Electro-Harmonix VS Sovtek Amp Shootout

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need more grateful dang we have a good episode today we have not been live in quite some time i don't even know what the last one was it doesn't matter because today's a new day it is the 25th of this month and we are doing an electro harmonix amp shootout basically on your left that's the new dirt road special combo sitting on top of a new mig 50 head going into a cab and over here is an original vintage 77 or something dirt road special and an original 90s mig 51 that i have used for years and years and we'll go back and forth uh if we show the pedal board cam here uh basically have a head switcher it's got to be it's got to be lined up right addison yeah it doesn't have to be real nice thanks for fixing that yeah we're switching out here you don't need to know this and then i have uh some ehx pedals which are real handy for this situation i'm going to use the deluxe memory man with tap tempo that's the one hey what chips is that one it doesn't matter chips don't matter what chips is that haven't you got ships in it where i use this we're going to use the ocean's 11 for any verbs to be honest it's going to probably stay on spring reverb at a very minimal setting just to annoy people who want to hear sounds the eddie is new it is it's a coarse vibrato with a ton of knobs i don't know how i feel about all the knobs i'm kind of a like three knob person i respect this though because we've never done anything as powerful as this so in that way you know they win that's a good puddle uh soviet era reissue of the big muff i knew some people were going to be like you know i'm playing some tank pedals here's the deal look at me in the eyes i'm not going to play them because they're all broken that's kind of that's where we're at the back down of the cam the east river is a tube screamer um hey what chip does it have in it it has a chip in it does anyone know why it's called the east river is that where the ehx location is it's a new york geographical location okay yeah you're close but why why would they call it overdrive dirt pedal the east river because it's a green because it's a [Music] i think it's because it's a dirty river yeah if you're from new york in those comments do you agree that they named it that because it's a dirty river i think that's where mobsters dump people and stuff oh there's the seinfeld episode where kramer because he has some back issues he starts swimming in it right he smells like the east river there's a situation with a mattress if you're a yeah yeah if you're a fan you know lpb1 this is the circuit that started electro harmonix back in 67. um and this is the reissue this is the greatest cheap pedal you could ever buy just a classic transistor boost yeah with that said we're gonna give away a ton of stuff as usual ernie ball trivia time one lucky winner will get an entire box of ernie ball strings of your choosing right now though addison take it away for our first giveaway hey hey oh wait hold on [Laughter] nice we have not won hercules product today hercules thanks for sending us stuff to give away this is a microphone stand for your desk it's like a tiny little thing it could also hold a microphone in front of your guitar amp that's cool a snare drum that's cool a kick drum a gopro a gopro what it can it can do a number of things it's cool it'll hold anything you can strap to it that's it so the first person to get this uh question right gets this guy and then the second person gets wait for it it's a laptop stand from hercules that's cool that'll hold your laptop it'll hold your laptop yep on a table on a stand it'll hold it different places so will it hold it in the rain will it hold it on a train hey it uh you tell me will it help me through my pain are you guys is this a real song uh it's green eggs and ham oh okay that wasn't cultured and does it happen to come from the 90s movie hercules don't lie to me what do you think i think yes okay cool let's do it you're right here goes in disney's 1997 animated film hercules which actor played the voice of hercules go throw your answer in the comments all right while we wait on that let's jump right into this um here's a little ghosties real quick yeah little ghosties said that i don't know where to go josh what's your hair today my gosh really way up um thank you it's not it's just an observation i thought you were going to make fun of me because you were earlier you said thank you joshua was the better all adult go ahead sorry uh little ghosties said that i lost it again it's not a river east river drive is a highway oh i don't know if it's true but there is an east river but east i'm just saying what the people said well and they know i'm a man of the people i've only yeah okay that's cool awesome it's a great name either way i think yeah all right here's what we're trying to do so i got to shoot these out the new and the old um and that's what we're going to do we're going to jam and in the beginnings of jams i'm going to switch between them and you're going to see this screen new old new old and you'll hear me play through the old amp when you see old and through the new amp when you see new and i'm going to try to do this it's hard to do but we're going to try to do this so i'm going to play a strat style guitar and then i have a les paul and that's that's the basics is there anything i'm missing no just you just gotta play you gotta feel it just gotta do it and the first question is what are these reissues and where the originals come from i think that's worth covering so hey josh i have a question yeah what are these reissues and where did the originals come from oh yeah [Music] it's not really pedal history but it works it's a good stinger okay so the first electro harmonix amp is this amp over here on the top right it is called the dirt well it's called the mike matthews amp it's a dirt road special dang that's bold yeah it's called the mike matthews amplifier there's a model of this that has a built-in phaser that is the coolest thing ever and i believe that's called the dirt road it's