Fmr. Federal Prosecutor: ‘Wisdom Is Not Driving The Day For Matt Gaetz’ | All In | MSNBC

NOBODY SEEMED TO CARE WHEN MATT GAETZ DID EXACTLY THAT AT LEAST NOT UNTIL NOW I’M JOINED BY TWO PEOPLE TONIGHT WITH GREAT INSIGHT IN THIS CASE, "NEW YORK TIMES" JUSTICE REPORTER KATIE BENNER WHO FIRST BROKE THE STORY YESTERDAY AND FORMER PROSECUTOR CYNTHIA OPSNY WHO SPECIALIZED IN SEX TRAFFICKING CASES. THE WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED SINCE YOUR INITIAL SHOCKING REPORT YESTERDAY? >> WHAT WE LEARNED THE LAST 24 HOURS IS REALLY MORE DETALL ABOUT THE ALLEGED EXTORTION PLOT AND LET’S KEEP IN MIND THE EXTORTION PLOT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CONGRESSMAN GAETZ ABOUT CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING. THAT’S AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON FOR MORE THAN HALF A YEAR. WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IS TWO MEN APPROACHED DON GAETZ. THEY LAID OUT A PLAN FOR HIM IN A CONVERSATION, THESE MEN SAID WE’RE AWARE THAT YOUR SON MAY HAVE LEGAL ISSUES AND MIGHT BE UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI. AND ALSO WHERE YOU HAVE MONEY THAT WE COULD USE IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING GREAT. DISAPPEARED AND BY SOMEBODY THE GOVERNMENT DECLARED DECEASED ABOUT WHOUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR A LONG TIME. THEY FELT THEY HAD A LEAD ON THIS AND THAT WITH DON GAETZ’S MONEY THEY COULD BRING THIS MAN BACK TO THE UNITED STATES. THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WILL BE SO HAPPY THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL BE SO HAPPY THAT CONGRESSMAN GAETZ WOULD BE PARDONED FOR ANY CRIMES DON GAETZ, OR SOURCES TELL US, FELT THIS WAS AN UNUSUAL DOCUMENT IT WAS AN UNUSUAL ASK. HE EVENTUALLY CONTACTED THE FBI. HE HAS WORN A WIRE INTO TWO MEETINGS WITH THESE MEN. AT LEAST TWO PHONE CONVERSATIONS. >> YEAH. AND THAT WAS THE WIRE WAS WHAT MATT GAETZ REVEALED ON TWITTER AND THEN IN THE TUCKER KARLSSON ASTONISHING INTERVIEW. CYNTHIA, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF SOMEBODY IS WEARING A WIRE IN AN ON GOING INVESTIGATION, IT’S NOT WISE NORMALLY TO OUT THAT PERSON IN THE WIRE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY’RE YOUR DAD, IS IT? >> NO. IT’S NOT WISE. BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING WISE. IT’S NOT WISE TO GO ON TUCKER CARLSON AND ACCUSE HIM OF OTHER SEXUAL THINGS. ITS NO THE WISE TO GO ON TUCKER CARLSON AND INSTEAD OF DENYING THAT YOU HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING, JUST DENY YOU TRAVELED ON INTERSTATE -- OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CROSSED STATE LINES. NOT THAT ANYBODY WAS UNDER 18. IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT HE’S DOVENLT HEDONE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THERE ARE PICTURES WITH ME AND CHILD PROSTITUTES. IT’S NOT REALLY WISE TO BRING THAT UP. BUT THAT’S WHAT HE’S DOING AND SO WISDOM IS NOT DRIVING THE DAY FOR MATT GAETZ >> CYNTHIA, JUST TO BE CLEAR, AS KATIE MENTIONED, THE ALLEGED EXTORTION PLOT IS NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO THE SEX TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATION, RIGHT? THEY’RE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. >> YEAH. THEY’RE TOTALLY UNRELATED. THE