you ran the state department $6 billion doar was missing how do you miss $6 billion you ran the state department $6 billion was either stolen they don't know it's gone $6 billion doar if you become president this country is going to be in some mess believe me well first of all what he just said about the state department is not only untrue it's been debunked numerous times uh but I think it's really an important issue he raised the 30 years of experience so let me just talk briefly about that you know back in the 1970s I worked for the children's defense fund and I was taking on uh discrimination against African-American kids in schools he was getting sued by the justice department for racial discrimination in his apartment buildings in the 1980s I was working to reform the schools in Arkansas he was borrowing $14 million from his father to start his businesses in the 1990s I went to Beijing and I said women's rights are human rights he insulted a former Miss Universe Alicia Machado called her an eating machine and on the day when I was in The Situation Room monitoring The Raid that brought Osama Bin Laden to Justice he was hosting the Celebrity Apprentice so I'm happy to compare my 30 years of experience what I've done for this country trying to help in every way I could especially kids and families get ahead and stay ahead with your 30 years and I'll let the American people make that decision well I think I did a much better job I built a massive company a great company some of the greatest assets any anywhere in the world world uh worth many many billions of dollars uh I started with a $1 million loan I agree with that it's a $1 million loan but I built a phenomenal company and if we could run our country the way I've run my company we would have a country that you would be so proud of you would even be proud of it and frankly uh when you look at her real record take a look at Syria take a look at the migration take a look at Libya take a look at Iraq she gave us Isis because her and Obama created this huge vacuum and a small group came out of that huge vacuum because when they we should have never been in Iraq but once we were there we should have never got out the way they wanted to get out she gave us Isis as sure as you are sitting there and what happened is now Isis is in 32 countries and now I listen how she's going to get rid of Isis she's going to get rid of nobody all right we we are going to get to foreign hot spots in a few moments but the next segment is Fitness to be president of the United States Mr Trump at the last debate you said your talk about grabbing women was just that talk and that you'd never actually done it and since then as we all know nine women have come forward and said that you either grope them or kiss them without their consent why would so many different women from so many different circumstances over so many different years why would they all in this last couple of weeks make up you deny this why would they all make up these stories and since this is a question for both of you secretary Clinton Mr Trump says what your husband did and that you defended was even worse Mr Trump you go first well first of all those stories have been largely debunked uh those people I don't know those people I have a feeling how they came I believe it was her campaign that did it just like if you look at what came out today on the clips where I was wondering what happened with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence she's the one in Obama that caused the violence they hired people they paid them $1,500 and they're on tape saying be violent cause fights do bad things I would say the only way because those stories are all totally false I have to say that and I didn't even apologize to my wife who's sitting right here because I didn't do anything I didn't know any of these women I didn't see these women these women the woman on the plane the woman I think they want either fame or her campaign did it and I think it's her campaign because when I saw what they did which is a criminal act by the way where they're telling people to go out and start fist fights and start violence and I'll tell you what in particular in Chicago people were hurt and people could have been killed in that Riot and that was now all on tape started by her I believe Chris that she got these people to step forward if it wasn't they get their 10 minutes of fame but they were all totally it was all fiction it was lies and it was fiction well secretary Clinton at at the last debate we heard Donald talking about what he uh did to women and after that a number of women have come forward uh saying that's exactly what he did to them now what was his response well he held a number of big rallies where he said that he could not possibly have done uh those things to those women because they were not attractive enough for I to be assaulted I did not say that in fact he went on to say her to her two minut sir her two minutes but did not say that it's her two minutes he went on to say uh look at her I don't think so about another woman he said that wouldn't be my first choice he attacked act the woman reporter writing the story called her disgusting as he has called a number of women uh during this campaign you know Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger he goes after their dignity their selfworth and I don't think there is a woman anywhere who doesn't know what that feels like so we now know what Donald thinks and