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[MUSIC PLAYING] SPEAKER 1: Thank you very much. And I'm actually going to introduce our next speaker, who is Sal Khan. We're so pleased to have him with us today. He's the founder and CEO of the Khan Academy, a nonprofit that provides free world-class education. You may have just heard of him a little bit, right? I should have told him that I actually was encouraging my daughter, who's getting ready to take the SAT, like, you need to go on and read the Khan stuff. And we'll talk later about some of the feedback she might have for you. He's the founder of the Khan Lab School, which some of you will get to visit on Friday. Khan Academy started as a passion project. In 2004, Sal began tutoring his cousin in math, communicating by phone and using an interactive notepad. Word got around. And soon, Sal was tutoring several cousins and family and friends as a hobby. To better scale, he began writing software to assign math practice, provide feedback, and track each student's progress. He also began posting videos of his hand-scribbled tutorials on YouTube, where he reached thousands of students. In 2009, he quit his day job and launched Khan Academy. Today, more than 62 million registered users access Khan Academy in dozens of languages across 190 countries. Today, we are honored to have Sal Khan join us to discuss his personal journey of how he founded the Khan Academy and turned it into the organization that it is today. We also look forward to his thoughts on how he has re-imagined education and what's next for the future of this field. Without further ado, please welcome Sal Khan. [APPLAUSE] SAL KHAN: Thank you. SPEAKER 1: Thank you. SAL KHAN: Wow, this is [INAUDIBLE] Wow, that's the most generous introduction I've ever gotten. Thank you. Well, I like to start these types of presentations-- and it's really going to be a conversation-- we're going to have time. But really, just to get to know you all, how many of you all are elementary school teachers? [CHEERING] Middle school? [CHEERING] Oh! High school? [CHEERING] And then how many of you all are humanities teachers? AUDIENCE: Yeah! SAL KHAN: I'm just trying to get a sense. Science? [CHEERING] Math? AUDIENCE: Yeah! SAL KHAN: OK, and did I miss anyone? AUDIENCE: Social studies. AUDIENCE: Yeah! SAL KHAN: OK, humanities-- OK, social studies-- very good-- very good. All right-- and it sounds like most of you all have some familiarity with Khan Academy. How many of you all use Khan Academy? [CHEERING] OK. And how many of you don't? Good, good, good, good. And how many of you hadn't heard of it before today, really, or are not too familiar with it? Oh, OK, good. I'm just doing market research. Well, it sounds like most of you all are somewhat familiar with it. We're often associated with this collection of videos. And as was introduced-- I started making for family members. But as we'll see, it's a lot more than just videos. But just to get everyone on the same page, I will start with a montage of what some of these videos look like. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - All these interactions are just due to the gravity. - This is age right after Isaac Newton. - I'm told the humidity makes it feel hotter. Why is this? - Excellent question, LeBron. - And you can just see the pleasure he had. - The right to privacy, as such, is not spelled out in the Constitution. Of course, the word "liberty" is. - Two things actually can interbreed. Although, for these two in particular, it seems like the mechanics would get kind of difficult. - And I can keep playing with these numbers and see what kind of colors I can come up with. - If this does not blow your mind, then you have no emotion. [END PLAYBACK] I thought you all would appreciate Euler's identity. But as I mentioned, it's much more than just videos. And some of you all might already be using it in your classrooms, where students can do exercises. It's not just math anymore. It's across subjects and grades. They get feedback. There's teacher dashboards. And I'll talk more about how we envision-- and actually, we would love to learn from you all on how you all envision tools like this could help empower-- supercharge-- a classroom. As was introduced, we're reaching a lot of folks these days. But before talking more about this and where we're going, I'll tell you how all of this started. And even just listening to the introduction, I have a feeling that the journey that you all are about to go in parallels the one that I've been going through for the last seven or eight years. In 2004, as was introduced, I was a year out of business school. My original background was in tech. But I'd gone to business school. Year out-- I was working as an analyst at an investment fund. And I had just gotten married. My family was visiting me in Boston right after my wedding. They were visiting from Louisiana. Where's Louisiana? AUDIENCE: Whoo! SAL KHAN: Oh, very good. Oh-- we have two teachers of the year at Louisi-- oh, kind of-- oh, one. And it just came out of conversation that one of my family members, my 12-year-old cousin Nadia, was having trouble in math. Her mom told me about it. When Nadia came into the room, I asked her about it. She said, well, there was this placement exam. It had a lot of unit conversion on it. I just don't understand the unit conversion. And I immediately told Nadia, I'm 100% sure you're capable of understanding unit conversion. How about, when you go back to New Orleans, we'll get on the phone and we'll work with each other? And Nadia agreed. And so over the next few weeks, every day after work, I would get on the phone with Nadia. At first, she just was completely convinced that her brain wasn't capable of it-- she wasn't even able to engage in the material. But after about two weeks, she started to engage. She learned unit conversion. She got caught up with her class. Then she, frankly, got a little ahead of her class. At that point, I became what I call a Tiger Cousin. I called up her school. I'm sure you all appreciate calls like this. And I said, I really think Nadia [INAUDIBLE] should retake that placement exam from last year. And they said, who are you? And I said, I'm her cousin. And somewhat surprisingly, they let her retake the placement exam. And that same Nadia, who was being placed into a remedial math class, was then put into the advanced math class. And so that was pretty incredible for me on a whole bunch of levels. One, it was a way for me to connect with my young cousin who was 1,500 miles away. This was a subject matter that, frankly, I always loved to engage in, even when I was a student. And I was able to share that with a family member. And it was a relatively small intervention on my part. And it might help change her future. And so I immediately started working with her younger brothers, Ali and Arman. And a few things happened. The firm I was working for was quite small. It was just me and my boss, Will Capital. His wife becomes a professor at Stanford Law School. So we move out, right down the street here. But more importantly, word gets around the family that free tutoring is going on. And so I find myself, every day after work, with about 10, 15 cousins, family friends, all over the country, on conference lines-- whatever-- trying to help them with their math or their science or whatever they needed. And with a background in software, I said, oh. Well, you know, I see some patterns here. A lot of my cousins, even the ones that are A or B students-- and they might be in middle school-- they're a little bit foggy on their dividing