confusing because they're very similar amps very simple controls mine doesn't have anything in it it's just the amp which is a volume a tone and a bike control and this amp over here was designed by bob meyer who designed the big muff the memory man et cetera et cetera and they put this out in the late 70s the one we have is hissing and squealing maybe you can hear that if you're in headphones it's dying there's a bad cap in it but there's an episode called solid state sucks and we played it and it worked fine for that so if you want to hear more of that original amp go check it out so that's like where it starts electronics makes pedals they go bankrupt early 80s mike sees the need to uh out of the bankruptcies like people are buying these electro harmonix pedals so i'm gonna use this russian tube factory i'm using and have some of these original pedals made in russia primarily the big muff the small stone stuff like that and along with that came this opportunity to make amplifiers in russia and that's where we have sav tech or sovtech meaning soviet tech soviet technology um and when you look at the bottom that would be the mig 50. if you've seen any of our episodes they're always on these shelves there's mig 50s mix 60s and mig 100s there's just gobs of these amps and usually the number refers to the wattage so this is the most popular amp is the mig 50. it's been an amp i've used for years and years and years and they recently reissued that amp on the bottom uh yeah and so that's why one says electro harmonics because there is no longer a need for sovtech as a name because mike actually had to sell that and that's why i used saabtech he got the name back and he's he makes sob tech products now under that name if you look at the pedalboard cam this doesn't need to say savtec even though it's technically a reissue of a sob tech big muff right that's the same thing here so these bottom amps new and old they're the same exact thing supposedly that's what we're gonna get to the bottom of today the cab over here is a new reissue of the cab and then on top of that we have the new dirt road special and the question there is is it the same as these older amps or new the new one has a holy grail reverb in it which is really wild i think it's the holier grill that's a mouthful with that said let's give away this hercules and then jam is that does that satisfy the basic needs here to do this properly if you're a new viewer okay my questions are answered all right let's do the giveaway and get into it joshua okay the giveaway who won the question in disney's 1997 animated film hercules which actor played the voice of hercules uh our first winner is punk clown so if your name is punk clown please email us at jhs pedals no addison help me one of my vlogs and i am picking a second winner right now we'll get there josh i have one question while he's getting yeah the primary differences between wattages is it just wattages are there circuit differences on on some of those mig wattages are always gonna in the amp world not always kind of always it's a big hint at topology that's a lot of not definite statements i just said i understand it but for those that don't so the mig 50 the amp we're going to play the head it is based around there's a mig-30 that was a production error that they stuck with and just had to use so they called it 30 because it was 30 watts the mig 50 is a like a 59 basement meets a plexi which is ironic because a basement created the plexi that story so that 50 we know is like a basement plexi which is my favorite amp there's a 60 which feels more like a marshall the 100 is more like a marshall so you can use these numbers in this line i think everywhere even a prototype i have a mig 80. there's one on earth it's 80 watts okay um tube type like with the 50 it's going to be 6l6s with the 60s el 84s i believe 34's 30 yeah um so the numbers are hints at the model obviously but the wattage and kind of once you get into the subtech black hole which we will do a big episode on one day um this is like the appetizer this isn't the meal yeah but yeah you can know that each number means a totally different model a lot of people will get a mig 60 and i saw a guy on a there's a soft tech group on facebook real nerdy he's like my mix 60 doesn't sound like my 50. what's wrong with it it's like it's a totally different the numbers are the model amazing yeah that was the longest sexual nation no that's possibly shortest answer you needed that's okay because i have a second winner now do it uh your the second winner to the question is dolla bintami dala dala bin dalabin dollar bin oh dala bin tommy yeah okay nice vlog at jhspedals.com it's a good rap name all right so my goal here is let's start with the noisy amp so we can turn it off yes uh we're gonna start with the old mike matthews amp dirt road special et cetera et cetera against the new model um so here we go here's the old one volume pedal off all right strat bridge pickup [Music] let's turn our mics off it's going to be one of those situations and i'll just go new and old [Music] interesting hold on [Music] so so right off the top and i knew this before the episode big shocker these are very different super different so this older amp as you'll see in the solid state sucks it shines at a particular sound which is this it is the like turned up really gritty super nasally i'm actually going to go turn the amp up a little bit let you hear it and then we'll focus on the new one because they're just different amps i don't yeah the shootout is pointless this is like when people shoot out like a metal zone and a clone i don't understand those videos or like the idea so [Music] let me plug in the les paul that room is crazy in my talky mic all right les paul i like the old one i agree is my favorite and turned up too it sounds amazing it sounds really cool it sucks because it's solid state but it does actually seem really good nothing sounds good here's the les paul proof not that you needed [Music] so here's the thing they are very different i actually prefer the new one why the old one does that one sound really well the new one