what he says and how he acts toward women that's who Donald is I think it's really up to all of us to demonstrate who we are and who our country is and to stand up and be very clear about what we expect from our next president how we want to bring our country together where we don't want to have the kind of pitting of people one against the other where instead we celebrate our diversity we lift people up and we make our country even greater America is great because America is good and it really is up to all of us to make that true now and in the future and particularly for our children and our grandchildren Mr Trump nobody has more respect for women than I do nobody nobody has more respect please everybody and frankly uh those stories have been largely debunked and I really want to just talk about something slightly different she mentions this which is all fiction All fictionalized probably or possibly started by her and her very sleazy campaign but I will tell you what isn't fictionalized are her emails where she destroyed 33,000 emails criminally criminally after getting a subpoena from the United States Congress what happened to the FBI I don't know we have a great General fourstar General today you read it in all the papers going to potentially serve five years in jail for lying to the FBI One Lie she's lied hundreds of times to the people to Congress and to the to the FBI he's going to probably go to jail this is a fourstar general and she gets away with it and she can run for the presidency of the United States that's really what you should be talking about not fiction where somebody wants fame or where they come out of her crooked campaign secretary Clinton well every time uh Donald is pushed on something which is obviously uncomfortable like what these women are saying um he immediately goes to uh denying responsibility uh and it's not just about women he never apologizes or says he's sorry s for anything so we know what he has said and what he's done to women but he also went after a disabled reporter mocked and mimicked him on National Television he went after Mr and Mrs Khan the parents of a young man who died serving our country a gold star family because of their religion he went after John McCain a prisoner of war said he prefers people who aren't captured he went after a federal judge born in Indiana but who Donald said couldn't be trusted to try the fraud and racketeering case against Trump University because his parents were Mexican so it's not one thing this is a pattern a pattern of divisiveness of a very dark and in many ways dangerous vision of our country where he incites violence where he applauds people who are pushing and pulling and punching at his rallies that is not who America is and I hope that as we move in the last weeks of this campaign more and more people will understand what's at stake in this election it really does come down to what kind of country we are going to have so sad when she talks about violence at my rallies and she caused the violence it's on tape during the last the other things are false but honestly I'd love to talk about getting rid of Isis and I'd love to talk about other things but those other charges as she knows are for in this in this bucket about Fitness to be president there's been a lot of developments over the last 10 days since the last debate I'd like to ask you about about them these are questions that the American people have secretary Clinton during your 2009 Senate confirmation hearing you promised to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest with your dealing with the Clinton Foundation while you were Secretary of State but emails show the donors got special access to you those seeking grants for Haiti relief were considered separately from non-donors and some of those donors got contract government contracts taxpayer money can you really say that you kept your pledge to that senate committee and why isn't what happened and what went on between you and the Clinton Foundation why isn't it what Mr Trump calls pay to play well everything I did as secretary of state was in furtherance of uh uh our country's interests and our values the state department has said that I think that's been proven but I am happy in fact I'm am thrilled to talk about the Clinton Foundation because it is a world renowned charity and I am so proud of the work that it does you know I could talk for the rest of the debate I know I don't have the time to do that but just briefly uh the Clinton foundation made it possible for 11 million people around the world with HIV AIDS to afford treatment and that's about half of all the people in the world who are getting treatment in partnership with the American Health Association we have made environments and schools healthier forids respectfully this is a this is an open discussion well it is an Open disc I understand and a specific question went to pay for PL do you want to talk about but there is no evidence there is a lot of evidence very good work and it's a criminal Enterprise and so many people it's a criminal Enterprise Saudi Arabia giving $25 million Qatar all of these countries you talk about women and women's rights so these are people that push gays off business off buildings these are people that kill women and treat women horribly and yet you take their money so I'd like to ask you right now why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly why don't you give back the money I think it would be a great