FNC vs. VIT | 2021 LEC Spring Week 2 Day 1

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[Music] hello and welcome back to the lec for fanatic versus vitality we should name them at some point i don't know what it is let us know on twitter at llc one is named bert i don't know what the big one is named but we'll uh they're trying to look better than us obviously you guys are good at voting because odawamne lost that last poll so clearly you can also help us decide the name of the caster borrows um we have a minute we didn't vote odo just a radical we're you know we're impartial we didn't we don't yeah we're sure we wash our hands so don't blame us okay yeah blame whoever whoever voted for it right it's we love everybody equally that's just it's true um overall of course we are waiting for final first vitality we're about a minute out from the game and i think this one is going to be interesting because it's an opportunity for both these teams to show us a little bit more for team vitality last week there were some good moments there were some bad moments i loved the ash talia combo with these like huge cross-range engages and a similar story fnatic on the opposite side where they had two games that were i don't want to say clown town but kind of clown town they just bought all the time yeah and then game three where they played really really well so what version of both of these teams do we see this week well i think also one of the biggest things is we'll have a clear separation in the standings because the winner will move into two and two more the loser will move to one and three and i think that that at this early on in the season is also really valuable um just because of uh how these early matches can heavily impact the the things like tiebreakers especially later on to the season i think that when you're super close to people like as team like fanatic i think it's really important for them to separate themselves from the rest of the pack right i think that for a long time they have always been considered a top three team in europe just because of the pedigree of players that they have and that doesn't really change for this roster either so i think that as you rightly said for fnatic right now we're looking to see a little bit more of the precision some of the little more restraint that we saw from last time because i was actually quite happy with a lot of their drafts i thought that they the decisions that they made were fine but it was just when it got into game it felt like that their foot was on the pedal and it just didn't come off when when we saw them play in the future and the rogue game is a perfect example of that where rogue had way more globals and or semi-globals and fnatic would fight with like a one-man advantage not respecting that two people could show up in a moment and they'd fight anyway and they'd trade you know one for two but not really something you can afford to do because over time those little one for twos they might look nice when your affiliates is getting some kills but ultimately you are losing out over and over and those differences do add up um that said on the vitality side it's gonna be interesting to see i think overall how well this team continues to grow because remember vitality despite having difficult season despite having a difficult placing even though they did show some good things have basically doubled down on their roster from last season they've added to gender on the top side of the map and this is a guy who i think we're kind of waiting to figure out where he works overall in the bigger scheme of things but i am excited to see how he stacks up against blippo uh yeah i am as well i think that uh vitality have a lot of good players and i think that they have already showcased multiple times that they can compete with some of the best teams that we have here in the lec on an individual level where they lack is ultimately their macro their objective setups their wave control their vision like so much about this is what they ultimately lack which you hope can be built with time because now that they have more time with this roster it's obviously easier to develop and grow but the problem is how long will it take for them to get to that point because the caliber obviously exists um i do and usually as a workaround when you don't have the strongest macro you just draft straightforward compositions right you make it easier for you to execute upon a game plan which is just a lot more straightforward and i think that when we saw the ash comp it was very straightforward you know it the way in which executed was uh very easy to do and very easy to play so i think that while vitality are still developing and learning these skills i want to see something a little bit more straightforward from them like the more 5v5 focus comps um because i think that that best sets them up for success and i agree i like it overall um and sad to see team by tony ban to leo after scheme's had such a fantastic performance on it but everyone is leaving olaf up is it 100 win rate today he got clapped in scrims this week on this patch and people are overreacting that is my theory because obviously he still looks so good a little bit i think the first game we cast game three of the day he looked broken in the hands of yankos inspired incredibly strong early game but maybe not as strong in those late game fights so i have to see what version of the olaf we get in this one but it is the nidalee leona and right off the bat betty you said easy execution and let me tell you as easy as it seems to land a spear on a stun target players have missed it and i'm all i'm saying is this is a hard champ to make work and most certainly has not been super successful in the lac i'm i'm a bit of a nidalee skeptic i don't really like her i think that for her to work you have to have like a really good understanding of the champion how she works well with the laners that you have to it's just yeah she's tough especially against an olaf so like we'll see what else is built around her because right now fnatic have olaf they have kaiser if they get themselves in alistar they're chilling right like that is super meta i think that it gives you a really good core right and renekton also works okay uh i think i'll take three champions that were pretty much 100 presents in week one yeah i think that renekton is obviously a hot topic because i think here in europe gragas has been like a good answer to it when uh whipple played this matchup last week on the gragas side he actually kind of got destroyed by it part of the reason why we think here it's so good too is obviously because of that match because of that specific game but important to note that by taking the renekton you have denied the nidalee renekton combination which if you want in italy to work that is the simplest way to make that champion put out a good amount of damage gonna go to value out of it but it is the xayah vs kaiser matchup i love it the closer we get to 2019 i feel like the closer we get to good league of legends this is one of my favorite bot lane matchups so excited to see it again uh yeah oh yeah 2019 i remember that worlds where it was only zire and kaiser yeah um anyway we see mid lane