does stuff the old one won't do one is stay clean so i'm thinking i don't really play dirty amps if like what's cool is the old one you have in the studio it's a kill like it's a one trick tony that's amazing it cuts through the mix the jam we is like amazing in that episode but the new one i'm gonna leave it on the new one with les paul and i'll kind of show it stays really clean it is a better made amp it's a better like right technic there is no better but it's a a more like stable stable well-made circuit well-made amp with more sounds yeah it's maybe more versatile than the old one there's a foot switch on the floor by the mig and i'll hit that and you'll hear reverb turn on that's cool too oh that is cool so it has a built-in i think it's a holier grille [Music] i'm trying to decide [Music] how to describe the quality of of the way that sounds because it's so specific like [Music] it's kind of like not nasal is not the right word maybe that's kind of what i was thinking about which is like cool that's helpful in some some spots [Music] [Music] interesting it's so different yeah so i have it it has a cool controller it's on both of these and we went and spent some time with bob meyer he's in his 90s we asked him about the amps i actually have in that box up there it's called a show you want to grab it the white box um i actually have the original tester rig for the trend power transistors oh yes um it has the control called a bike control and it was an accident and mike loved it yeah and they just kept it and that's one of my favorite controls this this is fun bob gave me this it's from the 70s when they tested transistors for the original amps focus is tricky do top down when uh yeah this is a really cool i guess it's a piece of history it's like the most bizarre useless piece of history ever but it's fun yeah it's just what they use to test the transistors it's in like a it's in a big mouth case i guess that was for the transistors specifically for the amp yeah it says bad or good and when you put one in the parameters he has a circuit in here which says good or bad they can use it for the amp and so flip it on off that's cool yeah useless fun history i like it so that's the bike control though the point is it was an accident and it's like this strange high-end thing and i'm so glad they left it in the new ant yeah it's really unique i think this is one of them i think it is the currently most unique solid state amp you can buy that control is really cool and when they added the reverb in it's real nice you wanna jam sure on that yeah we'll jam on the new one am i too loud i think it's just yeah microphones all right and then we'll move on to the heads [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] um [Music] [Applause] [Music] ah [Applause] okay [Music] [Applause] [Music] i never get to do feedback in here because i'm always in the iso that's right i felt it yeah i mean i was like i got to go there yeah i'm going to turn the old one off cool because it's hissing yeah like a like a wounded raptor yeah okay wounded raptor is my new that's a good uh it's like my new thrash hop band thrash hop yeah it's like thrashing metal mixed with hip-hop um so it's kind of like what lincoln parker's trying to do when they were combining rap and rock except this will be a like a little bit more aggressive and like way cooler that's a good reference lincoln park though yeah i get that i very much hey to address the technical things going on out there in the world sorry about that what are they we we have that clipping issue going on which we're getting to the bottom of but it is a stream software program i have heard from the company we'll we'll get that fixed yeah they said it's a problem they're trying to fix so we're trying to find a workaround forgive us i love paying like lots of money a year for a program yeah it doesn't work right but we have we have a we have like a definition for it so we'll get there we'll get there cool it's free it's free you know you didn't pay for this yeah right so all right what do you guys think i mean i i dig that amp the old one is super special yeah they're very different the shootout is almost pointless right well i mean i think it's just i think it's cool for people to hear like the difference but yeah i definitely feel like if it if i just had to pick an amp sound i would pick the old one because i could do so much with it but if you had to live with one like forever yeah and that's all you had like i would pick the new one just because it's more versatile and you can stack pedals on it and have like a lot more seriously in the old one is like for the the you that's young and free and then the newer one's like dad likes you the old one um or maybe opposite i don't know because there's a world where you know you know you're just like a minimalist guitar player you're just like i got a sound and that's it just one sound you know okay but but yeah maybe there's some questions about the combos what about in the comments what do you think addison you generally what do you think well i love i think between the both of them they both have like a pretty distinct like they share that same kind of vibe same sound i mean they're very different but like they have a very unique uh characteristic about them that i feel like is both unique to like those two amps so um i think for that reason they're really cool i still think i like the old one uh just because it is like such a mid-rangey thing that's yeah that's my preference but if you were to like re create the old amp sound with like pedals would you have like an idea of where to start with that because i love the way the old amp sounds but like i also you know don't want to be stuck with it it might just be that it needs to be hit with a boost or like yeah equalizer and just knock them mids right right that's cool it's probably that simple well let me try real quick yeah you should try it [Music] let me turn the verb off [Music] josh pulled his ears out on accident there's there's a nest of cables going on over here okay so we have that like fully pulled my ears out that's like that hurts