Feelfree Lure Overdrive VS Native Watercraft Titan 10.5 Propel

what you got for me these two are the ones I'm interested in right there you got a friend don't you you know the only does this for you alright guys so we got the drive all set up you see the rudder install back here we got the seat adjusters in place looking good you got height adjustment forward and backwards adjustment your hand control rudders right here and the drive itself I have it up here in the stowed position flush with the bottom now I do intend you guys to do a full walkthrough video but today we're pressed for time so let's go ahead and just get this on the water we'll do some initial testing and I'll get back with you guys tomorrow sound good so we decided it would be fun to put the lure up against the Titan 10.5 that's a new boat for us and seems to be a very very popular one so similar size similar capacity we thought it would be fun to put them head-to-head and just kind of compare and contrast they're not the same boat but maybe a potential same user the first test we're gonna do is a maneuverability test so I've got Matt here he's gonna be our test pilot and I told him to just a nice purple life jacket by the way to just come in tie here in a you know this is a spot that somebody would be likely to fish kind of spin it around tight and see how it feels feel does and it will run the tighten through the same course so it's pretty good let's start the Titan and see how it spins around there big weight difference the titans heavier yeah I think this one's about I don't know with the drive-in probably over a hundred pounds maybe 105 yeah it's gotta be it's a couple inches like two inches wider deeper do you like the depth better on that okay I wonder how it would be in the wind unfortunately know how many win today but that might you know does deeper mean more windage maybe not it looks really good on the water coming into the obstacle course let's see how this foot handles compared to the lures uber was pretty impressive but man look at that Titan just drift huh it does turn better it's got a little bit of tail swing doesn't it like almost like it's like a Tokyo Drift mobile you know what I mean like the back end slides around but there's no doubt the tourney radion that the turning radius all that tagging is much better I think because the rudder on this is moved forward yeah definitely I mean your your turning point moves forward so that is incredible all right that one will have to go to a Titan for sure maybe we should do out like a 1 through 5 scale a-five yeah I'm out of the pedal drives that we've been in we've been quite a few I'd say that's probably the gold standard as far as maneuverability all right well this isn't fun I'm gonna get in the water we're gonna do a little drag race right next up pull we'll drag it out okay guys so in our drag race we found an issue with the drive is we but we haven't installed but I neither side of the drive there's two screws that screw in and hold against the shaft those screws weren't tight we didn't check that before we installed it so because of the play it kind of bent the shear pin the kit comes with a second shear pin we put the new shear pin in and we're gonna go test it again so back in action let's go this time Matt wanted to take lure so I'll jump in the Titan and film him alright we're gonna line them up here and go for a rematch checking the high seat stability how's it feel way up there that is cool you got 10 mg points of adjustment so not only for backwards we also have mica justman on the wheel okay how about in the middle show me it like in the middle I don't like to recline that much yeah it's probably pretty that's like good ergonomics alright so we're lined up here let's do a drag race and your marks let's shoot for that white buoy get set go things pretty fast little tin football doesn't track super good gosh I feel like we're just dead match Matt maybe just a little huh all right I think the Titan 10:5 might have just a touch more speed okay I'll see it become that yeah I think so weird looking man look at things roll awake I think you are leaving me you look awkward his family I just can't get over like these boats are Lisa lure and slow to paddle but if flies when you're pedaling it alright okay so speed I'd say that you were about to say what did you say dude this Titan if you crank the handle it will want to buck you out of the seat look let's do a stability test now what should we do well just like stand to one side and see how it feels try to get both feet on one side of the drive you know there you go does it feel tipsy let me get a better shot of your feet here that's the lure eleven five I think it's about 35 inches wide it's really stable but it's kind of in a gold standard for a while but the Titan that I'm in hey let me pass this camera doughnuts to even talk about stability on this thing kind of seems redundant or unnecessary I'm 225 pounds all my weight on one foot impressive [Music] what do you say whether stability I don't know it's super easy to get into the front hatch it's super easy to get in the foot hatch that was not a practice I mean whatever [Music] all right well stability check this is probably five out of five I said lures of four out of five depending on your size you know Matt's 180 counts 170 what's up yeah but he was able to move around that pretty easily and I think up to like 225 250 lures Fleming stable if you're a bigger guy lots of gear having tightens words ah alright let's do the next test we're gonna do so let's just talk about some of the specifics here I mean let's talk about ergonomics you've been in both these boats quite a bit talk to me about ergonomics I like with this one that you can actually [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah so as far as economics go on the Titan you feel like you sit really high in this chair and the boat feels really deep when you're paddling your hips feel lower than your feet which is a nice feel you can get that in the loo or - but this just feels even more confident I would say in that upper position it's a backrest is