decimals or negative numbers. Or if they're in algebra, they're still a little bit foggy on exponents or whatever else. So I started writing this exercise platform. That was the first Khan Academy. It had nothing to do with videos. And I was showing this off at a dinner party not too far from here. All my friends knew that I had this kind of crazy side project. And the host of the dinner party said, well, this is all cool, Sal. But how are you scaling your lessons? And his name's Zuli. I said, hey, Zuli, you're right. It's hard to do, with 15 cousins, what I was originally just doing with one or two. And he said, well, I have an idea. Why don't you record your lessons as videos and upload them onto YouTube for your family? And I immediately said, no. That's a horrible idea. YouTube is for cats playing piano. It is not for serious mathematics. But I went home that weekend. I got over the idea that it wasn't my idea. And I decided to give it a shot. And those first lessons-- and they're still up there. If you do a search on our YouTube channel, at least, by date upload, it's November 2006. These were the things that I just thought my cousins were asking a lot about. It was very simple things-- adding fractions with unlike denominators, negative numbers, dividing decimals-- just very, very basic things. And I started telling my family, hey, why don't you watch this ahead of time. Email me any requests you have. And that way, when we get on the phone, we can dig a little bit deeper into things. And after about a month, I asked them for feedback. And they somewhat backhandedly-- and famously-- told me they like me better on YouTube than in person. And it's worth introspecting on that, because I think there are some things that they were saying and there's some things that they weren't saying. So what they were saying-- and when you really put yourself in the shoes of a learner-- and we've all been there-- it makes sense. The first time that you're trying to get your head around something-- we've all been there, where you ask a friend or a family member, hey, how does this work? And they say, oh, it's really easy. A leads to B, leads to C and because of blah-blah blah-blah-blah. It makes a lot of sense, right? And you feel pressure. You're like, oh, yeah-- yeah, it makes sense. You don't want to waste their time. Even if they're not judgmental, you're afraid they might judge you. Then an hour goes by or later that night, when you're actually trying to do it again, you're like, oh, what did they say? I don't quite remember it. But now, my family was able to get it at their own time, their own pace. If they were an algebra student or a calculus student but they were foggy on dividing decimals, they didn't have to be embarrassed. They could just access it at their own time and pace. But what they weren't saying is that they didn't appreciate me in their life. If anything, this liberated for more human interactions when we got on the phone. We could focus more on either higher-level problems or deeper engagement. Or really, frankly, the math or the science was just an excuse to get on the phone and talk about what was going on in their lives. And so I took that as positive feedback. And I kept going, kept uploading to YouTube. And it just happened to be public. And it soon became clear that there were people who were not my cousins who were watching. And at first, I'd just see the view count grow. And it was growing quite fast. And then the comments start to come in. A lot of those early comments were just simple-- thank you. Even that I thought was a pretty big deal. I don't know how much time you spend on YouTube. AUDIENCE: Yes. SAL KHAN: Most of the comments are not thank you. They're-- [LAUGHTER] --a little edgier. But then they got intense. Started getting comments like, I thought I hated math. But now, I was able to fill in this gap. Or this is the reason I was able to get an A on my physics exam. Or I never thought I was a science person. But now, I want to go become an engineer. And so in those early days-- this was probably spring of 2007-- this really incredible letter from a mother came through the YouTube messaging thing. And I brought my wife over. I was like, this is incredible! She wrote that both of her sons had a learning disability. And these videos were the only way that they were able to keep up with their class. And because of that, her and her entire family were praying for me and my entire family every night. AUDIENCE: Ah. SAL KHAN: And you can imagine how powerful and strange that was for me on some level. You have to remember, I was an analyst at a hedge fund. I was not used to people praying for me-- at least in that way. And so I kept going. You fast forward to fall of 2009. There was about 100,000 people who were using the software and the videos every month. Frankly, I wasn't even focusing on my day job. Every day, I was focused more on requests I was getting from all over the world-- what's the next piece of content or exercise I was going to write on the software platform? And it felt like there was something real here. Hey, if it's reaching 100,000, maybe it could reach, one day, 1 million. Maybe one day, it could reach 10 million. I wouldn't have even imagined numbers like this. And so my wife and I sat down. Our first child had just been born. But we had some savings, essentially, for a down-payment on a house. But we said, hey, it looks like there's something real here. Why don't I give it a shot? And so I quit my day job and set up Khan Academy as a nonprofit. And anytime you do anything entrepreneurial, whether it's for profit or nonprofit, you almost have to have a delusional optimism when you start. It's like, surely-- in this case-- the social return on investment is just off the charts. You could reach so many people around the planet. And I started talking to some philanthropists of some foundations. But very quickly you come to terms with reality. You get a lot of, oh, this is really interesting. But it's not quite what we fund. Or we've already allocated our budget for this year. Talk to us next year. And so, you can imagine, about seven months into that-- I had a pretty good job before. We were now digging $5,000 a month into our savings with a young child in the house. Our expenses had gone up. It was stressful. It was probably the most stressful time of my life. I'd wake up in the middle of the night-- what have I done to my family? What have I done to my career? And I was getting donations off of PayPal. It was amounting to a few hundred dollars a month. If it was any of you, thank you. But you can imagine, it was tough. But then, all of a sudden-- May of 2010-- I get a $10,000 donation. So I see who it is. Her name is Ann Doerr. She was local. I was in Mountain View. She's in Palo Alto, right down the street. And so I immediately email her. And I say, thank you so much for this incredibly generous donation. This is the largest donation that Khan Academy has ever received. If we were a physical school, you would now have a building named after you. And Ann immediately replied back and said, well, I use it myself. I use it with my daughters. I see that you're nearby. I would love to meet with you and learn more about what you're up to. And so about three or four days later, we're at an Indian buffet restaurant in Palo Alto. And Ann asks, so what's your goal here? And I told her, when you fill out the paperwork with the IRS to be a nonprofit, there's a part of the form that says, mission colon. And they give you about a line and a half. And I filled out-- a free world-class education for