really exciting here we go all right there's the amp so loud i'm gonna turn my mic off we'll leave it on the pedal board cam and then i'll i'll hit it with the boost we'll see what happens cool ah [Music] yeah it it's really cool for a solid state to take input gain that it like saturates really well it's really cool it's like almost like solid state is like not terrible i always thought it sucked yeah we did an episode on that about how bad i mean i wouldn't go so far as to say that it doesn't suck but i wouldn't go so far to say that it does i like the stamp i like the new one it's cool let's all stare at it that it's the top combo in the middle let's just stare at it together it's really cute out there online yeah what do you think about it you know i like how the mic is in front of it yes like how it is that has the speed even in front of the speaker yeah it is there's like a shadow illusion there it's shadow illusion is my other band hey how many bands do you have just like so many cool let's uh let's get on with this and go to mig town you all ready mig town ready to go i'm gonna mute those other two you cool with that we don't oh wait but before we go to mgtown i i i was just struck by something i can't i'm not sure what it was but i think it was ernie ball trivia time oh my gosh hey everybody welcome to ernie ball trivia time are you okay nick did you yeah yeah it was just like you know um how heavy was it how hard did it well it was more it was less of a like physical it was more of an idea something from the cosmos kind of beckoning me towards it and it was earning ball trivia time so but you're okay i'm fine cool welcome to the time where ernie ball our awesome friends and uh just great creators give away a whole pack of strings to one of you so i'm gonna read a trivia question just like the other one and if you are the first one to get it right in the comments you get a whole pack of strings so here is the question oh with this ominous music underneath this one's really interesting you guys uh here's the question actor ben stiller featured what ernie ball product in the 2006 tenacious d movie pick of destiny oh interesting i was very surprised by the answer i hope somebody gets it did ben stiller made that movie i didn't know that ben stiller made that movie yeah i didn't know that either is he in it because no it's jack black maybe he produced her director that's cool yeah anyways throw your uh throw your answer in the comments good luck with this one this one's a little really exciting the comments may become a dumpster fire if you're not involved in that movie all right let's uh let's talk about these amps here so new is simply a reissue of the old we're talking about the bottom heads here running through a cab you're hearing them through a 112 speaker i'm going to start with the old one no effects so big huge obvious thing if you don't know it this is my favorite amp in the history of the world the mig 50. i plug into input two i do not like input one i've experienced that it's pointless input two has everything i want what is it that you like it's a little bit should we just demo it yeah demo it would you go over there yeah let's let people hear here's the amp it's two 6l6s 50 watts i always set the tone straight to noon on everything and the volume i run right now it looks like it's around 10 o'clock sure so this is it bridge pickup of a les paul let's play a little bit and then you just switch yeah match the volumes and then switch the cable [Music] okay one is a mud fest that's weird do you know any history behind that it's just that it's a darker input which is were they trying to compensate for something with a darker input i don't know what they were trying to do i've just never liked it i actually actually have never really i have the schematics and know the it pretty well but i've never thought about even looking i just don't like the first input i mean it has a bigger resistor play it again and then go back to the other one yep [Music] okay so much better yeah and the way i play with pedals i leave the amp clean i need that brightness which is ironic because i mainly play single coil jazz masters and stuff but so if you'll notice i really like this amp because of the buzzword touch sensitivity it's really nice i mean it is a basement at heart so i like everything about it if i pick lightly i'll add a little ocean's 11 here spring that drips does drip [Music] so it's really clean if i bite into it though [Music] that's cool [Music] yeah i just think it's a really great amp um and so how does the new one stack up that's the big thing the first thing to consider is when you're looking at an old one staring at that head on the bottom there um i've changed every pot in that amp every i think i have six of these heads originals and i've changed every pot i've changed every switch and i think every jack they all break they are all made of like broken dreams and wet cardboard the amp is made well other than that they are very problematic because of that you might have two or three and you turn them all to the same volume and they're nowhere near the same volume because the pots are literally made of broken dreams and cardboard wet cardboard and so that's number one to consider vintage is not better in that aspect that's and it's the same like if you looked at there's so many broken petals in this room yeah yeah like you know the amount of stuff as the collectors we buy that's just i just buy stuff knowing it's broken because it's so rare like fuzz faces and old pedals so yeah the old sounds great i love it i've modded them with better parts i never touched the circuit there's no need i do have one that dave friedman i sent it to him and he modded it into like one of his more popular takes on a marshall um it got kicked over the other day and the power jack broke out of it so we're not playing that one but it's a totally different beast at this point so that's the original shall we yeah play the old one just one more time to get it just to get it in our head yeah i'll play it for a second [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right