gesture because she takes a tremendous amount of money and you take a look at the people of Haiti I was in Little Haiti the other day in Florida and I want to tell you they hate the clintons because what's happened in Haiti with the Clinton Foundation is a disgrace and you know it and they know it and everybody knows secretary well very quickly we um at the Clinton Foundation spent 90% 90% of all the money that uh is donated on behalf of PRS of people around the world and in our own country I'm very proud of that we have the highest rating from the Watchdogs that uh follow foundations and I'd be happy to compare what we do with the Trump Foundation which took money from other people and bought a six-foot portrait of Donald I mean who does that it just was astonishing but when it comes to Haiti Haiti is the poorest country in our hemisphere the earthquake and the Hurricanes that has devastated Haiti uh bill and I have been involved and trying to help Haiti for many years the Clinton Foundation raised $30 million to help Haiti after the catastrophic uh earthquake and all of the terrible problems the people there had we've done things to help small businesses Agriculture and so much else and we're going to keep working to help Haiti because it's an important part of the American they don't want you to help them anymore I would I I i' like I'd like to mention one thing Trump Foundation small Foundation people contribute I contribute the money goes 100% 100% goes to different charities including a lot of military I don't get anything I don't buy boats I don't buy planes what happens is money wasn't some of the money used to settle your lawsuit sir no it was we put up the American flag and that's it they put up the American flag we fought for the right in Palm Beach to put up the American there was a penalty that was imposed by Palm Beach County the money came from your found by the way the money Mar Mone went to fer house where they build houses the money that you're talking about went to Fisher house where they build houses for veterans and disabled I want to get into one last of course there's no way we can know whether any of that is true because he hasn't released his tax returns he is the first candidate ever to run for president in the last 40 plus years who has not released his tax returns so everything he says about charity or anything else uh we can't prove it you can look at our tax returns we've got them all out there but what is really trou uh is that we learned in the last debate he has not paid a penny in federal income tax and we were talking about immigrants a few minutes ago Chris you know half of all immigrants undocumented immigrants in our country actually pay federal income tax so we have undocumented immigrants in America who are paying more federal income tax than a billionaire I find that let me just tell you very we're entitled because of the laws that people like her pass to take massive amounts of of depreciation and other charges that we do it and all of her donors just about all of them I know Buffett took hundreds of millions of dollars uh Soros George Soros took hundreds of millions of dollars let me just explain all of her donors most of her donors have done the same thing as I did you know what you should have done folks we heard you know Hillary what you should have done you should have changed the law when you were a United States Senator if you don't like we heard because your donors and your special interests are doing the same thing as I do except even more so you should have changed the law but you won't change the law because you take in so much money I mean I sat in my apartment today on a very beautiful hotel down the street known as made with Chinese steel but I will tell you I sat there I sat there watching ad after ad after ad false ad all paid for by your friends on Wall Street that gave so much money because they know you're going to protect them and frankly uh you should have changed the law if you don't like what I did you should have changed the laws Mr Trump I want to ask you about one last question in in this topic you have been warning at re rallies recently that this election is rigged and that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from you your running mate Governor Pence pledged on Sunday that he and you his words will absolutely accept the result of this election today your daughter Ivanka said the same thing thing I want to ask you here on the stage tonight do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely sir that you will absolutely accept the result of this election I will look at it at the time I'm not looking at anything now I'll look at it at the time what I've seen what I've seen is so bad first of all the media is so dishonest and so corrupt and the Pyon is so amazing the New York Times they actually wrote an article about it that they don't even care it's so dishonest and they've poisoned the minds of the voters but unfortunately for them I think the voters are seeing through it I think they're going to see through it we'll find out on November 8th but I think they're going to see through it but sir if you look excuse me Chris if you look at your voter roles you will see millions of people that are registered to vote Millions this isn't coming from me this is coming from Pew report and other places millions of people that are registered to vote that shouldn't be registered to vote so let me just give you one other thing so I talk