FINE, SURE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU OPEN AI, I MEAN, YOU SEEM SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATED WITH THAT. YOU WERE ONE OF THE BIG CONTRIBUTORS EARLY ON. >> I AM THE REASON OPEN AI EXISTS. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU GIVE >> SO I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT IS SOME NUMBER ON THE ORDER OF $50 MILLION MAN, FATE LOVES IRONY NEXT LEVEL. SO I USED TO BE CLOSE FRIENDS WITH IRA PAGE AND I WOULD STAY AT HIS HOUSE AND WE WOULD HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS LONG INTO THE EVENING ABOUT AI I WOULD BE CONSTANTLY URGING HIM TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE DANGER OF AI, AND HE WAS REALLY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE DANGER OF AI HE WAS QUITE CAVALIER ABOUT IT AND AT THE TIME, GOOGLE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THEIR ACQUISITION OF DEEP MIND HAD THREE-QUARTERS OF THE WORLD'S AI TALENT THEY HAD A LOT OF COMPUTERS AND A LOT OF MONEY THE UNICORN WORLD, BUT THE PERSON WHO CONTROLS THAT, THEY'RE NOT SEEMED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AI SAFETY, THAT SOUNDED LIKE A REAL PROBLEM. AND THEN THE FINAL STRAW WAS LARRY CALLS ME A SPECIES FOR BEING PRO-HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS. YES, I GUESS I AM A SPECIES. >> YOU HELPED WITH $50 MILLION. >> MORE THAN HELPED. IT WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT ME I CAME UP WITH THE NAME. OPEN AI REFERS TO OPEN SOURCE. SO THE INTENT IS WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF GOOGLE IT WOULD BE AN OPEN SOURCE NON-PROFIT BECAUSE GOOGLE IS CLOSED SOURCE FOR PROFIT AND THAT FOR PROFIT COULD BE DANGEROUS. >> SHOULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN GOVERNANCE FOR THAT MONEY? SHOULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN SOME LEVEL OF CONTROL, PERHAPS IN RE RETROSPECT >> YEAH. I FEEL LIKE A HUGE IDIOT HERE. SO, ANYWAY, SO OPEN AI IS AN OPEN SOURCE. IT WAS CREATE D. SO PART OF IT IS ALSO IN THE BEGINNING I THOUGHT, LOOK, THIS IS PROBABLY A HOPELESS ENDEAVOR. HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY COMPETE WITH -- HOW COULD OPEN AI POSSIBLY COMPETE WITH GOOGLE DEEP MIND? THIS SEEMED LIKE AN ELEPHANT, NOT A CONTEST. AND I WAS ALSO -- I MEAN, I -- I WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN RECRUITING THE KEY SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS FOR SPECIFICALLY, MOST NOTABLY A MAN THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE HE WOULD SAY HE WOULD BE ON OPEN AI DENNIS WOULD CONVINCE HIM NOT TO I WOULD CONVINCE HIM TO DO SO. ULTIMATELY HE DECIDED TO JOIN OPEN AI, WHICH WAS THE LYNCH PIN FOR IT BEING SUCCESSFUL. >> SO YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED IN IT BECOMING FOR PROFIT. HAVE YOU TAKEN ACTION? >> I DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME -- LOOK, IT DOES SEEM WEIRD THAT SOMETHING CAN BE A NONPROFIT OPEN SOURCE AND SOMEHOW TRANSFORM ITSELF INTO A FOR PROFIT CLOSED SOURCE I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE LIKE LET'S SAY YOU FIND AN ORGANIZATION TO SAVE THE AMAZON RAIN FOREST. INSTEAD, THEY BECAME A LUMBER COMPANY AND JUNKED OUT THE FOREST AND SOLD IT FOR MONEY YOU WOULD BE LIKE, WAIT A SECOND, THAT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE FOR WHAT I HAVE GIVEN THE MONEY FOR. IS THAT LEGAL? THAT DOESN'T SEEM LEGAL. IN GENERAL, IF IT IS LEGAL TO START A COMPANY AS A NONPROFIT AND THEN TAKE THE IP AND TRANSFER IT TO A FOR PROFIT THAT THEN MAKES TONS OF MONEY, SHOULDN'T EVERYONE START -- SHOULDN'T THAT BE THE DEFAULT? >> RIGHT AND THEN I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE -- LIKE WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, LET'S SAY THEY DO CREATE SOME DIGITAL SUPER INTELLIGENCE, ALMOST GOD-LIKE INTELLIGENCE, WELL, WHO DOES THAT CONTROL? AND WHAT EXACTLY IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OPEN AI AN MICROSOFT? I WORRY THAT MICROSOFT MADE IT MORE IN CONTROL. AS PART OF THE MICROSOFT INVESTMENT, THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO ALL OF THE SOFTWARE, ALL OF THE MODEL WEIGHTS AND EVERYTHING. >> S
Here he goes again spinning his ususal yarn.
Wait. So:
I mean..........
I read he tried to "coup d'état" openAI (hostile take over) like he did Tesla but they kicked him off the board instead. And only then did he start saying AI was a threat.
The whole “open source, nonprofit/closed source, for profit” 180 degree mental gymnastics feat was fascinating to watch.
...and he was fired from OpenAI because they quickly realized his utter incompetence.
Also elon: i also created heaven and earth
“More than helped it wouldn’t exist without me”
“I have them $50 million”
“I came up with the name”
Does Elon know that there could have just been other investors, and that the name is fairly generic?
Elon really popped all the Ambien before this interview huh?
Didn’t he invent the concept of flying?