JONI LAMB: ARE YOU READY
TO LIVE EMPOWERED AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH
GOD'S WILL FOR YOUR LIFE? PASTOR VLADIMIR SAVCHUK
REVEALS WHAT IT MEANS TO REALLY KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW THAT HAS
IMPACTED HIS LIFE. IF YOU'RE ENJOYING
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ALL OF OUR LATEST POSTS. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ JONI LAMB: DO YOU REALLY
KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO
COMMUNE WITH HIM, AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE
TO WALK WITH HIM DAILY? WELL, TODAY, WITH THE HELP
OF OUR SPECIAL GUEST, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT. BUT, FIRST, JOINING ME
AROUND THE TABLE IS MY DEAR FRIEND,
CINDY JOHNSTON. CINDY JOHNSTON: HEY THERE. JONI: WE LOVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT. CINDY: YES. I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR HIM
EVERY DAY LEADING ME AND GUIDING ME. IT'S MADE SUCH A
TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON MY DAILY LIFE. JONI: YEAH.
IT REALLY DOES. BECAUSE HE'S A PERSON. WE THINK THE FATHER,
SON, HOLY SPIRIT, BUT PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE
HOLY SPIRIT AS A PERSON. HE'S A PERSON THAT'S ON
THE EARTH TO HELP US, TO LEAD US AND GUIDE US. WE'RE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THAT. DOROTHY NEWTON,
HOW ARE YOU? DOROTHY NEWTON: I'M
DOING SO GOOD. JONI: YOU LOVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT, TOO? DOROTHY: OH, I
LOVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. IT'S MY PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP. YES. BUT I'M THINKING
ABOUT THAT SONG, HOLY SPIRIT,
ACTIVATE, ACTIVATE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SONG
LIKE THAT, HOLY SPIRIT. [ LAUGHING ] JONI: I LOVE THAT. ANNA KENDALL, HOW ARE YOU? ANNA KENDALL: OH,
JUST WONDERFUL. GLAD TO BE HERE. JONI: AND
THE HOLY SPIRIT? ANNA: THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS MY COMFORTER AND HE EMPOWERS ME TO
HANDLE MANY THINGS THAT I COULDN'T
HANDLE OTHERWISE. JONI: THAT'S FOR SURE. REBECCA LAMB WEISS, YOU'RE ACQUAINTED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. REBECCA LAMB WEISS: YES. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS
SITTING DOWN IN BIBLE SCHOOL AND MY TEACHER STARTED
TO TEACH US STUDENTS - THIS IS AT THE
VERY BEGINNING - THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
WAS A PERSON, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE
STRANGEST THING EVER. I WAS LIKE, WHAT? AND I LEARNED IT'S NOT THIS
IMPERSONAL FORCE, IT IS A PERSONHOOD
OF THE GODHEAD. AND IN THE BIBLE, IT SAYS THAT HE IS
JUST LIKE JESUS AND HE'S THE
SPIRIT OF CHRIST. AND SO I BEGAN TO LEARN,
IN LEARNING HIS ROLE AND HOW GOD SENT HIM TO US,
JESUS ASCENDED SO HE COULD SEND
THE COMFORTER TO US SO THAT HE COULD BE
EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE WITH ALL BELIEVERS. JONI: YEAH. AND DRAWING MEN
TO HIM, YES, YES. REBECCA: SO
IT'S SO IMPORTANT. IT'S SUCH AN
IMPORTANT TOPIC. JONI: IT REALLY IS. SO JESUS SAID,
CINDY MURDOCK, IT'S NECESSARY
THAT I GO AWAY. CINDY MURDOCK: I WAS JUST -
YOU'RE READING MY MIND. JONI: OKAY. WELL, WE -- REBECCA: IT'S A
BEST-FRIEND CONNECTION. [ LAUGHING ] CINDY MURDOCK: YEAH, HE
NEEDED TO GO AWAY THAT HE COULD
SEND THE COMFORTER, A GOD, A COUNSELOR,
SOMEONE THAT - JESUS JUST WAS IN ONE PLACE,
WHEREAS WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IT'S ALL
OVER THE WORLD. AND WE ALL CAN HAVE THAT
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP. JONI: RIGHT. BECAUSE JESUS BECAME
FLESH SO THAT HE - AND ALTHOUGH HE
WAS FULLY GOD, HE BECAME FLESH SO THAT HE
COULD DIE ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS. AND WHEN HE LEFT, HE
SAID IT'S NECESSARY, I'VE GOT TO GO AWAY
BECAUSE THE COMFORTER IS COMING. AND HE'S GOING
TO EMPOWER YOU. WE'RE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THAT. WELL, HE'S A FOURTH GENERATION
PENTECOSTAL MINISTER ORIGINALLY FROM UKRAINE, AND SERVES AS LEAD PASTOR
AT HUNGRY GEN CHURCH IN PASCO, WASHINGTON. THAT'S WASHINGTON STATE. HE'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT IT MEANS TO HOST THE HOLY SPIRIT. PLEASE WELCOME PASTOR
VLADIMIR SAVCHUK. ♪♪♪ JONI: HELLO, PASTOR. VLADIMIR SAVCHUK: HELLO. JONI: WELCOME.
SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU. VLADIMIR: THANK YOU. JONI: ARE YOU READY TO
TAKE ON ALL THE WOMEN AT THE TABLE? [ LAUGHING ] JONI: A LITTLE
NERVE-WRACKING, BUT... VLADIMIR: LET'S GO. JONI: OKAY. CINDY MURDOCK:
WE'RE GENTLE. ANNA: HE'S GOT
THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE CAN HANDLE ANYTHING. JONI: THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S RIGHT. WE ALL LOVE TALKING
ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT LET'S GO BACK AND
SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR PERSONAL STORY. IT'S SO AMAZING WHAT ALL
GOD HAS DONE IN YOUR LIFE, AND THAT YOU ARE HERE. AND JOHN PAUL JACKSON, OUR
DEAR FRIEND, USED TO SAY, IT'S NO ACCIDENT THAT
GOD HAS ALLOWED YOU TO BE BORN AT THIS SEASON,
AT THIS TIME, FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? VLADIMIR: I BELIEVE THAT. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. I'M A FOURTH
GENERATION CHRISTIAN. A LOT OF TIMES, WE TALK
ABOUT GENERATIONAL CURSES. I ALSO BELIEVE IN
GENERATIONAL BLESSINGS. JONI: YES, AMEN. VLADIMIR: AND I REALLY
BELIEVE THAT THE SEEDS WE SOW, OUR GENERATION AND
GENERATIONS AFTER US WILL REAP AND BENEFIT
FROM THAT. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER
FROM MY MOTHER'S SIDE, HE SUFFERED FOR JESUS. HE WAS PUT IN JAIL UNDER
THE ATHEISTIC, COMMUNISTIC, SOCIALISTIC REGIME
OF THE SOVIET UNION. JONI: WHICH YOU
REALIZE IS SO DANGEROUS. VLADIMIR: IT'S DEMONIC. IT'S NOT ONLY DANGEROUS. YEAH, IT'S A DEMONIC
ANTICHRIST SYSTEM BECAUSE IT CREATES A
DIFFERENT GOD. GOVERNMENT BECOMES GOD. AND SO AS BIGGER,
ESPECIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CULTURE NOW
AND WHEN THE GOVERNMENT BEGINS TO TAKE MORE POWER AND PEOPLE LOSE THAT POWER, AND THEN SOONER OR LATER
THEY TAKE AWAY THE RELIGION, AND THEN THEY BECOME GOD. AND SO THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED THERE. SO HE WAS SENTENCED
FOR TEN YEARS, BUT HE WAS RELEASED
AFTER FIVE. JONI: SO YOUR GREAT
GRANDFATHER WAS ARRESTED FOR BEING A
CHRISTIAN, BASICALLY? VLADIMIR: SO FOR
TWO REASONS. THEY ASKED HIM TO
STOP PREACHING AND THEY ASKED HIM TO
STOP GATHERING. THEY DIDN'T MIND YOU
BELIEVING IN GOD. KIND OF LIKE REMINDS ME
OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING COVID YEAR, YEAH. SO JUST DON'T GATHER,
DON'T ASSEMBLE, AND THEN ALSO DON'T
TALK ABOUT IT. JONI: AND DON'T SING. VLADIMIR: YES. YEAH. AND DON'T TALK
ABOUT CHRIST. LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW WHERE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPRESS YOUR BELIEF
WITHOUT BEING LABELED THIS AND THIS
AND THIS IN OUR CULTURE. AND SO HE GOES TO JAIL,
HE REFUSES TO STOP, HE WITNESSES TO
PEOPLE THERE, AND AFTER FIVE YEARS,
HE GETS RELEASED. AND ON THE WAY,
WITH HIS BEST FRIEND, THEY WERE WALKING AWAY
FROM THE VILLAGE, AND THESE COMMANDERS
FROM THE COMMUNIST PARTY WERE RIDING ON A CARRIAGE AND
THEY ASKED HIM TO JUMP IN. THEY DIDN'T ASK HIM,
THEY TOLD HIM. HE JUMPS IN, AND THEY
STARTED TO BEAT HIM. SO HE JUST DECIDED
TO JUMP OUT, AND HIS FOOT GOT STUCK
BETWEEN THE WOODEN PLANKS, SO HIS BODY DANGLING
ON THE GROUND. WHILE THEY WERE ACCELERATING, THOSE HORSES WERE
RIDING FASTER. AND SO HIS BODY'S DANGLING
DOWN, HIS FOOT IS STUCK, AND THEN THEY WERE JUST
PRETTY MUCH STANDING OVER HIM. AND FOR FORTY MINUTES, THE HORSES WERE JUST
RIDING AROUND THE VILLAGE, AND THEY WERE BEATING HIM. SO HE JUST WENT
UNCONSCIOUS RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN SHORTLY
AFTER THAT, HE DIED. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF - I GREW UP WITH MY
PARENTS BEING BAPTIZED IN THE WINTER, AT NIGHT, SWITCHING CHURCH SERVICE
FIVE MINUTES BEFORE SO THAT THE KGB DON'T FIND OUT. SO US WALKING 40 MINUTES
TO CHURCH EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY, THAT WAS NORMAL. AND ME BEING TAUGHT,
EVEN AS A TEENAGER, THAT TO SUFFER FOR JESUS
IS PART OF BEING A CHRISTIAN. OF COURSE, WHEN I COME
TO THE UNITED STATES I LEARNED THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE GOSPEL AS WELL, YOU CAN ENJOY BLESSINGS. BUT I THINK THERE'S THAT
HEALTHY BALANCE OF NOT ONLY ENJOYING,
BUT ALSO LEARNING TO ENDURE. BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT
OF YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY, I CALL THEM SNOWFLAKES. THEY HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO SPINE. JONI: THEY ARE
SNOWFLAKES. TOTALLY. VLADIMIR: YEAH. SUN COMES UP,
HARDSHIP COMES UP, SOMEBODY THREATENS YOU,
TO CANCEL YOU, LOSE YOUR JOB
OR SOMETHING. JONI: SOMEBODY STOPS
FOLLOWING THEM ON INSTAGRAM. VLADIMIR: AND IT RUINS
THEIR DAY AND THEY STOP FOLLOWING THE LORD. JONI: OKAY. SO YOU SHARED
ABOUT YOUR GREAT GRANDFATHER. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO
A MIRACLE WITH YOUR - WITH YOUR TWO
GRANDFATHERS, RIGHT? VLADIMIR: WITH MY GRANDFATHER
FROM MY FATHER'S SIDE. JONI: OKAY. VLADIMIR: AMERICAN
MISSIONARIES, FROM WHAT I WAS
TOLD FROM MY DAD, CAME TO THE VILLAGE,
AND THESE VILLAGERS DIDN'T KNOW THE LORD,
AND MY GRANDFATHER, IVAN, HE HAD LEPROSY. AND ONE OF THE WAYS
THAT THE GOSPEL IS SPREAD AROUND THE WORLD IS NOT JUST BY
CONVINCING PEOPLE, IT'S BY DEMONSTRATING. SO THEY PRAYED FOR
THE LITTLE BOY, IVAN, AND GOD INSTANTLY
HEALS HIM OF LEPROSY. THE WHOLE FAMILY FROM
MY FATHER'S SIDE BECOME CHRISTIANS. AND ACTUALLY MY GRANDFATHER, WHO RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, HE REMAINED A PASTOR