fancy guy [Music] all right ready switch it old new did you switch it what's that said did you switch it how about i don't show which one i'm on and addison flips the switch okay [Music] so bridge pick up big chords [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] he's switching it this entire time [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] yeah so i mean totally different two brands in them right uh not probably slight parts difference i mean i'm sure there are i'm sure there's like resistor values slightly different not the same tubes but they did a really good job just by the new one i mean my advice to everyone is stop the freaking madness over these these prices are like escalating on the vintage ones if you're wanting the amp because you've heard someone play it or you've heard me use it or rave about it just go buy the new one like yeah it's not not good because it's not vintage right that's just really bad logic unless you just unless you just want an old one what you want to collect is whatever i didn't finish my sentence yeah says the person with tons of right right right like if you want to collect that's a different story yeah have fun but if you're just wanting a really good 50 watt amp yeah this is one of the best ones you can buy for the money what's the price i don't even know the price yeah we should look it up i have a new one yeah the new mig 50 head use it with any cab if you have a cab we actually when we get into the episode i have the first prototype it's over there we have some fun stuff to show of the new year issue but yeah it's i think it's really affordable i mean how much i bet you could find on like ebay like a soft badge or something and like throw it on the new one stop it that would be sick how much is it it's six hundred and thirty eight dollars like you're not gonna find a better 6l6 that's a great 50 watt head there aren't many that you don't even are in that price range yeah that you don't have to change any parts you're not gonna have to change any parts on switch out pots or jacks because they'll probably be broken addison's listen listen listen listen the other day when when you got you brought it in from your house because mike sent it to you yeah you plugged in and i said oh my gosh that time and then i said can i borrow one you said borrow one of my old ones and they sound the same my gosh for 640 go buy yourself one of these people [Music] yeah again i'm gonna say that we have nothing to gain here there's no like there's no uh triangle of economy happening between me and eh mike sent that i have all these he knows i'm obsessed with sob techs um and i had the proto and i messaged them and he sent me the new dirt road which i had played at the factory a couple years ago nick you were there and then yeah he sent a newer production i wanted to make sure the proto wasn't weird yeah and uh i'm just being honest there are no 50 watt heads under like a thousand dollars that don't suck yeah i mean there's probably something and i'm offending someone but that's yeah just go buy it and like you said the sob tech i know they're somewhere someone will make them um if you're just hung up on it saying sob tech yeah someone needs to someone out there just start make a sob tech badge and just sell them on like the black market somewhere and people can just yeah if they just want to feel label it i'd do that let's jam on the new one let me put the east river drive through new and old just to satisfy people alright here's the old [Music] i'll also play the strap before we jam so here's with the east river [Music] then here's the new [Music] [Applause] i love being out of tune just enough let's rock and roll yeah it's fine i'm out of tune and i'm tuning and and this is a glorified podcast anyway so yeah exactly it's so odd that you're tuning a les paul that you're going to call one you'll never guess what string was out old new here we go yeah i'm not gonna spend any more time on this amazing the new one let's look at it together stare down there seven hundred dollars you could probably get it cheaper if you go in and harass your local store there's also the cab is great it sounds phenomenal we have the og cab over in the honestly i wouldn't even try to gig with the original speakers are probably i don't know they probably have east river juice all over them and dust and soviet fumes of pain so that fumes of pain is made that's another band you can buy the cab for 340. you get the whole really beautiful rig for a grand and it's not gonna break sounds great all right so yeah does it sound the same yes [Music] what do you think in the comments let let's get a let's see if there's any questions about this amp we'll go to a gym let's jam on the old one maybe after this we do hot topics maybe yeah and then jam on the new one yeah we still have to announce an ernie ball yeah so let's do that right now and then we'll jam okay yeah um the winner the question actor ben stiller featured what ernie ball product in the 2006 tenacious d movie pick of destiny do you know what was it i'm not convinced ben stiller's involved in that movie it is the answer is ernie ball amp casters oh wait i didn't even know that was amp casting like the little wheels yeah yeah we we passed him at the factory the other day that's funny we passed ben stiller no the amp casters um fun fact when i was in junior high all my friends used to tell me i looked like ben stiller i don't know if that's true i don't know if it was true then it's certainly not true now but yeah another fact ben stiller is a really good drummer was in some fans and he co-owns a pro audio company i won't say who it is but he's a partner in microphones and preamps so john chandler you're the winner of the amp caster question please email us at vlog jhspedals.com yeah any choice of strings you want a whole box all right i'm over to the strat the silver sky just because i'm covering my bases here's here's the new one here's the old one all right we're gonna stay on the new one we're good with that yes yeah yeah you want to jam on the new one let's do this um and just just accumulate comments we