anyone, anywhere. And Ann said, well, that's ambitious. How do you see yourself doing that? And I said, just to be very clear. This is a mission. I don't plan on being able to just check it off this weekend and then move on to health care or something. [LAUGHTER] I've got some ideas. But I used to walk around with a big stack of these testimonials that I was getting. I showed her the chart of how people were using it. I showed her the software that I had written originally for my cousins. And I said, this is just the beginning. What I imagine doing is translating this into the languages of the world. I had some very basic teacher tools that, frankly, I was using. And there's actually a few teachers that I knew that were starting to use it, where I said, hey, look. In this world, a teacher could know where every student in the classroom is at. It could happen anywhere in the planet. It should be free, accessible, et cetera, et cetera. And Ann said, well, you're surprisingly making a lot of progress. I only have one question. How are you supporting yourself? And in as proud of a way as possible, I said, I'm not. And so she processes that. We pay the bill. We part ways. 10 minutes later, I'm driving into my driveway in Mountain View. And I get a text message from Ann. And it says, you really need to be supporting yourself. I've just wired you $100,000. So that was a good day. It was a little bit-- a little bit. And then, frankly, that was the beginning of a whole series-- a whole cascade of events. At that early stage, some folks from Google started to reach out and say, hey, we're curious about what you're doing. It turns out, a lot of our executives have been using Khan Academy with their children. It seems like there might be something interesting here. I remember Alfred Spector, who was the head of research. He also was able to donate at a reasonable scale too. So I was like, wow, at least I could do this-- at least for, maybe, another year, a year and a half. And then-- this is now June of 2010, about six weeks after Ann's donation-- I was running a summer camp not too far from here. And the reason I was running a summer camp is I never imagined that the virtual stuff is somehow in competition with the physical. It's not like amazon.com versus Barnes and Nobles. I always viewed this as, this could liberate the physical. If you can get explanations at your own time and pace, if you can get as much practice as you need, feedback, tools for teachers, then when people get in the room, they can interact. They can have dialogue. They can do simulations, games-- whatever it might be. And so that's why I was running this summer camp, to experiment with that. And so I was in the middle of one of these simulations. I had six 7th graders playing a game of Risk, while the other 20 traded securities based on the outcome of the game of Risk. It's a good game. And while that was happening, I start getting text messages from Ann, which you can imagine, I now take very seriously. And there were five or six of them. It wasn't clear what order they came in. But they read along the lines of-- and this is Ann writing. I'm at the Aspen Ideas Festival. I'm in the main pavilion. And Walter Isaacson interviewing Bill Gates-- Bill Gates, last five minutes, talking about Khan Academy. So I didn't know what to make of this. So I immediately boot the nearest 7th grader off of a computer. And I'm looking for some evidence of this thing that Ann seems to be writing about. And about 10 minutes later, I actually was able to find the live stream. And this is what I saw. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - There's a website that I've just been using with my kids recently called Khan Academy-- K-H-A-N-- just one guy doing some unbelievable 15-minute tutorials. My favorite vignette is that guy Salman Khan-- he was a hedge fund guy, making lots of money. And he quit to do these little web videos. And so we have moved, I'd say, about 160 IQ points, from the hedge fund category into the teaching many, many people in a leveraged way category. So that was a good day, the day that his wife let him quit his job. [END PLAYBACK] [APPLAUSE] You can imagine what was going on in my head. I was literally shaking. I was like, is this really happening? And I was nervous. I was like, those videos were for Nadia, not Bill Gates. And he clearly knew about it. He's talking about my wife. And I remember dinner that night with my wife. And I showed her this video. And I was just like, what do I do now? Do I call him? I'm assuming he's not listed. And they left me in that limbo state for about two weeks. Two weeks later, I'm in my walk-in closet, about to record a video. And I see my cell phone rings. It's a Seattle number. I answer it. Hello? Hi, this is Larry Cohen. I'm Bill Gates' chief of staff. You might have heard that Bill's a fan. Yeah, I heard that. And if you're free in the next few weeks, we'd love to fly you up to Seattle and learn more about what you're doing-- and maybe ways to work together. And I was looking at my calendar for the month-- completely blank. I says, yeah, maybe next Wednesday. I got to cut my nails, do some laundry. But I think I meet Bill Gates. So we had that meeting. And it was eerily similar to the meeting with Ann. What would you do with more resources? I would build out the software platform so students can learn at their own time and pace-- the dream of differentiated instruction. I had these nascent tools for teachers. I wanted to make them way better, so that it's accessible to every teacher on the planet, internationalize the content-- et cetera, et cetera-- cover well beyond math. And they seemed to be sympathetic to the cause. At the exact same time, those early conversations with Google-- they brought me in. And they said, hey, there's this 10 to the 100th project, where we're going to give $10 million to projects that could change the world. And we're interested in Khan Academy potentially being one of those projects. And what would you do more resources. I told him the same thing-- I would internationalize it. We could reach millions one day. And so all of a sudden, October of 2010, the Gates Foundation and Google each gave $2 million to, essentially, allow Khan Academy to become a real organization, get office space, start hiring up a team, et cetera, et cetera. And ever since then, we've been able to grow as an organization. And what we immediately started working on with those resources was the software platform. And what you see here-- and it sounds like some of you all use it in their classroom. These are just examples of what, at least, some of the math exercises look like on Khan Academy. But I use this as a framework to just think about this idea of mastery learning, which people talk about in ed schools. But it's really hard to implement. In a traditional academic structure, the one most of us grew up in and maybe still operate in, is you group students together by age. And then you move them all together at a set pace. And what will typically happen-- this is a unit. I guess this is on equation of a line. So let's say we're in a Algebra 1 class. And the first lesson is, this is how you calculate the slope. The teacher will give a few lectures on it. There'll be homework every night-- lecture, homework, lecture, homework. Then we get a test after about two or three weeks. And then, on that test, let's say I get a 70%. You get an 80%. You get a 95%. Even though we identified gaps on that test-- I didn't know 30% of the material that happened to be on that test. Even the A student-- it could have been a careless