IN THAT VILLAGE. AND SO I REALLY,
I'M INDEBTED TO THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
THAT HELPS THE GOSPEL TO PENETRATE VILLAGES,
CITIES, AND COUNTRIES. JONI: SO LET'S TALK
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, GROWING UP
AND YOUR BIRTH. WHAT HAPPENED? VLADIMIR: SO I WAS BORN
NEAR CHERNOBYL AND I WAS BORN AROUND CHERNOBYL. REBECCA: OH, WOW. JONI: SO THAT WOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN A GOOD THING, RIGHT? VLADIMIR: NO. REBECCA: RADIATION, NO. VLADIMIR: IF NOBODY
KNOWS WHAT THAT IS, JUST GO ON HBO
AND WATCH "CHERNOBYL." PROBABLY THE BEST
DOCUMENTARY SERIES ABOUT THAT INCIDENT. MOST ACCURATE ONE. AND SO IT WAS A
NUCLEAR EXPLOSION THAT COMMUNISTS ALSO
HID FOR MONTHS SAYING THAT IT WAS NOT. SO WHILE - ALL OF THIS
STUFF STARTS SPREADING, SO AT THE SAME TIME,
THE MEDICAL SERVICES AT THE TIME WERE NOT
REALLY GREAT. AND SO DURING THE BIRTH,
IT WAS NORMAL FOR SOME DOCTORS
TO COME DRUNK. COMMUNISM WAS NOT A
GREAT PLACE TO BE BORN UNDER, EVEN PHYSICALLY. AND SO I FIND OUT THAT
THE OPTICAL NERVE, AS A BABY, WAS DAMAGED
DURING THE BIRTH. AND FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS,
I ACTUALLY SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE HOSPITAL. A FEW TIMES
THEY SAID I DIED, SO MY UNCLE WOULD PRAY,
AND THEY RESUSCITATED ME, BROUGHT ME BACK. SO THERE WAS A
BATTLE FOR LIFE, EVEN WHEN I WAS BORN. AND THEN AROUND FIVE, SIX,
THEY STARTED TO NOTICE THAT WHEN I LOOK UP,
ONE EYE LOOKS UP AND ONE EYE LOOKS DOWN. NOT EVEN STRAIGHT. SO THEY HAD THE FIRST
SURGERY TO CORRECT THAT. AND THEN IT FIXED
SOMETHING, BUT NOT MUCH. AND MY PARENTS STARTED TO
NOTICE THAT I'M GETTING CALLED WITH NAMES
AND BULLIED. BUT WE WERE TAUGHT TO
ENDURE AND PERSEVERE. SO IT DIDN'T BREAK ME, BUT WHEN I CAME TO
THE UNITED STATES AT 13, IT REALLY HIT ME HARD BECAUSE I DIDN'T
SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, I DIDN'T HAVE FRIENDS, AND IT WAS A
CULTURE SHOCK. AND ALL OF IT
CAME TOGETHER. AND ON TOP OF THAT, SOMEHOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THE
CLIMATE WHERE MY HEAD STARTED TO HURT
EVERY SINGLE SUMMER, EXCRUCIATING PAIN. AND THAT'S WHEN I HAD
MY SECOND SURGERY. THE SECOND SURGERY HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH VISION. IT HAD TO DO WITH COSMETICS. HOPING TO IMPROVE
MY SELF-ESTEEM BY CHANGING HOW I LOOK. SURGERY WAS NOT
SUCCESSFUL. AND IT DIDN'T REALLY - JONI: WAS IT AROUND
YOUR EYE WHERE THEY TRIED - VLADIMIR: YEAH, THEY WERE
TRYING TO LIFT THE LID A LITTLE BIT MORE,
AND THEY SAID, WE'LL DO ONE MORE SURGERY, AND WE'LL REALLY RAISE IT UP,
BUT IF YOU GO TO SLEEP, YOUR EYE WILL STAY OPEN. I WAS LIKE, OH. CINDY: NO, THANKS. VLADIMIR: I WAS LIKE,
IF I EVER GET MARRIED AND MY WIFE LOOKS AT
ME, SEES A GHOST. [ LAUGHING ] VLADIMIR: SO I JUST DECIDED
TO STAY INSECURE INSTEAD OF STAYING AND
BEING COMPLETELY CRAZY DURING THE NIGHT. AND SO I REFUSED THE
THIRD SURGERY. AND MY PARENTS DID THEIR
BEST, BUT HONESTLY, MY PROBLEM WASN'T WITH
MY PHYSICAL APPEARANCE. MY PROBLEM WAS THAT I
DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS, EVEN THOUGH I GREW UP
IN A CHRISTIAN HOME. AND WHEN YOU DON'T
KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU DRAW YOUR IDENTITY
FROM WHAT YOU CAN SEE. IN WHICH I DREW
MY IDENTITY FROM MY BODY. BUT THE BIBLE SAYS GOD
MADE OUR BODIES FROM DIRT. SO IF YOU DRAW YOUR
IDENTITY FROM BODY, WHICH IT MEANS DIRT,
YOU WILL ALWAYS FEEL EITHER PROUD OR INSECURE. IT'S ONE OF THE
TWO SPECTRUMS. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE
DON'T STRUGGLE WITH WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH, THEY STRUGGLE WITH
SOMETHING ELSE. ARROGANCE AND PRIDE. THEY'RE WALKING AROUND
THINKING THEY'RE SOMETHING. AND SO RIGHT AFTER, IN
MY 13, 14 YEARS OF AGE, AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD
LOCK MYSELF IN THE ROOM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SO EVERY TIME
I HAD SCHOOL DAY, AND BECAUSE IT WAS VERY
PAINFUL FOR ME TO ENDURE BEING IN
THE CLASSROOM, AND I WAS EXTREMELY, I MEAN,
I HAD PARANOIA OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, TO THE POINT
WHEN I WOULD HEAR THAT WE HAD AN
ASSIGNMENT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A GROUP
OF 25 STUDENTS, I WOULD SKIP THAT DAY
AND SPEND THAT DAY AT THE BUS STATION. SO I WAS EXTREMELY,
JUST FEARFUL. I WOULD GO INTO COLD SWEAT
BEING AROUND PEOPLE. AND SO - AND I WOULD LOCK
MYSELF IN A ROOM AND JUST ALWAYS COMPLAIN,
FIRST TO GOD, WHY DO I HAVE
THE HEADACHES? WHAT DID I DO? I MEAN, I DIDN'T DO
ANYTHING BAD. WHY WASN'T HITLER BORN
WITH THIS PROBLEM, YOU KNOW? HE WOULD HAVE
NOT BEEN BAD. I MEAN, I HAD ALL
THESE ARGUMENTS WITH GOD AND THIS JUST
DIDN'T SEEM FAIR. I FELT LIKE GOD MADE A
MISTAKE BY CREATING ME. AND SO THEN I SECRETLY
ACTUALLY STARTED TO PRAY FOR GOD TO CAUSE AN
ACCIDENT SO THAT I CAN DIE. I WAS CONVINCED ON A
SUBCONSCIOUS LEVEL THE WORLD WOULD BE
A BETTER PLACE. I SAW HOW I WAS A
BURDEN TO OTHER PEOPLE. I ONLY HAD A FEW FRIENDS
AND I SAW THAT THEY WERE, I WAS THEIR, LIKE,
CHARITY PROJECT, SO I JUST FELT A BURDEN. AND SO I SAID, LORD, I
KNOW YOU MADE A MISTAKE. YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF. GET RID OF THIS MISTAKE. JUST LET ME DIE, BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING
TO TAKE MY LIFE.
I KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS
AND WRONG AND IT'S A SIN, BUT IF YOU END MY LIFE,
THEN YOU CAN FORGIVE YOURSELF, I'M OKAY WITH IT, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA
GO ON WITH LIFE. SO THAT WAS MY LOGIC. GOD NEVER ANSWERED
THAT PRAYER, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. INSTEAD, WHAT HE DID
IS HE CHANGED MY HEART. HIS PRESENCE WOULD BECOME
REAL IN THAT ROOM, DAY AFTER DAY, AND I LOST
SIGHT OF MY APPEARANCE. I LOST SIGHT OF MY BIRTH. I LOST SIGHT OF
ALL OF THE STUFF. IT GOT TO THE POINT
WHEN ONE OF THE PRAYERS, I SAID, LORD, IF YOU
HEAL ME OF MY HEADACHES AND TAKE AWAY THE INSECURITY,
I GIVE YOU A PROMISE. SINCE MY LIFE HAS NO PURPOSE,
DREAMS, AND VISIONS, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER
YOU WANT WITH THAT LIFE. AND TWO YEARS
PASSED AND I REALIZED I DIDN'T HAVE HEADACHES,
AND GOD JUST SLOWLY, LIKE A LAYER, WOULD
PEEL THOSE THINGS OUT. I STILL HAVE THE SAME BODY, BUT ON THE INSIDE, I'M A
TOTAL DIFFERENT PERSON. JONI: WOW. AND THE PRESENCE OF GOD
REALLY DID THAT FOR YOU. VLADIMIR: AND I BECAME
ADDICTED TO THE PRESENCE OF GOD
AFTER THAT. AND THAT'S HOW I STARTED
TO CONTINUE TO PRAY AND FAST EVERY SINGLE WEEK FROM 13. AT FIRST, I STARTED OUT
OF NECESSITY TO SURVIVE. AND THEN IT BECAME
OUT OF A PURPOSE AND OUT OF A DECISION THAT I WANT TO
CONTINUE TO KNOW THE LORD. AND THAT IS REALLY HOW THE
MINISTRY WAS BIRTHED AT 16. I BECAME A YOUTH
PASTOR AT 16. CINDY JOHNSTON: WOW, 16. JONI: YEAH,
TELL US ABOUT THAT. VLADIMIR: TWO OTHER
YOUTH PASTORS QUIT, SO, AND I WAS PUT AS A THIRD ONE. JONI: SO YOU WERE
PUT AS A YOUTH PASTOR, BUT I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AS HE TELLS THE STORY,
THAT IT WASN'T LIKE HE WAS YOUTH PASTOR
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, SIGNS AND WONDERS AND
MIRACLES BROKE FORTH AFTER THE FIRST YEAR. IN FACT, IT WOULD
BE A JOURNEY - VLADIMIR: OF A DECADE.
JONI: OF A DECADE OF WHAT
GOD WAS GOING TO DO. SO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE THERE
ARE SOME PASTORS, EVEN YOUTH PASTORS AND
YOU'RE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE
NOTHING'S HAPPENING. AND YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT
ON THE PRECIPICE OF GOD DOING SOMETHING
REALLY GREAT. SO I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO
WHAT VLADIMIR HAS TO SAY. VLADIMIR: GOD PROMISES A LOT, BUT HE DELIVERS SLOWLY. HE TRUSTS VERY
LITTLE AT FIRST. HE PROMISED DAVID
AT THE AGE OF 15 HE WILL BE THE KING. HE DIDN'T BECOME A KING
UNTIL 37 AND A HALF. AND SO, AND I BELIEVE
THAT FAST SUCCESS GROWS YOUR EGO. SLOW SUCCESS GROWS
YOUR CHARACTER. ANNA: THAT IS SO GOOD.
