This is RapidChange REVO - E3D’s new 3D
printing hotend! Even though it’s heatsink looks very similar to an old V6 everything
below is brand new, innovative and might make 3D printing easier, more convenient and save!
I had a great time testing it the last two and a half months, never changed so many nozzles
so conveniently but also had one fail on me and discovered some things during my tests
that you should know if you already use one or if you consider buying one. Let’s find
out more! Guten Tag everybody, I’m Stefan and welcome to CNC Kitchen!
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system. As the name RapidChange already suggests – one of the main advertised features of
Revo is the ease and convenience of nozzle changes because no tools are needed, and it
can and should be done, while the hotend is cold. But E3D did more than this because they
also integrated components to make the system more compact, capable, reliable and safe.
Their heater cores for example combine the heater block, a heating element, and the thermistor.
The new dual material nozzle breaks combine a brass nozzle with a thin, stainless steel
tube as heatbreak, eliminating the need for hot tightening and preventing material leaks.
I’ve been thoroughly testing Revo for several hundreds of hours with excellent prints, failed
hardware and very interesting discoveries during my performance and in-depth thermal
tests! Revo is its own ecosystem which means that
you need to replace the whole hotend if you want to use it on your printer. The Revo Six
is a drop-in replacement for the old V6 hotend. Its length, the heatsink, and the groove mount
have exactly the same dimensions. Then there is Revo Micro which is a smaller and lighter
version suitable for compact machines and fast printing where low weight is essential.
And since the new Revo nozzles have exactly the same interface that was introduced with
the Hemera extruder, there is also a Revo Hemera. You can install the Revo hot side
on an old Hemera without a problem, but the spring that usually connects the heatsink
and heater core doesn’t connect, so you lose this feature. E3D offers an upgrade kit
for Hemera if this is important for you. Then there is a Revo heatsink for Voron machines
with a 4-screw mount on the top. E3D also teased Revo CR, a drop-in replacement for
the typical Creality style hotends that should be released soon! Revo CR will use the same
thermistor as Creality machines, so there won’t be any firmware changes necessary.
At the time of releasing this video, there were only brass nozzles available from E3D.
They will be releasing their abrasion-resistant nozzle shortly, but if you install Revo right
now, you won’t be able to print any abrasive materials. E3D also recently talked about
a high flow variant of the Revo. I’m quite extited to find out if they use the simple
long meltzone approach from volcano or if they use some of the technology I found in
one of their patents in which they shape a tube that’s part of the flow path and embed
that in a heater! That’s also where another E3Ds patent on Revo comes in. On their website,
they link to a design patent in which they protect the appearance of the Revo nozzles,
which means that we won’t be finding either cheap replacement nozzle-breaks or abrasion-resistant
nozzles from 3rd party vendors soon if they don’t have a license agreement with E3D.
The cold side is still open source, so if you want to use a Revo nozzle and heater core
with your heatsink or extruder, you can! In a way, I do understand E3D because they poured
a ton of R&D money into Revo and don’t want others simply and often even in a worse way
– copying what they worked so hard for. Still it’s a bit against the spirit of RepRap,
but I think we have to deal with this if we want to get away from DIY solutions to reliably
working systems. Let’s also quickly talk about prices. I
used prices from the E3D shop, your local prices may slightly vary. Compared to an assembled
V6 a Revo Six is around 40% more expensive and sells for 70 British Pounds. A nozzle
or better nozzle break costs 19 Pounds or a bit less if you buy a set compared to around
4.20 for a V6 nozzle, but, well, it comes with an included heatbreak. A new heater core,
if you ever needed one is 23.50. It is more expensive than V6 but still, in my opinion,
reasonably priced and very much in the range of what other extrusion systems cost, and
it offers some very unique features others don’t have. Revo is currently sold out in
many places due to high demand but I tried to put link some shops below where you might
still be able to find one. Some of them are affiliate links but it’s a way to support
the channel. I used Revo Six for my tests and replaced
my regular V6 hotend in my Prusa MK3S. The procedure is well documented by E3D and fairly
easy to do. It does require routing new wires into the electronics box and takes maybe an
hour to finish. Revo uses these Molex connectors that I zip-tied to the wiring sleeve. It’s
not super pretty, but I can look over that. No firmware changes are required because Revo
uses the same Semitec 104GT thermistor as the older V6. Only a short PID tune and first
layer calibration are necessary to make it ready for printing.