bands down towards uh from vitality rather both syndra and zoe i think are well i think they synergize very well with what fnatic is trying to do you know like uh strong poke tools easy setup great pick potential like and it gives you priority in lane which is exactly what the olaf wants right when you have the renekton ideally you want to get a lane that can easily bully the opposition and i think they're both um orianna and zoe do that i think fnatic's best bet if they want priority is ori right now i think that it's probably the safest blind um especially when you look at like the mid pool that i think this usually goes towards the rel oh real is interesting this is a champion that we still haven't seen too much obviously we've seen a lot more internationally uh lck seems to like her a lot and i'm i'm i'll say my opinion still out you know journey's still out on this one for me we're gonna have to see how it performs in the hands of hilasang obviously one of the best supports in the league now paired with the orianna that you mentioned betty and certainly looking like they have themselves a pretty stable composition on the side of fnatic this vitality cop is so weird though i i don't know what they can do to really like bring it all together especially when they ban so many mid laners themselves do they have some sort of special they're going to go to the block okay so we saw the lead to bring in this out last week it's definitely a comfort pick for him but okay it's just the comp is just a little bit all over the place i feel because like you have a strong two versus two in the bot lane and it is strong you can get prior uh remember when we saw uh an ezreal leona play into a kaiser rail and they died at level one it was rogue's bot lane that actually ended up dying for sure um so like i think that zaya can also offer a very powerful early laning phase very easy lane to play around as well you can potentially threaten dives nah can also be a big lane bully up towards the top side of the map so i guess the more i look at it it feels like vitality you've just tried to get as many strong laners as possible now obviously the gnaw renekton debate is a very contentious one but either way i think what we're seeing here is vitality have just tried to draft themselves not only comfort but also a way in which they can just dominate during the laning phase we're gonna have to see how it works out as we get into our final game of day one here in week two fanatic versus vitality [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right no well all right here's the thing fine nothing is wrong now one thing that there's two things that i know most certainly it's one that melitsa is very good at leblanc and it's two that nisky is about to be the most happy in the world when he realizes he gets to buy merc treads and shut down all of the jungle mid damage early game uh yeah true treads have a lot of value this game um so let's have a look at so i kind of want to talk a little bit more about comps because like sure i mean they're kind of it's just it's like it feels like a general bag of good stuff so cypher through the good stuff what are we looking at here all right so okay all right so let's start with fanatics comp right because it's not actually all sunshine and rainbows either because their engage i don't actually think is the best um especially against this vitality comp so the thing about rel is that her engage is like fine but i think it's super telegraphed because she just jumps off a horse and while that can be a big aoe she kind of has to really close the gap now one of the cool things that you have is the kaiser rail combo which is that when uh kaiser dives in you can get that multi-man stun because it obviously follows through and you can like connect it with multiple people but i don't think that fnatic actually have the most reliable engage and when you have these comps which is like like this for fnatic what you want to use is early pryor to try and set upon the objective first and you force the opposition to come into you so that way people have to walk into the renekton and they have to walk into the olaf they have to walk into the space that the orianna dominates um and then basically gain control via that way so we're gonna be watching fnatic try and utilize things like the olaf in the early game to uh have that jungle pressure set up for this objective first and kind of force vitality to come to them the thing about vitality is they actually have an insane amount of poke on that copyright you have the gnar thanks to his q you have leblanc who honestly is a poke champion people don't want to acknowledge it but she is uw in you qr someone loses half the hp if you land the e as well that could potentially kill someone and then you kind of dash back so with these two in conjunction when playing around this objective they try and use things like the walls to bounce over poke the opposition down and then they look for a commitment and then because they have the leona they actually have a very easy way to dominate the other thing that i was going to comment on was that they actually have three pushing lanes but as you can see on the minimap that's not quite panning out now i like what niski's doing on the orianna trying to utilize the strong presence of his level one and uh scorch as well to just slowly poke down belita he got level two first that gave him control over the mid lane matchup wipo doing a similar thing in the top line matchup where he's just taking very favorable trades against the minion and he's able to get this lane prior as well and upset and hilasang just got to lane first they got into the brush and they were able to get this push so i think that the fact that they have so much control should have given self made the opportunity to set up for an invade chose not to do it oh but they're going for the solo kill the immediate flash out the tft emote that is not good for vitality that is not good at all he had a rough week last week definitely redeeming himself uh here in week two so not only is he gonna get most likely a tp advantage here he'll be down a flash maybe agenda tries to extend this one but that was a massive play and the big thing to note here is that gnar obnoxious difficult to get your hands on really annoying when he turns into mega gnar at the optimum time for him but very very squishy early on fleet forward supposed to keep him safe so the fact that blippo got multiple trades where he took out a third or half of sagendo's health before sagina got locked into that tower is just a death sentence and that's credit to blippo for knowing his window of opportunity to really dominate this matchup so for the record i personally am not a massive fan of not into an actor right i can see the arguments but i'm not convinced right now i know that there are people that stand much stronger on the side of not is a terrible champion into renekton and now they've just been given the greatest evidence and the renekton players can really abuse this one view on matchup and now that he's ahead it becomes that much harder for the nar to actually play out so um things are not going to go that much better for shigenda as the lane progresses you'll