mistake. Or maybe it was something really important. You know, what's the slope of a vertical line? Or a horizontal line? Even though there was that gap, the whole class then needs to move on to the next concept. It's not the fault of the teacher. Every teacher I talk to recognizes that. And they're like, I wish I could sit with those students and fill in those gaps. But I've got to cover these 60 standards in these 180 days, so I have to move on. But then, when you move on, it'll be on the next concept. How do you graph a line, where you're assuming that the students know what a slope is? And how am I going to learn that, if I didn't know 30% of the prerequisite material? And to understand or appreciate how absurd that world that we're kind of forced to be into is, imagine if we did other things in our life that way-- say home building. So we bring the contractor in. We say, we've been told that we have two weeks to build the foundation. Do what you can. So the contractor does what they can. Maybe it rains. Maybe some of the supplies don't show up. Two weeks later, you bring in the inspector. The inspector looks around and says, OK. Maybe the concrete's wet over there. That part's not quite up to code. I'll give it an 80%. You say, great. That's a C. Let's build the first floor. Same thing-- we have three weeks. We've been told by the state, you have three weeks. Do what you can. So do what you can-- it's an 80%-- 20% gap. Fine. Let's build the second floor. And then, all of a sudden, while you're doing that, the whole structure collapses. And if the reaction to that is what we typically have in the public discourse in education, they're like, oh, well, maybe you needed a better contractor. Or maybe you needed more inspection. But that wasn't the problem at all. You could have had the best contractor on the planet. And you could have had the best inspection on the planet. But it was the process that was flawed. You're artificially constraining the amount of time this incredible contractor had to work on something. You took the trouble of measuring it. But then, when you identified gaps, you did nothing about them. And you forced the contractor to build on top of it. And if I was giving this talk 30 or 40 years ago, it would have been like, yeah, but there's no other practical way or economical way to have 30 students being taught. But what's exciting now is the dream of personalized learning and mastery learning-- it's like, hey, we can start to have tools that can empower teachers so they don't have to make that trade-off, so that they can actually address students' gaps as they emerge and allow students-- some students are ready to move on. Let them move on. If some students need more preparation, let them work on that preparation. To get a sense of how it can affect a classroom, this is one of our teacher partners at Phillips Andover Academy who teaches calculus. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - We have this big moment. And the moment is that, for 35 years of my teaching career, I walked into the classroom having no idea if the kids had done the homework or what their commitment was to the subject. And then suddenly, there's this coaching platform on Khan Academy that was a total game-changer for me. I wasn't imagining that the Khan Academy calculus content would become a big part of our curriculum. I imagined, frankly and wrongly, that we'd use these exercises-- suggest kids use it for review. And when we discovered the coaching platform and how powerful that was, a group of us said, let's give it a go. Let's try using Khan Academy as a major part of our curriculum. And my goodness-- it changed the way I teach. For instance, five minutes before I walk into class, I can go to the platform. And I can look through my list of students to discover that all but two of them had done the homework, had watched the videos, had cleared the hurdle, if you will, of the exercises that I had given them. So when I walked in the room, I didn't have to go over homework anymore. And that was liberating. And so, if there were two students who didn't do the homework, it gave me the opportunity to pull them aside and say, hey, I see you didn't get to it. Or I see you struggled with it. Is there a way that you and I can meet later today? It's because I don't want you to get behind in this. And the first 15 minutes of class now, all of a sudden, we're breaking new ground. We're doing harder problems. And the kids responded so well to it because, I think, they had years and years and years of math teachers going over the homework for the first 15 minutes of class. And the poor kids must have been bored to death. Or why bother doing the homework? Because he'll do it on the board anyway. So that was just totally liberating. And it gave me an opportunity to really think hard about teaching. Since we started using Khan Academy, the one thing that we can't help but notice is that we're having more kids make it to the end of BC calculus. And it's clear to me that we're having more girls and more under-represented kids finish our BC calculus class than we ever did before. And I got to believe it's our new way about thinking about teaching and using Khan Academy in the classroom and for homework assignments. It has got to be a big part of that. [END PLAYBACK] And one-- [APPLAUSE] --and Bill actually, him and the team at Andover have been major inputs into the calculus work on Khan Academy. And one of the reasons I'm here is we're always looking for people to collaborate with, to help work and create content together. Another exciting thing that some of you all know about is the College Board-- the folks who do the AP and, also, they do the SAT. They reached out to us a couple of years ago and said, hey, look. We're revamping the SAT, so it's actually aligned with the Common Core and what students are actually going to be learning in school. But as part of that, we want to address decades' old perception-- at least-- around this inequity around test prep. And we want to work with you to make the world's best test prep that happens to be free. And so this is a little video that some of you all might have-- this was on the "Today Show" about Khan Academy working with the College Board around the SAT. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - Today is the last day students around the country will take the SAT in its current form. That's because, starting in March, a new test with lots of changes will be there for high schoolers. Here's NBC's Ann Thompson. - I wanted to start my own business, specializing in robotics. - And I think I'd like to be a chemist. - The first hurdle to achieving those dreams-- the SAT. Today is the last day students will be offered the test in its current form. The new SAT promises to be quite different. All high school students, like Amelia Taneo and Minchailou Kanoute, now also have access to free online tutoring from the Khan Academy. - The software itself acts like a tutor. It shows you, hey, you should probably work on this. - Complete with points and badges-- - And once you get to the more advanced stuff, you get really cool badges. - It sounds like a video game. - Yeah, exactly. - What is this question asking? - Students have been practicing for months with sample tests meant to mirror the new SAT exam beginning in March-- And how have you done on the mock SATs? - I have done well. By the time that I went to mock 2, I boosted my scores by 200 points. --building confidence along the way to achieve new possibilities in the future. -- - [INAUDIBLE] that you're dumb. - For "Today," Ann Thompson, "NBC