JONI: WELL, STEP INTO
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THE ROLE AND PURPOSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND DISCOVER THE
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LIVE AN EMPOWERED LIFE? AND DO YOU
SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING? DO YOU TO WISH YOU WERE
AS SPIRITUALLY MATURE AS PERHAPS YOUR FRIEND OR MAYBE EVEN YOUR
GRANDPARENTS? WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU CAN BE. AND TODAY WITH THE HELP
OF YOUR SPECIAL GUEST YOU'LL FIND OUT HOW. BUT BEFORE WE
GET TO THAT, JOINING ME AT THE TABLE IS KENDRA KELLY DEAN. KENDRA: HEY. JONI: HOW ARE YOU? KENDRA: I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? JONI: I'M DOING. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF, IT'S HARD TO SAY I'M DOING GOOD BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M
WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MY HUSBAND
NOT BEING HERE. KENDRA: YEAH. JONI: SO I FEEL
LIKE I'D BE LYING IF I SAID GOOD. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M
MAKING IT. I'M HAVING GOOD
DAYS AND BAD DAYS. KENDRA: YEAH. JONI: BUT -- KENDRA: I LIKE THIS
PARTICULAR TOPIC THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT TODAY. JONI: YEAH, THANK GOD
FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT. KENDRA: THANK GOD
FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT. KENDRA: HE'S OUR COMFORTER.
JONI: I DON'T KNOW
WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE. JONI: I DON'T KNOW WHAT
I WOULD HAVE DONE. KENDRA: HE'S OUR
JOY, OUR STRENGTH, AND ALL OF THAT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. HE'S OUR BEST FRIEND JONI: HE IS.
THROUGH ALL OF IT. THAT'S RIGHT. DOROTHY NEWTON,
HOW ARE YOU? DOROTHY: I AM DOING GOOD AND YOU LOOK
BEAUTIFUL. PASTOR MARCUS WOULD SAY, DON'T MY JONI LOOK GOOD? [ LAUGHTER ] JONI: HE WOULD SAY THAT. I MISS ALL HIS COMPLIMENTS
HE USED TO GIVE ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS
ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT YOU AND SO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE EITHER GONE
THROUGH A DIVORCE OR LOST A LOVED ONE. YOU REALLY CAN'T
UNDERSTAND UNLESS YOU'VE
GONE THROUGH IT. DOROTHY: TOTALLY. TOTALLY. JONI: IT'S A TOTALLY
DIFFERENT -- DOROTHY: YES, YES. AND, YOU KNOW,
THE ONLY WAY I KNEW TO GO THROUGH IT, STILL GOING THROUGH IT, IS JUST TALK ABOUT
IT WHEN IT'S SAFE AND JUST BE
VULNERABLE ABOUT IT. JONI: THAT'S RIGHT. ANNA: THAT'S GOOD. JONI: ANNA KENDALL,
HOW ARE YOU? ANNA: I'M EXCITED
ABOUT THIS TOPIC. BECAUSE FOR ONE THING, YOU HAVE COME
THROUGH THIS AND ARE COMING
THROUGH THIS BECAUSE OF THE COMFORTER. JONI: TOTALLY, YEAH.
BECAUSE OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT, YES. JONI: AND PRAYERS
OF PEOPLE. ANNA: OH, YES. JONI: SUCH A BLESSING. AND YOUR EYES LOOK SO PRETTY
WITH THAT COLOR. ANNA: OH, THANK YOU. JONI: HOW LONG HAVE
YOU AND FRED BEEN MARRIED NOW? ANNA: OH, 56 YEARS. JONI: 56. I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT. CINDY: WOW. JONI: CINDY MURDOCK,
HOW ARE YOU? CINDY: I'M GOOD. JONI: I CAN JUST WHIRL
AROUND MY CHAIR. [ LAUGHTER ] JONI: IT'S MY NEW
SET, EVERYBODY. I'M SO EXCITED
ABOUT THIS NEW SET. CINDY: AND I GET TO TURN AND ACTUALLY LOOK
YOU IN THE FACE. JONI: THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAN. I TELL YOU WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SO IMPORTANT
TO ALL OF US AT THIS TABLE, TO EVERYONE
THAT'S WATCHING. CINDY: YEAH. JONI: HE'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT
FIGURE IN YOUR LIFE. CINDY: HE TRULY EMPOWERS US. JONI: YEAH. CINDY: AND HELPS US
MAKE IT THROUGH THINGS WE NEVER COULD
DO IT ON OUR OWN. JONI: SO TRUE. CINDY: EXCITED TO
TALK ABOUT IT MORE. JONI: WELL, HE
IS THE FOUNDER AND SENIOR PASTOR
OF RADIANT CHURCH IN THE KALAMAZOO
MICHIGAN AREA. A CHURCH THAT HAS GROWN
TO MULTIPLE CAMPUSES. AND HE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT AND
EMPOWERING THE BODY OF CHRIST TO WALK IN ITS BIBLICAL
AUTHORITY. PLEASE WELCOME OUR
SPECIAL GUEST, PASTOR LEE CUMMINGS. ♪♪ [ APPLAUSE ] JONI: ALL RIGHT. CINDY: HEY, THERE. JONI: HEY, THERE. WELCOME. LEE: IT'S GREAT TO
BE HERE, THANK YOU. CINDY: GOOD TO HAVE YOU. JONI: SO YOU DO
HAVE DAUGHTERS, SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH ALL THESE
LADIES AT THE TABLE. LEE: OH, YEAH. JONI: YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
WIFE AND DAUGHTERS. LEE: WE'RE OUTNUMBERED
IN OUR HOUSE. [ LAUGHTER ] JONI: YOU ARE. WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT
DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT? AND DOES OUR PRESENT
DAY VIEW OF HIM LINE UP WITH SCRIPTURE? TODAY WITH LEE'S HELP, WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THESE TWO VERY
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE VITAL ROLE THE HOLY SPIRIT PLAYS IN YOUR LIFE AS
A BELIEVER. SO YOU WROTE THE BOOK <i>SCHOOL OF THE SPIRIT.</i> LEE: YES. JONI:<i>LIVING THE HOLY
SPIRIT-EMPOWERED LIFE.</i> AND SO WHY DID YOU
WRITE THIS BOOK? LEE: WELL, I WROTE
THE BOOK BECAUSE IN ALL OF THE YEARS
OF PASTORING PEOPLE, THERE ARE SO MANY BOOKS THAT HELP PEOPLE GET THEIR
FOUNDATIONS UNDERNEATH THEM AS A BELIEVER. HOW TO FOLLOW JESUS, WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEPS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. JONI: YEAH. LEE: BUT THERE WERE
NOT A LOT OF BOOKS ON THE HOLY SPIRIT. A LOT OF
THEOLOGICAL BOOKS WHERE YOU GET A LITTLE BIT
FROM HERE AND THERE. BUT THERE WASN'T
LIKE A GO-TO THAT YOU COULD
GIVE TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD JUST UNPACK WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT IS AND WHAT HE WANTED
TO DO IN THEIR LIVES. AND SO I WROTE THE
BOOK ACTUALLY AS A PASTOR
BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A RESOURCE
FOR MY PEOPLE IN MY CHURCH. BUT I ALSO WANTED
TO PUT A TOOL IN EVERY BELIEVER'S HAND THAT INTRODUCES THE
HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM. ANNA: AND THE IMPORTANCE
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. LEE: OH, YEAH. SO IMPORTANT. JONI: SO TAKE US THROUGH, IF YOU WILL, YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE
BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE PERSON OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT. I MEAN, THE THING THAT HE
IS TO ALL PEOPLE. AND BECAUSE I
KNOW EARLY ON, YOU WERE A LITTLE SCARED
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE IT WAS
THE HOLY GHOST. [ LAUGHTER ] LEE: THAT'S RIGHT, JONI. SO I GREW UP GOING TO
MY GRANDPARENTS' CHURCH WHEN I WAS REAL YOUNG. AND IT WAS A HARD CORE
PENTECOSTAL CHURCH. IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
IT WAS NOT ONE OF THESE HOUR-LONG SERVICES. IT WAS THREE-HOUR
LONG SERVICES. AND WE USED
THE KING JAMES. AND SO IN THE KING JAMES, IT'S NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT, IT'S THE HOLY GHOST. CINDY: THOSE SERVICES
MAY LAST FOR HOURS. LEE: OH, YEAH. YOU'D GO FOR A LONG TIME. AND I REMEMBER
BEING A KID AND, YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO
WATCH<i>
SCOOBY-DOO</i> AND SOME OF THOSE SHOWS. SO I WAS FAMILIAR WITH
WHAT GHOSTS WERE. SO WHEN MY GRANDMOTHER
WOULD LEAN OVER AND SAY THE HOLY GHOST IS HERE. JONI: YOU WOULD LOOK AROUND. LEE: I DUCKED UNDER THE PEW. AND I WAS SCARED
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT AS TIME WENT ON, MY GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE
JUST DEAR LOVERS OF JESUS, THEY INTRODUCED ME
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND, IN FACT, I WAS
FILLED WITH HOLY SPIRIT IN MY GRANDPARENTS' CHURCH WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. AND I TALK ABOUT
THIS IN THE BOOK. BUT IT WAS JUST A
SMALL LITTLE CHURCH. AND AT THE END
OF THE SERVICE, THEY CALLED EVERYBODY UP TO RECEIVE PRAYER. THERE WAS 15 PEOPLE ON
A SUNDAY NIGHT SERVICE. AND I WAS BY FOUR DECADES THE YOUNGEST PERSON THERE. AND I WAS BORED. I WANTED TO BE BACK HOME WATCHING BASEBALL
OR SOMETHING. I REMEMBER STARING UP
AT THE CEILING TILES JUST TRYING TO FIND
SOMETHING TO DISTRACT ME. AND AS I SAY, GOD GRACIOUSLY INTERRUPTED MY
REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING. AND HE ENCOUNTERED ME. I HAD A SPIRITUAL BAPTISM
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. I CALL IT A TRANCE BECAUSE I WAS
THERE IN THE ROOM, BUT I WASN'T. AND IN THAT MOMENT, GOD TOOK ALL OF THE
PIECES OF MY LIFE. AND, YOU KNOW,
GROWING UP, MY DAD LEFT WHEN I
WAS NINE MONTHS OLD. I'VE BEEN SEXUALLY
ABUSED BY RELATIVES AND KIDS IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS VERY INSECURE. I WAS A QUIET KID. I WAS AN ONLY CHILD. SO I SPENT A LOT
OF TIME BY MYSELF REALLY WONDERING WHO
I WAS AND AFRAID. AND IN THAT MOMENT, GOD JUST TOOK
ALL THESE PIECES THAT WERE PAIN PIECES, AND HE WOVE THEM TOGETHER. AND THE ONLY WAY
TO DESCRIBE IT IS IT MADE SENSE. AND HE SPOKE TO ME AND HE SAID, LEE,
I'VE CHOSEN YOU TO BE A VOICE TO
YOUR GENERATION. RISE UP FROM THIS PLACE
AND PREPARE TO SERVE ME. AND WHEN I CAME BACK, I WAS IN THE ROOM, BUT I WAS SPEAKING
IN TONGUES. AND I WAS CRYING. MY GRANDPARENTS