notice that this wave is not in a good state for him either uh blippo was able to reset walk back to lane lose no farm and still has his teleport so he can also make it cross map play they can threaten a dive bot their fanatic has so much options in this early game oh is he gonna freeze here okay no he's just gonna oh i like oh okay wait nice yeah yeah oh it's fine it's fine it really is fine it is totally fine i thought that he may freeze it there to force again to overextend but um he's it looks like he's just gonna look to push this underneath the tower and then he can either look for a row he can look to move around the map maybe look to even get a bit of deep vision down he kind of has a lot of options uh but i think the fanatic right now what they're looking at is an early drake they have a little bit of prior in the mid lane they have pressure in the bot and you can see that self-made is currently on the bot side of the map at level six this is a big deal obviously only five minutes and 30 seconds into the game wow we were so focused on top lane we're gonna maybe at some point have to take a look at how he got level six so very quickly but i imagine it comes up a skull he's got scattered three uh yeah he got all the scuttle crabs basically so they use that early prior very well and self-made has just been power farming through his own he hasn't even reset yet they're gonna wait okay moving in chains nisky no cleanse spears going to land big damage now coming in schemes has a fall with the flash out to safety meanwhile something into the body not getting a whole lot done is going to use all but comp no defensive tools available houston can activate the e here maybe a bit of a missed click is now they're pulling back in lebron flashing safety to heal the damage just barely he's living no hilla saying going to take it in the end i won't say it was clean but the end of the day fnatic get the kill yeah they certainly do and i want to see what the decision making there was from lebron because he chose to re-engage and i wonder if he tried to freeze them underneath the tower and then he kind of got locked up where he did not want to get locked up but either way fanatic find themselves with another early kill with the 1 000 goal lead and right now vitality just kind of getting schooled across the map so let's have a look at this so the engage comes through no knock up does land hillar sang then okay so self-made just hard commits to it he's like okay our land is slow we can go for this doesn't get stunned he'll come through hillasang does not land his stun clearly wants to connect it on to the old upper yeah and then lebron i think that he wants to try and root either hillasang or the olaf underneath the tower and then he ends up connecting all the way through onto self made who's on the back side and uh yeah that's not the position that you wanted to be in so banana gets themselves another kill yeah and normally i'm as i said i'm not the biggest fan of rel but when you strap her to a level six olaf who is very strong right now in the game giving him a stun or two seems like a surefire way to make sure that nidalee doesn't get to play the game we'll see if scenes can make it out of this one because he could be in for a brutal surprise that's gonna be a big stun the immediate follow-up skeins has to get out of his own jungle and here's the thing yeah he survives but he's losing two camps he's already down a level things are gonna go from bad to worse says nisky training even if with melissa so far but hillsing coming into the mid lane as well and this is the fanatic show right now videos because there's the tp we talked about earlier whip out now on the way in comp still level five bit anti-climactic climactic yeah he did pop the alt he was looking for the dive but oh no here comes the rest of fnatic they still want to commit to this the boys are here boys are here they are they're just going to funnel all this gold into upset yes they are and very generous of whippo to basically say i'll give up my lane advantage to snowball you or he'll eat this entire wave and then i think can we have a quick look at top wave observers let's have a quick look at what uh yeah that's perfect all right so that wave is definitely going to be lost to the tower you can see the amount of time i want to see yes renekton's going to reset he's probably going to get back in time to catch some of it but most of it will be lofton as you rightly said he was able to catch that wave at the very least the cs gap is going to close but whipple should still feel happy because the gold advantage gained for upset is going to be pretty significant as the flash comes through excellent lebron still just level five going to try to move through but misses the zenith blade skinner's on the way in but we'll not connect on the spear and fnatic winning out across the board 2k gold lead eight minutes into the game venice we want to know what version of fnatic we're going to see this week and this is one that we have not seen yet because this is absolute dominance yeah the pairing up of hillasang and self made just dominating in the early game and then of course the the solo kill coming out from whippo so we're still seeing that classic fanatic aggression we're seeing it from the same people that we're used to seeing it from but this week it is resulting in success it is getting them kills it is getting them gold advantages and it is paying off for fnatic yeah we look at it again remember week one was an emotional roller coaster if you're a fanatic fan because games one and two were a mess eight deaths at 15 minutes constant bloodshed you can see in that combined kills per minute 1.28 game three clean much more controlled and now we're seeing i feel kind of the third form which is an even stronger early game it's not even 15 minutes yet we've already got a comparable gold lead to where they were in that game three which we already considered so good from fnatic yeah i think that fnatic is showcasing that while week one was not their best performance they still have extremely talented players and this man in the jungle self-made like if you give him the ability to take control he will do it he has the highest cs in the game dracos of course when you kill jungle camps you do get four csp even for a jungler that is insane like this man is like mr efficient right now and obviously we haven't been able to track his whole jungle pathing but as soon as we have two junglers on the analyst desk they're probably getting very excited that the idea of how many camps have made it he's taken every scuttle yeah it's just how many times are we going to watch an olaf full clearance jungle today that's that's my question gage will ender queue it up like we need one more time appears to be the number because this is an impressive lead and we already talked about how difficult this matchup could be and i i think there probably is a world where nidalee gets a hedge you can jump over walls and that mobility you know that poke maybe she can contest the olaf but that is not this world and that is not this game because again that is a gore drinker it is 10 minutes into the game almost number one in cs although finally upset and blippa