want to do a few questions about these amps because this kind of episode is kind of even hard to know what to do so let the questions guide us after hot topics let's stay out of that key what key i want to play in addison what do you want to do i mean there's something special about d always yeah let's or g [Music] let's see [Music] just [Music] yeah d to a minor will work [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hmm [Music] [Applause] um [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] this guitar does not fit the saabtech aesthetic correct are we correct in that yes sir that's correct this guitar is like hey let's have a good time this summer and like hang out with our friends and go to the beach and the saab tech aesthetic is like hey let's win a war and like conquer the world with darkness yeah yeah i guess it's time for uh hot topics yeah hey everybody welcome to hot topics the uh show where we answer your burning questions on the world's favorite gear forum the gear page and it's not sponsored by a gear page they don't ask at all they don't want they don't want us to do this this actually might not be good for the gear page i don't know such thing as an anti-sponsorship uh yeah i think so um so yeah there's some several hot topics today um um we'll hit we'll hit a couple real quick here um hey this one's appropriate which one is the most popular big muff in your opinion oh i'll let you guys answer that because i have like i have no i have no grid for you go first ass you're the gearboy i don't know if i haven't answered that one either uh most popular big muff what's the what's just the standard it's the pie yeah the red lettering and the bigger box because they reissued it in the early when early i think it's as well it's the v3 just the new york city pie i think that's the most known yep now if you talk to big muff connoisseurs or like if daniel danger is on drop a comment and daniel josh will find it tiny media what is i don't know he would be good to ask i think it might be ram's head um just because pink floyd used it and it has like this following i don't know i don't know either it's weird because i want to say it could be russian if you're a race player it could be the ram set if you like classic rock and then someone will be like it's the triangle because it was first and it's all gatey i don't know and then you'll have smashing pumpkins people say it's the ic yeah there's no right answer yeah which is why that form exists it's it's an impossible question there's some there's some other like really spicy ones on here um uh you know stuff like do you polish your frets uh no that's not i don't know do you either you do don't you addison no i don't you don't i don't i'll clean them sometimes yeah i think what's the difference in cleaning and polishing that i think when you polish correct me if i'm wrong out there but you really you tape off your fretboard and you actually like you get some steel exactly and you you really get after i don't do that who does that yeah i don't know i don't our big guitar big guitar rack units a thing of the past are they still relevant in 2021 what do you guys think i think it probably depends on how much money you can spend on having people take care of them for you yeah the rack unit the problem with the rack unit is you need a team like if you're gonna load in you're not playing like you're not in kansas city playing what's a venue like uptown up town you're not gonna do that yeah you roll in with freaking rack units i mean your dad your dad would probably do that if he had my my dad dad if you're watching my dad used to run a wet dry wet mix in like in like bar venues so he had like three amps that are the size of this yeah yeah the right the rack stuff is such a commitment yeah i can't possibly see it becoming what it was no i just don't think it's as accessible i think i think it's probably more of a collector thing if you have a studio but like for guitar players i just don't see it being very practical um bigger is not better either i think there was a thing in the 80s which is like this rack unit is physically bigger so it has more in it and that was never the case exactly yeah and it is definitely not the case now it's an illusion totally feels good i mean and to get off this topic rack units like delta lab rack units were used as set props on the original tron movie yeah yeah yeah there's it's a yeah it's all meditated all right yeah um this might be an interesting thing this this episode might answer this question but uh best amp that's a one-trick pony but that's really freaking good do you think that the the these subtech heads kind of fit into that the head yeah that's like you know i mean i think that old that old amp is like this is a one-trick pony but it does the one thing really good that's a good question i think that i barely i mean you can crank a mig 50 in a live room have this big tweed distortion plug you can make it do things i don't care to make it do yeah so i'd hate to call it a one trick pony the original matthews amp is a one trick yeah for sure what else is that there was something another one you played on the solid states oh suck and it was like champs yeah yes those things sound sick yeah um and i'm just gonna throw this last one out i'm i don't even i don't even want you to answer it okay i just i'm just gonna throw it out there because it's on the gear page do we have questions from commenters yeah yes about this about or about about the mig 50s and stuff all right so after this we're going to ignore it just out and go to q a i want you to can we put the camera switcher on just switch between josh and addison and i'm just going to ask the question i just want to just i want to look at their faces as i ask it okay okay how to reconcile balancing an expensive guitarist hobby with life bills and responsibility and that's the end of hot topics thank you guys for watching [Music] all right let's get let's move on again janik kalero i don't know if i said that right please forgive me if i didn't um i'm not actually even sure which which of the two amps he's talking about