SAY THAT AGAIN. FAST SUCCESS... VLADIMIR: SLOW SUCCESS
GROWS YOUR CHARACTER, AND QUICK SUCCESS
GROWS YOUR EGO. ANNA: THAT IS SO GOOD. VLADIMIR: SO GOD TOOK - SAUL RECEIVED HIS KINGDOM
RIGHT AWAY, HE WASN'T GOOD. DAVID WENT THROUGH VERY,
VERY LONG PROCESS, AND DAVID WAS SOLID. HE WAS STABLE. AND SO GOD, I BELIEVE HE
ALLOWED THAT FOR A FEW REASONS, ONE OF THEM IS
TO BUILD MY CHARACTER. THE OTHER ONE IS TO NO
LONGER BE A MEANS TO AN END. BECAUSE IN THE
BEGINNING, I WANTED - I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU,
I WANTED GOD TO USE ME SO THAT I CAN BE SIGNIFICANT. AND AFTER A
WHILE, THAT DIES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T
SEE THAT ANYMORE. AND SO I QUIT ON THAT AND
PRETTY MUCH SAID, LORD, YOU'RE GOING
TO BE MY GOAL, NOT A MEANS TO A GOAL. AND I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE
MY LIFE TRYING TO USE YOU, YOU CAN USE ME, AND
YOU CAN DISCARD ME, DO WHATEVER YOU
WANT WITH ME, I'M PRETTY MUCH
YOUR SERVANT. AND TO THAT STATE, I DIDN'T
GET BECAUSE I READ A BOOK. I GOT BECAUSE I WENT
THROUGH A WILDERNESS WHERE EVERY SINGLE THING
I RELIED ON FAILED. JONI: AND IT WAS A HEART, A POSTURING OF YOUR HEART. VLADIMIR: YEAH. AND
A LOT OF HUMILITY THAT HAD TO HAPPEN
WITH MY UNCLE, MY UNCLE IS MY PASTOR,
AND YOU ATTACH FAMILY, YOU KNOW. THERE ARE FRICTIONS. AND SO THE LORD HAD
TO TEACH ME TO BUILD MY UNCLE'S VISION,
TO WALK UNDER AUTHORITY BEFORE I CAN WALK
IN AUTHORITY. ANNA: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
JONI: YEAH, YOU SAID THAT
IN THE BOOK HERE, WHICH I UNDERLINED,
I LOVED IT. YOU TALKED ABOUT
ANOINTING AND AUTHORITY AND YOU SAID, "WE CAN'T WALK IN
THE ANOINTING AND OPPOSE AUTHORITY
AT THE SAME TIME." VLADIMIR: LIKE DAVID,
BEFORE HE KILLED GOLIATH, HE ASKED FOR PERMISSION
FROM A KING THAT GOD DETHRONED. DAVID DIDN'T GO
KILLING GOLIATH, HE ACTUALLY WENT AND
ASKED FOR PERMISSION OF SOMEONE THAT GOD SAID,
HE'S NO LONGER A KING, DAVID COULD HAVE
EASILY SAID, I DON'T NEED TO OBEY HIM. HE'S NO LONGER ANOINTED. AND THEN DAVID SPENT
THE REST OF HIS LIFE PROTECTING A GUY WHO
OCCUPIED HIS CHAIR. SAUL. JONI: RIGHT. AND EVEN
HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO KILL HIM, BUT HE WOULDN'T TOUCH. VLADIMIR: AND AT HIS FUNERAL
HE WEPT WHEN SAUL DIED. HE DIDN'T GLEE, HE DIDN'T
REJOICE, LIKE, FINALLY, THE GUY'S DEAD. HE ACTUALLY WEPT
AT HIS FUNERAL. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT THE
ANOINTING UPON HIS LIFE, TO PROTECT THAT ANOINTING, WE HAVE TO WALK
UNDER AUTHORITY. AND WE LOVE TO WALK
UNDER AUTHORITY AS LONG AS THE AUTHORITY
DOESN'T CHALLENGE OUR PRIDE AND EGO. THE MOMENT OUR PRIDE GETS
INJURED, THEN MOST OF US, WE SWITCH CHURCHES,
WE SWITCH MENTORS, AND WE SWITCH COMPANIES. JONI: AND TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU HAD THIS PERSON THAT
WAS YOUR COVERING AND YOUR AUTHORITY, BUT THEN WHEN YOU
DIDN'T AGREE WITH WHAT HE WAS TELLING YOU TO DO, YOU HAD ALL
KIND OF THOUGHTS. TELL US THAT
THOUGHT PROCESS, BECAUSE I LOVE THIS
BECAUSE WE'VE ALL THOUGHT THIS PROBABLY AT
SOMETIME OR ANOTHER, YEAH. VLADIMIR: YEAH. SO THIS HAPPENED WHEN I
DISCOVERED THE HOLY SPIRIT AS A PERSON. THE YOUTH MINISTRY THAT
I WAS A PART OF FOR TEN YEARS EXPLODED. WE HAD FOUR TIMES MORE
PEOPLE ON THE YOUTH NIGHT THAN WE HAD ON
SUNDAY MORNING. JONI: FOUR TIMES. VLADIMIR: FOUR TIMES MORE. SO USUALLY YOU HAVE ABOUT
10 TO 20% OF YOUTH FROM THE ATTENDANCE ON SUNDAY. FOR US IT WAS
COMPLETELY OPPOSITE. THERE WAS A HUGE
BREAKTHROUGH. SO MY UNCLE WHO
WAS MY PASTOR, HE SAYS, "YOU NEED TO STEP AWAY
FROM THE YOUTH MINISTRY AND STEP
INTO SUNDAY MORNING," WHICH I RELUCTANTLY DID. I WOULD TRAVEL AND SEE
THE LORD HEAL PEOPLE. I REMEMBER THIS
PARTICULAR INCIDENT WHERE I WAS SPEAKING IN THE
YOUTH CAMP AND ANOTHER PLACE. I JUST STEPPED OUT
OF THE STAGE AND CRAZY MIRACLES HAPPENED. AND MY UNCLE CALLS ME, AND MY PASTOR CALLS ME,
AND HE REBUKES ME FOR SOMETHING DUMB. LIKE IT WAS
COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE FOR WHY HE JUST JUMPED
ON ME FOR SOME REASON. AND I REMEMBER
LISTENING TO THIS, AND IN THE BACK
OF MY HEAD, I HEAR THIS OTHER
VOICE, I'M LIKE, DOES HE REALIZE WHO
IS HE TALKING TO? LIKE, THIS IS A
GREAT MAN OF GOD. LIKE, THIS IS BENNY HINN
IN THE MAKING. MIRACLES, SIGNS AND WONDERS, ALL I NEED IS THE