are pulling ahead but that is one strong olaf so whatever nerfs came through he is definitely out valuing them at this point in the game by just being so freaking far ahead 10-minute core drinker jeez jeez oh and now his free boots have shown up um and then this this kind of brings me back to vitality's calm i was skeptical of it when we saw it i'm still skeptical of it because i think that it is really difficult to execute like on paper you sit there and you think okay well they poke and then they engage when they've landed the poke but with how the lanes have been playing out with um how patient and how good your vision setup has to be and how well you manage your waves like i think it's only going to get harder for them because now with the lead the fanatic have they can just kind of force whatever fights they want so i think it's going to be very difficult for vitality to turn this game around especially as more and more plates get funneled in three have been secured in the bot lane this is going to be second up towards the top lane like fnatic are doing an excellent job of just dominating the other game absolutely are and this is definitely whippo self-made and hillar saying i'll show him in a big way upset nisqueev also played fantastically but kind of have just been doing their jobs in the lane whereas you've got this duo of self-made and he'll single roaming whipple getting that solo kill in the top lane and so maybe there's a world where vitalii are a little bit more even as we get closer to level six where comp has a few more defensive tools and lavrov has a little bit more engage options but that again is not this game they got shut down before any of those things came online and while football is still getting poked down and arster certainly still is a nuisance overall they're pretty much winning across the board and so i i kind of also want to use this as an opportunity to talk about fanatic at worlds last year because the world's meta we've already been talking about a lot today draco's like it's a jungle medal right it is all about it's also this matter yes the meta has not shifted significantly yes and so the world's matter was very much about funneling as many resources into your jungle as possible and that's why many analysts actually thought that fnatic could do better than g2 at worlds because of how good they are funding resources into their jungle and the reason why i bring that up is when you watch this game this is how you want to optimize in the meta like laners are independent has the only place self-made ganked was bought and that's because there were no camps left for him to take he was like i guess i have some free time so i may as well visit there and he didn't even commit that hard an opportunity just to rose but he hasn't gone top he hasn't gone made instead everyone's been playing for him they have been trying to enable cell phone as much as possible in the early game and look at what that is resulting in yep it's past that point now he no longer just needs to power farmers cece's coming in the bob cece there from helsinki as he pops the bonds agenda running for his life and blippo gonna grab that kill there so again the lead further snowballing is lebron gonna try to just get a little bit of vision back in exchange not a good trade overall look at this they they know that drake is spawning but they don't care about it instead they're gonna funnel as many plates as possible you know into self-made right this olaf is just gonna continue to snowball of course the renekton's gonna get some gold as well but this is a a more than worthwhile trade for fnatic and i just really want to highlight again how like fnatic's playstyle is optimal for what the meta currently is which is funneling resources into your jungler the roaming support style that helps colorful and look hilasang is helping his mid push out that wave right now it's not self made um it's a it's a joy to watch fnatic and i think it's a big sh a step in the right direction especially compared to what we saw last week definitely a good look uh and hard to be critical right in a game that is this much one-sided and i think for vitality um they will look back at this game and they won't look now they won't look at minute eight they will look at minutes one through five to figure out where things went wrong because at this point the gold lead it's not insurmountable but you're grasping at straws you're taking risks you have to do stuff that is putting you in a disadva disadvantageous state just to find any kind of advantage in the end yeah again like it's it's one of those situations where it's already so early in the game and i'm like wow good luck vitality yeah okay 15 minutes that's uh it's rough it's reminiscent of what we saw from rogue last week you know when they just funneled all those resources into place and what i think is super fascinating is how we have seen a huge increase in priority and rift held because of how quickly it can stop all the game obviously teams have prioritized plates for a long time they've always been considered valuable but this for the first time in a while have we gotten to see european teams successfully get early gold leads and snowball for the longest time here we talked about how g2 was pretty much the only team in europe that could like turn a 2k gold lead into like a 6k gold leads but now we're seeing so many more teams here in europe successfully do that and like we saw it from rogue we're seeing it now from fnatic and uh to me this is super exciting because i think it's really hard to do but if you do it well it can be very effective yeah that said what hilasang is doing here is unfair um yeah giving hope to vitality now remember that if someone hits the pink ward you do not have to fight them to the death despite any appearances otherwise so he'll say not clear that's communication error not clear if the team had called that they were oh that was just that was a mistake from hilly we know it was we could see nisky was made his ad carrier was taking a tower bot lane he just he shouldn't have been there dracos that was a yeah i mean a bad hillar saying yeah but it wouldn't be fanatic if hillary didn't do that yeah no that's not allowed it's very off-brand oh god uh yeah it's hard it's a whoopsie we'll continue forward the game as normal again still you know four and a half thousand holding the lead and obviously we're talking a lot about fnatic um but that's just because of the position that they're in right now vitality like you kind of want to sit there and say like oh they need to make plays but if they make plays now they're just gonna die because of how far behind they are they they kind of need to wait for their like mythic items at the very least to be completed they need to be in a better state where their chances of failure in a fight are significantly lower and i think that as the game i don't think that they out scale i think kaiser and orianna in these comps have a lot more to offer as the game progresses which means that they just kind of have to wait for one item and then they have to look for a good opportunity or a pick or a good fight maybe around the next straight um but like that's how dire the situation is already full