To judge and compare print quality, I printed 3DBenchies with the old V6 hotend and then
the Revo hotend using PLA, PETG and ASA. The results looked basically identical, with a
tiny bit less stringing on the Revo. So I’m quite certain that we can expect the same
or even slightly better printing quality that we already know from E3D’s old V6 extrusion
system. I also printed a ton of ABS parts and even Prusament PCBlend and didn’t have
any problems with extrusions, clogs, or quality. But let’s talk about RapidChange Revo’s
eponymous feature – changing nozzles fast and conveniently. I think I know what I’m
talking about because I changed tons of nozzles and killed plenty of heater blocks over the
years. In the past, I rarely changed nozzles just to print with a different size nozzle,
but with Revo, I noticed it became so convenient that I way more often quickly changed to a
0.6mm nozzle if I had to print a bigger or sturdier part. What makes changing nozzles
on Revo fast and convenient is that nozzle and heatbreak are one piece, so it doesn’t
need to be hot-tightened. The nozzle breaks are made from three different parts with the
brass nozzle tip, a thin stainless-steel tube, and a brass upper section that screws into
the heatsink. These are press-fit together in factory and ensure that no material leaks
during printing, even at higher temperatures. The nozzles are equipped with colored silicone
socks to easily distinguish sizes, so no more counting holes buried under a layer of carbonized
plastics. And even if you lose a sock, the nozzles are now beautifully engraved with
the orifice size. You simply screw out the nozzle with your
fingers, which can be a bit tight depending on the fan shroud you use, and replace it
with another one. A spring holds the heater core in place so it doesn’t fall down and
when the nozzle gets installed, it makes sure that the core is firmly pressed onto the nozzle
for good thermal contact. No tools are required, and you only screw in the nozzle finger-tight.
Of course, you need to make sure that no filament is loaded. You either heat the hotend first,
remove the material and wait for it to cool down again or you add a line to your end g-code
to retract the filament after each print. If I would benchmark the time it takes me
to change a nozzle on a V6 in its hot state and compare it to the time it takes me to
first remove the filament on a Revo let it cool down again, and then change the nozzle,
the old system would probably even win. If no filament is loaded on Revo it’s seriously
fast, though! And the convenience of Revo is that I don’t need any tools for the process
and that it significantly reduces the risk of burning your fingers! And if you’re someone
who is regularly changing nozzles, you’ll also know how fragile aluminum heater blocks
are. I already stripped the threads out of several ones due to fretting and lower material
properties at these elevated temperatures. And if you’re not adequately holding the
heater block, you can even rip wires or bend the heatbreak. Revo eliminates all these risks
with its integral nozzle break and should ensure a long life of the nozzle and the heater
core! E3D also tried to make sure to have very tight
tolerances on the distance between the mating surface to the heater block and the nozzle
tip so that no first-layer calibration should be necessary. I’m sure that this is challenging
because the precision of the press-fitting process needs to be very high, and this seems
to have been a problem with some of the beta units. These deviated in length by some tenths
of an mm. This got fixed with the retail parts that are very similar in length.
Suppose you’ve watched my previous videos or maybe follow me on Instagram or Twitter.
In that case, you’ll know that I love cold-pulling during material changes simply to remove all
residues and reduce the necessity of purging. Revo makes this even simpler because not only
are the internal surfaces super smooth, but there is basically no undercut between nozzle
and heatbreak. Hence, filament slides out really easily! Don’t let my cut-ups fool
you because that was a beta nozzle with the length problem and a small centricity problem.