News," the Bronx. - [INAUDIBLE]. - Yeah. [END PLAYBACK] So one of the things that's been really exciting about this is, when we started doing the partnership, the College Board said, there's this PSAT. And when all of us took the PSAT, it was kind of this random test that you'd take in 10th or 11th grade. And if you do well, you might get some letters from colleges and things. But they said, well, what if the PSAT could act as a diagnostic for the practice? And so now, when students get their score for the PSAT-- which 80% of American students take-- they can sync their accounts. And once again, this is all nonprofit. This is all free. None of this has even a hint of commerciality to it. The PSAT acts as the world's largest diagnostic for learning for your next few years to the SAT. And there was a efficacy study that was released last summer where students who work 20 hours-- they double their gains from the PSAT to SAT. They have at least a 100-point gains. And it actually keeps going. We know students that-- we didn't publish it-- but went 30, 40, 50 hours. And they're actually able to get more gains than people expect. So everything I've talked about so far-- oh, and this was the efficacy study there. Idaho-- and I see there's connections here. We did a big study in Idaho with the Albertson's Foundation, where we saw students who completed 60% of their coursework or the mastery on Khan Academy. They saw 1.8 times the growth that you would have otherwise expected. In Brazil, we saw a situation where, if the students did about 60 minutes of Khan Academy as part of their classroom, that they saw 30% more growth than expected. And on that last point, most of what I've talked about is the world we live in. But what about the rest of the planet? And all of these are pictures of Khan Academy being used throughout the planet. They're all really interesting stories. And credit really goes to the organizations that are taking it out to the villages. But probably the neatest story is the one in the top right. I used to give talks like this and say, who knows? Maybe one day, it will be used in Mongolia-- just imagining the furthest place on the planet. And then a few months later, I got a letter from Mongolia. And it's from that young girl in the top right. Her name is Zaya. And at first, she had, actually, a YouTube testimonial. So I look at her testimonial. She talks about using Khan Academy, how she enjoys math, et cetera, et cetera. And I immediately assume that she must be middle class or upper middle class. Her English was quite good. She clearly had access to the internet. But then I read the text of her email more closely. And it turns out that there was a group of engineers from Silicon Valley that were using their vacation time to go to Mongolia and set up computer labs with internet in orphanages. And what do you see-- [APPLAUSE] What you see in the top right there, those are the orphan girls using Khan Academy. And Zaya was one of those orphans. And what's especially incredible about that is-- and it just shows you how much potential there is on the planet if you let people tap into it-- Zaya has since become one of the biggest contributors to Khan Academy in the Mongolian language. So she's now helping to teach her people. And a similar story-- this was actually in the "New York Times" about a year ago. It turns out, a young girl-- 12-years-old, lives in Afghanistan. Taliban takes over her town-- forbids young girls from going to school-- horrible things-- threatens with acid attacks and things like this. So Sultana doesn't go to school anymore. But she is lucky enough to have a family that wanted to support her. She had a computer. I think one of her brothers got her a computer with an internet connection. And so she uses that, first, to self-teach herself English off the internet, which sounds a little scary. But it seemed to work for her. And she started telling any family members, hey, can you get me some reading material? And so one of her family members was going to Pakistan, brought back a Time magazine in English. It happened to have an article about Khan Academy. So she's like, oh, this is what I need. And so she started learning. And so for the next four, five, six years-- she goes from, like, a late elementary school level all the way to a high school level. She realizes that she wants to be a physicist and come to the US to study physics. So she smuggles herself into Pakistan-- because the SAT is not available in Afghanistan-- to take the SAT. She does shockingly well. And that's when we hear about her. Someone that she met through the internet contacts us, is like, there's this young girl. You could-- and so we get in touch. We're like, how do we get her into the country to come here? She's brilliant. Luckily, Nicholas Kristof from the "New York Times" hears about her as well, writes this op ed about her-- "The Taliban's Worst Fear"-- which allowed her to get political asylum. And right now, Sultana is in the United States doing research with one of the top physicists at MIT. [APPLAUSE] And so you can imagine, we collectively want to reach the entire planet. These are all screenshots of what Khan Academy looks like in various languages. To think about what the videos feel like in other languages, I'll show you this. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - [SPEAKING SPANISH] - [SPEAKING FRENCH] - [SPEAKING MANDARIN] - [SPEAKING HINDI-URDU] - [SPEAKING ARABIC] - [SPEAKING FARSI] - [SPEAKING HEBREW] - [SPEAKING SWAHILI] - [SPEAKING XHOSA] - [SPEAKING TURKISH] - [SPEAKING PORTUGUESE] - [END PLAYBACK] I-- AUDIENCE: Wow. [APPLAUSE] SAL KHAN: I watch that when I get lazy. Anyway, these are more pictures of Khan Academy being used all over the world. And whenever I see this and we get these letters, you know what? I tell everyone involved-- and to be clear, Khan Academy is much more than me now. We have 150 full-time employees. We have-- I think the number is something like 14,000 people who have helped translate, subtitle videos. Obviously, there's all of the people working at the NGOs and teachers actually working with the students. And what I tell all the stakeholders of Khan Academy-- and I hope that I'm not presumptuous. I view you all as part of this mission-- more so than, frankly, most of the audiences that I might ever speak to-- is that a free world-class education for anyone, anywhere-- it was never imagined that it would somehow be done by one person or even one organization. It's really going to be a collaborative effort. We're going to work on some content, some tools, hopefully, in collaboration with you all. But then it's, how do you work it in the classroom? How do you create access, so that students can have access to computers and the internet? There's a million questions that we have to address together. But I'll leave you with a little thought experiment, just so that we can appreciate what's possible as a group. If you were to go back in time 400 years to Western Europe-- which, even then, it was one of the more literate parts of the planet-- you would have seen about 15% of the population was literate-- about 20% of men and 10% of women. And I suspect that if you asked someone who was literate, say, a member of the clergy, what percentage of the population do you think is even capable of reading? They might have said, well, with a great education system, maybe 40%-- maybe 50%. Well, you fast-forward 400 years, we know that that would have been a wildly pessimistic prediction-- that pretty close to 100% of the population is capable of reading. But if I were to ask all of you all