WERE LOOKING AT ME. NOBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM HAD HEARD ANYTHING, SEEN ANYTHING. BUT THEY WATCHED ME. AND MY LIFE WAS RADICALLY
CHANGED FROM THAT MOMENT. ANNA: AND YOU
WERE 12 YEARS OLD? LEE: I WAS 12. ANNA: THAT'S WONDERFUL. CINDY: WHAT DID
THAT LOOK LIKE AS A 12-YEAR-OLD HEARING
THE VOICE OF THE LORD LIKE THAT IN YOUR LIFE AND IMPACTING YOU FROM
THE YEARS, DAYS AHEAD? LEE: IT GAVE
ME CONFIDENCE. IT GAVE ME A
SENSE OF IDENTITY. YOU KNOW, WE OFTENTIMES GAIN OUR IDENTITY FROM WHAT
OTHER PEOPLE SAY ABOUT US. BUT WHAT WE
REALLY NEED IS WE NEED WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT US. ANNA: AMEN. LEE: AND WHEN YOU HEAR
THE VOICE OF GOD SAY TO YOU AS EVEN
A 12-YEAR-OLD KID, YOU'RE NOT AN ACCIDENT. YOU'RE NOT A MISTAKE. BUT ACTUALLY YOU
DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT, BUT I SOVEREIGNLY CALLED
YOU AND CHOSE YOU. ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF
IDENTITY AND PURPOSE. AND IT CHANGED THE
TRAJECTORY OF MY LIFE. WHO KNOWS WHERE I
WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT BECAUSE OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE COURSE OF
MY LIFE CHANGED. JONI: YOU KNOW, AND WE TALKED
IN AN EARLIER INTERVIEW THAT THE MOST
IMPORTANT DECISION THAT YOU EVER MAKE IS
WHEN YOU INVITE JESUS INTO YOUR HEART, AND YOU ASK HIM TO FORGIVE
YOU OF YOUR SINS, AND YOU THANK HIM FOR
DYING ON THE CROSS FOR YOU. AND HE WASHES ALL
OUR SIN AWAY, AND THEN WE
HAVE A PROMISE OF ETERNAL LIFE. AND SO SALVATION PREPARES
US FOR ETERNITY. BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT JUST A VAPOR. I MEAN, HE IS A PERSON. AND SO JESUS SAID IT'S EXPEDIENT THAT I GO AWAY THAT THE COMFORTER MAY COME. SO HE EMPOWERS US. AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW,
WHEN YOU GET SAVED, YOU GET THE HOLY
SPIRIT. BUT WHEN YOU
SAY, OKAY, LORD, I WANT EVERYTHING
YOU HAVE FOR ME, FILL ME WITH YOUR SPIRIT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU THEN
ALLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GET YOU. AND YOU'VE GOT HIM, BUT THEN YOUR
LIFE CHANGES. BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU BECOME EMPOWERED WITH
THE SUPERNATURAL POWER TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH
THINGS ON THIS EARTH THAT COULD NEVER BE
DONE WITHOUT HIM. LEE: THAT'S RIGHT. AND I THINK WE
MAKE A MISTAKE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST OF THINKING LIKE THERE'S MULTI-TIERS
TO OUR SALVATION. IT'S LIKE, WELL, I GOT THE, YOU
KNOW, BASE LEVEL SALVATION. IT'S GONNA GET
ME INTO HEAVEN, BUT I'M NOT TOO
SERIOUS ABOUT IT. JONI: AND THERE ARE SOME
THAT ARE LIKE THAT. LEE: YEAH. JONI: A LOT OF PEOPLE. LEE: AND THEY GOT FIRE
INSURANCE, RIGHT? JONI: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. LEE: AND THEN LIKE
THERE'S A GOLD LEVEL. AND THAT'S LIKE, WELL,
YOU GO TO CHURCH AND YOU TITHE AND
YOU READ YOUR BIBLE. THEN THERE'S
LIKE PLATINUM, WHICH IS OH, YOU'RE FILLED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT THE BIBLE SAYS THERE'S ONE
COMMON SALVATION. AND WE ALL NOT ONLY
HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT WE NEED ALL THE DYNAMICS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. HIS POWER, HIS GIFTS, AND
HIS FRUIT IN OUR LIFE. AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. JONI: YEAH. AND IT'S SIMPLE. IT'S JUST AS SIMPLE, KENDRA, AS SAYING RIGHT
THERE WHERE YOU ARE IN THE ROOM SAY, LORD, FILL ME WITH YOUR SPIRIT. I WANT EVERYTHING
YOU HAVE FOR ME. IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. KENDRA: IT'S THAT SIMPLE. AND HE'S TANGIBLE. THAT'S WHAT I
LOVE ABOUT IT. HE'S SO TANGIBLE. I HAD AN EXPERIENCE KIND OF SIMILAR TO YOURS WHEN I WAS ABOUT 14. AND I JUST REMEMBER GROWING UP AS A
PASTOR'S KID AND FEELING ALL
THIS REJECTION AND FEELING SO
MISUNDERSTOOD. PEOPLE THAT WE SERVED
AND TRIED TO LOVE, AND YET THEY WANTED
SOMETHING OUT OF OUR FAMILY THAT WE COULDN'T QUITE
GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE HUMAN. BUT I JUST REMEMBER
WEEPING AT AN ALTAR UPSTAIRS BY MYSELF
IN OUR CHAPEL AND JUST FEELING
THIS HAND ON MY BACK. AND THIS OVERWHELMING, IT WAS LITERALLY
LIKE LIQUID LOVE. I'M WITH YOU. I AM WITH YOU. AND I ACCEPT YOU. AND I EMBRACE YOU AND I
HAVE A PURPOSE FOR YOU. AND EVER SINCE THAT DAY, MY LIFE WAS CHANGED. ANNA: YOU HAVE SERVED HIM. KENDRA: WITH EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S THE POWER
OF HIS PRESENCE AND THAT YOU'RE
NEVER ALONE. YOU TELL THIS
REALLY CUTE STORY IN YOUR BOOK ABOUT
YOUR GRANDFATHER. AND HOW HE WOULD TAKE
YOU THE CANDY STORE, AND WHAT HE WOULD KIND OF