WHITE SUIT RIGHT NOW. [ LAUGHING ] VLADIMIR: I'M LIKE, THIS
IS - I'M THE GUY. I JUST LITERALLY, I LIKE EXPLODED THE MINISTRY. HE DELEGATED THE MINISTRY. HE DOESN'T TRUST
ME ANYMORE, HE CONSTANTLY
KEEPS LIMITING. AND I HAVE THIS VISION TO
EVENTUALLY WRITE A BOOK. MY PASTOR DOESN'T
HAVE A BOOK, HE DOESN'T HAVE A
YOUTUBE CHANNEL. AND I'M THINKING,
I WAS LIKE, I THINK I PROBABLY NEED TO
START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ONE WHO CAN ACTIVATE
GREATER POTENTIAL IN ME. ANNA: THERE YOU GO. VLADIMIR: AS I'M SAYING
THIS TO MYSELF, I ALSO HEAR THE STILL,
SMALL VOICE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HE SAID THIS. HE SAID, "SATAN DIDN'T
SMOKE WEED IN HEAVEN. HE DIDN'T FALL FROM HEAVEN
FOR COMMITTING ADULTERY." HE SAYS, "HE FELL FROM
HEAVEN FOR THE VERY THING THAT'S COOKING INSIDE
OF YOU RIGHT NOW." ANNA: THAT'S RIGHT. VLADIMIR: AND THE
FEAR OF GOD HIT ME. AND I REMEMBER, I'D HANG UP
THE PHONE WITH MY PASTOR, RAN TO THE ROOM,
I GOT ON MY KNEES, AND I SAID, GOD, I
DON'T WANT THIS CANCER, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PRIDE, BEFORE COMES SEXUAL
SCANDALS, COMES PRIDE. BEFORE COMES
ALL OTHER STUFF, FIRST, THE PRIDE IS AN
OPEN DOOR FOR ALL OF THE OTHER MINISTRY PROBLEMS. AND I KNEW THAT ENOUGH
FROM READING JOHN BEVERE AND OTHER BOOKS
THAT, AND I'M LIKE, AND THIS IS HAPPENING
INSIDE OF THIS PERSON ALREADY, AND I ASKED THE LORD,
HOW DO I DEAL WITH THIS? AND I SAID, OF COURSE,
I'LL CALL MY PASTOR, I'LL APOLOGIZE FOR THE
ATTITUDE THAT I HAD. I DIDN'T EVEN EXEMPLIFY
THAT, VERBALIZED IT, BUT I FELT IT. WHAT SCARED ME IS
WHAT I FELT INSIDE. IT'S NOT EVEN WHAT I SAID. I KNEW ENOUGH NOT TO
SAY IT TO MY UNCLE. AND SO BUT I FELT THAT. AND THE LORD PUT ON
MY HEART AND HE SAID, WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS,
THERE IS YOUR HEART. I WANT YOU TO START HONORING
YOUR PASTOR FINANCIALLY. AND THEN
SECONDLY, HE SAYS, YOU ARE NOT LEAVING
HIS COVERING. I PUT HIM AS YOUR PASTOR
FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. HE SAYS, AND HE'S LIKE,
I WILL ACTIVATE YOUR GIFTS. HE SAYS, I WILL USE
YOUR PASTOR TO PROTECT YOUR CHARACTER. HE SAYS, LET ME TAKE
CARE OF YOUR GIFTS, THE BOOKS, AND EVERYTHING. HE'S LIKE, DON'T LOOK
TO YOUR PASTOR TO GIVE YOU THAT. HE SAYS, LOOK TO ME, BUT
I WANT YOU TO HONOR MY ORDER, AND HE'S YOUR PASTOR. CINDY: AND THE WORD
SAYS TO HUMBLE YOURSELF IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD, AND HE WILL LIFT YOU UP. AND THE CHARACTER THAT
THAT SHOWED WHEN YOU HUMBLED YOURSELF - ANNA: ABSOLUTELY. JONI: AND THAT YOU WERE
WILLING TO LISTEN - CINDY: YES. JONI: TO THAT STILL,
SMALL VOICE. VLADIMIR: I BELIEVE THAT
LIVING UNDER AUTHORITY IS LIKE WALKING WITH
AN UMBRELLA IN THE RAIN. YOU WILL STAY DRY
WHEN EVERYONE'S WET. SO THERE IS A SUPERNATURAL
PROTECTION THAT EXISTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE - DECISIONS, I MEAN, IT
CAME TO MARRIAGE. I REMEMBER WHEN
I WAS SINGLE, I WAS LIKE 19 YEARS OF AGE
AND I WAS CONVINCED THAT THIS PERSON
I WANTED TO MARRY, AND MY PASTOR SAID, NO. AND I WAS LIKE, WHY? HE SAID, JUST TRUST ME. AND SO I TRUSTED HIM. AND SO I PUT HER AWAY. THANK GOD THAT
NEVER HAPPENED. I LOOK BACK AND
I WAS LIKE, LORD, YOU PROTECTED
ME AND STUFF, BUT I DIDN'T SEE
THAT AT THE TIME. AND SO LIVING UNDER THAT
REALLY PROVIDED A BLESSING IN MY LIFE. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAME - I GOT BAPTIZED IN
THE HOLY SPIRIT, SPEAKING IN TONGUES,
AT THE AGE OF 14. I GREW UP IN A VERY
FUNDAMENTAL, STRONG, IN UKRAINE,
PENTECOSTAL CHURCH. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HIM. I DIDN'T KNOW HIS VOICE,
I DIDN'T KNOW HIS POWER IN THE MINISTRY. I WOULD SAY, I LIVED MY
LIFE IN THE MINISTRY AS THE LAME MAN IN THE BOOK
OF ACTS CHAPTER 3. I CRAWLED. I DEPENDED ON MY
STRENGTH AND MY ABILITY. AND I DIDN'T GET VERY FAR. AND SO ABOUT A DECADE AGO,
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS FLYING TO SACRAMENTO TO
SPEAK AT THE YOUTH CONFERENCE. AISLE SEAT, ALASKA AIRLINE. I'M LISTENING TO A
TESTIMONY OF A PASTOR WHO DOESN'T HAVE A
BREAKTHROUGH IN HIS MINISTRY, HIS MOM DIES,
GIVES HIM AN INHERITANCE, HE GETS THE INHERITANCE
OF OVER 10,000 U.S. DOLLARS, BUT THIS WAS IN
ANOTHER COUNTRY WHERE TEN THOUSAND U.S.