today, what percentage of the population is capable of writing the next great novel? Or starting the next Google? Or deeply understanding physics? Or contributing to cancer research? Or becoming Teacher-of-the-Year? You might say, oh, well, today, that's sub 1%. Maybe with a great education system-- maybe-- it could be 10%. Maybe it could be 20%. But what if we're making that same estimation with the same blinders on that that clergy member might have made 400 years ago? The blinders of just what we've observed-- a world where we were all pushed ahead, we're actuating a gap here, there, here, there. We saw a lot of our peers-- you all see students every day where, at some point, the gaps become so large that they hit a wall. And that wall is often in an algebra class or in a physics class. But it could be in any class. It could be in your English class, in your history class. And they hit that wall not because algebra is difficult or because they're not bright. It's because they didn't really master decimals and fractions and something that completely can be remediated. And so, if we had a world where they could fill in those gaps-- those Swiss cheese gaps-- maybe the actual number could be quite higher. Maybe it could be 30%, 40%, 50%. And every day that goes on, I'm becoming more and more convinced that that number actually could be a lot closer to the number for literacy. That could be 80%, 90%, even 100%. And if we pull that off-- free world-class education for anyone, anywhere-- that's what mass public education was all about. That's what has made-- if you look at the wealthiest countries in the world-- the United States, Western Europe, Japan-- these were the first countries that had public education. And so it's not a coincidence that these were the first to industrialize, these were the first to have a high standard of living. But I think the opportunity that we can do together is take everything to the next level. And if we can get that level of a free world-class education-- so it just becomes like clean drinking water or basic shelter and just a fundamental human right. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] SPEAKER 2: I will let you take a pause for a moment. We're going to do a little bit of Q&A now. So get your questions ready. We'll have some microphones moving around. But Sal, thank you so much for sharing that moving, fascinating, and hilarious talk with us. Yeah-- it was really inspiring. And thank you for everything that you are doing with Khan Academy. I want to address though-- first up I'm going ask the first question. And then I'm going to pass it over to the audience. The question that I'm sure you get asked a ton-- and I just want to deal with it head-on and get it out of the way. And you dealt with a lot of it in the presentation. But people who say, I don't just want my kid in front of a computer all day-- computers can't replace teachers. I don't want them to just be an automated robot that's just going through things online. How do you respond when people put that to you? SAL KHAN: Yeah, I remember in the early days when Khan Academy was first getting on people's radar. And I would look at some of the criticism, which would be exactly that-- like, hey, the important part of teaching happens when there's a human in the room and when you are interacting. And it's not just about a screen. And it was funny, because I couldn't have agreed more with some of our strongest critics. And I think, sometimes, what happens is the press or whatever-- they like to take a narrative. Like, hey, this could be like Amazon for education or something like that. But it is one of those things that we are constantly saying, no. This is not what we believe. And as I mentioned-- and I've been running summer camps forever. I've always dreamed of starting a school. And I'll talk about that a little bit. But I think-- what I write in my book is it's all about, what can technology do to allow humans to be human? And the first Ted talk I gave-- there's a lot of debate sometimes about student-to-teacher ratio-- and obviously, the lower the better. But what I think technology can, ironically, optimize is "student to valuable time with the teacher ratio" or "student to human time with the teacher ratio." And so if you're Sultana or you're Zaya or if you're in a really under-resourced school someplace-- yes, some of them might be heavily reliant on that. But that is not ideal. The ideal is you have a real classroom with real resources with an incredible teacher and that this-- education is a whole spectrum of things. At this end is just your basic, almost, recall of things. Then you can imagine Bloom's Taxonomy. Here, you have your understanding, your synthesis, your evalu-- and then, here, you have your creation. And because there's so much to cover in a traditional model, even though teachers want to focus here, they have to spend a lot of time here. And I think the opportunity is, if technology can do some of this and even help out with some of this stuff up here, it's not like there's an end to what's there. Then you can do a lot more of the interesting stuff when you're in a classroom. And the teachers I talk to-- that's why they became a teacher. They want those personal connections with the students. They want to be able to meet each of the students where they are. And one way to really show that this is what we believe is-- that's why we started the lab school. A lot of peoples say, wait! But you all are a virtual thing. Why would you start a physical school? This doesn't scale, et cetera. And it's like, no. We're doing this to show how important the physical experience and what could the physical experience look like in a world where some of these types of tools exist. And I think-- and I was happy to hear that you all are going to be able to tour. But I think we actually have done a little bit of auditing of the students of, how much time are you with another human being? How much time are you interacting? How much time are you outside? How much time are you creating versus passively-- and those are the benchmarks for where we say, these are success. And so everything that we look at-- we have several members of our Khan Academy team here. Those are all the people who work with teachers and try to understand what teachers need, how do we improve the tools, so that we can have more classrooms that are liberated in this way. SPEAKER 2: Yeah, I've been fortunate enough to visit the Khan Lab School, as some people here will tomorrow. And it's clear that the screen is not the primary element of those schools. OK, let's go to the audience. Who's got a question for Sal? Yes, ma'am? AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]. Thank you, first of all. That was unbelievable and inspiring. I really appreciate what you're doing. I am not a teacher-of-the-year. I'm a coordinator. My teacher is Cicely, right there. Cicely, raise your hand. She's awesome! Whoo-hoo, Tennessee! So what I'm wondering is, since your background is in business and software, how did you learn all of the things about what makes a great teacher? SAL KHAN: No-- and look. Talk about having an impostor complex, especially in this room right over here. I think the valuable thing for me was-- this is something that was always interesting to me. Even the story I just told and the press narrative-- sometimes it's like, yeah, this guy, he was working in finance. And he just, on a whim, decided to become-- that's not exactly-- and I think it started in high school, where it might not surprise people that I was the president of the Math Club. But a