Let’s now talk about the heater cores, which integrate the heater block, heater cartridge,
and thermistor into one component. The heater cores have 40 W of nominal power, which is
sufficient for the flow rates you will be using Revo. I said 40 W nominal power because
REVO uses a PTC heating element. PTC means Positive Temperature Coefficient, which means
its resistance rises with higher temperatures giving it less power and therefore is an inherent
way of reducing the potential of melting down and catching on fire. Tom Sanladerer did an
excellent investigation on Revo’s electrical properties, and I highly recommend checking
out his video! The heating element wraps around the nickel-plated
copper core and has an integrated thermistor on the top. The thing I like most about the
new design is that the wires for the heater and thermistor are properly strain-relieved,
which almost completely eliminates the risk of ripping off the wires or shorting something
out. Great job! Heat up times are faster, and judging from
the numbers on the printer’s screen, Revo takes 60 s to get to 210°C, whereas the old
V6 takes 1.5 minutes at the same 40 W heating power. But now the really interesting part
of this video starts. Let’s look at the heater, nozzle, and thermistor setup. On a
classic V6 and many other hotends, you have the heater cartridge on one side of the heater
block, the thermistor on the other. The nozzle sits in the middle. There will always be a
temperature gradient between heater and thermistor, and since the nozzle sits in between, it should
be at right around the average temperature. On ring-heaters like Revo, the configuration
is different. The heating element wraps all around the heater, and the thermistor usually
sits between the start and the end. There will still be a temperature gradient because
the filament and convection around the nozzle suck heat away, but it will be circular instead
of linear. Since the thermistor sits on the outside, close to the heater, it will report
its temperature, but it doesn’t have any clue what the temperature within the nozzle
is. I tested that by simply sticking a thermocouple down the filament path.
On the old V6, the displayed temperature and real temperature are very close, and the final
temperature matches almost perfectly. On Revo it’s very different. We can see how fast
the reported temperature rises. On the other hand, the real temperature within the nozzle
drastically lags behind because it takes some time to get there. Also, the final temperature
is 3°C below the displayed one due to the temperature gradient. This means that Revo
actually cheats, and it only seems that it heats up way faster than a regular hotend.
In my opinion, it doesn’t have a huge impact in practical applications because heating
the bed is always taking longer than heating the nozzle. Still, I think Revo cannot react
as dynamically to temperature changes as one might think. The thermal mass, though, might
help a little. There is one case where this was really annoying for me. As said previously,
I really like to cold pull my filament, which I do during heat up and for PLA at around
65°C. On Revo, I have to wait until the printer displays a good 100°C because the temperature
is not reported correctly. And just to tease you a little, it will become even more interesting
in a bit! Since the filament path was clean and I had
my thermocouples out, I also did another test I haven’t seen anyone else do yet. My thermistor
wire is conveniently around 1.5 mm thick, engaging with the feeder gears. This way,
I was able to write a short g-code that retracts the thermocouple by a mm and then waits 30
s and does that over and over again until I mapped the whole filament path. This let
me check how well the heat break works, how long the meltzone is, and if there is any
heat creep. On a standard V6, the temperature stays pretty stable within the first 8 mm,
then slowly starts dropping when the stainless steel heatbreak starts, sharply drops within
the thin section, and then stabilizes at around 36 °C. Revo starts slightly lower but keeps
a very stable temperature profile up to around 12 mm due to the longer brass section of the
nozzle. Then it also sharply drops off and stabilizes at the same, maybe even slightly
lower temperature within the heatsink. This tells us a couple of things. The meltzone
is not only a bit longer, but the stainless steel tube used as a heatbreak does an excellent
job, and the heatsink that’s only cooled by a quiet Noctua fan prevents heat creep
efficiently. Just for completeness, I did the same test for an E3D Volcano as well,
where we can see the longer meltzone, the sharp drop-off, and a very similar final temperature.