TEACH YOU ABOUT THAT, AND HOW YOU USE AS ANALOGY
TO CHRISTIANS AND THEIR WALK WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? LEE: WELL, MY
GRANDPA IS MY HERO. AND HE WENT HOME TO BE WITH
THE LORD AT 90 YEARS OLD THIS LAST YEAR. AND HE WAS NOT IN
GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE, BUT HE WAS STILL FULL
OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD. JONI: AND HE GOT TO SEE
EVERYTHING GOD DID WITH YOUR LIFE. LEE: HE GOT TO SEE, HE GOT TO READ -- JONI: THE BOOK. LEE: THE BOOK. AND HE LOVED IT. BUT WHEN I WAS LITTLE, HE WOULD TAKE
ME TO THE STORE THAT HAD A HUGE
CANDY SECTION. AND MY MOM WOULD
ALSO TAKE ME THERE. AND SO THIS TIME, MY GRANDPA TOOK ME, AND HE SAID PICK OUT
ANYTHING YOU WANT. SO I WENT OVER TO
THE PENNY SECTION. HE'S LIKE, NO, NO,
YOU DON'T WANT THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] LEE: THIS IS HIS
FAVORITE STORY. HE TOLD IT ALL THE TIME. I DON'T REMEMBER IT. BUT HE TOLD IT AND HE SAID THEN I WENT OVER TO
THE NICKEL CANDY, AND HE SAID, PICK
OUT SOMETHING ELSE. AND I WAS LIKE
NICKEL CANDY? AND HE SAYS, NO. COME ON DOWN THE AISLE
A LITTLE BIT. AND SO I WORKED
MY WAY DOWN, AND I PICKED UP
LIKE A SLO-POKE, REMEMBER THOSE BIG LONG -- MY MOM WOULD NEVER LET
ME GET THOSE. BUT I PICKED IT
OUT AND HE GOES, NO, NO, YOU
DON'T WANT THAT. HE REALLY WANTED ME TO GET
SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. BUT AFTER LIKE THE
THIRD OR FOURTH TIME, I JUST LOOKED UP AT HIM AND I
SAID, GRANDPA, WHAT DO I WANT? AND HE JUST GOT THE
BIGGEST BANG OUT OF THAT BECAUSE I WAS SO
ACCUSTOMED TO JUST GOING FOR THE LOW END. HIS HEART WAS HE WANTED TO REALLY
TO BLESS ME. CINDY: WITH ABUNDACE. LEE: YEAH, AND I THINK
THAT'S HOW GOD IS WITH US. JONI: THAT IS HOW GOD IS. NOW YOU DIDN'T COME
FROM LIKE THAT KIND OF BACKGROUND. DOROTHY: EXACTLY. JONI: THOSE HOLY GHOST ROLLERS. DOROTHY: SIMILAR, YOU
KNOW, I GREW UP IN A BAPTIST CHURCH JUST A SHORT TIME. BUT THIS MENTOR, THE MOTHER OF THE
HOUSE, WE CALLED HER. SHE -- ONE DAY I TOLD HER, I SAID, SOMETHING IS
HAPPENING TO ME. I CANNOT EXPLAIN, EIGHT YEARS OLD. I JUST CAN'T EXPLAIN IT. I SAID IT'S SOMETHING
INSIDE THAT'S STRONG. AND SHE SAID, OH, CHILD,
THAT'S THE HOLY GHOST. AND FROM THAT TIME ON, I MEAN, I REALLY BELIEVED
SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME WAS SO BAD. BECAUSE I LOVED -- I WANTED TO BE A NUN
AT EIGHT YEARS OLD. I LOVED THE LORD SO MUCH. AND TO ME, NUNS WERE THE
ONES WHO LOVED HIM SO MUCH. ANYWAY, LONG STORY SHORT, WE TRANSITIONED TO
CHURCH OF CHRIST. THE HOLY SPIRIT
NEVER MENTIONED. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL 2008 THAT I RECEIVED THE GIFT
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. LEE: WOW. DOROTHY: I MEAN, 2008, WHICH MEANS THAT MY KIDS WHO GREW UP
KNOWING THE LORD, HAVING A RELATIONSHIP, DIDN'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO GOD, YOU KNOW,
HE FILLS IN THE GAP WHEN WE THINK
IT'S MISSING. I MEAN, HE JUST FILLS IT ALL IN. BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE
LIVING HERE ON EARTH WITHOUT THAT POWER, THAT CONFIDENCE, THAT -- JUST THE LIVING
EMBODIMENT OF POWER THAT THE HOLY
SPIRIT PROVIDES. LEE: I DON'T
KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN GO THROUGH -- JONI: ANYTHING. LEE: ANYTHING IN
THIS PRESENT AGE IN WHICH WE'RE LIVING IN AND ALL THE CHALLENGES IN THEIR OWN STRENGTH. I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I HAVE LEARNED HOW MUCH
WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE HOLY SPIRIT. JONI: YOUR STORY. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT -- ANNA: NO, I DIDN'T. JONI: THE HOLY SPIRIT. ANNA: I WAS RAISED IN
DIFFERENT BAPTIST CHURCHES, BUT I WENT TO A
ELEVEN SCHOOLS. SO I NEVER WAS IN
ONE PLACE VERY LONG. AND I WENT DOWN
TO BE SAVED TWO OR THREE TIMES, BUT DECIDED IT DIDN'T
TAKE, YOU KNOW. I EVEN GOT BAPTIZED. I DON'T THINK
IT TOOK. SO THEN I BECAME A
LIBERAL PRESBYTERIAN. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR
PASTOR WOULD TALK ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T SAY
HOLY GHOST, SAID, HOLY SPIRIT. SO IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS
A LIBERAL PSYCHOLOGICALLY ORIENTED MATERIALISTIC
PRESBYTERIAN -- JONI: SINNER. ANNA: SINNER, YES. JONI: YOU WEREN'T
LIVING RIGHT. ANNA: I WASN'T LIVING RIGHT
AND MY HUSBAND -- CINDY: IT DIDN'T TAKE. ANNA: IN DESPERATION, CRIED OUT AND GOT
THE HOLY SPIRIT. THEN MY SON DID AND I WAS THE
LAST TO COME IN. BUT WHEN I DID, IT WAS LIKE, HERE'S
WHAT IT WAS LIKE. I HAD THIS BIG BOX