about the corrupt media I talk about the millions of people tell you one other thing she shouldn't be allowed to run it's C she's she's guilty of a very very serious crime she should not be allowed to run and just in that respect I say it's rigged because she should never chis she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with emails and so many other things but sir there is a tradition in this country in fact one of the of this country is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard fought a campaign is that at the end of The Campaign that the loser concedes to the winner not saying that you're necessarily going to be the loser or the winner but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country are you saying you're not prepared now to to that princip say is that I will tell you at the time I'll keep you in suspense well Chris let me respond to that because that's horrifying you know every time Donald thinks things are not going in his Direction he claims whatever it is is rigged against him uh the FBI conducted a year-long investigation into my emails they concluded there was no case he said the FBI was rigged he lost the Iowa caucus he lost the Wisconsin Primary he said the Republican primary was rigged against him then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering he claims the court system and the Federal is rigged against him there was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the emys were rigged against should have gotten it this this is a mindset this is this is how Donald thinks and it's funny but it's also really troubling okay now that is not the way our democracy Works we've been around for 240 years we've had free and fair elections we've accepted the outcomes when we may not not have liked them and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election you know President Obama said the other day when you're whining before the game even finished it just shows you you're not up to doing the job and let's you know let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means he is denigrating he's talking down our democracy and I for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of of our two major parties would take that kind of position I think what the FBI did and what the Department of Justice did including meeting with her husband the attorney general in the back of an airplane on the tarmac in Arizona I think it's disgraceful I think it's a disgrace I think we've never had a situation so bad hold on folks this this doesn't do any good for anyone let's please continue the debate and let's move on to the subject of foreign hotspots the Iraqi offensive to take back mosul has begun if they are successful in pushing Isis out of that City and out of all of Iraq the question then becomes what happens the day after and that's something that whichever of you ends up whoever of you ends up as president is going to have to confront will you put US troops into that vacuum to make sure that Isis doesn't come back or isn't replaced by something even worse secretary Clinton you go first in this segment you have two minutes well I am encouraged that uh there is an effort led by the Iraqi Army uh supported by Kurdish forces and uh also given the help and advice from the number of Special Forces and other Americans on the ground but I will not support putting American soldiers into IR roq as an occupying Force I don't think that is in our interest and I don't think that would be smart to do in fact Chris I think that would be a big red flag waving for Isis to reconstitute itself the goal here is to take back mosul it's going to be a hard fight I've got no uh Illusions about that and then continue to press into Syria to begin to take back and move on rqo which is the Isis headquarters I am hopeful that the hard work that American uh military advisers have done will pay off and that we will see uh a real a really successful military operation but we know we've got lots of work to do Syria will remain a hot bed of terrorism as long as the Civil War aided and embedded by the Iranians and the Russians continue so I have said look we need to keep our eye on Isis that's why I want to have an intelligence surge that protects us here at home why we have to go after them from the air on the ground online why we have to make sure here at home we don't let terrorist by weapons if you're too dangerous to fly you're too dangerous to buy a gun and I'm going to continue to uh push for a no-fly zone and safe havens within Syria not only to help protect the syrians and prevent the constant outflow of refugees but to frankly gain some leverage on both the Syrian government and the Russians so that perhaps we can have uh the kind of serious negotiation necessary to bring the conflict to an end and go forward on a political track Mr Trump same question if we are able to push Isis out of mosul and out of Iraq will would you be willing to put US troops in there to prevent their return or something else let me tell you also so sad we had mosul but when she left when she took everybody out we lost mosul now we're fighting again to get mosul the problem with mosul and what they wanted to do is they wanted to get the leaders of Isis who they felt were in mosul about three months ago I started reading that they want to get the leaders and they're going they're going to attack mosul whatever happened to the element of surprise okay we announced we're going after M I've been reading