vitality yeah and this key collapsing here just getting hillar saying itself made to shadow under him as maliki just tries to clear the way with his skills here and this is a difficult situation to be in fanatics are just steadily pushing their pressure forward pushing their vision line forward as we see here and as you both the mini map let's let's take a look yeah so you can already see how much vision control there is like already in the bot side of the map the wave was pushed in top and this also allowed the renekton to roam down now they have numbers advantage on here and molita trying to go for a play on doniski does get a good chunk of damage and this will alleviate some of the pressure but those bought side camps have now been taken away fnatic i want to see the resets right now they're clearing out a lot of the vision from vitality and this is all about dragon setup so when you look at dragons usually what you want to do and i'm going to bring the mini map because everyone's looking to reset right now so usually when you when you uh set up for dragons you want to primarily control these points these choke points right um so what you want to do is use your priority in in both mid and bottom push up and then you get this deep vision in and then you force that top side of the jungle to be completely dark then vitality has to invest their vision into clearing that which means they don't have any wards left to actually contest the river which is an area that a fanatic will already control now of course the downside of this is fanatic invested all their vision there very early way before the drake was even really ready to be set up for and then they decided we want red buff so they've now conceded all of this bot side control they also lost the bot portion you'll notice again i'm going to brand the mini map i'm pretty happy this is working again so they've gotten the push in here they have control over the scuttle crab as well and now all these fnatic members are also looking to reset two so what fnatic have clearly said is we don't care about drake you can have it um it's only the second drake of the game they're actually successfully being able to reset and because of how much gold they have they might not even care about the setup but this is the opportunity of vitality one if fnatic come and fight vitality now because they don't have the optimal setup for it they could end up getting punished and see would vitality do here will it just be they're just gonna concede everything they're gonna say yeah hello fanatic it was a pleasure we're going to leave now please please take all that bot side river no saying gonna go in not question me there's really no punish they didn't contest them at all they really just i mean i i admit the fanatic did just reset well there we go big damage cop gets one shot my god oh and the shock wave to follow up lebron now going to be in trouble but agenda comes in he's trying to turn it maybe that's going to be enough big damage though selfie to the back side that's the beneficiary of so much gold but the chains have been attached he's still unstoppable gore drinker is still a little bit too strong and melitza has to run for the hills it's going to take three dashes for him to get out to safety had to use the flash as well but fnatic went out on the skirmish so i acknowledge that vitality is probably a little bit afraid of how strong fnatic is but i felt like that with the control they had of the river that probably would have been the best place for them to look for a pick look to try and punish fnatic but they conceded all that control and infinite so you know what if you're not going to fight us we're going to fight you and then they just dive in the mid lane they get that pick and they're going to get themselves great that is it looked really good until the two champions who got hit by that gnar ultimate had gore drinker and starex before 20 minutes and then reality hit and reality hit hard now still able to find opportunities for hillary clinton of course going down again is football's run for the hills maybe it's some more damage here bubba's actually going to be in trouble he should drop here tp coming in yeah that's one skeins is here as well this could be a massive turn because that's the ori that's the fallout that's the knockout no matter how strong the olaf is nisky isn't and that's gonna be big money on to schemes okay right vitality they're able to find a couple of uh poorly made plays by fnatic um okay let's have a look back first at this fight so again they recognize that they now have full control over the dragon and whip was just like yeah i'm going to go in all the the combo from killer sang as well that's that whipple hilly synergy coming in clutch the wave lands on to lebron to keep him underneath the tower and as you rightly said this is a great alt from jagenda unfortunately for him uh it was the double gore drinker sterx and just look at the healing coming out from the olaf he does not care about the towers and fnatic walk away with two quick kills and it's brutal and the good news is nidalee now has the the oblivion orb she has that's the good news i mean at least it's something at least you got 800 gold from that place so you can buy it because normally when you're this far behind if you have to delay your build to go for healing reduction you're just putting yourself further into the hole so it's something better yeah and they did get those two picks in the bot lane and i i will admit so you know we said how uh the the gnaw haters will have that footage of the renekton solo kill we got footage see this is how nash should play into the renekton of course the renekton didn't have alt uh he doesn't have all right he doesn't have his arms fist or his whatever cooldowns and there's no way for him to dash through i win the 1v1 so yeah good punish there from giganda um but the ever so controversial debate between gnar and renekton being resolved in front of our eyes clearly where is it is uh wow the pokemage is getting absolutely blasted by the assassin here does a ton of damage meanwhile on the fight midlane we've got to fight if we go full screen on the bigger fight here as melissa gets run down that's gonna be one that's gonna be to the dash over the wall but he still gets shot meanwhile whippo going to absolute town trying to dash through so agenda on the run because self-made is just about unkillable schemes now has to run for the hills as well the axe lands there's a distance there to speed him up if he needs it that's the double kill for the orianna and a little bit of vengeance there even standing over his corpse and just devoting him fanatic got themselves an ace at 22 minutes into the game this has been an absolute slaughter and a definitely much needed sight for many fanatic fans after it was a rough week one they have come into week two looking dominant so let's have a look back at this replay we can see that fanatic just kind of setting up some vision control around the baron and whipple's like hey yeah i'm down to fight he engages onto the tank leona really great stun onto the ariana oh but a good flash from nisky actually avoids that cc and then calm he just doesn't have the damage like he's