OF PUZZLE PIECES. AND IT WAS A JUMBLED UP
BOX OF PUZZLE PIECES. THE HOLY SPIRIT PUT
IT ALL TOGETHER AND MADE A
PICTURE OUT OF IT. I NO LONGER HAD ALL
THOSE LOOSE PIECES. IT JUST CHANGED
EVERYTHING. JONI: THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN I KNOW AS
A YOUNG GIRL GROWING UP, WE WOULD GO DOWN TO THE ALTAR AND PRAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE
PASTOR WOULD LAY HANDS AND ANOINT PEOPLE, PRAY WITH THEM. AND SO MANY TIMES, THE HOLY SPIRIT
WOULD TOUCH PEOPLE AND HEAL IN THOSE
DEEPER PARTS THAT HE KNOWS
ABOUT AND CAN HEAL. I MEAN, THERE'S SO
MUCH THAT HE DOES. LEE: THERE ARE
SOME THINGS THAT CAN ONLY BE HEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. ANNA: THAT IS RIGHT. LEE: ONE MOMENT,
ONE TOUCH OF GOD CAN DO WHAT A THOUSAND HOURS
IN COUNSELING CANNOT DO. I BELIEVE IN COUNSELING. I'M GRATEFUL FOR
GREAT THERAPISTS. BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
THE GREAT COUNSELOR. ANNA: YOU KNOW, I THINK
ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THINK IS SHAME. SHAME IS NOT SOMETHING
YOU CAN REPENT OF BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING
THAT'S BEEN DONE TO YOU, BUT THE HOLY
SPIRIT HEALS IT. LEE: YES, HE DOES. ANNA: AND SETS YOU FREE. AND IT'S JUST AMAZING. JONI: YOU SAID THERE'S
A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M GONNA GO
THROUGH THESE. THE HOLY SPIRIT
REGENERATES US. HOW? LEE: HE SAVES US. SO WHEN WE
BELIEVE IN JESUS, AND WE, YOU KNOW, THE
CROSS, WE SEE THE CROSS. AND WE BELIEVE IN JESUS THAT HE DIED IN OUR PLACE, AND WE INVITE HIM
INTO OUR HEART TO SAVE US. THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES AND THE WORD REGENERATE
MEANS TO GIVE LIFE. AND SO HE COMES AND HE
ACTUALLY CAUSES OUR DEAD SPIRIT TO COME TO LIFE. ANNA: HALLELUJAH. CINDY: SO WHAT ABOUT WHERE THE HOLY
SPIRIT FREES US LIKE HE'S THE
TRUTH TELLER. LEE: ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, JESUS SAID YOU
SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH
WILL SET YOU FREE. WELL, JESUS CALLED
THE HOLY SPIRIT THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES THAT JESUS SAID WOULD
BE HIS OFFICE WORK, IS IT SAYS HE LEADS
AND HE GUIDES US INTO ALL TRUTH. SO THE AREAS OF DARKNESS IN OUR LIFE THAT HAVE, THE ENEMY HAS HAD CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S CONTROLLED BY A LIE. THE HOLY SPIRIT HE COMES IN AND HE
DISMANTLES THOSE LIES AND REPLACES THEM WITH TRUTH. AND WHEN HE DOES THAT, IT BEGINS TO SET US FREE. CINDY: OUT OF BONDAGES. LEE: YEAH,
BONDAGES BROKEN. JONI: ADDICTIONS.
ADDICTIONS CAN BE BROKEN. AND, OF COURSE, YOU SAID THE
HOLY SPIRIT SANCTIFIES US. THAT'S ALMOST A
WORD YOU DON'T HEAR. I USED TO HEAR
IT ALL THE TIME. SAVED, SANCTIFIED, AND FILLED WITH
HOLY GHOST. BUT, I MEAN, SANCTIFICATION IS A PROCESS THAT HE DOES. I THINK THE CHURCH
IS BETTER TODAY THAN MAYBE IT USED TO BE BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE SO
MANY LEGALISTIC RULES THAT WE THOUGHT WERE
SANCTIFYING PEOPLE. KENDRA: WE THOUGHT. JONI: BUT WERE KEEPING
PEOPLE IN BONDAGE. BUT THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS ABLE TO SPEAK TO US AND SHOW US,
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG
IN OUR LIFE, RIGHT? LEE: HE CONVICTS US. JONI: YEAH. LEE: HE CONVICTS US. AND THE WORD SANCTIFY
MEANS TO MAKE HOLY AND THAT'S A
LIFELONG PROCESS. YOU KNOW, WHERE THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS CONSTANTLY, AS WE GROW
IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE'S HIGHLIGHTING THINGS IN OUR LIFE THAT
ARE DARKNESS, AND HE'S CALLING US TO YIELD IN. AND HE'S CONVICTING
US OF SIN IN OUR LIFE. WHEN WE YIELD TO THAT AND NOT HARDEN OUR HEART, BUT WHEN WE
YIELD TO THAT, WE BECOME CONFORMED MORE
INTO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON. JONI: WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT, LET'S SAY IN YOUR OWN
LIFE PERSONALLY, THAT WAS A SANCTIFICATION
THAT TOOK PLACE WHERE OVER TIME THE
HOLY SPIRIT SAID NOW I WANT YOU TO SET
YOURSELF APART HERE OR THERE OR WHATEVER. LEE: PROBABLY MY DRIVING. HOW'S THAT? JONI: WOW. LEE: THAT'S ONE AREA. JONI: OH, LORD, I DON'T KNOW
IF I SHOULD LISTEN TO THIS. [ LAUGHTER ] LEE: I USED TO JUST
GET SO ANGRY DRIVING. I MEAN, JUST ANGRY, JUST MAD AT PEOPLE. CINDY: YOU WERE LIKE
ROAD RAGE PERSON. LEE: YEAH, MAYBE. YOU KNOW, I WAS CLOSE TO IT. JANE, MY WIFE, SHE'D
DRIVE WITH ME AND JUST SAY, MAN, IT'S LIKE YOU
JUST GET SO ANGRY. WHAT ARE YOU SO MAD ABOUT? I WAS LIKE BECAUSE
THERE'S TERRIBLE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. THEY'RE DRIVING