about going after mosul now for about how long is it h three months these people have all left they've all left the element of surprise Douglas MacArthur George Patton spinning in their graves when they see the stupidity of our country so we're now fighting for muscle that we had all she had to do is stay there now we're going into to get it but you know who the big winner in musul is going to be after we eventually get it and the only reason they did it is because she's running for the office of President and they want to look tough they want to look good he violated the Red Line in the Sand and he made so many mistakes made all mistakes that's why we have the Great Migration but she wanted to look good for the election so they're going and but who's get muscle really we'll take muscle eventually by the way if you look at what's happening much tougher than they thought much much tougher much more dangerous going to be more death than they thought but the leaders that we wanted to get are all gone because they're smart they say what do we need this for so mosul is going to be a wonderful thing and Iran should write us a letter of thank you just like the really stupid the stupidest deal of all time a deal that's going to give Iran absolutely nuclear weapons Iran should write us yet another letter saying thank you very much because Iran as I said many years ago Iran is taking over Iraq something they've wanted to do forever but we've made it so easy for them so we're now going to take musul and you know who's going to be the beneficiary Iran boy are they making I mean they are outsmarting look you're not there you might be involved in that decision but you were there when you took everybody out of mosul and out of Iraq you shouldn't have been in Iraq but you did vote for it you shouldn't have been in Iraq but once you were in Iraq you should have never left the way the point is the winner is going to be Iran well you know once again uh Donald is implying that he didn't support the invasion of Iraq I said it was a mistake I've said that years ago he has consistently denied what is a very clear fact that before The Invasion he supported it and you know I just want everybody to go Google it Google Donald Trump Iraq and you will see the dozens of sources which verify that he was for the invasion of Iraq wrong and you can actually hear the audio of him saying that now why does that matter well it matters because he has not told the truth about that position I guess he believes it makes him look better now to contrast with me because I did vote for it but what's really important here is to understand all the interplay mosul is a Sunni city mosul is on the border of Syria and yes we do need to go after baghdaddy and uh just like we went after uh Bin Laden uh while you were doing Celebrity Apprentice and we brought him to Justice we need to go after the leadership but we need to get rid of them get rid of their Fighters they estimated several thousand fighters in mosul they've been digging underground they've been prepared to defend it's going to be tough fighting but I think we can take back mosul and then we can move on into Syria and take back raqa this is what we have to do I'm I'm just amazed that he seems to think that the Iraqi government and our allies and everybody else launched uh the attack on mosul to help me in this election but that's how Donald thinks you know he always is looking for some gain has all is taking over secetary Clon is taking overa secretary surpr wait wait wait secretary Clinton it's an open discussion secretary have gained they did it please let Mr Trump's face unfit and he proves it every time you are the one that's unfit you know Wikileaks just actually came out John podesta said some horrible things about you and boy was he right he said some Beauties and you know Bernie Sanders uh he said you have bad judgment you do and if you think that going into mosul after we let the world know we're going in and all of the people that we really wanted the leaders they're all gone if you think that was good then you do now John podesta said you have terrible instincts Bernie Sanders said you have bad judgment I agree with both well you should ask Bernie Sanders who he's supporting for president and he has said campaigned for me around the country you are the most dangerous person to run for president in the modern history of America I think he's right let's turn to Aleppo Mr Trump in the last debate you were both asked about the situation in the Syrian city of Aleppo and I want to follow up on that because you said several things in that debate which were not true sir you said that Aleppo has basically fallen in fact there in fact there are it's a catastrophe it is a catastrophe but there there are a quarter have you seen it have you seen it sir have you seen what's happened to aleo finished my question okay so it hasn't fallen take a look at it well there are a quarter of a million people still living there and being slaughtered right you also and they are being slaughtered because of bad decisions if I may just finish here and you also said that Isis that Syria and Russia are busy fighting Isis in fact they have been the ones who've been bombing and shelling Eastern alapo uh and they just announced a humanitarian pause in effect admitting that they have been bombing and shelling Aleppo would you like to clear that up well Aleppo is a disaster it's a humanitarian nightmare but it has fallen from the St