SO IT'S NOT LIKE -- BUT IT IS ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF DATA. >> CAN I ASK YOU AN INTERESTING IP ISSUE, WHICH IS SOMETHING I CAN SAY AS SOMEBODY WHO IS IN THE KRCREATIVE BUSINESS OR JOURNALISTIC BUSINESS OR CARE ABOUT COPYRIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS ON TRAINING ON THIS DATA IS THESE THINGS ARE NOT BEING TRAINED ON PEOPLE'S COPYRIGHTED INFORMATION HISTORICALLY. THAT'S BEEN THE CONCEPT. >> YEAH, THAT'S A HUGE LIE. >> SAY IT AGAIN. >> THIS AI IS ALL TRAINED ON COPYRIGHTED DATA OBVIOUSLY. >> SO YOU THINK IT IS A LIE WHEN OPEN AI SAYS THAT THIS IS NOT -- NONE OF THESE GUYS SAY THEY'RE TRAINING ON COPYRIGHTED DATA. >> THAT'S A LIE. >> STRAIGHT UP? >> IT'S A STRAIGHT UP LIE. 100%. OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN TRAINED ON COPYRIGHTED DATA. >> WHICH IS ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN UPLOADING -- >> ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN UPLOADING ARTICLES, THE BEST QUOTES FROM DIFFERENT ARTICLES, VIDEOS TO X, ALL OF THAT CAN BE TRAINED ON. AND IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE PEOPLE PUT ALL OF THAT THERE, AND THOSE QUOTES HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY BEEN CONSIDERED FAIR USE. >> YEAH. >> AND INDIVIDUALLY ON A FAIR USE BASIS, YOU SAY, OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO THREADS. AND BY THE WAY, THERE MAY BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE AN ARTICLE THAT HAS A THOUSAND WORDS. TECHNICALLY ALL THOUSAND WORDS COULD HAVE MADE IT ON TO X SOMEHOW. AND EFFECTIVELY NOW YOU HAVE THIS REMARKABLE REPOSITORY. AND I WONDER WHAT YOU -- HOW YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AGAIN AND HOW YOU THINK THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO WERE THE ORIGINAL IP OWNERS SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT BY THE TIME THESE LAWSUITS ARE DECIDED, WE'LL HAVE A DIGITAL GUIDE. WE'LL HAVE A DIGITAL GUIDE AT THAT POINT. THESE LAWSUITS WON'T BE DECIDED BEFORE IN A TIME FRAME THAT IS RELEVANT. >> IS THAT A GOOD THING OR A BAD THING? >> I THINK WE LIVE -- YOU KNOW, THERE IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ACTUALLY A REAL THING OR NOT, BUT WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES BECAUSE, APPARENTLY, NOT A GOOD THING. BUT PERSONALLY, I WOULD PREFER TO LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES. AND WE LIVE IN THE MOST INTERESTING OF TIMES. I THINK -- AND FOR A WHILE I WAS REALLY GETTING DEMOTIVATED AND LOSING SLEEP OVER SORT OF THE THREAT OF AI DANGER. AND THEN I FINALLY BECAME FATALISTIC ABOUT IT AND SAID, WELL, EVEN IF I KNEW ANNIHILATION WAS CERTAIN, WOULD I CHOOSE TO BE ALIVE AT THAT TIME OR NOT? AND I SAID I PROBABLY WOULD CHOOSE TO BE ALIVE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THING. EVEN IF THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT. SO THEN, BASICALLY, SORT OF A FATALISTIC RESIGNATION HELPED ME SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE I WAS HAVING TROUBLE SLEEPING AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE AI DATA. NOW, WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT? I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST OR THE ONE BANGING THE DRUM THE HARDEST, BY FAR THE LONGEST, OR AT LEAST ONE OF THE LONGEST, FOR