AND HOLDING ME UP. JONI: BECAUSE THEY WON'T
GET OUT OF THE LEFT LANE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LEE: THEY THINK THEY ARE
THE HONORARY PACE CAR. AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ONE
DAY CONVICTED ME OF THAT. JUST REAL GENTLY. BUT HE JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN BE UPSET AND SOMETHING
CAN BOTHER YOU WITHOUT YOU
LOSING YOUR COOL. ANNA: AMEN. LEE: BECAUSE YOU'RE
MAKING EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CAR UNCOMFORTABLE. JONI: THAT'S SO GOOD. LEE: AND IT WAS JUST
A PRACTICAL THING. JONI: AND THAT'S KIND OF
A SANCTIFICATION PROCESS. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE
Y'ALL SEEN THIS IF THERE'S A LONG
LINE SOMEWHERE. ANNA: OH, YES. JONI: AND SOMEBODY
BREAKS IN. I MEAN, PEOPLE GET SO -- AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME I WAS IN A SITUATION WHERE I WAS REALLY
THERE FIRST. BUT ANOTHER LADY WAS KIND
OF GOING IN FRONT OF ME. AND INSTEAD, AND IT
WAS JUST LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT SAID JUST LET HER GO. LEE: OH, YEAH. JONI: AND I WAS JUST LIKE,
OKAY, YEAH, GO AHEAD. ANNA: IF WE JUST LISTEN. JONI: YEAH. IT'S NOT EASY THE
SANCTIFICATION PROCESS. LEE: TO BE SELFLESS
IS SUPERNATURAL. IT'S NOT NATURAL. IT'S SUPERNATURAL. JONI: IT REALLY IS. ANNA: AND THEN WHAT
ABOUT BEING SEALED, THE HOLY SPIRIT
SEALS US. I LOVE THIS. JONI: WE NEED TO BE SEALED
BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. ANNA: WE NEED
TO BE SEALED. LEE: THE BIBLE SAYS
HE'S OUR GUARANTEE. HE SEALS US. WHICH MEANS -- MY
GRANDMOTHER USED TO JAR, SHE USED TO DO, YOU
KNOW, CANNING. SHE WOULD DO
THE MASON JARS, AND SHE'D PUT ALL
THIS STUFF IN THERE. AND THEN SHE WOULD BOIL IT, AND PUT IT DOWN
IN THE WATER, AND IT WOULD
SEAL THAT CLOSED. AND THAT WORD SEAL MEANS IT'S OUR GUARANTEE THAT WE BELONG TO HIM. THAT WE BELONG TO HIM. AND I BELIEVE
THAT WITH SEALING COMES THAT CONFIDENCE. THE HOLY SPIRIT,
ROMANS CHAPTER 8, PAUL SAYS THE HOLY
SPIRIT TEACHES US TO CRY OUT ABBA FATHER. HE INTIMATELY CONNECTS US TO THE HEART
OF THE FATHER SO THAT WE KNOW
WE ARE HIS. SO IMPORTANT. DOROTHY: WHAT ABOUT
THE DIFFERENT TYPES, THE DIFFERENT GIFTS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? JONI: BECAUSE THERE'S
NINE OF THEM, RIGHT? DOROTHY: YEAH, SPECIFICALLY,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER TONGUES. BECAUSE I HEAR A
LOT FROM MY FRIENDS THAT, YOU KNOW,
I'VE BEEN BAPTIZED. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE. I'M A CHRISTIAN. YOU KNOW, AND
THEY KEEP SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE
TO HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND I KEEP TRYING TO EMPHASIZE THE POWER IN HOW IT MAKES
EVERYTHING SO MUCH EASIER. JONI: THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TONGUES AND
YOUR PRAYER LANGUAGE. LEE: THAT'S RIGHT. JONI: THEY'RE
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. LEE: THERE'S THE CORPORATE
GIFT OF TONGUES THAT TAKES PLACE IN A
CORPORATE WORSHIP SETTING. JONI: AND I SAW THAT
GROWING UP, BY THE WAY. LEE: WELL, I DID, TOO. JONI: WHERE THERE WOULD
BE A MESSAGE GIVEN OUT AND THEN INTERPRETED AND IT WOULD BE GOD SPEAKING
THROUGH AN INDIVIDUAL TO THE BODY, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE
AN INTERPRETATION. LEE: THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF
THE NINE GIFTS LISTED IN 1 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 12 THAT ARE A GIFT OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS NUMBER ONE, EVERY WRITER
OF THE NEW TESTAMENT SPOKE IN TONGUES. SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
THAT IT'S FOR TODAY, UNDERSTAND IT'S
NOT A WEIRD GIFT. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE
OFFENDED AT THAT, YOU'RE OFFENDED AT
THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND YOU'RE OFFENDED AT
THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE REST OF THE BIBLE. JONI: SO EVERYONE HAS
A PRAYER LANGUAGE. LEE: EVERYONE
CAN HAVE THAT. JONI: IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE GONNA NECESSARILY GIVE A MESSAGE OUT IN
TONGUES AT CHURCH. YOU MAY NOT BE
USED IN THAT GIFT. BUT IN YOUR PRIVACY OF
YOUR PRAYER CLOSET, I HEARD SOMEONE
SAY ONE TIME, YOU PRAY IN ENGLISH, THAT'S MY NUMBER
ONE LANGUAGE. SO I PRAY IN ENGLISH
UNTIL I GET TO THE END, AND THEN I PRAY IN
THE HOLY SPIRIT. I ALLOW HIM TO
PRAY THROUGH ME. BECAUSE THERE'S
THINGS HE KNOWS THAT I DON'T KNOW
TO PRAY IN ENGLISH. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
POWERFUL THINGS ABOUT HOLY SPIRIT.