from any standpoint I mean what do you need a sign document take a look at Aleppo it is so sad when you see what's happened and a lot of this is because of Hillary Clinton because what's happened is by fighting Assad who turned out to be a lot tougher than she thought and now she's going to say oh he loves Assad she's just he's just much tougher and much smarter than her and Obama and everyone thought he was gone two years ago three years ago he aligned he aligned with Russia he now also aligned with Iran who we made very powerful we gave them $150 billion do back we give them 1.7 billion in cash I mean cash bundles of cash as big as this stage we gave them $ 1.7 billion now they have lined he has aligned with Russia and with Iran they don't on Isis but they have other things because we're backing we're backing Rebels we don't know who the rebels are we're giving them lots of money lots of everything we don't know who the rebels are and when and if and it's not going to happen because you have Russia and you have Iran now but if they ever did overthrow Assad you might end up with as bad as Assad is and he's a bad guy but you may very well end up with worse than Assad if she did nothing we'd be in much better shape and this is what's caused the Great Migration where she's taking in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees who probably in many cases not probably who are definitely in many cases Isis aligned and we now have them in our country and wait till you see this is going to be the great Trojan Horse and wait till you see what happens in the coming years lots of luck Hillary thanks a lot for doing a great job secretary Clinton you have talked about and in the last debate and again today that you would impose a no-fly zone to try to protect the people of Aleppo and to Stop The Killing there President Obama has refused to do that because he fears it's going to draw us closer or deeper into the conflict and general Joseph Dunford the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says you impose a no fly zone chances are you're going to get into a war his words with Syria and and Russia so the question I have is if you impose a no fly zone first of all how do you respond to their concerns secondly if you impose a no fly zone and a Russian plane violates that does President Clinton shoot that plane down well Chris first of all I think a no-fly zone could save lives and could hasten the end of the conflict I am well aware of the really legitimate concerns that you have expressed from both the president and the general um this would not be done just on the first day this would take a lot of negotiation and would also take making it clear to the Russians and the syrians that our purpose here was to provide safe zones on the ground we've had millions of people leave Syria and those millions of people uh inside Syria who've been dislocated so I think we could strike a deal and make it very clear uh to the Russians and the syrians that this was something that we believe was in the best interests of the people on the ground in Syria it would help us with our fight against Isis but I want to respond to what Donald said about refugees he's made these claims repeatedly I am not going to let anyone into this country who is not vetted who we do not have confidence in but I am not going to slam the door on women and children I that picture of that little four-year-old boy in Aleppo with the blood coming down his face while he sat in an ambulance is haunting and so we are going to do very careful thorough vetting that does not solve our internal challenges with Isis and our need to stop radicalization to work with American Muslim communities who are on the front lines to identify and prevent attacks in fact the killer of the dozens of people at the nightclub in Orlando the Pulse Nightclub was born in Queens the same place Donald was born so let's be clear about what the threat is and how we are best going to be able to meet it and yes some of that threat emanates from over in Syria and Iraq and we've got to keep fighting and I will defeat Isis and some of it is we have to up our game and be much smarter here at home folks I want to get into our final seg but but I just have to it's it's so ridiculous what you she will defeat Isis we should have never let Isis happen in the first place and right now they're in 32 countries you should have never wait one second they had a ceasefire three weeks ago a ceasefire United States Russia Syria and during the ceasefire Russia took over vast swatches of land and then they said we don't want the ceasefire anymore we are so outplayed on missiles on ceasefires they are outplayed now she wasn't there I assumed she had nothing to do with it but our country is so outplayed by Putin and Assad and by the way and by Iran nobody can believe how stupid our leadership is Mr Trump secretary Clinton no we need to move on to our final segment and that is the national debt which has not been discussed until tonight our national debt as a share of the economy our GDP is now 77% that's the highest since just after World War II but the nonpartisan committee for a responsible federal budget says secretary Clinton under your plan debt would rise to 86% of GDP over the next 10 years Mr Trump under your plan they say it would rise to 5% of GDP over the next 10 years question is why are both of you ignoring ing this problem Mr Trump you go first well I say they're wrong because I'm going to create