Drywall Mud- Buckets VS Boxes, There is a difference

[Music] today i'm going to explain why a lot of you are using these wrong and i'm talking about box mud versus bucket mud and i'm going to explain that next [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hey welcome to my channel here at that kelty guy videos as always i appreciate you guys and i've seen uh some confusion i listened to a lot of your comments i watched a lot of the other videos out there and i've seen that a lot of you especially novices have some confusion over this hey helper my camera man you're supposed to be back there oh well so i'm gonna explain why i say that and i got some really good examples right here okay so first of all is there a difference i mean i'm talking here about regular all-purpose in a box regular all-purpose in a bucket and you can often get plus three in a bucket plus they're in a box and why would you want to buy one or either of these over the other now as a pro i can tell you we buy 99 box mud but as a novice you guys buy 99.99 bucket mud and you always buy the same one there's some disadvantages to that and some advantages okay the advantage for novices or any of you that just occasionally dabble in this is bucket mud is convenient but there's a big disadvantage to it too a couple of them so first of all the disadvantage between these two is this one cost usually about four dollars more because you're buying the bucket i think you actually get a little bit more mud because when we pour this in if it's empty it only fills it up about a little over three quarter whereas if you buy a bucket of it it's pretty full so you do get a little bit more mud but you're paying more in the long run plus this is a lot of disposal thrown away lots of buckets if you did nothing but bucket mud you would just be adding a lot to the landfill for no good reason cardboard takes up less room and you can't even recycle it once you pop that bag out of there now why do pros use mostly box mud well again it comes down to that exactly what i said throwing this away is a lot of waste and this is cheaper so what we do as a pro i've shown you this in other videos is we take the box mud and we pour it into an empty bucket so usually we got some old buckets like this around but you can just take a empty bucket of any kind and you just pour it in there mix it up if you're just going to dabble in it again you can use either of these both have a disadvantage so the disadvantage to opening this up stirring it and occasionally using it is it's going to go bad a lot faster once you stir it it seems to introduce organisms in there and it will go bad like what's in this bucket you don't want to smell this bucket trust me i found this one sitting over here it's some texture i mixed up it sat for about a week and a half that's about all it takes once you've mixed it up man it can go bad fast and i haven't found a solution to that hey if any of you know of a trick that might make the mud last longer comment down below now the only thing i've kind of known is pour water on it so what we normally do when we're done at the end of the day we don't usually just throw the lid on here because the sides will still dry out this bucket's been sitting around a while and i'm going to show you a picture of it but honestly the sides are just totally dry so that would make me have to scrape and chisel and get all that off there because you can't let that get into your mud then i would have to scrape the top layer off and just toss it to get rid of all those chunkies and klingons and these are the kind of klingons not on star trek these are more like the klingons that go out and circle the planet uranus not the good ones so you don't want these in your mud so that's one disadvantage to using this but what you do is you scrape all around the side get it good and clean take a semi-dry brush well in this case it could be a wet brush clean it up and then pour a little water on top and it'll keep it from drying out at least i didn't do that i don't even know where i got this i don't use regular all-purpose much i think a customer gave it to me but i can still salvage it so you do that it'll last a week or two the cooler it is the longer it lasts so in hot weather it might only last four or five days and then it will go rotten and turn black and nasty like this so you might ask well what about box mud and actually if you work out of a box you can make it last a lot longer but you're going to get attacked by klingons even more and i'm going to show you that and usually the best way is after you dip a little mud out you tuck all the plastic in just tight as you can get the air out of there and it it'll last a lot longer it usually will stay fresh for months this way before it goes bad so it has something to do with stirring it dipping our knife in introducing those organisms in there when we don't stir it and we dip a little out we're just putting a little bit in there so this has been sitting here for it's probably been open for two or three months and it's still not rotten so it lasts a lot longer but when you open it up let me get a camera over here and i'm going to show you what the problem with that is okay you see here when i