LEE: WELL, PRAYING
IN THE SPIRIT -- EXACTLY. PAUL SAID I'LL
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT, I'LL PRAY WITH
UNDERSTANDING. SO AND HE ALSO SAYS I WISH THAT YOU ALL
SPOKE IN TONGUES. SO PAUL, PAUL UNDER
THE INSPIRATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, ENCOURAGED EVERYBODY TO
HAVE A PRAYER LANGUAGE. HE SAID WHEN YOU DO IT, YOU BUILD YOURSELF UP. AND HERE'S THE
BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT WHEN YOU
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT. IT SAYS THAT WE SPEAK
MYSTERIES UNTO GOD. SO IT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT
SPEAKING THROUGH US TO THE HEART
OF THE FATHER BYPASSING OUR MIND. HERE'S THE OTHER
THING PEOPLE MISS IS THAT THE DEVIL CAN'T
READ YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT HE CAN HEAR
YOUR WORDS. WHEN YOU PRAY IN
THE HOLY SPIRIT -- JONI: THIS IS GOOD. LEE: GOD THE FATHER KNOWS WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
PRAYING THROUGH YOU. BUT THE DEVIL AND
DEMONS HAVE NO IDEA. SO IT BYPASSES MY MIND,
BYPASSES HELL. IT'S LIKE A DIRECT
HOTLINE TO HEAVEN. CINDY: AND DON'T YOU
THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT TO PRAY, OR WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO
PRAY ABOUT SOMETHING. WHEN WE ALLOW
THE HOLY SPIRIT TO PRAY THROUGH US, WE HAVE THAT
SUPERNATURAL CONNECTION OF ACTUALLY PRAYING THE
WILL OF THE FATHER. LEE: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE
YOU JUST SENSED SOMETHING AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO PUT WORDS TO IT? YOU JUST FELT LIKE
SOMETHING WAS GOING ON MAYBE IN ONE OF
YOUR KIDS' LIVES. OR IN YOUR, YOU
KNOW, YOUR FAMILY, OR JUST, YOU DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT IT WAS. THAT'S THE TIME TO
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT. BECAUSE YOU DON'T
HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING. THE HOLY SPIRIT,
ACCORDING TO ROMANS 8, WILL PRAY AND INTERCEDE ON
YOUR BEHALF WITH GROANINGS AND UTTERANCES THAT
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND ACCORDING TO
THE WILL OF GOD. SO WHEN YOU COME TO
THE END OF YOURSELF, THAT'S WHEN YOU LET
THE HOLY SPIRIT -- ANNA: THERE SHOULD BE NO
FEAR OF THAT. IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING
WE ALL EMBRACE. JONI: AND, YOU KNOW,
THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT PAUL WROTE. AND HE SAID I THANK GOD THAT I SPEAK TONGUES
MORE THAN Y'ALL. I MEAN, SO, OKAY, SO LET'S
TALK ABOUT THE NINE GIFTS. THE REVELATORY GIFTS ARE? LEE: REVELATORY
GIFTS ARE PROPHECY, WORD OF KNOWLEDGE, AND WORD OF WISDOM. AND, YOU KNOW, PROPHECY, I
THINK WE ALL KIND OF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. IT'S GOD SPEAKING
A NOW WORD IN A NOW MOMENT TO A NOW PEOPLE. IT'S THE HEART OF GOD. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOT
TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE WRITTEN
WORD OF GOD. BUT IT'S A NOW WORD THAT SPEAKS EDIFICATION
AND COMFORT AND EXHORTATION TO PEOPLE. SO IT CAN BE TO A CORPORATE, OR IT CAN BE TO
AN INDIVIDUAL. WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE
AND WORDS OF WISDOM, WORK TOGETHER IN TANDEM. A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE IS I HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT
A PERSON OR A SITUATION THAT I SHOULD HAVE NO
NATURAL WAY OF KNOWING. AND A WORD OF WISDOM IS A DIVINE DOWNLOAD OF
GOD'S HEART AND MIND ABOUT A CIRCUMSTANCE. JONI: OR A SITUATION. LEE: YEAH. JONI; THAT YOU JUST ALL
OF A SUDDEN LEE: YOU JUST KNOW.