tremendous jobs and we're bringing GDP from really 1% which is what it is now and if she got in it'll be less than zero uh but we're bringing it from 1% up to 4% and I actually think we can go higher than 4% I think you can go to five or 6 per. and if we do you don't have to bother asking your question because we have a tremendous machine we will have created a TR tremendous economic machine once again to do that we're taking back jobs we're not going to let our companies be raid by other countries where we lose all our jobs we don't make our product anymore it's very sad but I'm going to create a the kind of a country that we were from the standpoint of Industry we used to be there we've given it up we've become very very sloppy we've had people that are political hacks making the biggest deals in the world bigger than companies you take these big companies these trade deals are far bigger than these companies and yet we don't use our great leaders many of whom back me and many of whom back Hillary I must say but we don't use those people those are the people these are the greatest negotiators in the world we have the greatest business people in the world we have to use them to negotiate our trade deals we use political hacks we use people that get the position because they gave they made a campaign contribution and they're dealing with China and people that are very much smarter than they are so we have to use our great people but with that being said we will create an economic machine the likes of which we haven't seen in many decades and people Chris will again go back to work and they'll make a lot of money and we'll have companies that will grow and expand and start from new secretary Clinton well first when I when I hear Donald talk like that and know that his slogan is make America great again I wonder when he thought America was great uh and before uh he uh rushes and says you know before you and President Obama were there I think it's important to recognize that he has been criticizing um our government for decades you know back in 1987 he took out a $100,000 ad in the New York Times during the time when President Reagan was President and basically said exactly what he just said now that we were the laughing stock of the world he was criticizing President Reagan this is the way Donald thinks about himself puts himself into you know the middle and says you know I alone can fix it as he said on the convention stage but if you look at the debt which is the issue you asked about Chris I pay for everything I'm proposing I do not add a penny to the national debt I take that very seriously because I do think it's one of the issues we've got to come to grips with so when I talk about how we're going to pay for Education how we're going to invest in infrastructure how we're going to get the cost of prescription drugs down and a lot of the other issues that people talk to me about all the time I've made it very clear we are going where the money is we are going to ask the wealthy and corporations to pay their fair share and there is no evidence whatsoever that that will slow down or diminish our growth in in fact I think just the opposite we'll have what economists call middle out growth we've got to get back to rebuilding the middle class the families of America that's where growth will come from that's why I want to invest in you I want to invest in your family and I think that's the smartest way to grow the economy to make the economy fairer and we just have a big disagreement about this it may be because of our experiences you know he started off with his dad as a millionaire I started off with my dad as a small businessman we've heard this before I think it's you know it's a difference that affects how we see the world and what we want to do with the economy Tom thank you Hillary could I just respond well no well no because IE with Ronald Reagan very strongly on trade I disagreed with him we should have been much tougher on trade even then I've been waiting for years Nobody Does it right and frankly now we're going to do it right all right I the one last area I want to get into with you in this debate is the fact that the biggest driver of our debt is entitlements which is 60% of all federal spending now the committee for federal uh responsible federal budget has looked at both of your plans and they say neither of you has a a serious plan that is going to solve the fact that that Medicare is going to run out of money in the 2020s Social Security is going to run out of money in the 2030s and and at that time recipients are going to take huge cuts in their benefits so in effect the final question I want to ask you in this regard is and let me start with you Mr Trump would president president Trump make a deal to save Medicare and Social Security that included both tax increases and benefit Cuts in effect a grand bargain on entitlements I'm cutting taxes we're going to grow the economy it's going to grow at a record rate but that's not going to help an entitlement it's going to totally help you and one thing we have to do repeal and replace the disaster known as Obamacare it's destroying our country it's destroying our businesses our small business and our big businesses we have to repeat and replace Obamacare you take a look at the kind of numbers that that will cost us in the year 17 it is a disaster if we don't repeal and replace now it's probably going to die of its own weight but Obamacare has to go it's