tickling whippo he's just wippo just doesn't get better yeah it's literally yes exactly who's a cute little crocodile oh blippo's like cute little crocodile or scary depends on which side of the coin you're on um and now as we look back this baron buff should most likely be the death sentence for vitality that said it is all things considered relatively early in the game so fnatic have to be really willing to to dive or split the map to find greater advantages or catch the blog as he's going to dash after safety pulled back immediately by the ultimate now maybe the thought of his agenda though he needs to stack this range if he wants to keep this going but with the olaf all down this early maybe they can turn that's the stair score drinker trying to heal up just a little bit more the rest of the team now moving in hillary fishing for the stun police is still running while going into that upset on the back side with football there as well a massive flank megan are the knockback though maybe just maybe sujenna can live the dashboard with the stride maker the knockout to safety cancelling this done from hill is saying he's holding on but still bad news for vitality wow fanatic really showcasing the number of assassins that they have on this team as they all just dive onto the back line very well played from them and they really are just throwing their wallet in the face of vitality right now 10k gold is the advantage with the baron buff running out in about a minute's time they should be able to at the very least knock on the doors of these inhibitor towers make it rain fanatic make it rain vitality holding on as best they can lebron i think mostly just trying to kill the creeps here knowing he's not really gonna have a chance to kill the champion so jenna coming in though can lay down a little bit more damage try to clear this one out but in the meantime upset taking down this bottom tier two bad news for vitality is they're gonna have to commit more members to get less done which means that if they over commit to any single play the fanatic can probably get some bigger objective back in response especially as we are now 12 seconds 10 seconds and counting away from this infernal drake which will put fnatic on infernal soul point it's that awkward spot for fnatic where they're so far ahead they're like they have to wait another like two and a half minutes before they can end the game it's uh yeah it's it's a difficult situation for vitality to be in like it also showcases how influential the draft can be and when you give some of these people some of these power picks how dominance they can be on it and self-made showcasing as well how great his olaf is 406 been involved in 10 of the 14 kills but we could be in some trouble now though or is that whole who's trapped in with who sort of situation you know he'd be coming in this key of course has the banshees which is going to block that leonardo which is massive but that's only gonna be one connected now we gotta keep our eyes on the olaf raid boss can they take him down oh they're not ready for the myth the grade baby comp backing off agenda now trying to chase maybe just maybe they can tell it's healthy but here comes hosting maybe he can get something done no the shutdown is massive but now upset coming in going to get the gale force to come out and finish off that kel's belief has to run for the hills agenda as well praying he can turn mini as fast as humanly possible for that extra little bit of movement speed but fnatic still despite everything despite the opportunities found by vitality at best vitality can go even in these trades wow two for two vitality five men strong tried to take down self-made and they nearly couldn't do it holy macaroni like let's have a look back at this place the rest of his team is backing off self-made like it's okay guys i'll cover your bases it's cool i'll just wait wait wait wait they're interrupting my base wait no no guys guys guys i don't think this is a good idea for you uh no no you don't are you sure you want to take this okay well shockwave then lands and then look at him just the amount of lifesteal that comes through he takes out the support first he almost takes out comp as well if it wasn't for that ultimate he would have died and then self made perhaps could have even gone for more meanwhile molita did get that kill onto the orianna into the backside but this is when an upset comes in to help even the odds as fnatic trade two to two oh and overall very close to disaster there i think good the vitality played it as well as they did the rest of fnatic showing up certainly made it a much more difficult play for them but at the end of the day self-made almost killing multiple people but not quite able to do so and nisky despite using the teleport does still go down and the play loses all those magi stacks which is a big deal and i think overall credit to vitality for finding a few opportunities here but sadly i feel like 10 minutes ago you were about to talk about how hey they're gonna get their first mythics and they're gonna have this window of opportunity where they've got some cc and maybe they can one-shot people sadly right after you said that there was about ten minutes of fanatics just raffle stomping yes and that means that this window that we could have talked about this opportunity the vitality could have had has kind of passed and now desperation is the best word we have for what vitality can do to come back and win this game they have to flip some coins and that is never where you want to be yep maybe they need to invest you know take that gamble i do find it quite funny that both whipple and self-made have the identical build their heads very exactly the same you know top jungle synergy trying to come in clutch self made now one versus three also has the goggles stone plate now which is also going to offer another amazingly large shield but that said no reduction that is not worth good sir that is a 45 second death time with a baron spawning in 30 seconds vitality um if you're going to sell now keep holding boys to the moon no no you need to sell soon like there's a very small window that you have that you need to try and take advantage of vitality the problem is like they're baron's not that good they have nidalee leblanc like the one tank is dead that concerts the paradigm so um yeah maybe they do need to keep holding hard to know how to know it's also not quite the same situation it's not even close because they're actually losing money yeah uh right now so the opportunity to get out past about minute three and now they're just stuck yup this is their life it's correct all right that said i like gargoyle stone plate itemization it did get buffed on this patch so that as you get hit you get more and more percentage resistances increase the activity so in theory it's a lot a lot of tanky stats to that really it's like hey two items so do you remember how in the last patch yeah gore drinker was really strong oh yeah yeah i remember so so a lot of those champions that used that was nerfed nice cool that make them easier to kill well well we also love this other item that all of those champions really like that they're gonna like yeah so they are hypothetically