YOU JUST KNOW. LEE: YOU JUST KNOW. ANNA: YOU DON'T
KNOW HOW YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW. JONI: THE GIFT OF FAITH, GIFT OF HEALINGS, WORKING OF MIRACLES. THOSE ARE THREE THAT -- LEE: THEY'RE POWER GIFTS. JONI: ARE VERY IMPORTANT, YEAH. LEE: A LOT OF TIMES
THEY WORK TOGETHER. THOSE GIFTS WILL
WORK TOGETHER. BECAUSE WHEN YOU WILL PRAY
FOR SOMEBODY FOR HEALING, A LOT OF TIMES GOD WILL FIRST GIVE
YOU THE GIFT OF FAITH. IT'S THIS EXPLOSION
ON THE INSIDE THAT YOU BELIEVE
BEYOND YOUR MIND, GOD WANTS TO
DO SOMETHING, AND YOU STEP OUT
INTO EITHER HEALING OR INTO A MIRACLE. WE SEE THAT LIKE IN MEN
LIKE REINHARD BONNKE AND ORAL ROBERTS AND THINGS
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE
A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE, FAITH ROSE IN
THEIR HEART, AND THEN A MIRACLE
WOULD BE PERFORMED. AND THEY WORK IN
TANDEM TOGETHER. JONI: AND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THE GIFTS BELONG
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I HAVE THE
GIFT OF MIRACLES. OR, YOU KNOW, I
HAVE THE GIFT OF, I HAVE THE GIFT
OF A FAITH. BUT ALL OF THE GIFTS
BELONG TO HOLY SPIRIT. AND ANY MOMENT HE CAN USE THAT GIFT. AND SO THE VOCAL GIFTS. THE GIFT OF TONGUES, THE INTERPRETATION
OF TONGUES, THE GIFT OF PROPHECY. THOSE ARE VOCAL GIFTS. YOU DON'T SEE
QUITE AS MUCH I THINK SOMETIMES AS THE OTHERS. LEE: NO, AND, WELL, I
THINK PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE EVEN IN A LOT
OF OUR CHURCHES, WHERE WE BELIEVE IN THE
GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY EXERCISED
IN THE CHURCH MUCH ANYMORE. AND I THINK
WE'RE IN DANGER TO BE VERY HONEST OF US BEING
DOCTRINALLY RIGHT, BUT BEING
PRACTICALLY WEAK. AND SO LIKE THE GIFT
OF INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES, YOU HAVE TO
HAVE TONGUES FIRST. WELL, WHEN'S
THE LAST TIME, WE'VE ALLOWED THAT TO
TAKE PLACE IN OUR CHURCH OR ALLOWED
SOMEBODY TO GIVE A PROPHETIC UTTERANCE
IN OUR CHURCH SERVICE? JONI: AND THERE CAN BE
ORDER IN A CHURCH AND STILL SEE
THESE GIFTS USED. LEE: THERE MUST BE ORDER. JONI: AND GOD WANTED,
THEM TO BE USED. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU FEEL LIKE IN THIS SEASON THAT WE'RE
GONNA HAVE TO STEP INTO THIS, IF WE'RE GONNA SURVIVE. LEE: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WHEN WE COME TOGETHER
IN A CHURCH SERVICE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN
OUR CHURCH ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE MULTIPLE
LOCATIONS IS HOW CAN WE STRUCTURE TO BE UNSTRUCTURED. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE MULTIPLE SERVICES. BUT HOW CAN WE GIVE SPACE IN OUR SERVICES FOR, WHETHER IT'S IN THE
MIDDLE OF WORSHIP, OR AT THE END
OF THE MESSAGE, WHERE WE LEAVE A
WINDOW OF TIME FOR THE HOLY
SPIRIT TO SPEAK. WHETHER IT'S
PROPHETIC WORDS THAT ARE EXHORTATION AND
COMFORT AND STRENGTHENING TO THE BODY OF CHRIST. IN THESE DAYS, WE NEED TO BE STRENGTHENED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO
HEAR A NOW WORD FROM HIM. JONI: I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT. AND YOU DO WANT
TO GET LEE'S BOOK. HE GOES INTO A
LOT MORE DETAIL, <i>SCHOOL OF THE SPIRIT:</i> <i>LIVING THE HOLY
SPIRIT-EMPOWERED LIFE.</i> WE'RE OUT OF TIME. IT WENT BY SO FAST. BUT I WANT YOU
TO REMEMBER THAT THE BIBLE SPEAKS
VERY CLEARLY ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT AND
HIS ROLE ON EARTH AND IN THE CHURCH. HE WAS GIVEN TO US TO
GUIDE, EMPOWER US AND LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO
RECEIVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, I MEAN, REALLY ALL YOU
HAVE TO DO IS SAY, LORD, I WANT EVERYTHING
YOU HAVE FOR ME, FILL ME WITH YOUR SPIRIT. IF YOU'D LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO AGREE IN PRAYER WITH YOU, THAT'S WHY THAT TOLL-FREE NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN. YOU CAN GO AND
CALL THAT NUMBER. WE HAVE PRAYER PARTNERS
THAT ARE STANDING BY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. YOU CAN ALSO GO TO DAYSTAR.COM, CLICK ON PRAYER, SEND YOUR PRAYER REQUEST
IN THAT WAY AS WELL. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK LEE FOR JOINING US AT
THE TABLE. AGAIN, BE SURE TO PICK UP A COPY OF HIS BOOK, <i>SCHOOL OF THE SPIRIT:</i> <i>LIVING THE HOLY
SPIRIT-EMPOWERED LIFE.</i> IT'S AVAILABLE NOW. AND FOR MORE FROM LEE, YOU CAN VISIT HIM ONLINE AT RADIANT.CHURCH. AND AS ALWAYS,
MAKE SURE YOU JOIN THE CONVERSATION ONLINE, BY LEAVING US A COMMENT ON FACEBOOK,
INSTAGRAM OR TWITTER. WE ALWAYS LOVE HEARING HOW TABLE TALK IS
TOUCHING YOUR LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR WATCHING. AND I TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S JUST ALL THANK THE
LORD FOR HOLY SPIRIT. FATHER, EVERYONE
THAT'S WATCHING TODAY, I PRAY THAT YOU
WOULD JUST INFILTRATE THAT ROOM. THAT YOUR PRESENCE
WOULD BE SO RESIDENT AS THEY'RE
SITTING THERE AND WATCHING THIS
WHEREVER THEY ARE. HOLY SPIRIT,
EMPOWER THEM. AND, FATHER, I
JUST THANK YOU FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THIS DAY,
IN THIS HOUR, THAT WE CAN
BE EMPOWERED BY THE PERSON OF
HOLY SPIRIT. WE THANK YOU
FOR THAT IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. ALL: AMEN. ♪♪