open this bucket up see how there's all this stuff that dried on the side despite my best efforts you just see the little klingons flying around everywhere there and guess where they're landing they're landing down there in your mud so that's one big problem with trying to work out of the box is you're just going to end up with a lot of that which means you're going to end up trying to scrape off but you can't really scrape the plastic so it just keeps falling in there it can be a nightmare so i don't recommend it unless if you're really just needing to get a little bit of mud now and then you might want to buy one of them little tubs you can get a tub of drywall mud or just some of the lightweight sparkling or any of the various spackling they'll stay fresh a lot longer so if you're just going to do a little better work but if you're going to every now and then break out a half a pound of mud or so this will kind of work but just you're just going to have to throw a lot away so i don't have a great solution because i'm one of those that just occasionally goes out and does drywall repairs now and my mud keeps going bad like this i've thought about trying to add like a mineral stick down in here like we've got a hot tub we drop a mineral stick in there and it keeps it from going bad i'm wondering if that might help in the air but what's in the mud is probably the problem so if you know anything like i've thought about grapefruit seed extract which is a powerful antibacterial natural substance i've experimented with a little bit haven't had too much success don't think chlorine would be a good idea so if you have any ideas let me know so now let me show you this rotten batch here so you can see in this picture here that on top it looks okay i've had times where i've opened them up and thought oh okay i'll just get me some and get a scoop of it and then you see this underneath it's black it's rotten it basically smells like sewer it smells like crap so i don't know maybe the solution is take some of this if you're just going to use some now and then squeeze some of it out and maybe seal the rest up in that bag more like a zip tie tight again let me know i'm really curious if you guys have come up with a better solution now whether you use a bucket mud or a box mud you still should stir it now why well it's partly because you might want it thinner than it came it's also because it kind of settles and breaks up just traveling as a matter of fact if we mix it up and let it sit for four or five days it'll often still get this kind of uh it's kind of like it's separating in there and when we go to use it it just doesn't feel as smooth so if you mix it up it'll come out just nice and creamy you'll be amazed how much better it feels it spreads easier it'll actually go to the thinness that it's at if you take it straight out of the box or the bucket a lot of times it feels thicker until you start working it and then it goes to the thinness once you've kind of mixed it all together so you get that nice creamy feel now if you're just doing this part time and like i say you're just mixing up a little now and then and you don't want to invest in this big drill i'm going to show you here this is a cheap way this is the cheapest way you guys can mix up mud at home just chuck up a simple egg beater into your drill cost me 99 cents at the thrift store and put some in your pan mix it in there it'll be nice and creamy and you didn't have to stir up the whole bucket so that works good if you're just going to do it a little bit and you don't want to buy this because honestly this mixer back here there are a little bit cheaper versions but this one's like 40 or 50 dollars but i really like it because it doesn't shake the bucket like a two-bladed mixer does it mixes faster and just works really well it's got a nice design that blends things well but when you're going to mix with something that big you have to use a big drill if you try and mix with this sometimes it'll turn it i've tried but you'll burn this up all that mud you see on there that's from this egg beater not from the big drill you got to have a pretty good sized drill so it needs to turn around 600 rpms or so and have plenty of power i'll put the link to this one in the description and you can compare the specs on it now there are some cheaper versions that i think would work if you're just doing this now and then as pros you pretty much want to get something that you're just not going to have to replace and a drill like this this should last you 10 15 20 years depending on how much you're mixing up so hey you see these other videos popping up here these are some other popular videos i've got that you guys like and some that may just help you out there 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Channel: That Kilted Guy DIY Home Improvement

Views: 85,880

Keywords: joint compound, drywall mud, all purpose joint compound, drywall box mud vs bucket mud, drywall mud in, drywall mud in a box, all purpose drywall compound, all purpose mud, how to store drywall mud, how to store joint compound

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Length: 11min 26sec (686 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 17 2021