EXTORTION PLOT FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS RELATIVELY RECENT. AND THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE SEMINOLE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I MIGHT ADD THAT IN THAT INVESTIGATION THEY ARE UPPING THE PRESSURE AND UPPING THE PRESSURE HE HAD 12 CHARGES AGAINST HIM. AND TODAY THEY FILED 21 MORE THEY ARE PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON HIM AND WHAT THAT MEANS HE’S IN MORE AND MORE TROUBLE AND NEEDS TO GET HELP. AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ROLL ON SOMEBODY THIS MAN IS IN BIGGER AND BIGGER TROUBLE. HE MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT GATES IN ORDER TO SAVE HIMSELF >> IN YOUR REPORTING, WHAT HAVE YOU DISCOVERED IN TERMS OF THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MATT GAETZ AND JOEL GREENBERG WE JUST PUT THE PHOTOS UP WITH ROGER STONE. I BELIEVE HE ENDORSED HIM WITH CONGRESSIONAL RUN. >> YES, AND WE KNOW THAT GREENBERG HAS BEEN REALLY PUBLIC ABOUT HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH GAETZ. GAETZ HAS BEEN PUBLICLY SUPPORTIVE OF GREENBERG AND SUPPORTIVE OF GREENBERG AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER AS MUCH TIME AS YOU HAVE TOGETHER AND ALSO THEY’RE REALLY CLOSE SOCIAL COMPANIONS AND THEY WERE KNOWN TO HAVE A VERY ACTIVE SOCIAL DATING LIFE WE’RE GOING TO DISCUSS MORE IN THE COMING DAYS. YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT CRIMES IN THIS FIELD WHAT IS DOJ INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT IS DOJ INVESTIGATION INTO THIS WHAT POTENTIAL CRIMES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT LAWS ARE BROKEN >> THE PENALTIES ARE SEVERE. THE PENALTIES ARE FROM WHAT IT SOUND LIKE A TEN YEAR FELONY A CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF 18 TO CROSS STATE LINES TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM FOR ANYTHING OF VALUE. PLANE TICKETS ODDLY IN GAETZ’S STATEMENT, HE SAID IN PRIOR TIMES WITH PRIOR GIRLFRIENDS, I WAS VERY GENEROUS AND I DID PAY FOR PLANE TICKETS. IT’S KIND OF AN ODD THING TO SAY GIVEN THAT THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME. AGAIN, THIS IS A PERSON WHO NEEDS TO EXERCISE HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT AND REMAIN SILENT AND GET A LAWYER. >> MATT GAETZ IS NOT KNOWN FOR BEING SILENT THE LAWYER GAETZ ACCUSES OF EXTORTION SAID DID HE SPEAK TO GAETZ’S DAD SAID HE CALLED AND ASKED TO TALK TO ME WOULD ONLY SAY OF THE TALK IT IS A PLEASANT CONVERSATION OF A DAD CONCERNED ABOUT HIS SON AND THE TROUBLE HIS SON WAS IN A LOT OF THIS REVOLVES AROUND THE EXTORTION PART OF THIS REVOLVES AROUND THAT CONVERSATION HE SAID, YEAH, IF GAETZ WANTS TO RELEASE THE TAPES, RELEASE THEM. >> YEAH. I THINK WE KNOW THAT CONVERSATION IS THAT THEY DISCUSSED THE DOCUMENT THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS PLAN WHEREBY THEY KOSHGSCOULD FIND A MISSING AMERICAN AND BRING HIM HOME WITH GREAT TRIUMPH. I DON’T GET ANY INDICATION THAT ANY COMPLICIT ASKS WERE MADE THE THAT ANYBODY EXPLICITLY TALKED ABOUT A QUID PRO QUO. AND SO WHILE THE DETAILS OF THAT INVESTIGATION CONTINUE TO EMERGE, YOU’RE RIGHT MR. McGEE DOES SOUND VERY CONFIDENT.

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Length: 7min 2sec (422 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 31 2021