the premiums are going up 60 70 80% next year they're going to go up over a 100% And I'm really glad that the premiums have started at least the people see what's happening because she wants to keep Obamacare and she wants to make it even worse and it can't get any worse bad Health Care at the most expensive price we have to repeal and replace Obamacare and secretary Clinton same question because at this point Social Security and Medicare are going to run out the trust funds are going to run out of money will you as president entertain will you consider a a grand bargain a deal that includes both tax increases and benefit cuts to try to save both programs well Chris I am on record as saying that we need to put more money into the Social Security trust fund that's part of uh my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy my Social Security payroll contribution will go up as will Donalds assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it uh but what we want to do is to replenish the Social Security trust fund by making sure that we have sufficient resources and that will come from either raising the cap Andor finding other ways to get more money into it I will not cut benefits I want to enhance benefits for lowincome workers and for women who have been disadvantaged by the current Social Security System but what Donald is proposing with these massive tax cuts will result in a 20 trillion additional national debt that will have dire consequences for Social Security and Medicare and I'll say something about the Affordable Care Act which he wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act extended the solvy of the Medicare trust fund so if he repeals it our Medicare problem gets worse what we need to do is go after H disag the long-term Health Care drivers we've got to get cost down increase value emphasize Wellness I have a plan for doing that and I think that we will be able to get entitlement spending under control by with more resources and smarter decisions this this is the final time probably to both of your Delight that you're going to be on a stage together in this campaign I would like to end it on a positive note you had not agreed to uh closing statements but it seems to me in a funny way that might make it more interesting because you haven't prepared closing statements so I'd like you each to take and we're going to put a clock up a minute as the final question and the final debate to tell the American people why they should elect you to be the next president this is another new Mini segment secretary Clinton it's your turn to go first well I would like to um say to everyone watching tonight uh that I'm reaching out to all Americans Democrats Republicans and independents because we need everybody to help make our country what it should be to grow the economy to make it fairer to make it work for everyone we need your talents your skills your commitment your energy your ambition you know I've been privileged to see the presidency up close and I know the awesome responsibility of protecting our country and the incredible opportunity of working to try to make life better for all of you I have made the cause of Children and Families uh really my life's work that's what my mission will be in the presidency I will stand up for families against powerful interests against corporations I will do everything that I can to make sure that you have good jobs with Rising incomes that your kids have good educations from preschool through college I hope you will give me a chance to serve as your president secretary Clinton thank you Mr Trump she's raising the money from the people she wants to control doesn't work that way but when I started this campaign I started it very strongly it's called make America great again we're going to make America great we have a depleted military it has to be helped has to be fixed we have the greatest people on Earth in our military we don't take care of our veterans we take care of illegal immigrants people that come into the country illegally better than we take care of our vets that can't happen our policemen and women are disrespected we need Law and Order but we need Justice too our inner cities are a disaster you get shot walking to the store they have no education they have no jobs I will do more for African-Americans and Latinos than she can ever do in 10 lifetimes all she's done is talk to the African-Americans and to the Latinos but they get the vote and then they come back they say we'll see you in four years we are going to make America strong again and we are going to make America great again and it has to start now we cannot take four more years of Barack Obama and that's what you get when you get her thank you both secretary Clinton hold on just a moment folks secretary Clinton Mr Trump I want to thank you both for participating in all three of these debates that brings to an end this year's debate sponsored by the commission on presidential debates we want to thank the University of Nevada Las Vegas and its students for having us now the decision is up to you while Millions have already voted Election Day November 8th is just 20 days away one thing everyone here can agree on we hope you will go vote it is one of the honors and obligations of living in this great country thank you and good night [Applause] [Music]

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Length: 93min 16sec (5596 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 20 2016