have less lifesteal but i'll tell you what in solo queue when that olaf is three levels behind he won't one shot you anymore true but on stage when the olaf gets three extra levels i'm not gonna say for free but on the back of some smart pathing and a very strong hit well you're kind of just back to 11.1 then aren't you now admittedly they were hard to kill before just because they had significantly more money now they're hard to kill because they've spent that significantly large amount of money on stats that make them very difficult to kill oh that's bad timing for this agenda has to leave down safety whipple immediately in the midst of the entire team the cc the follow-up now self-made running through the entire lineup level has been taken down melisa keeping the chains on but not going to be able to stop him the flash forward from hillesan getting the follow-up there on the mount up in the double kill for upset in the end skene's agenda gotta run because upset is very strong the flash forward the w gonna get the opportunity to go in there huh all right well at least it looked cool ghost gold in there for agenda probably wasn't gonna have another opportunity to use it so might as well throw out the stopwatch then and fnatic we're gonna go for they look really self-made saying they can end the rest of fnatic is saying no we can't we don't have enough of a minion wave so they're gonna go get themselves the infernal soul they can also maybe do the baron at the same time hilly can group up with upset yeah i think they're going to split their focus yeah three-man on the baron they're gonna have renekton orianna do the drake they're gonna take everything and uh it's just a matter of time now for fnatic yes it is it felt like it was a matter of time at minute 15 and it is most certainly even more so now with infernal soul and the baron as well and credit to uh vitality for punishing i think really hold on let's see how this fight works out whipple in the midst of an entire team niski still in the area as well schemes goes golden maybe they can get something done but here comes comp on the back side trying to finish off wifo overall though niski's agenda now coming in they're shutting down a few of these bear buffs important infernal souls still gonna be a problem but they've uh gonna deny at least a little bit of time from this baron maybe fanatic get over aggressive here all i'm gonna say is if i was self-made i would be pinging the mesh eyes in niski's inventory right now and i would be saying that's not very gold efficient isn't this key wholesome team environment is lebron almost gets one shot and the follow backs is gonna be there is we get a little bit of emo bm before ourselves oh zai is backing in the bush by the way okay they're gonna try to find the stun the side step but all from whippo comes in kelsey gonna look for the setup the football hill is saying duo legendary hardcore engaged bros gonna dash in not gonna find the cc's agenda pulling back they're gonna get hit but not a wave quite yet okay and they're holding folks um yeah what to say in summary of this game um what are you doing this weekend you got any plans uh the analyst desk tomorrow with cage oh that's cool i imagine we'll be talking about old often did you know that we basically have we had all three of our like top level polish junglers play olaf today so this fight was a demonstration of how when a crocodile is in its natural environment of the river it is it has an environmental buff that uh just makes it impossible whereas a robot when exposed to large volumes of water ceases to function appropriately that was really just a great demonstration of how the environment can really influence uh what you're doing so stay safe you know guys stay out there this is a now i imagine if you ever had to teach your your child league of legends you just teach him wrong for fun no you can't go on renekton there buddy he's in the water and he's what a crocodile not gonna work yeah yeah so you know brand just you can't you can't walk into the river you can't it's against it it literally puts him out like you just can't play it's not on fire anymore yeah not on fire however zach that's a little trivia tricky one is he really liquid who knows the non-newtonian fluid his blippo dives into the back side and lebron just gonna get absolutely one shot he'll sing for all the rest of the team it's agenda she's opportunity the three man he's going back but melissa and schemes are running for the hills they do not want to sacrifice what little kda they have left on the back of that nar play as the thumbs up come out and the fanatic victory is now assured it was 99.9 but now it is at 100 as fnatic are gonna end the game soonish anytime now there they go fanatic will secure themselves another win great start to the week for fanatic we already talked about it and how this is definitely what you want to be seeing from this banana squad a much better performance just an investment into self made i think that it is exactly how you want to play in this meta enable your jungler work with him set him up for success and the hilly self-made combo i thought was was was perfect for this game yeah flawless and i think let's recap really what mattered in this game because again if you just caught the last 10 minutes you're gonna be like wow this is a absolute stomp but the early game really was built on the back of good players synergy fantastic early jungle path and coming in from self-made and for vitality they really never got a chance to play the game on an even footing because of how hard fnatic came out the gate they were dominating from what felt like level two whippo getting solo kills in lane only adding insult to injury before those dives started to come in as well so if you're a vitality fan or i mean a vitality player just reset and come into the next one i just i we talked about in the track i just want simpler to execute drafts like the ash comp that they had last week was perfect it outscaled their opposition they didn't have to force anything they found a lot of picks i just kind of want vitality to not play these very difficult to execute comps and instead try and like reset a little bit more you know um this olaf also needs to kind of have another look for many teams not just for uh vitality because it's been getting through the drafts and as you rightly said yankos inspired self-made uh the three polish junglers are clearly dominating on this champion and i think you need to be careful when you're handing that champion out whereas nidalee as much as i'm sure schemes you were smashing scrims with it very hard to play on stage i think very very difficult that said lee on twitter whippo self-made upset vote for who you want self-made might be leading in my books though but we're soon going to hear from hillasang before nisky joins us in the post-game lobby so don't go anywhere [Music] [Music] back [Music] the systems are overloading we can't risk another game we need to take a break and regroup we're starting to lose our mind captain we cannot go back to elo hell last time it took us months to get out of it initiate break protocol hurry up yes yes i did it we did it we did it even the biggest champ needs a break [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the lec lor here and fnatic start on the right foot here in week two and i have listened with me to talk about the game because that was not even a close game not at all i mean you had a 3k gold lead at 10 minutes you literally set up a camp in their jungle after 10 minutes so tell me i want to know about the early game what your plan was and how i mean how were you so so successful at doing it well i don't think we had like a clear plan except like we had to like play around natural objectives like drake and herod and with with time it became very easy in the game because stop won very hard he sold off he might think at minute four something which shouldn't ever happen so that made the game very easy and then me and oscar played very good together so that made the game quite easy and we took a lot of drakes and herod but i feel like we didn't play very properly the mount the map because we took a lot of fights that were not very good and we just tried to like outplay them a lot of the time so i think that's why the game was not as short as it should have been still i mean a way better face than the fnatic we saw during the first two game and obviously first week being what it is uh still what do you attribute this success you had today compared to the flaws of last week if that makes sense um i think we are just getting used to playing on stage like the comps and everything is very different than in scrims and in general the environment maybe everyone feels a bit more pressured when it comes to like edc stage and i think we just getting used to it it's also our first games uh with uh the new coaching staff and with the new players in the in the team so it's just a bit different and we need a bit more time to like get used to like how it is on stage and how we should be performing but we're learning from every every game that we play so we just need a bit more time and we'll be like the team that we expected to be i guess i think it's super interesting because odo said something similar uh during an interview the fact that he was nervous doing week one and i find this interesting when you have experienced players such as odo such as all of you i mean with fnatic getting nervous even though you have a lot of experience so how do you explain the nervousness outside of you guys having to adjust with the new team well uh i mean everyone gets nervous when it comes out to like stage and whatnot it just sometimes like like for example for me audience for example if there was if there was audience i'll i'll be feeling more comfortable rather than uh it's kind of like streaming for a lot of years and i think maybe that's why i'm like nervous i usually don't get like that that type of nervousness that i have and uh i i don't know because i have new team and everything is new around me right now that maybe that's why but i don't know how to explain it okay hilly i'm with you here i cannot wait until we have you guys back at the studio honestly it's been so long now but um you were mentioning the new team obviously there's a lot of question marks around fnatic the new players the new coaching staff the new synergy you guys have so how has it been working with these new players and what do they bring compared to the fnatic we used to know last year i think they they bring different things because i think they're more self-sacrificial i if i could say that i feel like nisky is very team oriented player and he always sacrificed his even lead and he would not tilt because of it and he will like follow blindly uh a call of a teammate and like for example in this game like he died i think twice because of tp because he was called to tp somewhere that was really bad but he did it anyways and i have only respect to that and for elias or like upset he's very eager to win and he listens a lot to feedback and we are learning from each day and each game that we play and i am pleasantly surprised of what type of person he is because i expected something else because when i played with him in solo queue and doki it was way different expectations than when i have him in my team and just talk to him every day and i really enjoy having him met him that that is super nice to hear that you guys are getting along and uh yeah clicking already because it's always hard especially for support or a dual lane at all when you have to switch your duo you've been playing with reckless for a long time and i i know we've been talking about how much it impacted the fnatic the fatal reckless left but about you as a support i mean how did you have to adapt with upset coming in did you have to adapt to his style did he have to adapt how did it work honestly we still haven't like fixed who and why and how we should be playing because it's uh we're very like each other but also this often doesn't work because we are too focused on killing the enemy rather than playing the map or playing around jungle or around many things in the game so it usually ends up either like a 10-0 game or all 10 games so i i'd like this is not good but we are working on it and we are like very open to like um improving even from like if people tells me like you guys are doing this wrong then now we will both listen and we will like take it serious and improve and i really enjoy having this in my team i think it's very uh unique especially for like support to have somebody that really respects you and listens to you and to yeah to just listen to you and to play i like you also and okay less blood and more macro maybe for this bottle and fanatic in the games to come but maybe that's something your coach can help you improve upon yamato i know he's very famous and suspectful for the teams he's worked with um how is it working with him and what does he bring to fnatic well so far i've really enjoyed working with him i've spent a lot of time with him outside the game and we play like games like chess and having like cool conversations he's telling stories and it's kind of like relaxing and nice and i think he is doing uh good in the game as well like he has some iffy drafts but except that obviously jars are not only coach fault but when it comes to that we have to blame him and uh i think he has a really good draft today for example and i think that's why it made the game very easy and yeah i think he's great coach and i i'm pleasantly surprised as well about him all right well that's great i mean we went through all the team aspects building aspects everything now focus match of the week tomorrow mad lions how do you beat them um honestly i don't think there's like a like special like magic or something i think you just need to like play our game have a good draft and just take the good fights and have clean comps and i think that's how we're going to beat them and i hope that shows tomorrow all right play your game pick the good fights that's what i heard i'll be watching for these good fights hillary thank you so much for the interview and i wish you a great evening and see you tomorrow for the match of the week thank you and we're going to take one last break and we'll come back in a few for post game lobby with nisky [Music] you
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