Let’s now get to Revo’s dirty secret. I did all of the tests without a part cooling
fan, though I turned it on manually to cool the hot end down quicker after one of the
tests and forgot to turn it off before the next one. I wondered why the measured temperature
within the hot end suddenly was around 10 °C lower than before. I double and triple-checked
everything, but it turned out that due to the thermistor and heater configuration, Revo
doesn’t notice when the part cooling fan cools down the nozzle in a way as it is the
case with the old V6 setup. Part cooling increases the temperature gradient between the center
and the outside leading to 5% difference between the set and real temperature. V6 doesn’t
have that problem because the nozzle sits in between heater and thermistor and even
slightly raises the nozzle temperature. This is also confirmed by the measurements that
I did. Revo drops in temperature from 206°C to 197°C within the whole meltzone whereas
V6 increases its temperature from 208°C to 209°C. I made a custom, all-around heater
sock, which reduces the problem slightly, but in the end, it’s a problem of the ring
heater design and probably hard to mitigate. Is this a deal-breaker for Revo? I don’t
think so because, when cooling is constant, the temperature drop will also stay the same
and you usually tune extrusion temperatures in printing profiles. But if you’re using
existing profiles with part cooling, I’d recommend raising the temperature by 5-10°C
if you want to retain a similar part strength. Honestly, I’m sure that other hotends on
the market show a similar effect, but nobody measured and nobody noticed because they work
fine as well. Let’s finally also take a quick look at
the extrusion performance of Revo and compare it to V6. I first did a simple extrusion test
by feeding 200 mm of PLA at 210°C set nozzle temperature through the hotend, and measured
how much material was really extruded. Up to 15 mm³/s, both hotends performed very
similarly, and there was barely a visible difference. Only at even higher melting rates,
there seemed to be a noticeable yet slight difference. So even though the meltzone of
Revo seems to be slightly longer, the impact on the extrusion rate is minimal. As a more
realistic test, I also printed meandering test parts where I increased the print speed
every 5 mm, starting from an extrusion rate of 10 mm³/s to 20 mm³/s. Here Revo was a
bit better than the old V6 and managed to even finish 16 mm³/s, which didn’t work
with V6. In the end – both aren’t high flow hotends, but the flow rate they are able
to achieve should be sufficient for 90% of users printing with a 0.4 mm nozzle.
I have to mention here that I had one Revo print core fail on me during the 200h of printing
parts for the upcoming Voron 2.4 build. At some point, the temperatures reported back
to the printer were significantly too low and jumped around starting at 170 °C. E3D
replaced my heater core and told me this was a very rare event and probably caused by a
poorly assembled unit where the insulation of the thermistor slowly failed, changing
the measured resistance of the thermistor. This doesn’t seem to be a series problem,
but they are taking measures to prevent that from happening in the future. Still, if you
think you have a similar behavior on your heater core, contact E3D’s support for assistance!
So, in summary – do I think Revo is the long-awaited successor to V6, and should you
be buying one? It is a bit more expensive than their old hotend, and for the moment,
there aren’t any abrasion-resistant or high-flow nozzles available. The temperature drop problem
is not great, but in my opinion, no deal-breaker. Everything else is really nice. Nozzle-swapping
is way more convenient, and where in the past I changed nozzles maybe once every other month,
I find myself now selecting a suitable nozzle for every print that I do. The heater core
is excellent. It uses less space and will allow better cooling solutions, but the most
valuable thing is the properly strain relieved wires. Everyone who already had a big blob
of material around their hotend will know that damaging wires on other common solutions
is so easy. The Revo HeaterCore is so much more robust and should outlast your printer’s
life if E3D does proper QC in the future. Still, if you have a printer that works and
you always print with the same nozzle, Revo probably won’t tremendously improve your
machine’s performance. Though if you anyways wanted to replace your old hotend or you’d
like to change between nozzle sizes easier I’m very sure that you’ll love E3D’s
new hotend! And for around 100 bucks it’s probably the best value for money option that
you can find right now! Revo is the worthy successor to V6, and as soon as the ObXidian
nozzles and high flow variants drop will be the new go-to hotend for printers! Will I
be replacing all my hotends with Revo? Not right now, because I still need machines on
which I can test nozzles from 3rd parties but on my Prusa for example which I use a
ton to print unreinforced materials, Revo will be a game changer in convenience! But
what are your thoughts? Have you already ordered a Revo? Do you think about it, or is there
a reason that Revo isn’t for you? Leave a comment down below!