but he asks can it do cleaner sounds like highway or jmp um if it's the mig 50 head yeah it'll get fairly loud and clean but it is a basement type thing so the beauty of it is it's a beautiful clean platform amp that breaks up just a little that makes every other dirt device you use even better yeah can you turn the base on or up yeah it has trouble mids and bass and presence i just put everything at noon and i've always loved that and i'm and i just never for and i also do that because i don't forget it and i just adapted to the fact that it's always up yeah that's a good question um so you ready for this there wasn't really that many questions about these that's all right so i mean they're pretty simple if dirt melchizedek asks um wait yeah is this the guy's name dirt melchizedek love it i need to take a nap could the new mig 50 double as a pillow or should i stick to the old one for that oh i think it comes down to that font what relaxes you for me i'm going to sleep better on the vintage font same it's a little softer then the new font it's smaller there's more there and less space and that causes the most small tiny bit of anxiety yeah that was that was awesome i know we've covered this already softec or sovtech i don't know it's soviet tech so in that sense it's sovtech but i don't like that so i say somtek yeah it's kind of like how it's per it should be pronounced like shakutri but i just call it charcuterie yeah let's act this out i'm the waiter what would you like uh today to start your meal are we using softec and sov tech or are we no okay sorry okay uh sir what would you like as an appetizer i would like some charcuterie yeah that's feels good what doesn't feel good what would you like today as an appetizer um uh i would like some shaku tree yeah that's how i feel about is that how you say that it's not still but it's closer that's how i feel about sob tech subject i also want to point out that's the second um we've we've acted out some scenarios because we're actors yeah because we're hectors okay we need a story one more question and then we'll move on to another jam and then we'll close off we have some special patreon questions as well um there's there's a few questions in here about comparing these to a basement and what would you prefer um i like these more i think they're not better i just like them i think i might like them because how they look too i think i might like them because i like putting all the knobs at noon and it works for me there's a lot of subtle things that i like the mid-range control yeah that option because the basement like yeah that's where it kind of morphs into the marshall-esque the jtm-45 so it is a nice blend of a basement it is more jtm45 than a basement i think to be fair so it's more adjustable i like this object more because it is more adjustable on that note i have a question yeah basements have been great like modification platforms you can turn them into like marshally things would you say some of these vintage ones dare i ask the question to modify them it's like yeah friedman modded mine he said he hated doing it because he had you know because it's the whole thing with changing the pots and the jacks and when you start getting in there it's like you don't want to take your stick and poke it into the wasp-ness right right like you don't want to really mod these i don't think um just build you could the schematic is online it's all over the place so but why when you can buy a new one for 640 dollars mod the new ones yeah yeah yeah one i like this question it's not it's not a technical one um what is it about soft tech that you love so much that you've just continued to collect them versus other amp heads i think the answer to that lies within a healthy amount of therapy and stuff probably from my childhood i don't know i have tried to figure this out because i am working on the definitive like bio with all the amps and it's going to be ridiculous it's going to be like a 45 minute thing probably i it happened because i ended up with a mig 50. so i ended up with the old one over here i think that's actually it and then i found another one and then i took one to a trade show and a guy walked up because i got one you want to try me some pedals and i got a third one and then i walked into maastricht music in lawrence and there was a mig 60. i was like i didn't know there were more and then i bought to make 60 for like 400 bucks and it just they just happened to me yeah i was gonna say it's not you remember it's not so much that you chose sovtech it's that sob tech chose you i think that's the because you've you've known me longer than anyone i didn't meet you with all these it just happened no i just it's just you know you just come into work and it's like oh there's another soft i actually became copper they started coming into the shop hey look what i got another soft tech it was kind of like yeah i mean they're everywhere there's stuff over here it's crazy anyway i love it let's uh let's do one more actually you want to jump into the patreon questions let's do this sure let's do this so a big huge thank you to these two patreon members basically we have tears not that we're crying we have different tiers levels i had to clarify there of our support at patreon and what that does is it helps pay for travel interviews documentary stuff we're working on resources that i use to write research tons of work and to run the show is quite the task we're up to five six people involved in how this all goes down and these are big supporting members this is the not god tier this is actually this is just general four yeah the top four yep so this is two three four and five two three yep yep so this is tim garringer i believe that's correct tim garringer when using an amp in a box amp in a box pedal such as a pedal designed to give you a marshall or a dumbbell sound so an example would be a wampler's plexi drive or let's say vertex he has like 19 dumbbell pedals like any of those people that do a lot of amps in a box should a case style pedal maybe that's climb are we at that point in guitar world where we have and now it's just