a little taller one thing I do feel like I'm slouching forward a little bit and the lure I felt like I had more support underneath my butt but all in all it's a munis it feels really good I like to tighten 10 v Olano probably probably better than 13 v oh yeah as far as little things and ergonomics I like the foot pedals on the loo are much better they're wider broader and so they just feel like your feet fit on there you don't want to flop off but that's easy enough to fix you can buy an aftermarket pedal anywhere so kind of standard newer Roderick oh and use a turn upon caught toggle to steer your kind of sideways there you go sweet so it's deployable it doesn't turn quite a shirt but it still turns really really well better than any other pedal Drive up until the Titans but the Titans kind of set new standards the fact you can still pedal this or paddle this boat it's a paddle kayak that you can add a pedal track to it's pretty sweet last thing is price difference $21.99 for the boat mats in with the pedal drive with the rudder hand control it does how they do take a motor $24.99 for the Titan 10 v that I'm in I don't know you guys if it was up to me it would be a tough one I think this boat offers more versatility this boat if you like a tournament angler you just want a pelican pedal kayak go tiny you want something you're gonna drift rivers in and do other stuff I'd go lure ya in lure 13:5 probably going to be better I mean this doesn't have much water line so you know it splits the water and reconnect the water fairly short a 13:5 having more water line it's gonna give the boat more speed you guys I want to turn turn it 90 degrees if you just give the cutting back kicks with the rudder turn this thing turns basically in a circle and sound so back in just drifts around here we go you can literally feel like you're gonna throw yourself over the side from g-forces yeah 360 you just barely crank it I mean it's all much pressure at all it's amazing how easy this thing is to go especially for all why he does this I don't almost 40 inches wide yourself yeah the dexterity of this thing is unreal yeah just drift Tokyo Drift with the boondocks you can have more control I will suck the little rudder you get all this mass moving and it's hard to get it back in line the boondocks rudder just has so much more grip definitely could be the first thing I have prayed about that longer stiffer rudder [Music] [Applause] anyway the overdrive feels really really solid it tastes a little bit louder they do tell me that over time it's going to break in and get even smoother but it doesn't feel so let's go through our key points speed 1 out of 5 how did you rate that Titan 10 father we've seen three out of five on Titan maneuverability you can already touched on that this one I'd still give it a four out of five it's really good it's not as perfect as that I think yeah Titan I'd say takes it five out of five again on stability it's so ridiculous four out of five versatility yeah you have to give it to the feel free for sure I'd say versatility on a one kayak I don't think there's a more versatile cog on the market if you guys disagree leave it in the comments I know there's a lot of cool boats out these days but the ability to have a paddle kayak that you already own perhaps they can float rivers in but you can also add a pedal drive to it's pretty unique so I'm going to go ahead and give this a five out of five I'd say on the Titan three out of five it's kind of a one-trick pony is it yeah but what it does it does so good like better than any other kayaker I've ever paddled we have a lot of space I mean you're not gonna flip you might fall out of it if you're a little unsteady but you're not gonna flip it here yeah so each boat has its own place you guys this was a blast for us to get to test as always you come out here and you know try them out give us your own review but uh it's cool to have some neat options too in the shop and again every boat we sell we keeping the demo fleet is there anything else Oh fit and finish that was the last criteria overall fit and finish to these two folks one out of five like uh how everything goes how the drives feel how everything's laid out the quality of the boat overall quality I mean it feels really good the drive is a retrofit I'd say it does feel a little bit of retrofitting I mean this one feels yeah meant for it when I say that the handle it works well it looks a little more grindy than the native yeah I've given maybe a three and a half or a four out of five just because of that I would say four on the Titan I feel like there's still things that could've been a little bit stouter all the time yeah you know the seats a little creaky the pedal drive is good but it's a little bit of play I think there's a little room for improvement but not much it's really really good you got to give it to the native propel Drive that thing's been out forever it's pretty flawless man we've sold hundreds of them we've serviced a bunch and spot on the feel free drive feels awesome but you know time will tell we did have that issue with the shear pin I think it was from the manufacturer as a defect with the two pinch bolts not being tight enough time will tell so you guys this our initial thoughts we thank you so much for watching anything else you want to add ma'am go follow us on Instagram and Facebook yeah out headwaters kayak shop at Matt underscore man do Dan Arbuckle that's it from us yes thanks for watching sure to subscribe comment like and share with your friends we'll see you on the next one there's one difference of stuff to ignore the we on the keel one guy moving a boat out the poster this is a two men in a small boy

Channel: Headwaters Kayak

Views: 313,623

Rating: 4.7936964 out of 5

Keywords: Native watercraft, feelfree overdrive, Native propel, Feelfree lure, Lure 11.5, comparison review, kayak review, kayak fishing, fishing kayak, yak a bass, fishing, bass fishing, kayak bass fishing, overdrive, retrofit, test, review

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Length: 19min 11sec (1151 seconds)

Published: Thu Jan 11 2018