DOLLARS IS A LOT OF MONEY. AND HE DECIDES TO
SOW INTO A MINISTRY WHERE MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND
WONDERS ARE HAPPENING SO THAT HE CAN GET
TO KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO I'M LISTENING TO THIS
AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S SOME SORCERY. I WAS LIKE, YOU'RE
BUYING BLESSINGS, I DISAGREE WITH THAT,
THAT'S - I'M LIKE, THAT'S WRONG. AS I'M LISTENING TO THAT,
I HEAR THIS STILL, SMALL VOICE SAYS, DO THE SAME. AND I SAID THE DEVIL IS
A LIAR, I'M NOT DOING THAT. I'M NOT BUYING ANOINTING. IT'S FREELY YOU RECEIVE,
FREELY YOU GIVE. NO. SO I GO TO THE YOUTH
CONFERENCE, I PREACH, I GET ON MY
KNEES, AND I HEAR, IT'S LIKE A BROKEN TAPE. YOU NEED TO TAKE -
THE FUNNY PART. I HAD EXACTLY TEN
THOUSAND U.S. DOLLARS IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT. ON A PASTOR'S SALARY,
I WAS SAVING THAT FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS. AND I WAS LIKE, DAVE
RAMSEY PLAN, ENVELOPES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. [ LAUGHING ] VLADIMIR: AND I'M THINKING,
I'M GOING TO TAKE 10,000 U.S. DOLLARS AND GIVE
THAT AWAY FOR ANOINTING? I WAS LIKE, NO. THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY. AND SO I WRESTLED,
I FOUGHT THREE DAYS. MISERABLE. I MADE THIS DEAL WITH GOD. I SAID, IF I PRESENT IT TO
MY WIFE AND SHE AGREES, I KNOW THIS IS FROM YOU. BECAUSE I KNEW MY WIFE
WOULD NEVER AGREE. [ LAUGHING ] VLADIMIR: BECAUSE IT WAS
HER IDEA TO BUILD A CUSTOM-BUILT HOME,
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE DID NOT LIKE
THE PLACE WE LIVED IN. AND SO I COME HOME AND I'M
TRYING TO FIND THE CONVERSATION, I SAID, WHAT IF PERHAPS, MAYBE,
YOU KNOW, WHAT IF ONE DAY WE
JUST GO ALL RADICAL? AND SHE GOES, JUST SAY
WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY. AND I WAS LIKE, IF WE JUST
TAKE ALL OF OUR MONEY AND JUST FLY TO THIS COUNTRY
AND JUST SOW INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S MINISTRY AND
HAVE THEM PRAY FOR US. SHE'S LIKE,
YEAH, LET'S DO IT. I REMEMBER I WAS SO MAD,
I WAS LIKE, GOD... [ LAUGHING ] VLADIMIR: DID YOU GET TO HER? AND SO WE DID THAT. I COME TO THIS PASTOR,
I BRING THE SEED. AND MY SEED IS FOR ONE THING:
I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE SAVED AND I WANT TO SEE
SIGNS AND WONDERS. AND HE SAYS, YOU
DON'T NEED THAT. HE SAYS, YOU NEED TO
KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND I'M OFFENDED. BECAUSE I'M LIKE, I KNOW
ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. I WAS LIKE, GIVE ME
SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE. HE SAYS - JONI: YOU'RE LIKE, I
AM BRINGING AN OFFERING, YOU PRAY THE PRAYER
I WANT TO PRAY. VLADIMIR: I NEED THE POWER. AND HE'S LIKE,
I'M GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU, BUT HE SAYS, WHEN YOU
GO BACK HOME, HE SAYS, I WANT YOU TO ASK JESUS WHO IS THE GREATEST INTRODUCER
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, BECAUSE ONE OF JESUS'
TITLES IS THE BAPTIZER INTO THE HOLY SPIRIT. HE SAYS, ASK JESUS TO
INTRODUCE YOU TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND SO OUT OF SHEER
OBEDIENCE, I CAME HOME, AND FOR THE
NEXT SIX MONTHS, THAT WAS MY PRAYER. I SAID, JESUS, I WANT YOU
TO REVEAL TO ME YOUR HOLY SPIRIT. AND I CAN'T SAY
IT WAS ONE EVENT, BUT IT WAS A PROCESS OF
DEVELOPING THIS FELLOWSHIP AND CLOSENESS WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT. WHEN I FIRST NO LONGER
SAW HIM AS POWER, I SAW HIM AS A PERSON. A PERSON LIKE JESUS
THAT I CAN RELATE. NOW, IN THIS JOURNEY, I
REMEMBER I ASKED THE LORD, I SAID, LORD, IF YOU
WANT ME TO HAVE A COMMUNION WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHY IN THE WORLD DID YOU
MAKE HIM HOLY GHOST? I WAS LIKE, JESUS, I
CAN RELATE TO JEWISH MEN. GOD THE FATHER,
I CAN RELATE TO. I HAVE A FATHER. BUT THE SPIRIT, I'M LIKE,
HOW CAN I FELLOWSHIP? I'M A SIMPLE MAN. I DON'T TALK TO SPIRITS. I DON'T TALK TO WIND. I DON'T, WHY DID YOU
MAKE HIM A SPIRIT? WHY DIDN'T YOU
GIVE HIM A BODY? AND I FELT THE LORD
RESPONDING FROM THE SCRIPTURE. HE SAYS, I GAVE
HIM A BODY. HE CHOSE YOURS. HE SAID, HE LIVES
IN YOUR BODY AND HE'S NO LESS A PERSON BECAUSE YOU DON'T
SEE HIS PHYSICAL BODY, BUT HE CHOSE YOUR BODY. AND SO AS I STARTED TO
FELLOWSHIP WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, I STARTED TO
FEEL THE PROMPTINGS. AND AT FIRST,
THEY WERE CRAZY. BECAUSE IT LED TO, AFTER
THAT, GIVING MY CAR. FIRST CAR, THEN A SECOND CAR. NOW IT'S TEN CARS LATER. THEN IT LED TO THIS
RADICAL FASTINGS AND OTHER THINGS. AND AT FIRST I WAS
LIKE, THIS IS STRANGE. I'M HEARING VOICES. THAT'S NOT WHAT
I SIGNED UP FOR. I NEED MIRACLES,
SIGNS, AND WONDERS, AND PEOPLE'S LAST FOUR