referred to k-style k-style pedal go in front of it to simulate pushing the amp or after it to follow the conventional thinking of stacking gain high to low interesting wow well let's back up here's a mind bender the clone the clown was developed by bill so he could simulate the sound of his cranked twin in a small club oh it's not an amp in a box but is it interesting okay yeah that is interesting a cranked twin i don't think i knew it was a twin it's a deluxe or a twist well it doesn't prank defender it doesn't matter yeah that was what he was going for he said he used tube screamers didn't like him blah blah and he wanted something more authentic to the sound of how it was cranked this is a good question so here's where i stand on that so you know we have the twin 12 the super bolt etc i say you just treat them like overdrives um technically a morning glory by all intention if you trace back to its roots it was marshall's topology to stimulate the um jtm45 so ironically a morning glory is sort of an amp in a box i don't use it that way um nor does anyone else i think you just use them how you use them so if you're using it as this is how i stack pedals there might be an episode coming up on stacking um i put clean drives into heavier and heavier drives some people do that the other way it's all preference your question just caused tons of questions and i love it um i think it's preference i think people do stuff differently and now i know to just call it clonic k style pedal yeah just this is huge thank you tim i hope that's helpful i mean i feel like it's just one of those questions that to each his own um if i were you i would put my charlie brown or a angry charlie i'd treat it like an overdrive and put it on my board according to its level of gain that's my answer ben tobith what are the jhs pedals on john mayer's new board this was the topic of the day guitar world posted a photo of his grateful dead rig and there's a prestige if you don't know the prestige john has used that for a while four or five years on and off um he uses it like he uses all boosts he just kicks it on for more of what he already has the other pedal is a mystery pedal that shall shall not be named it's the black box it says something on top but unfortunately the picture doesn't show that and sorry there's two of those in the world it has four jackson on and off switch and two knobs there's another matching pedal to it that i don't see in the picture let it haunt you that's where we're at with that mysteries are healthy it's good if you knew everything you'd just it'd be like what like you'd just be bored yeah i'm not doing that to be a jerk we've like getting to know him has been really great i respect his privacy he's literally like a tmz character i'm not gonna like it's fun to make someone gear because they enjoy gear and for no other reason like i don't make him stuff to play around with hoping that he'll like have a pedal with us and i'll get that's not my i just like doing it so we'd leave it at that yeah and respect his privacy yeah yeah maybe we should just like yeah just mind our own pedal business you know what i mean sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes it's a good question though ben so yeah it is a mystery you could call it a prototype and unless he tells people what it is i won't ever say does he leave the prestige on all the time do you know this um in the he has on his normal last touring boards you see the kirkland signature dual boost that is not prestigious it has been wrongly reported that those are just prestiges but it is a type of similar preamp he leaves one of those on all the time with the prestige i don't think he leaves it on all the time with the dead i don't think so i think he uses it like he uses a katana oh nice okay cool enough chitter chatter uh les paul we're gonna we're gonna do some big muff jim we've done too much like blues lawyer stuff yeah we need to get away from that get back to our dark roots of sob tech yeah band name when we don't need reverb either let's see here here's the old mig 50. [Applause] [Music] yeah how do we feel about that original here's the new [Music] shockingly the same all right here we go [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] hmm [Applause] [Music] [Music] that was nice so this is the pedal board down we have the big muff was on the whole time kicked in the east river one of the big complaints pro tip big muff has no mids just admits it's not hard anything with mids just that's so i got to do just admits people that listen if you're out there whining about this not having mids stab some mids right yeah that's all i got to do [Applause] had this on then uh went into vibrato mode but you honestly i turned those knobs didn't i yeah i like that i actually do like that see what that's like clean with some verb so that's the eddy vibrato mode what is eddie a reference to i don't know isn't eddie like a type of water flow thing do you know what i'm talking about yeah eddie yeah i think that's probably what it's referencing here's what just happened we went from like a pearl jam thing immediately into incubus with the vibrato petal an eddie is a circular movement of water counter to a main current causing a small whirlpool ah can you play an incubus beat over this oh i don't know if i know and then keep it a speed i don't know if i know what that i'm familiar now [Music] [Music] that's that's so weird that you don't know an incubus feed i feel like i need to yell something about holes poked in a backlit canopy well today's episode has been really fun this is it right we can wrap up okay uh in the comments below let us know what you think about the amps honestly go buy a mc50 if you need a good clean amp i will do a soft tech episode eventually we'll play it out for a minute have a wonderful evening bye [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] i'm sorry i'm sorry i messed up it's a good incubus ending yeah all right have bye a wonderful day you

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Length: 74min 9sec (4449 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 25 2021