big part of that, actually, was we used to run these tutoring programs with our peers and volunteer. And I remember thinking this in high school. Because I was on the wrestling team. And I was not a strong member of that team. But I was on the wrestling team. And I was always intrigued by the difference that I sometimes saw with what happened in wrestling practice and what sometimes happened in the classroom. Where, in wrestling practice, the coach would be like, hey, I want you to go run 10 miles. It was like, yes, sir! I want you to do 50 pu-- I'm going to do it! These painful things-- but most of practice was also interacting. We had a kid on our team who was the state champion. And then he was our captain. And he would go around and do tutor-- and then I would think about the difference. And if I had a gap in my wrestling skills, there was always someone there who could help me fill in that gap. And I had an incredible math teacher, Mr. Hernandez, who I'm still very close to. And I credit him for a lot of my success. I used to talk to-- because he was the advisor for the Math Club. And he used to say, yeah, it's so frustr-- he wished he could run his class like that, the way that the wrestling team runs-- where most of the class time were students working on what they need to work. But he had to show me what he had to cover in a year. And he used to show me this. I was like, oh, man! And then I used to see in the tutoring that, when we did have an opportunity to address some of these gaps, some of these kids that were failing classes could actually race ahead. So that was the first time I started thinking about it. I think we've all had the experience of a lot of friends, and even ourselves, where they can beat you at chess. But all of a sudden, they failed algebra class. And you're like, why did that happen? Or all of a sudden, you get to some point where you're like, I don't understand this class anymore. But it's probably because I didn't pay attention to the one before it, or whatever it is. So there was all these things. And even in college, I had a fellowship to try to work on software for education. I got rejected for the Rhodes Scholarship twice. Because I wanted to study to get a PhD in education. So I kept getting thrown away from that. But yeah, it ended up, at the end of the day, falling into it. I will say that, even the hedge fund, it definitely helped that it was a renumerative career and things like-- but the reason I was really intrigued by it is it was an opportunity to kind of learn about the world. That one moment you would have to think about how tanker prices are affecting the economy of Japan. And the next thing, you're talking about a biotech. So I've always-- the biggest joy in life, the thing that makes us most human, is learning. And so I think it was always a high for me to be able to work with my cousins initially, to engage in some of this beautiful material. And I think now, one of my indulgences is I've gone beyond-- I've even done some stuff-- and I'm not the only person making content on Khan Academy. But I definitely have gone beyond my original expertise, where recently I've done videos on the Constitution. But what I view as-- what's so exciting is I get to dig into it in a way that you don't get to dig into it when you're in college. Because I'm like, I'm going to do it for the passion and for the interest of it. And all of this stuff is incredibly interesting. And I'm blessed now to have-- if I have a question, I can call up some people and say, hey, you're a famous judge. How does this work? But I think it's a learner's dream. And the least that I can do is help share some of that and help-- and you all are doing it every day. I still miss the time that I used to have with my cousins. And actually, that's another selfish reason why I personally run some of the seminars at the Lab School. Because I just need that energy with students to keep doing what we're trying to do. AUDIENCE: This is a question that doesn't necessarily have to deal with Khan Academy, but I'm interested in you, your thoughts, or-- through a lens that's remarkable. And you're very interesting person. Who's your favorite-- SAL KHAN: Thank you. AUDIENCE: --teacher of all time? If you look back on your life-- an influential teacher that had an impact on you-- would you describe that teacher to me? SAL KHAN: So I would say there's three that immediately come to mind-- although maybe four. If I dig deeper, there's probably 20. Mr. Hernandez was one of them. I think what really stood out, why he was so important to me, was he was my Algebra 2 teacher. And he was the advisor for the Math Club and the Math team. But he kind of treated me like an equal in a lot of ways. He was my mentor in a lot of ways. But he was the first teacher that I didn't view as, like, a teacher. He would show-- he was kind of vulnerable. He was like, hey, this is what I got to do, and this and that. And it was the first time that I had this deep empathy. And also, he believed in me. He wrote my recommendations for MIT. There aren't a lot of kids that go from Metairie, Louisiana to-- and he is a guy that told me, I think you should apply. I think you should-- and I was like, no one from our school has ever gone. Like, what is-- and so, I think, him for sure. Miss Kennedy, who was actually our journalism teacher-- I was on the school newspaper. And it was a class at the high school that I went to-- Grace King High School. And she ran that class like a newspaper-- like a real newspaper. And so I think it was really powerful. Because once again, she treated me like a member of the team. There wasn't the separation between teacher-student. If you go earlier, I remember in second grade. And this is one of my earliest formative experiences. It's funny. My sister was always the high achiever. And she was in all the gifted classes and all that. I thought I was in gifted, until I realized it was speech therapy. And-- [LAUGHTER] But because of my sister-- because of my sister, they kept testing me. They're like, oh, surely, that last test-- because Farrah is so strong, surely her brother-- they kept-- I'm serious. And I don't think most kids get this opportunity to keep getting tested. But I eventually did end up in the program. And the first day I showed up-- and I remember, it was in second grade. And it was this weird thing where, every day, they would take you out of a different class period to go to this program. I walked to this room. And it was Miss Krauss and Miss Ruselle. And I was 7-years-old. But the memory is seared in my head. And it was a classroom like I had never seen before. It wasn't all the tables in one direction. There was a bunch of kids-- mixed ages-- all doing different things. Some were playing chess. Some kids were drawing. And I was like, what is this secret world that I've fallen in myself. And they said, oh, you're new. Come here. And there's two teachers. And they said, so what are you interested in? And I was like, are you asking me? I was-- and I was like, I like to draw. What they went, well, then we'll draw. I like puzzles. I said we'll do puzzles. And I thought I was getting away. I was like, I can't tell anyone about this. This is some type of scam that's being run within the school. But when I really think about some of my id-- I don't remember a lot more of second grade. But I remember those moments. So I think that the theme is that, when I was able to have human interactions and get that one-on-one time-- even, one thing we try to do at the Lab School is every student gets at least 15 minutes, one-on-one, with the teacher