DIGITS OF SOCIAL SECURITY SO I CAN PROPHETICALLY
PROPHESY. I JUST NEED LIKE THE
PROPHETIC WORDS, NOT THESE THINGS THAT
WILL CAUSE ME TO DIE. BUT ONE THING
LED TO ANOTHER. MY FLESH DIED,
DIED A MILLION TIMES, AND IT'S STILL DYING. AND SIX MONTHS INTO IT,
I STARTED TO SEE RADICAL SALVATIONS IN
THIS YOUTH GROUP. AND THEN PEOPLE STARTED
GETTING HEALED. THE WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE
STARTED TO FLOW, PEOPLE STARTED
TO GET DELIVERED. DEMONS STARTED COMING OUT
IN OUR YOUTH GROUP. I'M TALKING ABOUT FULL-BLOWN
DEMONIC MANIFESTATIONS. SOMEBODY WOULD CAPTURE IT, IT GOES VIRAL IN THE SCHOOL,
PARENTS WOULD COME, FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED. THEY'RE AGAINST IT, BUT
THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE KID IS
COMPLETELY CHANGED. AND NOW DELIVERANCE
BECAME PART OF - DELIVERANCE AND HEALING
BECAME PRETTY MUCH PART OF THE CHURCH. JONI: AND WHEN YOU
RELEASED AND TRUSTED HIM WITH EVERY AREA
OF YOUR LIFE, THAT'S WHEN GOD
SUPERNATURALLY BEGAN TO MOVE. AND YOUR BOOK,
HOST THE HOLY GHOST, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT
TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT, I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND
YOU TO GET THIS BOOK. WE ARE OUT OF TIME, AND
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HAVING A RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ABOUT MORE THAN
YOUR PRAYER LANGUAGE OR SEEING MIRACLES. I MEAN, ALL OF THAT'S
PART OF IT. AND THOUGH THAT IS
POSSIBLE IN HIS POWER, WE DO RECEIVE A
PRAYER LANGUAGE. AND WE'RE ABLE TO
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT. AND I ALWAYS SAY, I PRAY IN ENGLISH
AS FAR AS I CAN GO, AND THEN I LET THE
HOLY SPIRIT TAKE OVER, BECAUSE HE PRAYS
ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING
TO HAPPEN TOMORROW, NEXT WEEK,
AND NEXT YEAR. BUT WHAT VLADIMIR IS
TALKING ABOUT IS KNOWING HIM
DEEPLY AS A FRIEND, AS A COUNSELOR, AS A MENTOR, AND THE FULL EXPRESSION
OF GOD IN YOUR LIFE. I CAN'T TELL YOU
HOW MANY TIMES THAT I HAVE LISTENED TO THAT
VOICE IN THE MORNING TO GIVE ME INSTRUCTION THAT
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, THINGS I WAS GOING TO DO,
OR PEOPLE HE WOULD TELL ME TO CALL OR THINGS HE
WOULD TELL ME TO DO. IT WOULD JUST BE AMAZING. AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT KIND
OF INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD THROUGH
THE HOLY SPIRIT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY
HEAR HIS VOICE AND IMPRESSIONS AND BE LED
BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. SOME PEOPLE PULL THE
HOLY SPIRIT ALONG BEHIND THEM, BUT HE WANTS TO WALK IN
FRONT AND LEAD US AND GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH. WELL, IF YOU'RE
WATCHING TODAY AND YOU WANT TO GROW CLOSER
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, THAT'S WHY THAT
NUMBER'S ON THE SCREEN. MAYBE YOU'RE WATCHING AND
YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS, WELL, I'M JUST
TELLING YOU, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
IS CALL OUT ON THE NAME OF THE LORD AND SAY,
JESUS, I NEED YOU. FORGIVE ME. COME INTO MY HEART TODAY
AND BE LORD OF MY LIFE. AND AT THAT MOMENT,
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
PRAYER THAT YOU CAN PRAY, AND THEN SAY,
THANK YOU, FATHER. FILL ME WITH
YOUR HOLY SPIRIT SO THAT I CAN EXPERIENCE
SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT
AT THE TABLE TODAY. WELL, I WANT TO THANK
PASTOR VLADIMIR FOR SHARING HIS INCREDIBLE
STORY WITH US. YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO
GO CHECK OUT HIS BOOK, HOST THE HOLY GHOST. IT'S AVAILABLE NOW. AND FOR MORE, YOU CAN
VISIT HIM ONLINE AT HUNGRYGEN.COM. LET US KNOW HOWTABLE TALK
HAS TOUCHED YOUR LIFE TODAY. LEAVE US A COMMENT ON
FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, OR YOUTUBE. WE ALWAYS LOVE HEARING
WHAT GOD IS DOING IN YOUR LIFE. LADIES, WE DIDN'T
GET TO SAY MUCH. ANNA: NO, BUT
IT WAS WONDERFUL. REBECCA: WE
DIDN'T NEED TO. JONI: BUT WE DIDN'T
NEED TO, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE CAN ALL SAY - REBECCA: WE ALL
NODDED OUR HEADS. JONI: A BIG AMEN. ALL: AMEN. JONI: THIS WAS AMAZING. AND I TELL YOU WHAT,
I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS GOING TO DO IN YOUR LIFE IN
A FEW DAYS, AND AS YOU OPEN UP
YOUR HEART AND SAY, GOD, I WANT EVERYTHING
THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME. AND I WANT TO
TELL YOU, THE PERSON OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT, THIS IS HIS
TIME, HIS PLACE, HIS SEASON
ON THE EARTH. HE'S DRAWING MEN TO GOD
IN A POWERFUL WAY, AND HE WANTS
TO USE YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU
NEXT TIME. BYE-BYE FOR TODAY. ♪♪♪