every week. And it might not sound like a lot. But if we all introspect on how much-- those one-on-one moments with caring adults are the stuff that's seared into your head. And so I think, those are the teachers that have had a really big-- there was also a teacher at the University of New Orleans, Dr. Hiro Santania, that took me under his wing when I was in high school, because I was taking a few courses there. And he's also the one who's like, you should do this. You should think about this. I didn't have access to a computer at my house. So he lent a computer to me so I could learn to program. So there's some incredible teachers. I could keep going-- yeah. AUDIENCE: When I came back into teaching three years ago, I was asked to be a long-term sub as a advanced algebra teacher. I am not a mathematician. I'm a social studies teacher. And I survived three weeks of teaching advanced algebra and moving the kids forward, because I could go home at night and I could work Khan Academy-- [APPLAUSE] --problems. SAL KHAN: I want to-- if you're willing, that could be a great testimonial. We have someone-- AUDIENCE: I'm happy to do that. I'm free. It's easy. SAL KHAN: OK. AUDIENCE: So when you deal with math and science, you're in sort of a black and white world. SAL KHAN: Mm-hm. AUDIENCE: As you move into the humanities, though, and as you move into social studies, now you get into more partisan subjects. So how are you dealing with that in your content? SAL KHAN: Yeah, it's fascinating. And I'm learning all sorts-- I remember-- I did this on a whim. It was about six, seven years ago. I read, like, a news report that's like, the CIA had declassified some of their interventions that they had done in other countries during the Cold War. And there was this thing about Allende, how they overthrew him. And I thought, well, this is incredible. I'm going to make a video on this. And so, actually, I went to the CIA.gov. I took the primary documents of-- this isn't like Sal's made up conspiracy theory type-- this is like, the CIA has released these documents. But this is a really valuable part of history. And so I said, this happened. And it was fascinating. As soon as I uploaded it, the comments just started to come in. A lot of American kids were like, well, no. I appreciate you did this. But I don't think you are fair to the CIA. Because you have to understand, at that time, we were afraid of communism taking over-- [MURMURING] Oh, it's a good point. But then I start getting, like, you are an imperialist pig. You have whitewashed the history of my country. My uncle died in that intervention, killed by your CIA. And I was like, this didn't happen in-- well, first of all, this doesn't happen in algebra videos. And second of all, this didn't happen in the world history or the current events classes that I remember. And then I said, well, why didn't it happen? Why didn't a Chilean kid walk into the room-- you imperialist pig! This is our view of history. And so I think there's two takeaways here. Obviously, at Khan Academy, we want to be-- it's impossible to be bias-less. We all grew up in a certain context, in a certain-- but as much as possible, I think, when people watch anything from Khan Academy, they feel like, wow, they're-- it's hard to tell whether Sal's a Democrat or a Republican. It's hard to tell what their political leanings are. It's hard to say if he's religious or if he's not religious. It's hard to-- and I think everything about Khan Academy has to be like that. But at the same time, because it's out there, because it's out in the open, it's transparent. It's there for the world to say, no-- one, as long as people are respectful on the comments, we leave them out there. People can say, I disagree. This is wrong. This is-- and I think that's the way these things should work. It actually is already starting to be a little bit more challenging in other countries that are a little bit more sensitive about some of these things. So it is still an open question about-- in Iran-- and I don't know if this is made public. But edit this part out. But should we just go with the math and science first? Because some of the other stuff might be so controversial in China or whatever. So that is a question that we're trying to think about right now. AUDIENCE: So I teach immigrant and refugee students in Spokane. And my question is always about access, because we take for granted that all of our students have access. Because most of them have smartphones. But they don't have data plans. They just use them for taking pictures or listening to music or playing games. And they have to have Wi-Fi access in order to be able to access this kind of content. And I think we, as educators, often do that as well. We assign-- go to Khan Academy. Do this. And then we don't realize that, in order to do that, they have to go to the library, sign up for 30 minutes. And then Wi-Fi-- you can get Wi-Fi for $5.99 a month. And then you find out that it's slow as molasses and you can't actually look at video. You can maybe read some text sometimes. SAL KHAN: Mm. AUDIENCE: So you mentioned that you're talking about access and you're trying to figure out how we do that. So how do we-- with things like net neutrality and things like that, how are you going about ensuring that, literally, it is a world-class education for anyone, anywhere? SAL KHAN: Yeah, that's another central question for us that we are-- we're not a big telecom company. And we're still relatively small in the whole scheme of things. So there's two ways we think about it. One is-- OK-- we look at the trends. And we wish we could reach every single student that-- so they have access today. But we know that's not the reality. But hey, in five years, in seven years, in 10 years, it's going to be much more of a reality. So let's build for that. It's not the best answer, but that's one of the things that we can only do. The other thing is, we can use-- even though we're small-- we have a voice now. We work very closely with Google. We worked very closely with Comcast and other countries-- Telcel and Telmex in Mexico. We're working with all of these people to, one, advocate, so that the $5.99 or the $10.99 is actually real internet. In Telcel in Mexico, they've actually 0 rated-- so in Mexico, most people are prepaid on their data plan. But if you access Khan Academy, it doesn't hit your data plan. And so, I think, things like that are solutions that we want to explore in other countries. And the argument I make there is, there's a reason why public education is free. And there's a reason why everyone clears off the road when an ambulance is going down the road. And I do argue that education-- not just Khan Academy, but anything that is going to be really useful for students-- should get that type of-- they shouldn't have to pay for that. And by the way, from the State's point-of-view, it is such a-- someone wants to learn and the only reason they're not is because of that? That seems really silly from, just even if you're thinking about the future of your nation or your state. So yeah, we advocate. Google does a ton. And they've helped us. Even in the Bay Area here, they've distributed Chromebooks for classrooms that have done some really incredible things. So yeah, we just try to use our voice to help influence bigger players-- simple answer. SPEAKER 2: Sal, thank you so much for coming and speaking with us this morning. Please, everyone, join me in-- [APPLAUSE] --thanking-- SAL KHAN: Thank you. SPEAKER 2: --Salman Khan. SAL KHAN: Thank you. [APPLAUSE]
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